/lit/ - Literature

now that i made the thread for you lazy fucks please recommend me your favorite survival post apocalyptic novel, no zombies if possible

>>12284558
>survival post apocalyptic novel

It's not exactly what it seems at first glance. Give it a read.

>>12284558
The Postman or Earth Abides, depending on your style.
>>12284595
Yiff in hell furfag

>>12284558
Damnation Alley

The books are running out ;__;

>>12284734
Thank god, they look terrible

>>12284809
Could you imagine actually reading all these Garbo books lol

FUCK King Kragen, Barquan Blasdel BTFO, what a great book. They sure don't make em like this anymore.

>>12284864
I can't even imagine being such of a Debbie Downer as you.

>>12284558
>>12284677
This,Damnation Alley is based

DISCUSSION TIME!

I don't have the usual discussion image, so you'll have to do with the usual image.

>Did you like the book?
>What's your favourite story? (Why?)
>Do you like the dying earth setting or is it just a meme?
>How would you avoid my boy Chun the Unavoidable?
>Are you going to read the rest of the Dying Earth stories?

Also, reply to this post with nominations for our January reading!

>>12285113
>usual discussion image, so you'll have to do with the usual image
Fuck me, that didn't make any sense. Also, hope you all had a merry christmas and got some nice books as gifts.

>>12285113
I nominate Hawkwood's Voyage.

>>12284809
i wish I didn't hate sir terry's narrative voice. everything Ive read about his books sounds brilliant, but its not like I can read all of discworld second-hand

What does /sffg/ think of Sword of Shannara?
Just found a dusty old copy in my house

>>12285427
I think it would make good fuel for your fireplace if you don't mind the smell of burning shit.

Shitlord who has recently read and listened to (yes x2) The Dark tower and I guess Knight of the seven kingdoms as well as the ASOIAF books. Anything like it?
Also new here, what do you guys think about the series. Also as well as reading, any good books you guys recommend listening to? Just trying to up my taste and get to the really good stuff

>>12285546
ASOIAF start out okay but lose focus and also the fat fuck will never finish it. Read LotR if you have not.

>>12285546
The Worm Oroborous will put some hair on your smooth boyish chest.

Why does lit hate fiction so much? Is it really so inferior to nonfiction? :(

Is there any Urban Fantasy that doesn't fucking suck? The last two I tried (American Gods and Dresden Files) were incredibly bad.

Anyone have a shorter stand alone that's pretty easy reading? Can be brutal or comfy. Just want something good and easy reading. Haven't read for like a year and I started to read and realized Ive become retarded and can't read anymore. Thanks.

What do you guys think of The Quantum Thief?
Just finished it.

Some neat ideas, but I was annoyed about the number of tech and words that took me the whole book to understand.

>>12285807
Sorry,most urban fantasy is shit,your best bet is reading comics/manga or vidya
>>12285831
The Stars my Destination
Childhood's End

>>12285698
It's just shitposting,in a few months they will be talking about fiction like always,memes here last longer than on other boards

>>12285864
>Some neat ideas, but I was annoyed about the number of tech and words that took me the whole book to understand.
The quantum thief is 4chan in novel form. What did you expect? You can just go in and use it? You have to lurk.
>battle autism
>weaponized memes

>>12285113
>>Did you like the book?
Yes. I read it ages ago for the first time, though.

>>What's your favourite story? (Why?)
Turjan of Miir. Not because it's the best story, but because it's where the D&D wizard fuckery comes from. Also, crazy women.

>>Do you like the dying earth setting or is it just a meme?
It's great and makes me long for that period when SF and fantasy weren't so distinctly apart. Kinda like early space opera days.

>>How would you avoid my boy Chun the Unavoidable?
Considering he reality warps to get to you I don't think you really can. Not even in the setting like Dying Earth.

>>Are you going to read the rest of the Dying Earth stories?
Already did, but I think this very first collection of stories is the best one. Gives you a great glimpse into a fantastical world.

>>12285807
problem is urban fantasy has a huge cross section with young adult literature

>>12285893
I imagine you could out meme him in some way, make it so he unavoids himself or some shit.

>>12285891
Do you recommend the next 2 books?

>>12284595
That looks hilariously bad.

>>12285974
>Tfw i still haven't found an GRI sff book about a furry milf

>>12285948
Not him but the quality steadily drops off. Fractal Prince is Arabian Nights on Earth, the third one doesn't really have a classic lit theme, there's still moments of wonder and I do recommend them but they don't hold together as well as the first.

>>12285994
And you never will you disgusting little degenerate.

>>12285994
>he doesnt know about the adventures of two-dong john

>>12286092
shut up and recommend me some books with demonic waifus

>>12286155
How should I know?I don't read trash.

>>12286178
then what are you doing in /sffg/?

>>12286186
Making fun of you.

>>12286081
Oh no. I didn't even like the first one that much =[

I grabbed an audible trial and now they’re having a 2 for 1 sake. Are any of these books any good? Most of them looked shockingly mediocre

https://www.audible.com/special-promo/2for1/

>>12286155
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1484009355/

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/816440.War_with_the_Newts

Anyone here read this? It's a Scifi book by a Czech author, sounds pretty interesting.

>>12285948
It got more crazy. I don't know if I will recommend it. Read only if you enjoyed book one.

Any comfy standalone fantasy books reccs? Preferably in warmer climate since I'm in the 808 for vacation. Thanks.

>>12286472
The Strange and Beautiful Sorrows of Ava Lavender

>>12286472
God's demon by Wayne Barlow

How come there's no good biohazard/"zombie" apocalypse fiction? Joe Ledger series is decent enough for a bottom of the shelf schlock, but nothing really good ever showed up.

>>12286472
To Say Nothing of the Dog reads like a fantasy and is insanely comfy.

How's the kings tidings series

>>12286472
Hothouse, Earthsea, King Kragen, Dune

>>12286472
Last Call is set in Vegas. Great story based on tarot magic

>>12285807
Vurt
Last Call

>3-4 chapters into Demons of Astlan
>writing isn't anything spectacular
>read the prologue for the first Trysmoon book
>7 hours left
Why are self-published books so needlessly fucking long? Your FIRST of FOUR books does not need to be xboxhueg.
>read House of Blades
>despite it following some obvious tropes and the MC constantly suffering, actually sticking with it
At this point I just want the MC to gain the ability to fuck niggas up, poor guy needs it. I'm around 40%.

>>12286679
OH
Dragon in the Sword was a bit of a let-down, with NEVER FORGET every other chapter, a literal scene with Hitler, and that unsatisfactory conclusion.

>>12286679
>why are books without editors so badly edited
Gee, who knows?

>>12286694
Are we on the cusp of an age of celebrity editors?

>>12286679
>Why are self-published books so needlessly fucking long?
They are not. If anything, they need to be lot longer.

>>12285807
You could try Sandman

>>12286242
seconing this. anybody?

>>12286679
Demons of astlan and the night lord are exceptions. Those are longcat long. The others end too quick imho.

>>12286679
>he didn't want the milfpussy from trymoon
You gay?

I want to get into discworld but every time I try to read it I have trouble enjoying the writing style. Is there a way to suck it up and get the fuck over it?

>>12286780
Sandman Slim, or a different one? Because SS comes off as what a kid thinks cool adults are like. I read the first couple and it honestly feels like it's what a white, middle class teen dreamed up when his mom said "Your daddy went to jail, but he's a good person. You just won't ever see him again."

>>12286957
Neil Gaiman's Sandman. Being an anthology it avoids most of the problems that plague American Gods.

>>12285427
Heavily derivative
but like
so what?
You already possess the thing
Why not give it a read?

>>12285546
I'll list a few of my favorite fantasy series that are more mainstream:
The Death Gate Cycle
Chronicles of Thomas Covenant
Dark Elf Trilogy
Sword of Truth
Wheel of Time
Earthsea

>>12285546
Prince of Nothing

>>12286498
good christ this is the third time Ive seen this image and it terrifies me. Next few years with AI are gonna be an absolute trip

I'm reading Quicksilver gents. What am I in for?

So far I'm just getting upset that I was born normie-smart instead of a genius

>>12287150
ai is just simple pattern recognition software you absolute mongrel this is 30 year old tech

you're probably one of those retards that enables bookmarks and says he's working on machine learning software

>>12287337
why are bookmarks bad?

>>12286955
Which books are you reading? The earliest books (especially The Colour of Magic) have a very different style from the rest since they were written very early in Terry P's career

>>12287345
who said they're bad? the point is that AI is a meme, it is just simple pattern recognition that will never achieve anything resembling cosnciousness. it's a bluff that retards gobble up.

wow, they created a routine that takes certain polygonal shapes and puts them together in a coherent manner! well fuck me singularity is just around the corner!

>>12287353
I tried the color of magic, mort and moving pictures. of those I only finished Mort, and wasn't very impressed

>>12287337
Well with the emergence of deep fakes, recreation like this will cause all sort of information warfare.

>>12287399
considering that no one gives a fuck that assange is being made a living example of what happens to someone who merely showcases globalist agenda i really doubt that more fake news will change anything in the long run. i just hope to live a decent enough life before world government starts drone doubleplusungood program on an industrial scale.

>>12287377
Try something a bit later on, like Small Gods (a one-off) or Soul Music (Mort's sequel) or Men at Arms (many people like the Watch characters). Those are pretty much vintage discworld style, if you don't like those chances are the series just isn't for you.

Name a better book involving Santa Claus.

>>12287457
The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe

>>12287411
You're using memes and buzzwords without any substance. It's clear you haven't thought properly about these issues. See me after class

>>12287457
Cold Days

I finished this the other day and I enjoyed it, should I continue with the trilogy? The next one seems like military sci-fi and that's not really what I signed up for.

>>12286934
There are dozens of other fantasy books with milfpussy that are better written than trysmoon

>>12287697
Read The Dark Defiles instead :^)

>>12286681
Reminder that the Erekose books are just a part of the bigger Multiverse sequence in which the Elric,Corum,Hawkmoon and other books take part of,the erekose series being the first and the Hawkmoon series being the last.

>>12285113
Still reading, but I just finished Ulan Dhor and this has been my favorite so far. SUPER cool story.

Hopefully I'll finish it by Thursday, but I started it late. Are the next three books worth a read? I have the "Tales of the Dying Earth" book, so I could easily just keep reading.

>>12287075
>Dark Elf Trilogy
>Not Icewind Dale
Cringe

Still no epub for SS3?

>>12287697
IIRC the military stuff was pretty secondary to them stealing a space ship or whatever they were doing.

>>12285113
>Did you like the book?
Yeah, it was great and Vance has a really unique style.
>What's your favourite story? (Why?)
Really hard to pick, I enjoyed the shorter ones. Probably Turjan of Miir because it sucked me in immediately with the imagery and prose. I liked the bits in Embelyon also.
>Do you like the dying earth setting or is it just a meme?
Setting is really cool
>How would you avoid my boy Chun the Unavoidable?
Impossible
>Are you going to read the rest of the Dying Earth stories?
Yes, I'm reading Eyes of the Overworld now and enjoying it a little more I think.

>>12287208
Stephenson is targeted at normie-smart, you'll be fine. You're in for long, boring explanations of the origins of calculus and the scientific method interspersed with Half-Cocked Jack murdering his way around the 17th century and Isaac Newton being Isaac Newton.

>>12287816
>Still no epub for SS3?
its on mam, bibliotik and irc.

>>12287830
That I can handle. it sounds like my bag and there's something about the prose that makes it feel smooth.

I just wish it was still possible for a single person with no expensive equipment to make scientific discoveries. Not that I'd be able to do it

>>12287852
At least we're at the dawn of a new age of piracy and brigandage, perhaps you'll be able to make a name for yourself as a man of action.

>>12287668
Based (too bad the Series is dead)

>>12287850
Would you mind tossing it up on libgen or zippyshare or something? I'm too leacher trash for private trackers.

>get Discworld Atlas for Christmas
>skim through it
>see all the interesting ideas Pratchett never got to use
>very obvious plots for future books he could never write
Ouch

>>12287872
a book of short stories just came out this summer, and at least three of the stories take place after Skin Game. Plus one of them gave Maggie a really good hook for a middle-grade spinoff.

I don't think the series is definitely dead yet but it's in the ICU

can you please recommend some sci-fi that is
> modern
> set in current times or very near future

bonus if it's a standalone book or at least not a long series.

>>12287896
>its been more than 4 years since Skin Game
At least we may get a new TV show?

>>12287908
William Gibson's Blue Ant series is essentially "cyberpunk but today" and IMO is pretty great, series revolves around various people falling into the orbit of this eccentric Belgian advertising exec.

For something more action focused, Linda Nagata's The Red series is about this team of near future powered armor soldiers that get co-opted by a rogue AI, it starts out fairly generic but quickly goes very Metal Gear Solid.

>>12287927
Blue Ant is great
>tfw no bomber jacket wearing Gf

>>12285948
Couldn’t finish it. The female character pissed me off too much. She has absolutely no character development whatsoever, she forever remains a Mary Sue retard with a stick up her ass

>>12287011
because you could read something better? for free from the library even.

>reading physical copies

>>12287850
It's not on irc though, I just checked.

>>12288212
its not on the public channels.

>>12288222
I really don't get why not. It's not as if there are actual physical copies, it only take one guy to share his copy and it should appear on the public ecology.

>>12287785
Icewind Dale was boring. Dark Elf trilogy may have been bait for Linkin Park fags like myself, but it's still the best thing Salvatore ever wrote.

>>12288207
>gb2/waifu/

>>12285113
>did i like the book?
its easily one of me favorites, but so is botns so it makes sense
>whats your favorite story?
its gotta be t'sais's story. the masked man and the red haired bitch where great characters
>do you like the setting?
crumbling ruins of past civilizations while a flickering red sun dies. its pure pottery
>how would you avoid Chun
theres no way
>are you going to read the rest?
yeah this stuff is great
>>12287751
ulan dhor is great, the one after that has me falling asleep a little though

>>12285113
Is this the usual weak reception for the monthly read?

>>12287377
Thing with Discworld as a whole is the more you've already been exposed to fantasy in general the more you'll get out of it.

>>12287697
The planet might be different, but the character's the same. The same gritty setting, the same gun-to-the-neck suspense, the same femme fatale.

>>12285113
i nominate watership down
we didnt read this already did we?

>>12285113
i nominate the passage by justin cronin

>>12287399
Editing images in believable ways have been a thing since before they invented computers. The only difference nowadays is that you should also be (more) skeptic towards moving images.

>>12287751
>Are the next three books worth a read?
They are. I personally think the Cugel books are the best in the collection.

>>12288387
I'd say there's usually a couple more answers, depending on the book.

>>12288404
>we didnt read this already did we?
We have not.

>>12285113
>Did you like the book?
Yes. This is the second time I read the stories.
>What's your favourite story? (Why?)
Hard to say, probably T'sais. There's something inspiring about trying to be better in spite of such a mountainous impediment.
>Do you like the dying earth setting or is it just a meme?
It can be a meme. But it can also be a great setting when you need shit to be really out there and don't want to spend hundreds of pages on world building.
>How would you avoid my boy Chun the Unavoidable?
The only winning move is to not play.
>Are you going to read the rest of the Dying Earth stories?
Already read them, probably won't reread them now.

I nominate Ubik, you always need more dick.

>>12287908
Maybe try Blindsight

>>12286242
I happen to like Larry Correia, but he's not one who goes for depth. His characters are pretty well developed despite that. They're somewhat believable and have more dimension than a lot of the churned out pulpy sort of stuff that he is into. Monster Hunter Files is a collection of short stories with several authors, too, so there's a better chance of you finding a few that you like, so long as pulp monster stuff doesn't automatically turn you off.

>>12285113
Rerolling for A Scanner Darkly for Monthly Book in January 2019.

>>12288451
>1st in a series
>more than 750 pages long
I know I've said that there should be no limits but this is pushing it desu, I doubt people would read it even if it won the vote. Reply to this post if you really want to nominate the book.

>>12288535
>>12288595
Could you two decide on one Dick book? Or are you okay with me tossing a coin to pick one?

>>12288207
>reading sci fi in anything but tacky mass market paperbacks

>>12285807
Rivers of London is what you're looking for.

>>12287912
The first tv show was horrible. I don't want more cringe material like that. A monster can enter your home by pulling a piece of cloth from the wall.

>>12287850
You read ebooks on your browser?...

>>12287816
>Still no epub for SS3?
William is DCMAing sites that have it. All those patreon buxs goes towards copyright lawyers.

>>12287908
Library at mount char

>>12288222
What is the channel for irc again?
ebookz??

>>12288672
Ubik guy here, I'm fine with reading Scanner instead.

>>12285113
Unironically Throne of Glass

>>12288672
i didnt know it was that long, change it to earth abides then

>>12285113
I think we should all read Time Out of Joint or Martian Time-Slip by PKD.
Alternatively, In Other Worlds by A.A. Attanasio.

>>12289198
>cosmerefag is Dick crazy
Anons should have never introduced you to dick, you just keep going for more.

>>12284558
the gone-away world by nick harkaway

ANYONE READ THIS

>>12289440
No one answered you when you asked last time. You still gonna shill again?

what'd pat mean by this?

>>12288143
But would he?
Would you?
I doubt it.

>>12289766
Why
Are you
Typing like this anon
? It's not the first post
Like this that you did
.

>>12289772
It's just a thing that I
do sometimes.
Break up a
sentence.
Useful for
emphasis.
But not always.

>>12289609
Is he Jewish? I could never tell.

>>12289801
Are you pol? I could never tell.

>>12289609
What's up with the "white men are evil" rhetoric when he is one and clearly loves himself? All is forgiven if you let Tyrone fuck your wife?

>>12289801
he is jewish.

I honestly thought pol got their own site.
Why do they insist on coming to ours.

>>12289834
Where did he say this?

I'd like to read a book that has Egyptian gods, magic, spells, traps, swords, shields, armor -- all of that. Any books that would fit this bill? Essentially, it'd be like a "Yu-Gi-Oh!"-esque book, really, but for older audiences, not kids, and without the cards.

Has anyone read City of Brass? My friends tells me it's really good.

>>12289867
(((ROTHFUSS)))

>>12289902
Nah 2 minute google search showed Rothfuss isn't a jewish name and he blogged about not circumcising his son.(a jew was kvetching in the blog comments haha). Just another cuck with the T levels of an 80 year old man

>>12289902
It's a fairly German name and he's from a fairly German American state.

>>12289440
Not terrible as far as grimderp goes. The squire is a little shit, and the monk kid is useless. That said, it was a pretty enjoyable read.

How much backlash would I get if I had a dyke character fall for a guy and eventually end up with him renouncing her carpet munching ways?

>>12289347
Nah I just think they'd be better to read than the other two Dick books those other anons suggested.
My recent books are the Erekose trilogy which was ultimately wasted time, and now I'm reading some Amazon shit. I think I'll continue the House of Blades trilogy after this first book.
Hey gang, what is your favorite Warr-- I mean, Territory from HoB?

>>12289905
>Just another cuck with the T levels of an 80 year old man

please don't call the president a cuck.

Really never got into reading when I was younger because
>video games
but now, 15 years later, I'm becoming bored of vidya and want to read.

I like fantasy. What is the absolute ESSENTIAL recommendation for someone who likes knights, swords, armor, and the tale of a hero?

>>12289886
city of brass is pretty great. it makes magic feel magical

>>12289937
The Once and Future King

>>12289937
Dragonlance mainline would probably be down your alley. A lot of people say to read only War of the Lance and Time of the Twins but the continuing mainline trilogies were all pretty decent imo. I read them earlier this year at 28yo and they held up well.

>>12289829
You need to have the appearance of cuckoldry without actually admitting to it to have the most respect. It's cuck chicken.

Any books where elves are the main characters?

I'm reading the Elric of Melniboné stories right now.
Do they ever get actually good?
I've read the first one, and I just finished book I of Sailor on the Seas of Fate.
I find it pretty bad desu.
I was told I'd probably enjoy it because I really love the original Conan stories.
It does seem to be a little bit better written than the first one, but yeah, I'm not really enjoying it right now.

>>12290277
Moorcock wrote Elric because he hated Conan.

>>12288231
Because then they couldn't force people to join private groups and worship them. Despite the whole "media wants to be free maaaan" party line pirates tend to be hilariously egotistical, and will actually implement their own DRM to keep people from redistributing stuff outside of their exclusive sites, or in game cracks to keep other scene groups from reverse engineering them and "stealing" their IP.

>>12289930
>he fell for the self published meme
Good. I like the territory that gives you one piece fruits.

>>12290444
>pirates tend to be hilariously egotistical
Most pirates aren't on private channels (by definition), so I wouldn't characterize them as egotistical. I waited patiently for a year for Yakuza 0 and I'm grateful it was cracked.
I don't mind waiting for someone to upload supes 3, I've learned patience and know I'm not entitled to anything since I'm not paying.

>>12290473
Is that the wackiest warren?
How will Luffy and Kidd escape the prison?

>fell for it
I've read self-published shit years ago and still don't have anybody to discuss that shit with.

>>12290411
But does the stories eventually become good?
It felt so mediocre in some way, I find it hard to continue unless it changes.

>>12290504
Being good is boring, Elric is bad on purpose so it can be unique.

>>12290411
He doesn't hate conan,he even wrote conan stories when he was young,he just felt that every S&S author was copying conan and doin it wrong,so he did the opposite and created Elric

>>12290511
>Elric is bad on purpose

>>12289886
Creatures of Light & Darkness by Roger Zelazny

>>12289937
Waylander and Conan,Sword & Sorcery has most of the stuff you say
This too >>12289979 dragonlance is fun and easy to get into

>>12290267
Yes.

Is John Brunner worth reading?
A while ago I read an essay on him, praising as a sci fi giant on a similar level as Asimov for his dystopian novels and someone with a great love for humanity, but who never reached even remotely Asimov's status and reach.

>>12290498
>still don't have anybody to discuss that shit with.
You can discuss with us.

>>12285113
>Nominate
The City and the Stars by Arthur C. Clarke

>>12290734
Yes he is great,almost everything he wrote after Stand on Zanzibar is kino

>>12285113
I Nominate Gather,Darkness! by Fritz Leiber

>>12290489
I was using "pirates" to refer more to uploaders/facilitators rather than somebody who puts "slipknot discography flac" into google.

>>12290891
Fair enough

>>12285113
anybody got a mega link?

>>12290919
Why? Its available on the net.

>>12290726
Which?

>>12291424
Which what?

>>12291433
Please don't do this.

>>12289766
I tried to read Shannara in high school and found it derivative but not in a good way so I noped out.

>>12289937
Nine Princes in Amber by Roger Zelazny

>>12290600
idk why anyone ever recommends this book and I say this as a Zelazny fan. It's an experimental novel not meant for publication. If you're looking for something weird and over the top then it fits that bill I guess.

>>12290267
Hound and the Falcon
Drizzt books

>>12291486
Thank you.

>>12291486
>idk why anyone ever recommends this book and I say this as a Zelazny fan.
As a Zelazny fan I love that book because it's all the gonzo myths and fighting that I go to Z-nugget for. It oozes style, it's like Lord of Light compressed and purified, the crack to LoL's cocaine.

>>12291510
>Tfw the last chapter is written like a theater play
Okay this is epic

>>12291499
Which quote are you thanking me for?

>>12290267
Song & Swords Series By Elaine Cunningham

>>12288392
I've been reading almost nothing but fantasy for the past 7 years, and at least half fantasy before then

>>12291629
>Hound and the Falcon
>Drizzt books

You know, as horrifically bad as most "school for X/X academy" YA series are. I really think a series about a school for mad scientists could actually work as long as the school is just an ordinary school or special-ed school with no missions or combat simulations.

Actually the same thing could work for a wizard school too. I'd laugh my ass off if someone made a wizard-school parody of The Social Network where facebook was an actual book of faces.

>>12289829
I don't know but he's not the only celeb I see who does this. Probably just trying to get SJW cred.

I finished House of Blades earlier, hoping the upcoming tropes and plot lines presented in Crimson Vault aren't horribly cliched. Also want my boy Simon to have anything positive happen to him

Are any of her books worth it?

>>12289829
He relies on popularity for an income so it makes sense to ride what is currently the trendy thing

>>12289609
jesus fuck i want to beat the fuck out this guy

>>12285427
>>12285432
>>12287011

I just, literally just came home from the thrift store where I found and bought the 1st, 2nd & 3rd books in the Sword of Sharanna series. I gave Chapter 1 of the 1st book a read, and I liked it, so I decided to purchase 2 & 3, too. Hopefully I don't regret my decision! And eh, it cost we a total $5 for all 3.

>>12291970
The Tremaire series was about as good as you could hope for from "the Napoleonic war with dragons", readable though a bit rough around the edges in the first books, which is understandable considering her background in the fanfic community.

Uprooted I'm of two minds about. Essentially there's this girl in Fantasy Poland/Ukraine who lives near The Zone which was created (IIRC) by the Elves accidentally killing themselves with Magical Chernobyl, and she gets abducted by a local sorcerer to be a maid but oh guess what, this is a YA fairy tale adaption so she actually has magic powers and saves the day. It's entirely fine as far as these types of books go but IMO the story outline is let down by the implementation. And there's this strange setup where she falls in love with the jerk Dr. House sorcerer who's way older at her and also yelled at her when she accidentally killed a nobleman who was trying to rape her. Overall I feel this review is accurate though somewhat harsher than my opinions on it: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1290231676

tl;dr Tremaire yes, Uprooted only if you're a teenager or are very tolerant of YA stuff.

>>12292067
The first trilogy isn't great. 2nd trilogy gets better.
Be advised the structure is almost identical for the first couple books.

>>12291970
I liked the first dragon book a lot but haven't read any others. It was heavily inspired by the first Pern book so I went and reread that which honestly hasn't aged that well but it was ok.

>>12292061
Just rest assured he will die in obscurity since he refuses to write anything anymore.

>>12292061
You'd have a snowball's chance in hell trying to beat a man trained in several martial arts. You'd still have to try, of course, and that's why he got to be an expert lover of women.

>>12292067
The Voyage of the Jerle Shannara series is worth checking into, as well as whichever quadrology(?) is the one where Walker Boh fights the Four Horsemen.

>>12292363
Voyage is the third sequence.
Four Horsemen is the second.
Basically Terry got a lil better at plotting.

Molly from Neuromancer kind of reminds me of Peppermint patty from Peanuts, just cause of how much she says 'Case" in her sentences.

>want to read more sci-fi
>it’s rife with stale tropes, harem wish-fulfillment, self-insert MC‘s, fursona races
>the only well-explained aspect of the sci is their generic intergalactic travel system

The only things I can open, knowing they’ll be free of this and entertaining are 40K novels. God damn.

>>12293615
Well I'd suggest not reading Kindle Unlimited garbage to start with.

>>12293615
>40k is the gold standard
you're incapable of being helped

>>12293615
That's why Hard SF is the only good Sci Fi

>>12293809
I've kinda gravitated away from hard SF over the years. Too many books which are just cardboard cutout garbage where the author spends more time on describing some gizmo than writing a story. I find "social scifi" more interesting now, stuff like Fred Pohl's Gateway and C.J. Cerryh.

>>12289609
How long til he kills himself?

>>12293615
>>it’s rife with stale tropes, harem wish-fulfillment, self-insert MC‘s, fursona races

Is it, though? I thought SF largely managed to avoid the death trap that is YA literature modern fantasy fell into.

>>12293615
>40K novels
You could just try some fantasy novels. They are about on the same level regarding the science aspect.

I know this isn't the thread subject but I don't want to make a thread for this question. Could any of you anons recommend a book regarding Lord Byron? There's a bunch and I can't decide which. I'm just looking for a collection, hopefully of his better stuff.

>>12294313
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell - has Byron in it, somewhere. But otherwise, wrong thread.

>The king is evil
>Reigned for 6 years and 66 days

Bravo Martin

>>12294700
it's a pretty obscure reference, but highly educated history buffs will recognize it as the number of the beast.
It's a hint that the guy was evil and possibly the devil.
I wouldn't expect a brainlet like you to understand the reference.

>>12293615
>The only things I can open, knowing they’ll be free of this and entertaining are 40K novels.
>warhamma books are good, no better than most scifi
You are shitting on us, and your tastes are so fucking atrocious? People who read absolute shit shouldn't throw stones.
Fuck off and neck yourself.

>that part of Cryptonomicon where Randy gets godlike focus through nofap
Is Stephenson a prophet?

>>12295030
You get godlike focus by being a lvl30+ wizard. Most of the great inventors and thinkers of our time were wizard. Semen demons suck your vitality.

What is everyone doing? Shitting out Christmas dinner and left overs?

Some of us have to work.

>>12295788
>keeping lots of trash
>not adding my recommended Amazon stuff
kill yourself faggot

>>12293615
Read this anon. It's part "hard" sci-fi but clearly written and very entertaining.

>>12295835
I'm at work and shitposting

>>12295982
I read all those "trash" in that list. I will have to read your magic metroid zero book first.

>>12296040

Has anyone read this? It seems kind of up my alley, but a couple reviews make it seem like it’s kind of social justice-ey. Can anyone second, or is that mostly readers seeing it through their own lens?

>>12296119
I honestly thought the teenage skank would have taken puppy knots, and the kid would balls deep in some pupper pucci.

Humans colonize the galaxy but can't invent surveillance cameras.

why did /sffg/ tell me that the Book of the New Sun was bad? This is some of the most gorgeously evocative sci-fi fantasy i've ever read. really riveting shit

>>12296339
its all memers that havent read it

>>12296263
I bet they manually adjusted rocketship trim with valves and shoveled uranium directly into the reactor too.

>>12296339
What /sffg/ are you reading lol, BotNS is amazing.

give it to me straight /sffg/, is Way of Kings bad?

>>12296419
no, it just has bad writing

>>12296432
>it just has bad writing
in what way? Do you mean prose?

Hey anons, would anyone have a list of the best Conan stories written by Howard? Are there any that match the feel of Tower of the Elephant?

>>12295788
>morningwood

I get it.

if the prose sucks i can't read it

what should I read?

>>12296437
its worth it for kaladin's and dalinar's story alone, one of the best endings to a fantasy book ive read. dont expect much from shallan.
the prose is ok. it has bad humor and dialogue but his structure and worldbuilding is great

>>12296483
The Strange and Beautiful Sorrows of Ava Lavender

>>12296096
>magic metroid zero book
i am kinda interest whats this about?

>>12296419
No.

>>12296483
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell

>>12296555
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CZX4CQG/
This book. I have to read it before I put it in. Cosmerefag tastes have gone shitty in recent years. So I can't just take him at his word anymore.

>>12296651
i actually read guildmaster by that guy. i didnt like it much. is this in any way better or worse than that book?

>>12296651
>taking suggestions from a guy that like branderson
You only have yourself to blame

Sci fi about intelligent life on planets far away, in conditions/with bodies different to us?

What other series can I find a Stannis like character?

>>12297191
a fire upon the deep
blindsight

>>12296483
The Night Circus
The Last Unicorn
Hild

>>12296263
>Author couldn't predict the future
Writing science fiction isn't magic

>>12295788
Back at work.

>>12295030
It's an old idea actually--Tantra

>>12297362
Well lucky for you. I never left work in the first place.

how does /sffg/ feel about golden age-style scifi settings?

I want to do a story set on a martian colony that looks like it was designed when Year 2000 was still an entire lifetime away

>>12297806
Pulp is the new golden age.

>>12297808
atompunk or decopunk?

because I know which one I like, and it's the one that's never had to listen to disco

Any new fantasy come out this year? Preferably grimdark or low fantasy or whatever.

>>12297855
you know, it's the damnedest thing. Nobody wrote any fantasy this year. Not a single book. Not even a fucking short story!

Anything resembling serial experiments lain, texhnolyze other than peter watts who I don't find to be a good writer

>>12297366
nofap is only the initial stage of the tantric arts.
theres also parts about the right food(lots of read meat and spices that encourage semen production) and working out the right way. if you do it right you can figuratively cum buckets and orgasm whenever you want. you can also draw out orgams in the fashion chloe camilla does. for reference: https://efukt.com/20842_Derpy_Derp_Orgasmo_Girl.html
it starts with nofap but you actually have to fap if you cant have sex afterwards. basically you are training your body to produce more semen which does not work if they are not expelled.
t. had an indian gf in college. the really really really kinky kind.

>>12297887
I can read the fat from your sentence

>>12289937
If you're after something a bit fresher. The man's clearly done his research as well.

>>12294771
Eh, I'd call Dan Abnett a diamond in the rough as far as 40k fiction goes.

what are some books considered literary sci fi or fantasy? I want to read something in these genres but i cant deal with mediocre or shitty matter-of-factly prose. So far I've heard Le Guin, Wolfe and Peake suggested but are there any more recent books?

>>12298090
A Court of Thorns and Roses by Sarah J. Maas.

>>12298090
Neuromancer by William Gibson.

Anyone have alternate Lovecraft reading charts/orders? I'm looking to work my way though the Cthulu Mythos. Posting pic related as the most common example I've seen.

P.S. Don't respond about the quality of Lovecraft's writing, it's irrelevant to my purposes.

any science fiction book that gives you the feeling of the vastness of space? Stuff like "lonely astronaut lost in space"

>>12298407
2001 a space odyssey, but youve probably heard of it so now im at a loss...

>>12298090
Could Wolfe really be considered as LITERARY fantasy? How do you make the distinction.

>>12298394
order is not important at all, just read the core mythos stories, only thing i can say is to read at the mountains of madness before dreams in the witch house, doesn't matter if you read something in between those 2

>>12298509
It's not straightforward or fast-moving.

>>12298509
well i haven't read the man but i'd say literary stuff is named that way based on the quality of its prose, that being artistically beautiful or experimental/boundary pushing. Not just "he did this and then talked to that guy and went and killed the bad guy"

>>12298512
Thank you

>>12298526
"He shook his head" - the pinnacle of Wolfeian prose

>>12298512
> to read at the mountains of madness before dreams in the witch house
uh why? I read them years ago but I don't recall a connection between those two stories.

>>12288732
Rivers of London is pretty alright junk food for the first 2, maybe 3 books but becomes very bad very rapidly. I'm talking way worse than anything in the Dresden Files. I can't recommend.

>>12298589
an elder thing appears with keziah mason and the protagonist steals a little figure in their form in one of his astral travels however they never explain what the elder thing's name is or anything about it so it's sort of like a cameo

>>12295788
Is there any actually good books on self-published amazon? I'm new to the concept.

when did The Wheel of Time really start getting popular?

>>12297815
Oh you are one of those fags that calls everything "punk",go back to /v/ please

>>12298090
J.G Ballard

>>12298664
about 1992

I started reading The Color Of Magic tonight /sffg/

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm loving this worldbuilding.

A lot of people probably think this is a low brow read, but i thought it was incredibly entertaining. Anyone else enjoy this series?

>>12298603
You are entitled to your opinion.

>>12298833
Possibly my favourite fantasy series of all time. Sand dan Glokta the real MVP.

Best Served Cold based is Styria might beat the original trilogy but not by much.

>>12298090
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell is a likely candidate

>>12298526
>literary = prose
no

>>12298833
I am looking for more stuff like this.

>>12298883
The Black Company

>>12298509
Absolutely not.

Somebody post that literary critique of his stuff from a few threads back.

>>12296443
The Conan stories included in the two Best of Robert E. Howard volumes are IMO the best ones.

>>12298407
Omon Ra

>>12298090
>literary
The Silmarillion
Borges
Robert Aickman
Italo Calvino
G. K. Chesterton
Lord Dunsany
Jonathan Carroll
E. R. Eddison
R. A. Lafferty
Arthur Machen

What's your favorite non-fiction fantasy novel?
Tell me.

>>12299022
Throne of Glass

>>12299022
>non-fiction fantasy

>>12299022
Every 40k Codex

>>12299034
Thanks, checking it out.

I loved these books when I read them years ago. Anything similar?

>>12298407
Parts of the book Spaceman from Bohemia

>>12287908

>>12299113
The author have written a couple of other books, I have not read them however.

>>12298612

I think all of these are kindle unlimited. I can't remember.

>Cradles Series/House of Blades series by Will Wight
>Kings Dark Tidings by Kal Kade
>The Grey Bastards by Johnathan French
>Echoes of Fate series by Philip C. Quaintrell
>Spellmonger by Terry Mancour
>The Crimson Queen by Alec Hutson
>The Chronicles of the Black Gate by Phil Tucker

There's a ton of shit on amazon. I find the average reviewer is very generous with their reviews. Don't expect revolutionary writing but these books I have listed are some of the better ones I have read

>>12299540
>Kings Dark Tidings
cant speak for the others but this was pretty fun. i liked it a lot especially the first with all the misunderstandings.

>>12298912
That guy writing it was an idiot. He criticizes Wolfe as a puzzle writer then says Beckett is better and names the trilogy ... a puzzle book in which the third volume is narrated by a dick even though no prof realizes it. It’s a shaggy dog joke - the unnameable. The guy is a moron who wrote that ... and guess what ...

>>12297892
Hey /fit/. You expect a bunch of dyel limped wrist book readers to follow through all that?

Also
>t. had an indian gf in college
American "Indian" or the curry lovers? chicken curry is delicious

>>12298993
>asks for something recent
>gives even older fossil fuels than OP listed
Why is the reading comprehension of dinosaurs so bad? Is it because their brains are old and addled from nostalgia?

>>12298859
He is right anon. I dropped the series a few books in. Same with that prediction mage Benedict Jacka / whatever, it was copying Dresden and got bad. Had to drop it.

>>12299540
>The Grey Bastards by Johnathan French
>Spellmonger by Terry Mancour
By you including those two. Especially that spellmonger shit you list is automatically dismissed. You have shit taste. I bet you read the other monger books too huh?

make a new thread already
where's the general slave

New bread

>>12300038
>>12300038

>>12298612
Bayne's Climb took a surprising turn and ended up being a neat little mini-trilogy.

>>12298394
I've read every published Lovecraft short story, novel etc. (save his poetry). My favorites were The White Ship and The Horror at Red Hook. TCoC was disappointing compared to his more demonic/occult stuff, but it's certainly the most accesible, along with TSoI.