/lit/ - Literature

yeah, it's interesting, can be beautiful at times as well

Plotinus is reddit as fuck

>>12267276
Not an argument pseud

>>12267276
no that's epicureanism, stoicism, skepticism, cyncism etc. the meme tier shit

>>12267270
You talk about it. What’s it about?

platonism is the orignal normie shit... if u lived in 150 ad u'd be some heraclitean traditionalist cryhing about these conformist plato freaks..

>>12267282
>>12267285
Le epic mystic plotinus
Fuck off, arguments are for faggots

Can we talk about Herodotus instead?

Why he write about ants?

Cheers.

>>12267294
platonism was pretty much restricted to a small group of thinkers and members of academies. most intellectuals and public figures, the ones who actually care to look into philosophy at all, would have gone for easier and more accessible philosophies like stoicism

>>12267286
The transcendentals, freeing the soul from the material, contemplation of the intellectual existents (plato), the nature of the universe. I'm only 3 enneads in though. So far he has discussed beauty and what it means to be a sage and the properties of substance, the All-soul, the individual soul, the material and its relation to evil. He doesn't build a hierachical metaphysics but one of unity and separation. Unity within the The One ( the beyond existent which has no existential meaningful qualities) and its relation to the Intellectual Priniciple, the individual human soul and the material realm which he classifies as evil because of its non-qualitieness. He also stated that there is a direct relation of the human soul and the heavenly celestial objects which he thinks participates in the divine.

>>12267312
That sounds pretty cool, taking Plato’s thought further.

>>12267270
>reads a translation
>calls others pseud

>>12267341
do you know what "pseud" means?

>>12267270
>lover of wisdom, admirer of Plotinus
>reads a wiki tier abrevation
Literally kill yourself

>>12267270
contrarian faggot

step below reddit

>>12267354
Yeah, it means OP

>>12268069
>>12268030
>>12267820
Great conversation fellow philosophers of 4channel. Really sharpened my philosopher's stone.
/lit/ is now confirmed to be a pseud board. Cant even discuss a canonical work.

>>12267270
>Reee! Talk about enneads!
>Doesn't talk about enneads
psued?

>>12268106
See
>>12267312

Read the thread before you reply next time brainlet

>>12267312
>freeing the soul from the material
>Implying the soul exists
take the materialistpill

i haven't gotten into him yet because i haven't 'finished' plato yet.

with that being said, can anyone who HAS gone through the tradition give their opinion on this translation?

https://archive.org/stream/IndefiniteDyadPlotinusMetaphysicsMysticism/IndefiniteDyadPlotinusMetaphysicsMysticism_djvu.txt

>>12267300
Guess you'll love slurping down my load then huh faggot

>>12269143
awesome anon, this is the kind of stuff these threads are good for, got more stuff like this?

>>12269219

not much, i'd check out more of that guy's work if you're interested in the link. he does a lot of platonic and hermetic translations. he also has his own strange ideas on magnetism as a scientist. i'm reading preface to plato to understand what the words mean a bit more, but thats it

>>12269285
what does he say about magnetism? I love niggas who wax metaphysic about fundamental forces of nature

>>12267270
based Plotinus, his essay On Beauty is imo the most important for beginning to understanding divine and mortal purpose. Compare to Aquinas' ideas of wholeness/harmony/radiance, and the Vatican's recent pronouncements on the Via Pulchritudinis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV_UsQPTBy4

>>12267354
no I don't. Can you tell me what it means?

>>12269143
lol dude tears the fuck into pseuds, lmao like what even is an intellectual pedophile?

I love these fat boomer philosophers who know their shit inside and out and have no patience for brainlets

>>12269161
I actually wouldn't mind. hmu

>>12269759
it's another way of saying phony or pretentious person. now, pray tell, how does reading translations make you phony or pretentious?

>>12269143
>pg. 9
>The most ancient and unsolved mystery of the cause, impetus, reasoning, logic behind the souls' descent is something unsolved by all save Platonism and (genuine) Buddhism/Advaita/Vedanta

based and red-pilled

>>12269143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHXFQ494xPo

This dude's sharp as a fucking tack, just listen how fast he talks compared to the vast majority of even tenured philosophers, makes me feel like a fucking brainlet jesus christ

>>12268101
I mean you kind of asked for it with your memey OP

>>12269845
first tell me what is phony or pretentious about having not read Plotinus yet

>>12269878
is it autism?

>>12267270
>Talk about this fucking book you fucking pseuds I dare you
>I just got to the third ennead.

You guys are FUCKING RETARDS if you don't do what I just did 45 minutes ago

>>12270539
I don't think so, he doesn't have the usual signs of autism or Asperger's. It's just the combination of the bald head, the tattoos and the chubbiness that's disconcerting IMO.

>>12269878
stop shilling your gay youtube channel baldy

>>12270539
Probably.

Is this like philosophy of photography? This guy is incredible... but hard to tell if he's spewing pure garbage or knows his shit insanely well.

>>12270622
he knows his shit insanely well

>>12270622
>hard to tell if he's spewing pure garbage or knows his shit insanely well.

"I have no interest in religion; all religion is secularized metaphysics"

yeah, I'm thinking baldy here's been drinking retard juice

>>12269893
True. I'm just a young boy who wanted to have fun doe

>>12270622
he's a former anon who hates Ken L Wheeler. check out his videos about magnetism. he knows some stuff, but he's also had one too many doses.

>>12269878
>tubgirl is a great photograph

Thoughts on the Cambridge companion to Plotinus/Cambridge companions in general? Just picked up a copy?

>>12270652
Why would you ever contest that? He's absolutely right

>>12271442
>He's absolutely right

nice adverb there chief, I'm impressed

>>12267270
I just bought it, I'm only on the fourth tractate but it seems really interesting

>>12267270
Plotinus is based

>Thus he told how, at the age of right, when he was already going to school, he still clung about his nurse and loved to bare her breasts and take suck: one day he was told he was a 'perverted imp', and so was shamed out of the trick
Fucking based

>>12270652
look it up dood
dood look it up

>>12272846
I just now realized why people were posting his bust with the mommy milk meme, thank you

>>12272846
>tfw taking suck

Would anyone happen to have a pdf/ebook of the new Gerson translation? Looks amazing, but even the kindle version is like a hundred dollars

Here you go, man

http://www.ebook3000.com/Plotinus--The-Enneads_509124.html

>>12274352

HOLY SHIT, thank's anon! Happy holidays!

>>12270581

no

>>12267276
the OP is reddit, the ironic use of alarmist exclamations and self-censorship, pretending to be a 14 year old christfag middle america white bread is reddit. anime fags do it too to feign wholesomeness, that too is reddit.

>>12267276
OP is a fag, but Plotinus is literally anti-reddit

>>12268193
No thanks slave

>>12275154
OP is based but yes Plotinus is anti-reddit. My girlfriend is a very reddit person and I made her read Plotinus and it made her the most frustrated I’ve ever seen her. I actually think it made her lose love for me.

Unexamined metaphysics.
My professor who tried to dismantle Kant with Plotin made the following claim: "Kant also says the thing-in-itself world as if it were a unity, admitting to Plotinus' conception of the absolute oneness which even transcends being and reality."

Start reading real philosophy you subhumans.

>>12275195
says = speaks of*