/lit/ - Literature

What's your favorite Brandon Sanderson™ novel?

>>12252488
Well that's quite a difficult question but for me it's gotta be Oathbringer since it's the longest one!

>>12252488
Prince of Nothing

I love this series.

>>12252564
How is this not spam?

>>12252591
Because I am allowed to say that I like a series.

>>12252626
Same picture every time, you don't even say why is good, you just SPAM the same thing on every thread. It's like it's your job to do it. Like a shill.

>>12252638
You're being hyperbolic.

>>12252638
Just report and ignore senpai

>>12252657
Am I? Did you actually read those books? I'm tempted to actually do it (obviously not paying for them) and then ask you questions about them on the next thread you post that picture. Will you be able to answer them? I wonder.

>>12252667
Yea sure, I'll be able to answer them.
Maybe use a name or tripcode so I can identify you next thread.

How do you go from this..

>"Freda, huddled in the bottom of Skafloc's dragon, saw him standing tall and bloody against the moon, making rune signs and uttering words she did not know. The wind shifted aft, became a gale, a storm, and with iron-hard sails and bow-bent masts and twanging tackle the ships leapt forward. Faster and ever faster they fled, like the spindrift, like the clouds, like dream and witchcraft and moonlight over the water. Skafloc stood in the spray-sheeting bows and sang his warlock song, unhelmed hair flying and byrnie ringing, a shape out of lost sagas and worlds beyond man."

To this?

>Lift summoned her awesomeness

>>12252803
You don't, I guarantee Sanderson never read /poul/

>>12252803
How do you go from this...

>"I know, with a sureness beyond proof, that you sail into a trap, and I beg you, by the milk I gave you as a child and the kisses as a man, to stay home this one time"

To this?

>wtf literally no mommy gf

>>12252808
Ackchuali,sanderson knows about old fantasy lit,the fat piece of shit just doesn't give a fuck and continues to rape the fantasy genre

The Lyonesse trilogy kinda fizzles after the first one. Is dying Earth better?

why aren't myths still being made? The most recent person I can think of with outright mythical stories told about him is Tesla.

even for a century before him we only had tall tales

>>12252944
You don't see them because they're all around you.
>human history was one long progress toward freedom and enlightenment
>WWII was morally different from all other wars
>the Beatles broke new ground
>MLK Jr
You don't get to discuss most of it without triggering cogdis in somebody, so we don't talk about it in polite society.

im talking about mythical creatures, folk tales, real people accomplishing fantastic feats.

the closest thing we have to that is the thing about immortal celebrities (even though its only true for Anne Hathaway and Tommy Wiseau)

>>12252803
the power of Mormonism

>>12253058
>Anne Hathaway
Why is she immortal? She is only 36

>>12253222
jokes aside, if anyone's immortal its the actress who hasn't changed her look, name or career since she married Shakespeare

>>12252929
Dying Earth is short, loosely connected vignettes.
Unless you also include Cudgel and Rhialto.
I liked them better than Lyonesse, but it's a matter of taste.

https://twitter.com/Ada_Palmer/status/1059226871093649408

Damn, I wanted to start reading this series.

>>12253094
OSC wrote lyrical, poetic prose about extremely messed-up stuff and claimed his two greatest influences were Shakespeare and Joseph Smith.

>>12253058
How about chemtrails, Jade Helmet, and handmaid dresses?

Being bored on holidays I finally gave Sanderson a spin and finished the first mistborn trilogy. The hell was that ending, no book has ever left me feeling somehow so amazingly scammed. Mediocre but enjoyable books but damn did that ending ruin it all for me. Is this the power of Mormonism?

>>12253519
>Is this the power of Mormonism?
Good religious and faithful character becomes godlike and is given his own planet to create, mold and look after.
Its not exactly hard to see anon.

>>12253544
I guess I was too focused on all the jesus like self sacrificing and anime villain monologues to see that twist but yes, should had seen it coming.

https://twitter.com/Ada_Palmer/status/1059226871093649408

>>12253576
I meant it's not hard to see how it was inspired by his Mormonism, not that it was easy to predict the ending, I didn't see that coming at fucking all.

>>12253605
Yeah I saw it partially coming but no ending twist has left me feeling so stale, in fantasy at least.

>>12252488

I really liked Warbreaker because secretly I'm a romancefag

Waiting for The Bright Sword, I feel a tiny sliver of what it's like to have been an ASOIAF fan all along.

opinions?

>story is about rational characters trying to survive in a wonderland unsuited for human life for a matter of weeks/months
>the apparent villain is a dictator of the same cut as the queen of hearts
>however, it's revealed he's a puppet ruler. His adviser is a perfectly rational, and ruthless puppet master

>>12253966
hyper rational characters is based, alice in wonderland setting is cringe. Think of a better one. It doesn't have to be grimdark, but thats too childish to be interesting imo.

>>12253990
It's not wonderland in the sense that it's written for young children. It's like wonderland in the sense that it's surreal

What's good for inserting myself as the main character?

>>12254076
You can insert yourself into my character

Is The Colour Of Mafic alright for a 10 y/o boy?

>>12254237
give him amulet of samarkand instead. Tbqh the best YA series ive ever read

>>12254244
Oh yeah, I actually heard about that one long ago but didn't actually read it, I'll probably do that now as well.
Thanks.

Gotten a huge phone and the Gutenberg app. I got some Edgar Rice Burroughs. >>12254347
Could I have Sci-fi titles?

>>12254370
Whoops. Wrong quoting.

>>12252453
>what are you reading?
Eternal Champion by Moorcock
>what are you reading next?
Phoenix in Obsidian (sequel)
>amazon kindle gem you recently found
The last Amazon thing I read was mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=1293&t=2568095&hilit=Broken+Stars which was alright. I like the concept.

>>12254498
>Eternal Champion by Moorcock
Elric is my favorite character in all of fiction after John Constantine

But they're both manifestations of the Eternal Champion

>>12254347

Colour of Magic has some adult stuff in it, nothing too explicit if I recall but there is at least a virgin sacrifice being upset that she didn't go out on Friday nights.

>>12254076
Any japanese light novel, fucking weebs can only write self insert cardboard MCs

Anybody got a Super Sales 3 epub? It's not up in the usual places as far as I can see.

Have any of you read this? Because if so I have a question.

About a third of the way through Fellowship of the Ring. When does it get good?

Is it a mistake to make my characters nameless, referring to them only as what they are (e.g. The Boy)

>>12255414
Define "good"
That part of the book is mostly comfy shit happening in comfy scenarios, I enjoyed that greatly but I can see why people find it boring.

>>12255464
When will an action scene happen that isn't resolved by tom bombadil

>>12254076
Read Conan if you are /FitLit/

>>12254559
>Elric is my favorite
>Not Based Dorian Chadmoon

fucking hell, it's been four years and I still don't have a solid plot for this novel series that I believe will be my magnum opus if I ever actually write it

>>12255800
tfw I have both an overall arc, and individual scenes, but no way to connect them.

>>12255519
I ran out of steam on that series after the third book. Which is probably for the best because I read the spoilers for the fourth book and it sounds like it ends in typical Moorcockian style.

>>12255519
My other favorite /sffg/ material is The Magicians Trilogy and Vurt, so I definitely have a preference for protagonists struggling with self-worth and finding a place to fit in.

Hawkmoon is great though.

>>12255492
like a minute

I just finished the first Mistborn novel and it was pretty good, does the trilogy get even better /lit/?

>>12256356
The magicians is a kino trilogy

>>12256828
No it doesn't, the first book has the best pacing and feels more focused than what follows

>>12256848
Do you think they still worth reading?

About a week until deadline! Get hype!

>>12256854
I found that the second book despite dragging in the middle was a very easy read, if you enjoyed the first I recommend finishing the trilogy. They're fun reads.

>>12252944
Moot is a mythical person.

>>12253420
>tfw I started the first book a week ago, assuming the fourth one would be released in 2020
Fucks sake Ada.

Just got super into the Dresden Files
just devoured them. Read em all in three days rather than study for finals

>>12254370
Start with H.G Wells, Jules Verne and A Voyage to Arcturus

>>12255451
I guess it'll make it slightly harder for the reader to get attached to the characters but I like it.

>>12253289
I wasn't joking... I seriously wanted to know. What the meme about her being immortal is. I haven't been a /tv/ fag since abatap got arrested.

>>12253966
Don't do it. The "advisor is actually running the country" trope is overused to hell. It's the oldest trope in fantasy. I honestly drop a series if that shit is revealed in book one.

What you want to write sounds like Alice in wonderland meets the Wizard of oz, only it's the grand Vizier who actually runs things. Read pic related.

>>12254956
Search the archive. An anon upped that and Daniel Black 4.

>>12255800
You know even if you finish no one will read. Why even try?

>>12256876
Jim Butcher, E William Brown, Scott Lynch and a few others are burnt out on their series and don't want to continue.

>>12256979
Butcher might make a comeback, released a few short stories recently. Allegedly the problem was
>divorce
>dog died
>got engaged
>moved to another state
>was told his house would be ready in 9 months so no writing space for now
>house ends up taking 3 years
>is now married again as of September
Apparently "Peace Talks" is due in 2019 after what will be four years
hopefully he goes back to an annual format, but he says the books are probably gonna get longer still

>>12256876
Why is he naked?
Did the streetwalker eat his clothes?

>>12257290
He's a wizard
he got ambushed in the shower iirc

>>12253058
Immortal celebrities are not so much mythical creatures as they are using mythical means. example: ritual murder of children and drinking their blood. I imagine Anne Hathaway's true form looks like Melisandre without her pendant.

>>12255451
It'd make it easy for the reader to remember who's who, so there's that.
I'm currently reading War and Peace, and if Tolstoy just called his MCs "the fat sperg" and "the handsome fag" I wouldn't have to stop every chapter in order to look the characters up.

>>12257290
she's not a whore, she was a reporter who harry had a dare with. unfortunately she showed up early while he was in the shower, and then the demon showed up, forcing him to bolt (pun intended) while naked

>>12254498
>>12254559
Redpill me on Moorcock

>>12257518
Likes drugs and hates Tolkien, so you'll either love him or hate him depending on if you're a degenerate or not.

>>12257518

>>12257546
>>12257551
kek, sounds like a mad lad
where should I start?

>>12257557
No, he's not saying he approves of both Hitler and Tolkien, he doesn't like either of them

>>12257559
I get it

>>12257551
There are still a few things which bring a naive sense of shocked astonishment to me whenever I experience them -- a church service in which the rituals of Dark Age superstition are performed without any apparent sense of incongruity in the participants -- a fat Soviet bureaucrat pontificating about bourgeois decadence -- a radical singing the praises of Robert Heinlein. If I were sitting in a tube train and all the people opposite me were reading Mein Kampf with obvious enjoyment and approval it probably wouldn't disturb me much more than if they were reading Heinlein, Tolkien or Richard Adams. All this visionary fiction seems to me to have a great deal in common. Utopian fiction has been predominantly reactionary in one form or another (as well as being predominantly dull) since it began. Most of it warns the world of 'decadence' in its contemporaries and the alternatives are usually authoritarian and sweeping -- not to say simple-minded. A look at the books on sale to Cienfuegos customers shows the same old list of Lovecraft and Rand, Heinlein and Niven, beloved of so many people who would be horrified to be accused of subscribing to the Daily Telegraph or belonging to the Monday Club and yet are reading with every sign of satisfaction views by writers who would make Telegraph editorials look like the work of Bakunin and Monday Club members sound like spokesmen for the Paris Commune.

>>12257585
>you can only have revolution my way
So glad he's almost dead.

>>12255414
When they leave the Shire

>>12255800
Genuinely curious, why do you think it Erik be your best work when you don't have a plot? Is this your first novel?

>>12256951
closer to the adventure time actually, but more adult-oriented

the idea behind it is "nonsense is serious business". yes the world is surreal, but internal logic does exist, even if it isn't familiar or hospitable logic. rivers of paint my seem whimsical, but when they're supposed to be your primary water source you had better hope youre a wonderlander and not a human

ultimately, i aim to explain why the setting is the way it is

Can I get away with a main character who rapes a bitch?

>>12257696
Thomas Covenant did.

>>12257696
you can get away with anything if its in a fantasy or sci-fi setting. rule of thumb is as long as you are not a backed writer that is selling millions every year that has to be formulaic trash you can write whatever you want to and through kindle you will get an audience regardless of what you write.
sjw might shit on you on goodreads but no one gives a crap about goodreads. and amazon doesnt care about what is in books. you can even sell pro nazi propaganda books for all they care. they only care if you mess with the books formatting or something like that.

Why can't Harry Potter fans accept criticism of their series?

>>12257850
because the series is objectively really poorly written in many way, so accepting criticism would out them as retards

>>12257850
Same as with any fandom; they've ingrained loving Potter as a part of their identity and thus take it as a personal offence when someone doesn't

>>12257850
harry potter fans are often the first to criticize the books, but most critics on lit aren't criticizing it for its flaws, they're criticizing it for being accessable and popular.

contrary opinions are perfectly valid, but contrarian opinions are worthless and frankly pathetic

>>12257922
t. apologist

>>12257859
you're illustrating the reason perfectly. you're not talking about harry potter at all. your insults are aimed at the readers, not the books. that's why people hate your elitest ass

>>12257951
>insults not aimed at the books
>the series is objectively really poorly written in many ways

absolute state of potheads

>>12256181
It does,it's very melodramatic but the chapter where Meliadus fights King-Emperor Huon is Kino

>>12252453
Hello /d/ here, any chance there are other books like this that use magic for perverse things?

>>12257557
Either Elric of Melnibone or Eternal Champion
Jerry Cornelius is also good if you want to go Full New Wave scifi

>>12258174
Thanks

>>12258164
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/88988.Harem_or_polygamy_fiction

There will be loads more linked off those on Amazon.

Also I'd guess that at least 50% of all litrpg books exist simply for the sexy stuff.

>>12257585
Is he a cultural Marxist?

Is Children of Hurin an actual full book or is it like a collection of scraps put together by Christopher Tolkien?

>>12258262
lmao

>>12258262
He is a /tv/ lonely and horny poster
>>12258278
Yes

>>12258278
>>12258341
Is it good?

whats your favourite arthurian novel /sffg/

I started reading Ready Player One for some perspective on what it takes to be an award winning, best selling author.

>>12258577
I'm sorry

>>12258553
honestly. the stargate atlantis novels..

>>12258419
Yes x2

>>12254956
Mind spoonfeeding me or at least tossing it up on libgen? I skimmed back through the threads until Oct 28th and only found the Daniel Black one, which I'm not interested in.

>>12257629
no, ive written one already but if anything this will be a third or fourth.

Im not sure it will be my best work, in fact it could very well be my worst, but its the story that's truest to myself and I want it done

besides, it's not entirely true to say i don't have a plot. I have pieces, but I need to fill the space between

>>12252803
Because different characters sometimes demand different writing styles? Why is this so hard for prosefags to understand?

>>12257850
>Harry Potter fans can’t accept criticism
>when most fanfiction turns Dumbledore into an evil bastard because it’s the only way to make sense of his retarded plans

>>12258553
Mists of Avalon.

>>12258968
I bet you think
>the more she shat
is great prose too

Finally getting around to this, I've missed Abercrombie.

>>12258164
There are some more in this chart. I really need to take time and update charts and make new ones.

The Wheel of Time is actually p good. Rand is a more compelling protagonist than this general would have led me to believe.

>>12259117
also going back to book 4-6 after I'm done with wizard of earthsea

>>12259306
Is the Gap cycle GRI approved?

not sure if /lit/ usually digs YA, but i just started Sand by hugh howey and its pretty sweet. a lot darker than i was expecting and a little immature because it's obviously written for older teens, but i like it so far.

>>12257850
most read it while kids so it holds massive nostalgia for it especially if they read it as they came out so they were "the same age" as Harry the whole time

>>12259656
incorrect, the series is awful

>>12259656
Gotta remember most of the people in these threads have little or no attention span, take their criticism of anything with a grain of salt. Remember the next time you hear somebody shitting on a book that there's a reasonably good chance they were listening to it as an audio book in the back ground while they played video games or commuted to work. That's the type of person your'e dealing with here.

>>12259656
This general hates anything popular. WoT is an amazing series with moments of true brilliance and peerless world building. It also has many faults but then it would be hard not to with a series that long and with the authors health problems and early death.

>>12259656
WoT has great characters. I reread it whenever I'm between new series cause it's like going to visit old friends. It's interesting how perceptions of characters shift over the course of reading it, and how on rereading it you have such a different understanding of why characters behaved a certain way.

Nynaeve went from being a character I detested to being one of my favorites, upon rereading the series.

>>12259686

Best Served Cold is the best, I loved Shivers' arc from the trilogy to The Heroes.

>>12260020
Black Drow did nothing wrong.

>>12259656
WoT is pretty great overall. the issue is the overwhelming majority of female characters are boring, stupid, stuck up cunts. and because there are so many polygamous relationships in the WoT books they have a huge amount of presence.
obviously its not all female characters but a staggering amount fall into the category of stupid fucking bitch. it drags many books down just because they basically are interchangable in terms of personality and how they act. a friend of mine often jokes that there is only like 3 women in the entirety of the wheel of time books and they just take on different names.

just want to die lads

>>12254237
I'd start him off with Mort unless he is exceptional

>>12259914
>take their criticism of anything with a grain of salt
And take praise with a spoonful

>>12259821
Thanks, I'll look it up. Most of/sffg/ hates YA but /sffg/ hates almost everything

Just finished Foundation. Very good. Look foward to reading Foundation and Empire.

>>12259711
Yeah,the main character gets raped a bunch of times and then gets pregnant.

>>12259656
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>>12260177
Great post fellow redditors! upvotes for all of you XD
Edit:thanks for the reddit Gold

>>12260182
Based Thomas Covenant

>>12260608
>I know I'll call them redditors, that'll teach them for liking what I don't like

>>12257997
Don’t bully retarded people anon, it’s mean

>>12260608
embarrassing post

I wish I had the willpower to start writing this story but I'm all out of mojo and have been for months

I just finished Dune for the first time. Are the sequels worth reading through? I've already read the first 25 pages of Dune Messiah, and I find it to be less compelling than the original.
>>12260505
Just wait for the plot twist.

>>12260880

Let's say, and bear with me through this gross speculation, that you finally decide to get off your metaphorical ass and write your dream novel.

Fantasy or Science Fiction?

https://www.strawpoll.me/17086634

>>12260880
>>12260906

>>12260935
writing scifi is for big brains only

>>12261024
that is why mediocre authors like writing space fantasy, they can pretend to be smart.

>>12259656
Rand is not horrible. He's the best of the 3 main characters and he actually have a decent character arc. However he spend way to many books with a huge stick up his ass and his immature style of chivalry gets old incredibly fast.

>>12259914
Yes, I especially like the part in the middle where there's like two hundred thousand Aiel parked outside Cairhien doing jack shit for 3000 fucking pages while Jordan does "men are from mars and women are from venus" bits over and over again. There's other bits in there like the filmy dresses and and b-baka Rand!, etc. Either way it's tiresome, filler can be ok but WoT was extremely drawn out and repetitive
>>12260177
>because there are so many polygamous relationships in the WoT books they have a huge amount of presence
Yeah the harem setup clashed so strongly with Jordan's dominant woman fetish, it's hilarious how it unintentionally argued very convincingly in favor of monogamy with a less powerful woman like Min.

>>12258553
It'll probably be The Bright Sword when it comes out sometime next fall, if The Magicians Trilogy is anything to go by.

>>12260935
>>12261024
>Artemis was founded in 2064 by the Kenya Space Corporation and The Administrator, Fidelis Ngugi.

>When Ngugi was Kenya's Minister of Finance, she created the country's entire space industry from scratch. She convinced 50 corporations from 34 countries to invest billions of dollars into creating KSC by enacting special tax breaks and laws for the new mega-corporation. Because spacecrafts launched from the equator could take advantage of Earth's rotation to save fuel, space agencies found it much cheaper to launch from Kenya.
WE
IZ FINNA BE
ASTRONAUTS N SHEEIT

Are the last two Malazan books worth reading? I'm 2/3rds through Toll the Hounds and it is such a bore. Mostly the misadventures of a bunch of minor characters, a bunch of which are getting killed off, but not much else is happening.

I figured I'd see the series through to the end but I'm beginning to feel like it's pointless with how aimless this book is.

>>12260614
Btw is this book any good? We will get russian translation in february.

>>12261535
Our cover.

>>12252453
Any wuxia fans here read Desolate Era?

When I started it I was pretty much laughing every few pages because of how bad it was but I powered through because someone told me it gets really good and boy it did. Once I got used to the weak translated prose and the story started moving forward I liked it a lot more, I'm about halfway through now (1.5m+ words!!!!!) and I'm loving it, pretty much addicted to it at this point. There's really no literary merit to the series but it's comfy af and it doesn't pretend to be anything it isn't. Every plotline involves the MC kicking ass and taking names while simultaneously training to grow stronger and it's pretty just that on repeat with stronger and stronger enemies.

Currently I am reading King's Assasin by Robin Hobb after that I will read last book of the trilogy. I also plan to read Neil Gaiman's Graveyard Book and Neverwhere soon after.

But I also have a question. Does anyone know of good fantasy books with strong/main female characters?

>>12252453
Notes from the Underground
I don’t really understand his writing style

>>12261612
The Earthsea Cycle, the especially Tehanu onwards

>>12261612
Rook - It's urban fantasy but don't hold that against it. I HATE uf but Rook is the one exception for me. It's a book about a senior agent in a secret supernatural organization and waking up in a park with no memories of who she is. If you had to read one book from the list I'm giving you, it's this one.

The Traitor Baru Cormorant - One of the freshest fantasy books in recent memory for me, it's a book written around economics and geopolitics with a smart MC and a welcome change from the usual swords and sorcery we usually get in fantasy books. There's some sjw themes that might be off putting to some of the gentlemen on this board but since you specifically asked for female mc's I'm guessing they won't bother you too much. Skip the sequel though, it's not as good.

The Thief Who Pulled on Trouble's Braids(Amra Thetys series) - As the title suggests it's a book about a sneaky female thief. It's an easy read and Amra is a great relate able character.

Sasha - This one is written by Joel Shepherd, his sci-fi book Renegade gets shilled a lot here and for good reason. If you liked Renegade you'll probably like Sasha too. It's standard Gemmel-esque heroic fantasy on the surface, exiled princess who is a master of the the sword after training under a yoda like character blah blah, but what makes it good is the politics in the book. JS goes in depth I mean really depth with the politics of the world which is unusual for a book that is very clearly a heroic fantasy but it works out well.

>>12261612
>But I also have a question. Does anyone know of good fantasy books with strong/main female characters?
the second elderlings trilogy, liveship traders

>>12259656
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>>12260177
What you have to understand is the more you read, the less you are willing to overlook shit in books.
I'm sure that most of those that sincerely shit on WoT (and not just meme) have read large amounts of books and just can't take it anymore. I had Stockholm syndrome and would continue through an author's work even though the previous books were shit. I read and continued with Abercrombie, Lynch and many others because I thought the author would "improve" with later books, but they never do. It's was a never-ending cycle of abuse. After 1000 books or so of this it got tiring. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of books to read out there. Why should I force myself through the shitty ones in hopes that the will improve, when it's been proven time and time again in my experience that the cancer in the books cause them to deteriorate, instead of improve.

Wheel of time is shit.

>>12261654
> Rook - It's urban fantasy but don't hold that against it. I HATE uf but Rook is the one exception for me.

Rook is great but maybe the anon would like other UF. Most of the best urban fantasy has female leads.

>>12261698
> Wheel of time is shit.
WoT by any measure is not shit. You may not like it or can't get over something you perceive as a fault, that's fine, but it's not some badly written piece of worthless trash.

>tfw you see mortal engines

If the books are only five times as good as the movie I'm sure they'll suck too hard to read.

>>12261587
Wuxia fag here, started it but dropped it for some reason.
Can't remember why.

Just took a break from reverend insanities machine translations and am only really reading spirit vessel at the moment.

>tfw author is dragging out the myriad beast physique development.
>: feng yuan has an ironic harem of !notslaves

>>12255271
No the "emerald lotus" does not refer to an asian womans pussy.

>>12252453
>what are you reading?
starting the broken sword right now
>what are you reading next?
hyperion

>>12259821
>>12260493
>Sand by hugh howey
>willingly reading literal YA books
>sffg should read little children books painted black and white with the dichotomy of good and evil
>why don't a bunch of grown ass men liked to be preached to by an author about how love conquers all, and that if you hope enough you and two friends can take down the government or similar ruling body, everything will be fixed afterwards and you and your girlfriend will live happily ever after

>>12261535
Stephen R Donaldson is a shit author and I wouldn't read anything else by him.

>>12258262
he's a faggot

>>12261587
Read Wuxia by western authors.
Cradle Trilogy by Will Wight
Cultivating Chaos by William D Arand

>>12261654
>Who Pulled on Trouble's Braids
I'm getting WoT flashbacks

>>12261612
>Does anyone know of good fantasy books with strong/main female characters?
Urban fantasy. Jane Yellowrock by Faith Hunter.
Fantasy. Black Jewels Trilogy.

>>12261714
>by any meassure
It is too long, lack direction in the middle and switch to a totally different style for the last few books making the series practically unfinished, to name some of the worst faults. I don’t agree that it’s shit, I find it average, but WoT have enormous amounts of problems and I would not recommend anyone waste their time reading it.

>>12261802
There is a saying in my country. "Misery loves company." If he had to suffer, he will make sure others suffer by reading the book too.

Where do I look for full of life and not overbearingly dull fantasy like what Robert E. Howard wrote?

>>12261654
> Skip the sequel though, it's not as good.
but still an okay read?

>>12255451
>characters nameless, referring to them only as what they are
On this note, why in Lem's Eden the engineer is the only named character?

Why do people write? I mean besides money. What's the actual motivation to come up with stories, write them down, and sell them? Whenever I get frustrated or bored writing something, I always end up asking myself "Why the fuck am I doing this?" and so far my best answer is a combination of boredom and spite.

>it's a rand turns into a stumbling autist because there is a woman within 50 miles of him episode

>>12261587
How is it? I've read a few xiaixias but so far the only ones I liked were warlock of the magus world, because leylin was just so hilariously evil, and reverend insanity, because it's genuiniely amazing how unlucky he is for a xiaixia protag and his increasingly large unwanted harem of insane shemale love interests amuses me.

>>12261728
>MTL
Jesus, is it worth it? I'm at the start of book three(the zombie one), and the two chapters a day pace is killing me, but it's already kinda wordy and roundabout without feeding it through a woodchipper.

>>12261612
The Old Kingdom series by Garth Nix.

>>12258553
The Warlord Chronicles but I don't know if it counts as fantasy. The "magic" is very low-fi and never really confirmed to be actual magic.

>>12261944
Nimue uses a blood sacrifice to summon a storm. It's fantasy.

>>12261802
Luckly I didn't believe /sffg/, because even though there is a lull between books 8 and 10, the payoff is totally worth it in the end and I'm glad I've read WoT.

>>12261278
>dominant woman fetish
...any /sffg/ content that does this well?

>start reading a webnovel I stopped reading a while ago
>binge it in 3 days
>reach latest chapter
>feel like killing myself
what the fuck do asians do with their entertainment, anime makes you gay and their novels make you wanna kill yourself. Is it magic?

>>12261612
Nevernight Chronicles

How do I write a cyberpunk novel that isn’t just a worse version of neuromancer?

>>12261937
>mtl

Not really, whole series goes downhill after the northern plains arc. Seems like it went from a creative project to something which pays rent. Whole story loses focus.

>>12262115
About to do the same thing with martial god asura.
Been trying to build up a backlog for spirit vessel but too addicted.

>>12262210
Do you know any other good web novels?
I just read release that witch and nothing else, but I enjoy it greatly.

>>12262200
Have something fresh to bring to the table, in terms of technology, setting, characterization, plot, or, ideally, all four.

>>12252453
>what are you reading?
Flowers for Algernon

>what are you reading next?
Death's End (last of Three Body Problem Trilogy)
Senlin Ascends

>amazon kindle gem you recently found
>owning a kindle unironically
I don't even own one ironically

>>12262221
For japanese shit there's afuritea, for korean there's dungeon defense, yours and mine asylum and emporer or solo play.

For chinese I haven't found anything with staying power but I would definitely recomend spirit vessel

>>12261729
Read up to chapter 8 of broken sword, can't wait to see Valgard meeting with Skafloc

>>12261698
So much this. Out of curiosity, what books would you recommend?

>>12262552
throne of glass

>>12262030
I enjoyed the books myself, Jordan’s writing is quite pleasant. Neither do I doubt your enjoyment. However the fact that we enjoyed the books does not necessarily mean they are good. The second time I read the series it was “completed” and I think Sanderson’s inferior writing is what made me take a step back, look at the series and realize all the faults I had ignored because I enjoyed it. It’s ok to enjoy mediocre books.

>you will never have a cute ghost GF who will make sure you never sleep through another alarm clock by making sure you never sleep again

i hope taping a QR alrm code to the door will at least prevent me from getting fired

>>12261296
>Because spacecrafts launched from the equator could take advantage of Earth's rotation to save fuel, space agencies found it much cheaper to launch from Kenya.
That's such a good idea, I wonder why nobody including the European Space Agency does equatorial launches from anywhere including French Guiana

>>12260935
Fantasy with SF elements because I am a reactionary and want to imbue the modern world with appropriate fear and awe

anyone here read Louis L'Amour?

>>12262842
the biggest issue with selecting a launch site is actually that you want the debris to fall into the sea, so you'll need to find an east coast.

>>12262883

>>12262896
that does indeed look like an east coast. Good job!

>>12262902
save it for Charles De Gaulle

>>12261921
For me it's because it's my best skill. Not writing would be a waste of my potential.

>>12261612
The Night Circus - Erin Morgenstern
Hild - Nicola Griffith (medieval historical novel)

>>12261714
I couldn't continue reading after book one because book one was badly written. i've tried several times to get into book two but it's still badly writtien

>>12262030
>a lull of three 700 page books
i am unable to waste that much time in my life

>>12262862
Not much.
I really like The Haunted Mesa though.

>>12261701
>Other UF

Like what?

>>12262552
Wall of Text coming:
All You Zombies
The (sort of) Dark Mage
Sunset(Nightlord #1) (stop at this book)
Fimbulwinter
All Systems Red (The Murderbot Diaries #1)
Ancient Ruins (Ancient Dreams #1) (read this only)
The Big Over Easy by Jasper Fforde
Treason by Orson Scott Card
Tunnel in the Sky by Robert A. Heinlein
Lucifer's Hammer by Larry Niven
Fevre Dream by George R.R. Martin
The Man Who Fell to Earth by Walter Tevis
Legend by David Gemmell
The Broken Sword by Poul Anderson
Girl Parts by John M. Cusick
Rivers of London by Ben Aaronovitch
Good Intentions by Elliott Kay (read this one only)
Something More Than Night by Ian Tregillis
The Trysmoon Saga by Brian K. Fuller
Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell
The Library at Mount Char by Scott Hawkins
Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein
The Time Machine by H.G. Wells
Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell by Susanna Clarke
The Iron Dragon's Daughter by Michael Swanwick
The Anubis Gates by Tim Powers
Metro 2033
Out of the Dark by David Weber
Johannes Cabal the Necromancer
Johannes Cabal by Jonathan L. Howard
Hull Zero Three by Greg Bear
Rough Magick by Kenny Soward (rare book based on gnomes)

These are 3.5-4.5 stars and one 5 star. Mileage may vary. Enjoy.

>>12261783
I've read Cradle, waiting for Underlord now. One of the selling points of the series is that Will Wight writes and pushes the books quickly, like every 6 months but now he's invested in writing his other series which is crap desu and it doesn't seem like Underlord will be out any time soon and I find myself losing interest.

I have heard about but not read any Arand books, not really interested in erotica or harem books so I've been staying away.

Check out Mother of Learning if you haven't yet, wuxia inspired web novel. Starts off slow and the protagonist is a dickhead for reasons initially so you have to power through a bit but it gets really good.

>>12261728
>dropped it for some reason.
>Can't remember why.
It's pretty weak in the first few books but improves later on.

>>12261937
>How is it?
I pretty much explained how I feel about it. tl;dr Didn't like it initially but really got into it after the first few books. But ymmv, the protagonist isn't standard gary stu, the power creep and the world are what I really like about it.

>>12263226
>I have heard about but not read any Arand books, not really interested in erotica or harem books so I've been staying away
If you can read those webnovels where the guys gets a harem and fucks everyone and everything, I think you can read cultivating chaos. I never said read all of Arand's books, read the Wuxia one.

>>12256860
I haven't even started it haha lol

>>12261535
>>12261540
I like Donaldson but honestly this one is pretty bland.

>>12263242
>If you can read those webnovels where the guys gets a harem and fucks everyone and everything
Literally haven't read anything that involves harems desu, webnovels or otherwise. I don't even do books that feature romance heavily in the main storyline.

>>12261698
Absolutely Based

is this any good? i read some pages and im not sure if i will like this one
i was told this has academy life and stuff

>>12263318
That is an absolute shit cover. Also FUCK ADARE.

>>12263318
The series promises a lot, the setting is great but fails to deliver in the end. That's the series though, the first book is good but temper your expectations after that.
>i was told this has academy life and stuff
It has academy life, monk life and court politics. That's the 3 pov's of the 3 siblings. Beware though, you're going to hate the sister, everyone does, she's the one in the politics pov.

There's a stand alone set in the same universe called Skullsworn and it's FAR better than any of the main books in the series. You don't have to read any of the main books to read it but I recommend reading the first book for some perspective and branching off to read Skullsworn.

>>12261850
pls respond

Sci-fi/space horror December review 2/5: Revelation Space by Alistair Reynolds.

Some fantastic ideas, concepts and descriptions bogged down by uneven plotting, pace and characterization. I wanted to like this more on the strength of the author's concepts and imagination, which were just about strong enough to pull me through the 500+ pages of book, but this was in spite of the wooden characters, stilted dialogue, info-dump style prose and needless padding. The ending - while interesting - was a complete mess, and unfortunately the lasting impression I was left with was regret that I'd wasted a good chunk of my December reading challenge on something that should have been 200 pages shorter and frankly written better.

I have another Reynolds work on my list this month, a short story, which may be a better format for him. But on the basis of this I probably wont bother with the rest of the Revelation Space series.

Next up: Ship of Fools by Richard Paul Russo

>>12263381
Not sure what you mean by "full of life" but check out Elric if you're looking for books like Conan.

>>12263318
I read the first book and found it okay. Haven't been super motivated to pick up the others.

>>12261698
I have a realistic appreciation of WoT's faults, that doesn't stop me from enjoying the things it does very well. Your criticism still sounds to me like a person with no attention span and an inability to connect with characters.

>>12253222
jesus, I thought she was in her mid 50s

Any books that go deep into economics? I was watching this anime, and I adored its economics-focused aspects.

>>12262286
>afuritea
what's that? I can't find it.

>>12263570
Sorry, it's arifureta.

It's self insert jap power level shit but it's a good example of it's genre and doesn't have filler arcs.

>>12263593
thanks guy

>>12263478
Orconomics
They even have the Wall Street Stock markets and financial institutions. If you are a money buff you would enjoy the series.

>>12261407
You mean you didn't like 100 pages about a side-character from book 2 ending with his death and nothing in those 100 pages had any relevance on anything else in the series?

>>12263412
Just finished Ship Of Fools and it was a huge disappointment. Failed to deliver on so many levels it is hard to count. The whole book is a giant plot hole. Interested in your opinion though.

I would suggest Diamond Dogs from Reynolds.

>>12263478
If that anime was Spice & Wolf go read the manga. It goes into much more economic detail than the anime had time for iirc.

>>12263286
It’s short and I doubt you have anything better to do during the coming days, your time is now anon!

>>12263825
>doubt you have anything better to do during the coming days
i will be meeting my sister next week, i havent met her for a really long time, i really miss her

recommend me brother-sister incest fantasy/scifi pls

>>12263478
>>12263803
oops, I meant the LN not the manga.

>>12261850
>>12263381
Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser
Dilvish the Damned
Jirel of Joiry
Legend,and pretty much anything by David Gemmel

>>12263868
Thanks anon, I'll be sure to check those out.

>>12263842
>i will be meeting my sister next week, i havent met her for a really long time, i really miss her
SS? Will you be stuffing her stocking? Going down her chimney? Frosting her tree?

>>12263842
>recommend me brother-sister incest fantasy/scifi pls
pretty rare honestly outside of actual smut there isnt much. try anya merchant. she does a lot of incest smut but it does not have any real plot what so ever. its really just smut for the sake of smut.

>>12263842
Based

I don't know if it count as sci fi, but I am currently reading Handmaiden's tale

>>12263996
ok

>>12263996
>currently reading Handmaiden's tale
Who would want to read a story about a virgin hand?

>>12263842
>recommend me brother-sister incest fantasy/scifi pls
Angel Station by Walter Jon Williams
Bio of a Space Tyrant
Nova by Samuel Delany (strongly suggest siscest but never shows it)
Jerry Cornelius series
If All Men Were Brothers, Would You Let One Marry Your Sister? by Sturgeon
The Story of the Princess Zulkais and the Prince Kalilah by Clark ashton Smith

>>12263996
It counts. Are you going to lie to your friends and say that you read it before the series made it more famous?

And while we’re at it, I heard that Atwood is writing a cash grab sequel, the poor book doesn’t stand a snowballs chance in hell to be good.

did myke cole get any better with his new series because shado ops sucked but I keep seeing the new series pop up places

>>12263842
>tfw the days of authors sneaking their incest fetish into fantasy is long gone.

>>12264020
Actually, I haven't watched the series. I read one other of Atwood books and liked it then saw this one on popular shelf in library and rent it. No big deal. I kind of like desu.

>>12264046
Atwood's books are generally ok imo

>>12264071
I thought you would like the series about the portal maker, when bookbinder would have been a better protagonist to focus on.

>>12264100
>Atwood's books are generally ok imo
Oh I agree. However the combination of big on TV (just look at GRRRRM lel) and numerous fans with very specific political expectations in such a late sequel does sound like an horrendous combination to me.

what books would reddit suggest I read

>>12264199
Name of the Wind

>lets take Eragon and Twilight and make an unholy amalgam of the two.

where are the archived threads for /lit/ at?

>>12264288
At the archived site?

>>12264215
read it already. what else?

currently all I have on the list are uprooted and house of leaves

>>12264298
which one? theres like 3 and none of them have a lit section

>>12264324
Here you go newfriend
>>/lit/

>>12264307
Name of the Wind is probably the book Reddit and this thread disagree the most about. The Locke Lamora sequels also comes to mind.

>>12264307
>>12264441
There’s also Jim Butcher and Joe Abercrombie, but it seems we’ve had some new arrivals lately so they might not be as universally hated any more.

>>12263842
The Broken Sword
Children of Hurin

>>12263799
>Diamond Dogs
Glad you recommended it, since that's the short story I'll be reading from him. I'm finding that I prefer the short story format for sf, so I'm expecting a better experience.

>Ship of Fools
I'm about 1/4 the way through and am not particularly impressed, will try to finish it and post impressions in the next day or two.

>Just as a metal hammer would eventually be corroded into nothing no matter how hard it pounded on sulfur

Is this a real Chinese saying

Did anybody read a discovery of withes? I liked the tv show and would like to read it.

>>12264668
the show is better. the books are meh honestly. pretty boring overall and the writing is what youd expect from a creative writing graduate.

>>12263412
>Some fantastic ideas, concepts and descriptions bogged down by uneven plotting, pace and characterization. I wanted to like this more on the strength of the author's concepts and imagination, which were just about strong enough to pull me through the 500+ pages of book, but this was in spite of the wooden characters, stilted dialogue, info-dump style prose and needless padding. The ending - while interesting - was a complete mess
IMHO this description can apply to most of Reynolds' novels. Which is a real shame, because his world building is stellar. I recently read one of his non Revelation Space books -- forget the name, but every character was named after a sword (Quillion, Tulwar, etc) -- and damn it, I fell for it again, wound up getting so interested in the world he built and the true nature of those towers and tectomancy and angels, and then it ended on a total anticlimax like always and we didn't learn the truth.

On a related note, can anyone recommend other writers with great world-building?

>>12265198
Brandon SanderGreg Bear.

>>12265198
If you want great SF worldbuilding may I suggest The Fractal Prince

>>12264441
why does /sffg/ hate Name of the Wind so much?

Maybe it's just me, but Kvoth is a character I have a really easy time relating to, even though I'm not really much like him beyond a few superficial things. Plus, I like how the story takes the "school for magic" setting and just makes it a college instead of a half-baked excuse plot.

>>12265797
I don't know, I liked it too. The amazonian section in wise man's fear dragged a little though. No idea how, or if, it'll end.

>>12265882
it does eventually.

honestly, everything from the bandits to that was kind of miserable, but I still found I enjoyed the book over all

Just finished the 3 Body problem. I don't feel memed honestly, but I'm not sure if I want the second one. it took the book half way through to get interesting and then ends in a way that feels unfinished. I get what you guys mean now when you say "Finish it in one book instead of the arbitrary trilogy nonsense." It just felt so bogged down in needless side plots and unnecessary science explanations. Wtf is Asia's problem when it comes to exposition in their media?

LotR is not for me. I don't give a shit about the world, the myths, the songs or even the plot.

What's something with a likable MC that doesn't force its world lore on you?

>>12265959
I meant the third hypothetical book. That fat fuck might actually hang himself if Trump gets reelected.

>>12252453
i want a book about mermaids doing mermaid things.
anyone know any?

>>12266432
>implying there will be an election

>>12265797
I couldn't get through more than a few chapters of the guy telling me how fucking smart he was before dropping it. Nothing I've heard about it has made me regret that.

>>12265797
Name of the Wind was fine. A YA style book with flowery prose and the suggestion of unreliable narrator which helped offset Kvothe's self insert powerlevels. Vastly overrated but fine for what it was if you like that sort of thing. However, Wise Man's Fear was objectively pure trash - poorly paced, poorly plotted, blatantly rehashing the first book, ridiculously padded and ditched the unreliable narrator slant for blatant self insert wish fulfillment. I'm not surprised Rothfuss is stalling so hard on the next book - he probably realised his limitations during WMF and knows he's going to struggle when he can't have 10 years to work on a manuscript like with NotW. Halfway through a wildly sucessfully series is a hell of a time to discover that you are creatively bankrupt, can't plot your way out of a paper bag and can't deliver on narrative devices you thought were a such a smart idea when writing your magnum opus in college.

>>12265797
It’s a really shitty book hiding behind admittedly decent prose, some good ideas and 10 years of editing. It’s also painfully obvious that Rothfuss self insert as Kvothe, “skilled lover of women” and all.

>>12261535
It's fairly bare-bones. Seems like it's more a set-up for the next book which is reportedly over twice as long.

>>12266224
Just watching Gobulin Suleya, Turkish animation about chatacter Gobulin Suleyman who kills goblins with the help of friends from his ummah

>>12265797
probably a reaction to how overrated it is. i remember when it first came out, it was hyped as some kind of new modern classic. it is far from that. gotta hand it to the publishers though, it was marketed really well and sold a lot.

>>12264307
harry potter
anything by brandon sanderson

>>12265198
I like China Mieville for world-building. He's not so great at some other stuff (his plot often drags) but his worlds always have unique ideas.

I remebered reading the edge chronicles when I was a younger lad, did any of you guys recently read it, or would you recommend it?

>>12266224
Chronicles of amber

>>12265797
Why have there been so many bum boys here recently?

>>12263842
Masters of Rome.

>>12263436
>Your criticism still sounds to me like a person with no attention span and an inability to connect with characters.
>dude like you literally read hundreds of thousands of pages, you forced your way through the bad and absolute trash
>your attention span is weak lmao, why couldn't you force yourself through WoT too, don't you know it's my favorite series right after lotr
>you have shit attention span that why you can't read it, even though you probably read more books than me I connect with the characters and that love conquers all, even shit writing

>>12264668
>a discovery of withes
What? Since when did it have a tv show? Is Hollywood creatively bankrupt? Why aren't they rehashing old shows? So many of the fantasy books I read are becoming tv shows.
Is this the Game of Thrones effect? Are they looking for successful books to turn i to shows in the hopes that they will blow up?

>>12265330
>The Fractal Prince
>let me recommend the second book in a trilogy

>>12266439
>mermaid fetish anon is back
You know real mermaids would be bald right? Closer to a dolphin with arms, than a gril with a fish tail.

>>12267103
You don't want to fuck a tomgirl?

Anyone who likes Wheel of Time only does so because it was their only friend in highschool. Prove me wrong.

>>12265797
>but Kvoth is a character I have a really easy time relating to
you and me brother

>Looks like Cultivating Chaos is generally being well received.

>I'm glad people are enjoying it.

>The major take away seems to be that it was hard to get into immediately. Which is... true. Wuxia's can tend to be mysteries unto themselves as every single one of them tend to have their own unique rules. More so if you haven't read the genre.

>Definitely a take-away for me in the future if I decide to write something as "out of left field" as that again.

>Definitely going to keep writing into it as I enjoyed the story, and it -is- part of a greater meta-verse with Blaise.

Next!

>FF2 is done. It's going to beta readers next week, invites will probably go out this weekend.

>I am now a full time author as of this week.
>I've started on 3 separate books at the same time.

>DD2, a new Paranormal Urban Fantasy (No joke), and a new GameLIT type of book.

Why can't more authors be like Brandon Sanderson and William D Arand? They have a will and desire to write and just pumps that bellow.
Why does E William Brown have fans wait 3 plus years for a half assed attempt at a fourth book, where he pumped a bunch of deus ex machina material to be used at a later date?

>>12267310
>Why can't more authors be like Brandon Sanderson
Some authors put effort into their work

>>12266915
I hate Armenians too

>>12267238
>using CWC language
Please don't.

>>12263192
>Sunset(Nightlord #1) (stop at this book)
Thanks for the suggestion anon. I enjoy reading this.

>Rough Magick by Kenny Soward (rare book based on gnomes)
Read it and wasn't impressed. 6/10

>>12267397
>CWC language
??? It's the tag they are under.
>language:english male:tomgirl

>>12267423
I read the cogweaver trilogy years ago, and compared to the shit I read during that year it was a breath of fresh air. Books usually follow dwarves or elves, but that was the first time I read gnome protagonists.

>Shit plot
>Shit characters
>Nonexistent worldbuilding
>Boring writing
>Everyone loves it
Fucking how?

>>12263318
Ngl it had cool story concepts but the the last fucking book was complete shit. It didn't deliver on any of its concepts, the Lovestory sucks ass and the ending is complete shit and barely makes any fucking sense. 2/10.

>>12267253
>>12265797
Question: why do you have an easy time relating to him?

>>12265797
They're just jelly cuz they can't be a martial artist, an expert lover of women AND the greatest living prose stylist all at the same time.

>>12267233
>a real fantasy creature
You forgot to take your autism meds again

>>12265797
His personality is insufferable. I'd love to punch him in the face.

>>12267917
don't you have a president to be so mad at you can't write a book over the course of a decade?

>>12267310
i like william d arand a lot. nigga read a book and decided he liked it so much he wrote his own. found success and became a part time write next to his dayjob until he could finally become a fulltime author. he has a great work ethic. a new book each month and sometimes even faster is pretty fucking amazing. and all of them are full sized novels and not some novellas or short stories. its pretty admirable.

Where is the slave?
Make a new thread already. Cunt, before we glass yah one.

>>12268222
The only problem is the angry protagonist and harem. He even tried to infect super sales with his harem fetish. I feel it's like a disease he can't control.

>>12267245
>he fell for the "only friend in high school" pasta

>>12268298
>infect super sales with his harem fetish
thats his thing from the get go. it never infected it to begin with its always his goal.
that being said i dont mind it since he actually writes great characters that all have different motivations and behave accordingly in the stories he writes. dude writes harem and harem accessories thats just how he is. he splits his works too. in case you didnt know at this point randi darren and william darand are the same person. under his real name he writes all the "fade to black" stories and focuses more on narrative. under randi darren he goes explicit with all the things that are implied in the arand books.

>>12267917
And look like you would be out of breath after a flight of stairs.

I unironically loved Name of the Wind until I found out it wasn't supposed to be satire. The idea of some washed up hero telling the story of his life an embellishing literally everything to the extreme seemed brilliant and hilarious. The I kept hearing about the author getting pissy about people not taking it seriously.