/lit/ - Literature

Why haven't you read Masters of Rome anon?

>>12234683
Because historical fiction eats ass.

>>12234683
Plague of Angels is the fantasy equivalent. You should try it.

>>12234686
Historical ass.

>>12234670
Two more weeks REEEEE

>>12234698
Jesus christ. That pose with a girl arching one foot to give the ass some curve is so old. I'm now noticing it.

What rule has resonated with you the most so far, /sffg/?

>>12234729
The one about imposters.
It was a good one.

>>12234729
The one about pol staying on their board.

>>12234689
>comparing that cumfuckery to Masters of Rome

Is the Book of the New sun any good?

>>12234670
I'm worried about you Kevin

>>12235083
Nah that's why everyone tells people to read it

>>12234670

>>12235083
No

>>12234683
it literally is neither science fiction or fantasy why does it keep getting shitposted in these threads

>>12235347
Genre fiction is generally tolerated, we just don't feel like changing the title.

Can any of you guys recommend me some good Fantasy audiobooks?

I like listening to audiobooks while falling asleep, so these things are important to me:
>soft voiced narrator, but not super dull
>the story shouldn't be so complicated that if I nod off for a bit while listening I won't understand anything anymore

I liked the audio books of Eli Monpress, Kingkiller and Riyria.
If anyone could recommend something like that both/either in terms of book and/or narrator that would just be grand

Well I now know why all the posts about this stopped when it was finally released. It's because it's shit.

>>12235358
Unironically Mistborn.

Are the Dune sequels good or will they ruin the first one for me? I have Messiah now and will probably read it no matter what but I'm more worried about the others.

>>12235414
They are good. Not up to the perfection that is the first novel but still worth reading. Stop at God Emperor of Dune, it's a shit show after that.

>>12235414

>>12235377
i can't even get more than 30 pages on the first book, if i want to jerk off i have better materials

Why are web novels allowed to be published before 1000 chapters

Why are web novels allowed to be published

>>12235448
Fair criticism. It started out poor and took about half the first book before all the fun engineering and sex started. The latest book removed almost all the sex and most of the inventions so basically had none of why the series was popular in the first place.

Why are web novels allowed

>>12235464
what are you reading

>>12235464
>>12235474
>>12235481
Why do you care?

>>12235485
Cultivation chat room
But I’ve also looked at a few reasonably written stories on royalroad with less than 40 chapters

All authors got started writing web novels, it’s not like you can just magically write a book
You need practice and feedback

Why are weeb allowed

>>12235548
>All authors got started writing web novels

hmm

>>12235426
This is fairly accurate but I disagree that Heretics is not worth reading. Also the Road to Dune is interesting and includes notes from Frank Herbert, cut chapters, and a short story based on a earlier vision of the Dune universe which is actually quite interesting.
But yeah throw all the freakquels that his son and Anderson wrote in the incinerator, especially Sandworms and Hunters of Dune. What a way to shit on his father's legacy.

>>12234863
It has all the buggering of little boys and girls that passed for common place in rome.

>>12235149
Vince I thought you left. I haven't seen you in ages.

>>12235306
Defending elyisum? Did Branderson finally write a sequel to elantris?

>“Valrissa!” Aengelas screamed. “Valrissssaa!” Holding her by the throat, the thing languorously picked her clothes away, like the skin of a rotten peach. As her breasts fell free with soft-pink nipples, a sheet of sunlight flickered across the horizon and illuminated her lithe curves . . . But the hunger that held her from behind remained shadowy—like glistening smoke.

>Animal violence overcame Aengelas, and he strained at his leash and gagged inarticulate fury.

>And a husky voice in his soul said: We are a race of lovers, manling.

>“Pleaaassee!” Aengelas wept. “I don’t knoooowww . . .” The thing’s free hand traced a thread of blood between her legs across the plane of her shuddering belly. Valrissa’s eyes regarded Aengelas, thick with something impossible. She moaned and parted hanging legs to greet the abomination’s hand. A race of lovers . . .

>“I don’t know! I don’t! I don’t! Pleaase stop! Pleaasse!” The thing screeched like a thousand falcons as it plunged into her. Glass thunder. Shivering sky.

>She bent back her head, her face contracted in pain and bliss. She convulsed and groaned, arched to meet the creature’s thrusts. And when she climaxed, Aengelas crumpled, grasped his head between his hands, beat his face against the turf. The cold felt good against his broken lips.

>With an inhuman gasp, the thing pressed its bruised prick up across her stomach and washed her sunlit breasts with black seed. Another thunderous screech, woven by the thin human wail of a woman.

>And again it asked the question.

>I don’t know . . .

>These things make you weak, it said, tossing her like a sack to cold grasses. With a look, it gave her to the Sranc—to their licentious fury. Once again, it asked the question.

>The abomination then gave his weeping son—sweet, innocent Bengulla—to the Sranc, and once again asked the question.

>I don’t know what you mean . . .

>And when the Sranc made a womb of Aengelas himself, it asked—with each raper’s thrust, it asked . . .

>Until the gagging shrieks of his wife and child became the question. Until his own deranged howls became the question . . .

>His wife and child were dead. Sacks of penetrated flesh with faces that he loved, and still . . . they did things

>>12235752
5edgy9me.mobi

>>12235715
Nop its an old short story, I read it cause appareantly its in the same universe as Skyward and I was thinking about picking that one up.

Any recs for when I drop ineitably drop Johnathan Strange and Mr. Norrel for being too slow and british?

>>12235358
Discworld, esp. the ones narrated by Nigel Planer

>>12234670
>reading all this stuff instead of participating in the monthly reading

is this any good

I started Wheel of time despite all warnings, actually enjoying it a lot. Don't care if it gets boring later, I can drop things without looking back if I can't stand them anymore. Already better than most things I've read from the genre, I like character driven stories and that's what the focus seems to be so far, hope that keeps up.

Also I'm pretty sure Nynaeve is the best girl, don't know why people complain about how she is early on. An angry teen girl who goes around with a bat as some kind of village healer is hilarious, I laugh every time she's referred to as "The Wisdom". At least it feels like Jordan knows what he's doing when writing "annoying" characters, it's not the kind of annoying where everyone is agreeing with them or they're supposed to be in the right, totally ok with that if the writer is conscious of it.

>>12236502
No one gives a shit.
Shill a book that was never shilled before.

>>12236665
Not him but Cold Allies by Patricia Anthony is an unexpectedly good read. It's about first contact in a 1990s WWIII where the Arab world has united to invade Europe with aging Soviet tanks, and nobody can really fight back because nobody else has oil, and global warming is devastating them anyway. It has I think 5-6 viewpoints across the war in Europe and in a US where the Great Plains are an actual desert, and with a fighter pilot who's been abducted by aliens who don't understand enough to talk to him.

The idea of the war is pretty dumb but it's made up for by the intensity of the battle sequences, which often switch to the loser's viewpoint. The highlight character is an ex-NEET remotely operating a halftrack mecha, kind of a prescient character in his relationship to reality, his fervent desire to escape the easy life in front of a screen coupled with his addiction to it. There are some absolutely chilling scenes with nerve gas, something too many authors forget is straight horror. The ending doesn't come together that well but it's a great ride.

>>12236665
Nahhh, fuck off I'm not desperate enough for blind reading yet, someone else can bite that bullet. Though the list is getting shorter and shorter, I hope WoT lasts me a while.

>>12236683
>3.2/5
>110 ratings
>8 reviews

Damn I still haven't started dying earth yet because school. Can't wait for finals to be done on Tuesday.

How are you all liking it? No spoilers, please.

>>12236683
Oil is abiotic in origin and can be found anywhere you dig deep enough
Oil is also not the only fuel, there are other substitutes or alternatives

>>12237009
yeah, like I said the war was dumb, and the aliens not being any wiser than "you should have fed the arabs lol" was disappointing. Terrific atmosphere though.

>>12237029
Sounds like too many pov’s for me

>>12236502
Doesn't really matter. There's like two dozen other characters that all have similar flaws that Jordan is clearly aware of and they still derail the series into aimlessness nonetheless. Wheel of Time goes absolutely nowhere thematically, philosophically, whatever you want to call it, it's 10k pages of filler

>>12236173
>reading anything when you haven’t read masters of Rome

>>12235752
Tell me.
What do you see?

>>12235377
There were ever people who thought it was going to be good?

Can anyone reccomend me some fantasy books with extensive lores?

Something that would take me years to read and new content just keeps appearing

>>12237751
Horus Heresy

>>12237708
please stop

>>12237751
quick search on google shows riftwar cycle

Anyone read this, a guy at work is always shilling it.

>>12237762
t. Vercingetorix

>>12234670
What kind of a spaz uses that much of a shitty list for OP?

>>12234683
I heard it had queers as mc’s in it. I don’t read anything that has homosexuality

Never seen Diamond Dogs, Turquoise Days recommended before. Loved it. Shows Reynolds greatness in less then a 1000 pages.

>>12238140
Fucking fags.

>>12238140
Smallbrain

>>12236414
>Thomas Disch
Yes

>>12237751
Forgotten Realms
Dragonlance
Warhammer 40k

>>12238140
It's not gay if you're giving.

>>12238403
That's just horrible, how can you be so mean anon?

>>12238491
B-but the adventures of the Lv 80 dark elf with EPIC twin scimitars and 500000 dex are Sooo cool anon

>>12238522
Elves are good for only one thing.

>>12238615
disgusting.
clearly the master isnt doing a good job if he allows his elf to run around with clothes and no collar. what a fucking cuck.

>>12238624

>>12238615
>Using the sword to lift her flat ass
where are the thicc elfs?

>>12238651
thicc elves are the best elves.

>>12238522
That's kind of fake news though anon, if you're a young adult and read the first 3 published and then stop you're reading a very good fantasy trilogy.

>>12238651
>where are the thicc elfs?
There are no "thicc" elves you dirty American.
Elves are lithe and beautiful not borderline deformed fat midgets you so like.

>>12238700
Based and Redpilled
>>12238753
Cringe and Bluepilled

>>12238113
A spaz who likes latex porn.

>>12235306
>I count weeboo light novels
Pleb

>>12238774
Go be fat somewhere else.

>>12237605
>goes absolutely nowhere thematically, philosophically, whatever you want to call it

Nigger I don't give a shit, are you sure you're reading the right genre or just using the wrong words there? As long as I like the characters and they fight some bad guys and enough interesting things happen I could not care less about a lack of philosophical depth. Can't think of any particularly thought provoking books in the genre anyway, it's just entertainment.

>>12237750
There were. The author upped the power gain too much in book four.
The little build-a-bear workshop is thrown out the window. 90% of the book takes place outside of the keep. I hope the 5 book gets back to what is good, and doesn't take 3+ years to come out.

>>12238920
Because he wants to write his magical scifi girl reverse harem instead. He doesn't want to write this series anymore but his patreon donors demand it.

>>12238943
Yeah. He tried to put out his loli space marine before Thrall, but got backlash.
He's rolling in dosh from his NEET patreon users, so I guess he doesn't want to ruin a good thing. He had to deliver.

>>12238968
You can tell his heart isnt in it anymore. Less sex, less violence. In fact, you could delete about 80% of Thrall and nothing much would change. Real disappointing.

Anyone read this? It's on Kindle Unlimited and sounds cool albeit a little edgy.

>>12238792
>Doesn't have guilty pleasures.
Come one anon,
in all honesty though I got into it cause of all the drama when the anime was released about how the goblins were a metaphor for Jews and the show was antisemitic, I didn't feel like watching the anime so I downloaded the books.
Very disappointed, not even a little disguised antisemitism, it's just LITRPG level writing with a ton of cliches.

>>12238999
Its not terribly edgy. Only the squire gets close to it. It starts weak, but improves as it goes on. Wish the monk apprentice would actually be able to do something on his own.

>>12238999
>It's on Kindle Unlimited
>posts the audiobook

>>12239087
>how the goblins were a metaphor for Jews and the show was antisemitic
Who ever said that?

>>12239128
A bunch of alarmist far left tabloid-tier websites that see antisemitism in everything, and a bunch of autistic and degenerate right wing /pol anons that see antisemitism in everything.
Yes I know I brought this upon myself for taking anything either of those groups said seriously.
But what is done is done and my obsessive brain won't accept if I start a book series and i don't finish it.

>>12239087
The goblins are just a little fun joke because in most dungeon crawlers and jrpg vidya goblins are always the weak (and really annoying) monsters,so making an anime/lightnovel where they are finally a real threat is kind of nice.it's still shit tho

>>12236414
This is the only Disch ive read and it was p good.

>>12239178
Yes that's what I figured out, the novels are just too fucking repetitive though, can't really enjoy them.

Just read pic related cuz a few of you recommended it. It’s pretty dumb but fine. Is the sequel worth the time?

Anything like Red Rising without a teenage protag that transforms into a badass

I wish I had the motivation to write.

One time, I managed to keep it going for three months and finished a first draft of novel. It's not something I've been able to repeat.

>>12238753
>>12238700
>>12238651

>thicc elves

you do realize you're literally describing Santa Claus right?

>>12238403
Mainline Dragonlance ended long ago

>>12239207
The sequel is quite different so many people don't like it. It's set in the same world but has a different lead(s). Myfanwy does appear a few times but only as a side character.

it happens all the time. The author took tones from japanese web novels and made it their own thing, it's a very western style novel though when I read it on royalroad. If you want to see more of weeb-westerns crosses, royalroad is basically that in a nutshell.

>>12239405
>Weeb novels have an elaborate and extensive set of conventions you have to follow, and various things you have to avoid
Japanese troupes, japanese audience, japanese language. If the audience changes so to does the content change. I've read royalroad stories that mimic the 'prose style' of light novels and they get a lot of attention, some even sell. It's a bigger market than you think, but selling to teenagers/weeb readers isn't as easy as you think it is.
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Anonymous 12/16/18(Sun)19:56:53 No.12239582▶
>>12239552
I get the impression that nobody reads these though. People who want to read something western aren't interested in weebshit, and people who want weebshit aren't interested in faux-weeb imitations. Maybe I'm wrong, but at least it's definitely not a popular style compared to its inspirations.
>Japanese troupes, japanese audience, japanese language.
It's more than just that, for whatever reason light novels are significantly more monolithic than manga for example. They're overwhelmingly aimed at high school boys with social difficulties who want stories involving a self insertable main character, tons of female characters, and only non-threatening male characters if even any main male characters at all. This is the classic weeb novel, though there are of course exceptions.


Who is right?

>>12238892
Basically just meant the main conflict of the series and the villains themselves are seriously lacking. Obviously intentional on Jordan's part to have all the evil dudes be so weak, petty and contentious but at the same time I don't really get the why of it. There's a bunch of particular stuff I could list off but main point is that something is seriously wrong with your plot when the world corrupting evil God faction feels like less of a threat than the we wuz Hawkwing niggers. Coulda maybe been saved thematically if the confrontation between Rand and Shaitan had been different but instead all we got is cookie cutter shit that actually made no sense given the very asymmetrical way the Good/Evil dichotomy was set up in the WoT universe.

>>12239394
>motivation
Same 2bh. I need to put myself on a schedule.

Already read Waldo, chase the morning and everybody loves large chests, what now?

>>12240375
Read Asimov's Foundation trilogy.

>>12240375
Find Waldo Now is a great sequel

>>12239404
And that's a good thing

>>12235306
What website is this?

I need something to read. Johnathan Strange and Mr. Norrel suuuuuuuuuucks...

>>12240591
Prince of Nothing

>>12238892
Dumb faggot

>>12240591
Masters of Rome.

>>12240591
>Johnathan Strange and Mr. Norrel suuuuuuuuuucks...
Absolute pleb.

>I need something to read
Pick one of the books from OP's image, they look "fun".

>>12240524
goodreads

>>12240223
I could see that being a thing in the future, the big bad in the first book cowers at the start of it before the old Dragon and does seem like a petty coward behind all the power, am actually expecting someone else to be the "main villain" of the series if there is one, or at least most of the conflict to come from the human element like darkfriends or third parties or something. He's fine so far since the main characters are helpless farm boys and girls but I could see that getting kind of one sided later on if they start shooting lightning everywhere. But as I said I don't really mind dropping it if ever gets too boring, the characters and the action set pieces have been cool so far, I don't care about the overarching story of the world that much.

>>12240650
Fuck off to outer lit if you have a problem with it cocksucker.

Just started Gap #4, Chaos and Order, lads
holy fucking shit I hate Nick what is wrong with this retard

www.goodreads.com/book/show/18168082-calibre-quick-start-guide
who /calibre/ here
are there any better alternatives for reading epubs

>>12241222
Dumb faggot

>>12241499
kys retard

>>12241531
Dumb faggot.

>>12241545
Have another, hungry cocksucker.

>>12238892
>As long as I like the characters and they fight some bad guys and enough interesting things happen I could not care less about a lack of philosophical depth
how does it feel being an intellectual cul de sac

>>12238892
>As long as I like the characters and they fight some bad guys and enough interesting things happen I could not care less about a lack of philosophical depth. Can't think of any particularly thought provoking books in the genre anyway
The absolute state of fantasylets.

>>12241574

>>12241574
>>12241576
Is this an outer /lit/ outbreak, how did neither of you retarded pseuds understand what was said there, pretty impressive since it's very simple. When I want to be intellectually challenged I do not read fucking fantasy, do both of you morons not watch movies/shows purely for entertainment, ever? If so I really pity your existence. Go on, give me some works in this genre that blew your walnut brains without naming Gene Wolfe.

>>12241604
>he hasn't read LotR
>he hasn't read KoED
>he hasn't read Lud in the Mist
>he thinks the only axes are intellectually challenged and purely entertained
>he doesn't believe in fairies
How's it feel to lack any sense of the numinous

Rocannon's World was great. Just starting the Hainish Cycle.

>>12241626
They only get better, Planet of Illusion is imo her finest work.

>>12241635
Planet of Exile or City of Illusions?

>>12241639
City of Illusions

>fifth chapter of Too Like the Lightning
>the first paragraph is literally the reference passage from RPO but for pseuds
What the absolute fuck. I do still enjoy the book, but it's not the 5/5 I had hoped for.

>>12241617
>dinoposter

Why do you even stay here when you don't read anything written in the last 50 years? And I wouldn't say LOTR goes very in-depth in the aspect of philosophy, it's just very catholic, the other qualities stand out way more.

I never said there was one axis either, you latched to one sentence out of context from a chain of posts because it triggered your autism, it was in reply to a post that talked about wheel of time "going nowhere thematically, philosophically", which he later clarified in a way that made more sense and was just talking about the villains being weak. The philosophy involved being good can elevate a story for sure, but that's certainly not the focus in most of what this thread talks about, which last I checked was shitty patreon harem fantasy. But when you call most of the genre basic entertainment pseuds instantly crawl out to post exceptions that prove the rule, really makes you think.

>>12241691
>writes a novel responding to greentext
>says other people are autistic

>>12241696
>that was a novel to him
And this is why people call fantasy readers retarded.

>>12241704
I now see I was wrong to call you an autist.

>>12240375
>chase the morning
I read the other two and liked them. Would I like this chase book?

I'm getting the First Law trilogy for Christmas.

I cannot wait :D

>>12240858
I also read Dr Strange and Mr Norrel. It was a great book. 4.5/5 stars. Don't shit on my op books. I just tried books that were memed. Some were good, some not.

>>12240591
Wall of Text coming:
All You Zombies
The (sort of) Dark Mage
Sunset(Nightlord #1) (stop at this book)
Fimbulwinter
All Systems Red (The Murderbot Diaries #1)
Ancient Ruins (Ancient Dreams #1) (read this only)
The Big Over Easy by Jasper Fforde
Treason by Orson Scott Card
Tunnel in the Sky by Robert A. Heinlein
Lucifer's Hammer by Larry Niven
Fevre Dream by George R.R. Martin
The Man Who Fell to Earth by Walter Tevis
Legend by David Gemmell
The Broken Sword by Poul Anderson
Girl Parts by John M. Cusick
Rivers of London by Ben Aaronovitch
Good Intentions by Elliott Kay (read this one only)
Something More Than Night by Ian Tregillis
The Trysmoon Saga by Brian K. Fuller
Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell
The Library at Mount Char by Scott Hawkins
Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein
The Time Machine by H.G. Wells
Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell by Susanna Clarke
The Iron Dragon's Daughter by Michael Swanwick
The Anubis Gates by Tim Powers
Metro 2033
Out of the Dark by David Weber
Johannes Cabal the Necromancer
Johannes Cabal by Jonathan L. Howard
Hull Zero Three by Greg Bear
Rough Magick by Kenny Soward (rare book based on gnomes)

These are 3.5-4.5 stars and one 5 star. Enjoy.

>>12241574
>>12241576
Are we being invaded by other lit again? Or is it /his/??

>>12241863
>Good Intentions
I doubt I'll ever read this book but it have one of the most hilarious Goodreads presentations I've read:
>WARNING: “Good Intentions” contains explicit sexuality, violence, nudity, inappropriate use of church property, portrayals of beings divine and demonic bearing little or no resemblance to established religion or mythology, trespassing, bad language, sacrilege, blasphemy, attempted murder, arguable murder, divinely mandated murder, justifiable murder, filthy murder, sexual promiscuity, kidnapping, attempted rape, arson, dead animals, desecrated graves, gang activity, theft, assault and battery, panties, misuse of the 911 system, fantasy depictions of sorcery and witchcraft, multiple references to various matters of fandom, questionable interrogation tactics, cell phone abuse, reckless driving, consistent abuse of vampires (because they deserve it), even more explicit sexuality, illegal use of firearms within city limits, polyamory, abuse of authority, hit and run driving, destruction of private property, underage drinking, disturbances of the peace, disorderly conduct, internet harassment, bearers of false witness, mayhem, dismemberment, falsification of records, tax evasion, an uncomfortably sexy mother, bad study habits, and a very silly white guy inappropriately calling another white guy “nigga” (for which he will surely suffer).

>>12241887
When these books were first starting up they had to put trigger warnings at the bottom. So sjw had no excuse to go into the review section to spaz on how sexist and triggered the author made them.
If some sjw did still go, other people would pile on them and point out that there was a disclaimer.

Recently there was a Daniel Black book 1 review where an obvious feminist was talking about not finishing the book, but that the author was sexualizing wamen as walking sextoys. She got destroyed in her comment section. When you looked at her read books you see she likes a woman who sexualizes men, and see them as walking sextoys. After she was piled on she deleted all the comments. Ugly man looking bitch.

>>12241914
>being this mad about some heffer on goodreads

>>12241691
>Why do you even stay here when you don't read anything written in the last 50 years?
The book of the month was published 68 years ago anon.

is Tigana worth the read?

>>12241390
on lunix i use callibre to organize and lector to read.
on windows i just use the built in calibre reader since there really isnt a good reader out there.
lector is really cool though.
https://github.com/BasioMeusPuga/Lector

I. Am. Too. Bored. To. Read.
Help.

>>12241390
Does anyone else spend more time updating their Calibre library than actually reading?

>>12242236
Of course not, that's silly.

>>12240858
>>12241863

JSaMN seems to have an extremely slow start and more manners than wonder. It's probable it gets better, but I have no patience to that far

>>12242163
Yes.

>>12234670

>>12235426
What are some books like Dune but aren't Dune. I am finally reading it and am enjoying plus think Frank is really good at writing so might go Golden Path route, but would like some variety.

Post the most obscure book you've ever read.

>>12242324
Throne of Glass.

>>12242324

>>12242122
>reading comprehension
Please leave the book club out of this

>>12236414
All Thomas Disch is good

>>12242303
Prince of nothing

Pros: post-apocalyptic, low-tech, magic
Cons: too much mah feelings sometimes

is this one good

>>12243236
I liked it ok

>>12234670
7 books total lol
some of them were rereads

>>12234670
>>12242324
I never see this get mentioned but it's really good.

why does she have to be black? fucking ruined it for me

>>12243426
>endorsement by fatty martin
do people care about that?

>>12243437
Normies do, plenty.
I have seen books where GRRM's name is bigger than the title or author's name just because he made a review or was edited by him.

>>12243437
Snodgrass and Fatass Martin are friends,they were the editors of Wild Cards

>>12241691
>Reading modern fantasy
Upvote for you fellow redditor

>>12243426
>Melinda Snodgrass
Is that an actual name or a pseudonym?

>Emperor’s daughter Mercedes is the first woman ever admitted to the High Ground, the elite training academy of the Solar League’s Star Command, and she must graduate if she is to have any hope of taking the throne.
Oh it's one of those books.

>>12241863
Based Wallposter

Are there any first contact stories that can compete with blindsight? Also will there every be another book after echopraxia? I want to read more schizo scifi

>>12242207
Read vintage porn novels,they are short and fun

>>12243426
Just imagine her as white.

>>12243426
edit your ebook to replace-all "black" to "pasty white". make her a dude while youre at it. and you might as well change every instance of gun to dick.

>>12242207
Try Masters of Rome, you'll be so enthralled that you won't be able to look away.

>>12243606
>written by a woman

>>12234670
I'm reading starship troopers for the first time and now I want space fascism.

>>12243631
How fresh is your fresh maker?

>>12243631
>i dream of shooting up a school, mall or church and have bad breath

>>12243437
The Vance Treasury has an entire preface by him

>>12243686
Alien ones, yeah.

>>12243622
Name any male author, guarantee Colleen has a bigger cock.

>>12243651
This is going straight over my head.

>>12243686
No u

>>12243631
Sorry sweetie, I think you misunderstood. Starshipt troopers is about space libertarianism.

>>12243631
I liked it better when it was called Army of a Dream.

>>12243686
>he doesn't dream of slaughtering innocents in a public place to offer his life to the cause of gun control

>>12243803
So what you are telling me is... Lt.Col Dubois.. the driver of the philosophical narrative.. is a libertarian?

>>12243812
I haven't read that but I do like the author. Have you read "if"?

>>12243606
Nah, just nah.

>>12243845
"If" is Kipling's best work. You should try Army of a Dream though especially if you liked Starship Troopers, it's most of what Heinlein was trying to say but as a short story.

>>12243485
Forge of God for first contact. It's sequel is downright weird but has a knockout ending.

>>12243855
Alright, I will. Thanks.

To the guy who recommended Eternal Champion, I am a whopping three chapters in and think this isekai will be alright. Thanks, I think.

>>12243485
Solaris

>>12243880
The isekai is never all right you simpleton.

>>12243798
How underage b& are you that you didn't get that reference?

>>12244152
I'm 20

>>12244186
Fucking zoomers.

>>12242324

>>12241839
Eh, I would think so.

>>12244409
It was written since the 90's though.

>>12237751
The Tekumel books maybe? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A9kumel

or that crazy "The Story of the Vivian Girls in the Realms of the Unreal" book by Henry Darger. Not sure if that has even been made publicly available though.

>>12244594
It has been, but it's crazy expensive. Your best bet is a university library.

Fuck, I wanted a setting where ink was one of the four elements and elementals took animal forms. Because the animal forms were based on urban wildlife, I wanted the ink elementals to be cats, but now I'm realizing that octopi make way more sense, especially considering that they have 8 lords.

Do you think displacer beasts are okay, or should I just use octopi and get on with it?

>>12244627
Octopi aren't urban wildlife. Make them urban wildlife and it works, but cats for ink is thematically much, much better (don't ever say displacer beast) because of their connection to the supernatural. Make octopi be asphalt elementals or something.

>>12244650
fair enough.

Also, no asphalt elementals. I have my four elements already

>gravity
>cloud
>ink
>hunger

To be honest, if I went with octopi though I'd actually have a good Earth/Sea/Sky/Space quartet. Ink as sea doesn't make much sense since there aren't really any aquatic feline mythical creatures besides the Underwater Panther

>>12244759
There don't have to be. Cats are mysterious as the sea. Housecats hate water since they broke their covenants, elemental cats are aquatic af

>>12244771
>>12244759
there's a some breeds of housecat that actually love water and will take a swim in the bathtub.

>>12244790
keep an eye out for magic circles in the litterbox

>>12244771
What if cats en masse abandoned the sea/ink and octopi are the newcomers? And those octopus villages we keep finding were hastily bashed together to manage their new responsibility. They're not as good at inkbending as cats but they're better organized.

>>12244771
>>12244790

realistically speaking, what could I do?
>underwater panther
>merlion
>sea lion
>catfish

I need at least 4 more

>>12244809
Feline Eastern dragon.

>>12244816
I'm going off of preexisting creatures.

However, I did think of three more

>tiger shark
>displacer beast
>lion turtle

>>12244829
leopard seal makes 8

>>12243485
He plans to write a third blindopraxia book but who knows when it'll come out.

>>12235306
you didnt finish book of the new sun?
also how do you guys save the list of books as a picture?

>>12245746
Anon posted it last thread. Full page screen shot.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/1-click-webpage-screensho/akgpcdalpfphjmfifkmfbpdmgdmeeaeo?hl=en

>>12245765
thanks

>>12245824
Jesus fuck everything there is a meme.
Also what is this willows and why does more than one person have it? Is there GRI APPROVAL involved?

I know describing something as "fairy tale-like" is kinda vague, but are there any (good) fantasy books that have a fairy tale vibe to them? Preferably something with actual fairies too.

>>12246111

I really liked Patricia McKillip's The Forgotten Beasts of Eld, real classic "wizard takes control of ancient beings then dies" situation.

Lud-in-the-Mist

The King of Elfland's Daughter

And I'm going to recommend the Vorrh because, even though I don't know if I'd call it fairy-tale, it really captures that innawoods otherworld

>>12243880
Hey that was me,hope you like it

>>12246111
Lord D U N S A N Y

What are the best sci-fi/fantasy stories that emulate noir?

>>12246602
Neuromancer.

>>12246602
Caves of Steel maybe?
Got a detective anyway.

>>12246202
>>12246296
These suggestions sound promising, thanks lads.
>it really captures that innawoods otherworld
That is a big part of what I want, I'll check it out.

I recently finished the complete Black Company and was left rather confused by the ending of Glittering Stone.

It was thematically cohesive, but grinding down and killing 90% of the named characters required a litany of unbelievable mistakes which made the last book just seem silly.

>>12235390
Man, I couldn't get into that trilogy after the first book.

>>12243854
Low teste low iq

I've decided I'm going to write a fantasy story about a big disunited island getting invaded by a coalition of little islands off the coast 4th crusade style. I don't think I'm going to put any magic or fantasy races into it but I think there's going to be one god that actually exists and manifests through occasional miracles.

What should I avoid doing?

>>12246987
Sounds like a pretty broad premise, what are the specifics of this premise?

>>12246602
Altered Carbon

>>12235306
Ah yes, the slightly intelligent /pol/ack.

>>12246987
>what should I avoid doing
Sacking Constantinople

>>12242299
>8/10 monthly reading books
Impressive.

>>12247396
You can tell he is a degenerate. Such perverted books in his library and he has a 3.6 star rating.

>>12247396
It's actually 9, I timed my reading of the Lovecraft collection to read Shadow over Innsmouth with the thread.

>>12247520
Delet this

>>12246111
The Last Unicorn

>only a few more days until I get a point on audible
Can’t wait to spend it on Wherl of Time Book 8 The Path of Daggers.

>>12247748
how does audible work? im considering trying it out but i was under the impression that you just pay 10 bucks and listen to whatever you want. similiar to kindle unlimited where you can just read any 10 books as much as you want and if you want to read a new book you just give back one of em and get the new one.
does audible limit you in any way? i mean i make a backup of anything i read on audible anyways but not being able to listen to what i want for 10 bucks seems shitty. or is it like free bonus points you can use to permanently get some audiobook for free?

>>12246602
The City and The City

>>12247762
10 quid a month for 1 point with which you can get any book you want, other than that you have to pay and it’s expensive as fuck.

>>12247762
If you want legal audiobooks you're better off getting a library card and Overdrive.

>>12247865
that fucking sucks holy shit how is that service even a thing.
guess ill stick to pirating.
>>12247895
id have an overdrive account still left over from my university days but honestly their selection is pretty bare most of the time.

>>12245879
can't help the meme stuff showing up in the graphic cause it's what all the normies read

>>12247865
you can also buy more credits which are usually cheaper than the normal audio book prices, like less than 12 bucks per book or less if the credits are on sale as they periodically are

>>12247929
>actually read RPO
>actually read Artemis
>average rating is 5.0
What the fuck am I looking at lmao

>>12247662
Is vibrator what I think it is?.... There is a qt asian gril on the cover too.

>>12247696
He said good, you nostalgia faggot.

>>12247945
average rating is bunk, I rated like 1 or 2 things this year, those books weren't one of them

as for those two, eh Ready Player One was dumb like a fumbling attempt at a litrpg with muh nostalgia thrown in

Artemis was meh and forgettable

>the author made one game of chess into a full three chapters
i hate webnovels

>>12247944
>shitty litrpg is 2200 pages long
Jesus fuck. How can you stomach all that in one go? Even the entire super sales on supes trilogy isn't 1200 pages, much less 2200. And those were stomachable at least.

From what I understand The Land is the worst of the worst litrpgs out there. The author may have pioneered it, but they have the most hated things in litrpg.

>>12247959
It's actually some strange stream-of-consciousness novel about a young Japanese bulimic-alcoholic that goes on a long ass road trip with a truck driver. They fuck all the time. Vibrator is, in addition to a read bait title, a reference to the idea that we all resonate at different frequencies which is why most end up normal while some become occasional bulimic-alcoholic fuck toys and some waste their lives on Cantonese washboards discussing genre fiction. It was shit. I would not recommend it.

>>12247967
>Ready Player One was dumb like a fumbling attempt at a litrpg with muh nostalgia thrown in
>he says while reading Aleron Kong sequel

>>12247964
It's very good. Are you okay anon?

>>12248001
annoying habit of wanting to see through things to the end, it's led to sitting through some of the absolute bottom of the barrel fantasy stuff

also audio books help for that kind of stuff, litrpg in particular cause having to physically read all those video game style prompts must be absolute tedium

>>12248010
So you advise I watch porn or read hentai if I want to see qt asians get mating pressed?

>>12248020
It was shit. I was memed into reading it a few years ago. That and the buried giant.

>>12248027
Yeah, basically.

>>12248025
Stats kill litrpg, and is used as word count filler.
I read some that recounted the stats to the reader minimum of two times per every chapter. Their entire stats and ability list. When all that changed was 2 points to agility... Sometimes they check it and there is no change.... after recounting the entire time, there is no change.
Those shit breed a special hate in some people.

>>12248015
and? one of those things does not invalidate the other and it's far from the first time I've forced my self through a sequel to a sub par series

someone has to read the shit to warn the rest of you anons

>>12248065
Ready Player was is miles ahead of Aleron Kong anon.

>>12248033
I'm sorry you didn't like it.

>>12248075
I never said I thought Kong was good either

>>12248085
Well your 5.0 rating and your hot shitting on ready player one made it look like you were defending Kong.

>>12248130
I didn't rate Kong's books either, the only reason it's on the graphic is cause it had a lot of pages, anon I'm on my 70th book for the year, and I've rated one of them, and looking through my shelf now it was one I reread that I originally rated like 3 years ago, so really I haven't rated anything on goodreads this year

>>12248156
Give them 1star if they are shit.
It looks bad your rating is 5 stars and you have such shit books.

>>12245746
No I didnt finish it, I have the last book though, it will probably be my first 2019 book just cause its bothering me not finishing it.

>>12245824
You didnt finish it either?

>>12241887
Holy... I want more...

>>12246111
Lyonesse

>>12247865
>tfw spent my first credit on a five dollar book

>>12246918
You shouldn't put yourself down like that anon.

>>12248849
What are some sff books where this happens?

>>12248849
very unerotic but athletically impressive

>>12248910
You mean two tight asian girls indulging in amusingly obscene behavior?
Throne of Glass naturally.

>>12248911
Yes one girl pushing her ass in another girls face is definitely not erotic.

>>12249043
You don't really have time to appreciate an ass when it's bouncing around at the speed of light.

>>12246111
>>12247696
The Last Unicorn is indeed great. Also, The King of Elfland's Daughter. I've sampled part of The Girl Who Circumnavigated Fairyland in a Ship of Her Own Making and it seems good.

>>12247696
Read it a few months ago, loved it.

>>12248537
Haven't read this one though, or anything Vance for that matter. Premise sounds pretty interesting, thanks for the suggestion.

Recommend some dark fantasy, but not the typical action/fighting/medieval. Something like The Seventh Seal movie.
Bonus points if not dystopia.

>>12248061
Try https://www.amazon.com/Broken-Stars-Universe-Fire-Book-ebook/dp/B07CZX4CQG/ref=pd_sim_351_22?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07CZX4CQG&pd_rd_r=28721d8b-af28-11e8-8742-1712fd196554&pd_rd_w=Cvcvt&pd_rd_wg=dEP5t&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=18bb0b78-4200-49b9-ac91-f141d61a1780&pf_rd_r=JQMG9RX5V6F8N9CVDAJR&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=JQMG9RX5V6F8N9CVDAJR#reader_B07CZX4CQG

>>12247944
>2200 pages
I'm sorry what. That makes it one of the single longest books. What could be substantial enough to the warrant 2200 pages.

>>12248061
Try a considerably smaller URL: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CZX4CQG/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i2

>>12249966
the land is constantly quoted for different things to the detriment of the litrpg genre.
first off the book is horribly written and has popculture references galore. at one point the mc runs around shouting out "bazinga". 2/3 of the books are pretty much spreadsheets to boot. thats only a small part of issues of the books though. then there is the author. he is the sort of guy that uses dmca takedowns and sicks lawyers on bad reviews. at one point tried to trademark "litrpg" and generally refers to himself as the father of the litrpg genre.
theres plenty of reason to hate the books and the author. the land books arent really a reflection of the litrpg genre as a whole. they vary widely and most fiction that falls under that umbrella-term is more game-lit than litrpg. its basically gamelike settings but without the spreadsheets and only sporadic use of numbers and stats if any at all.
its basically the github syndrome if you are familiar with software development. github has such a huge presence that people thing git = github. eleron kong basically did that for the litrpg genre so he has a lot of presence and people think that the land is what all litrpgs are like.

have some knights working out for your pleasure.

What is the next 'essential' fantasy after LOTR?

>>12250163
I hate to say this, but it's probably WoT or ASoIaF. Ever since Tolkien epic fantasy have been the most influential sub genre.

>>12250163
Throne of Glass.

>>12250163
The Broken Sword.

>>12250163
The Once and Future King

i read childhood's end and foundation.
they're poorly written. like milk from a rat.
is hard scifi = bad prose?
pls provide good hard scifi prose.

>>12250293
>is hard scifi = bad prose?
That's the tendency, yes

>>12250311
is dune similar?
i like the idea of dune.
don't want to ruin it by reading it.

>>12250320
It's poorly written but it's also as soft as it gets.

>>12250323
that's a shame. i could live with the soft.

>>12250293
Foundation is pure ideas, negligible literary worth and have not aged well. Childhood's End, on the other hand, I quite enjoyed.

>>12250366
Foundation is fine.
You did not age well.

>>12246627
I just finished the Vorrh it was fucking awful. It was a series of vignettes joined together with terrible characters and little to no cohesive plot. And the language is deliberately dense and purple, which is annoying.

>>12250163
King of Elfland's Daughter
Narnia
The Jungle Books
The Last Unicorn

>>12250204
>11 books notoriously full of padding and finished by some other dude
>an unfinished mess with no end date in sight
lol. i'll give you the first three books of GURM but not the rest of them

>>12250033
did he really try to trademark litrpg?
too bad i was planning to read the series

just want to die lads

>>12251048
Don't be one of those pretentious /lit douche hammers anon. This board has too many of them as it is.

>>12250674
But the padding is the fantasy. ANd in WoT's case the padding is mostly how incompetent the male cast is.

i want a scifi with cute asian girls

>>12250674
WoT combine Arthurian/european influence and fuckload of books, it's a perfect example of a post-Tolkien series. After that grimdark became more of a trend, then YA and whatever you define Sanderson and Rothfuss as. I'm not saying that any of this is good, just that it's essential fantasy.

>>12251190
Aria.

>>12251219
>anime

>>12251229
>I want white people to write my qt azns

>>12251233
actually yes.

>>12251234
not me but i say yes too

>>12251233
It would be better written by a long shot. Asians cant write Asians.

>>12243485
>>12245535
I believe the final blindopraxia book is scheduled for 2020 some time

>>12250033
Too bad I didn't dive into the shit and read it. I wanted to see him sick lawyers on me for my 1 star, 10 paragraphs negative goodreads review. Telling people that it's shit and they should avoid any trash the author spews in the future.

>>12245879
>Also what is this willows
Just read it, it is short and pretty good.

>>12251098
Me on the right

Who is the manliest man in Wheel of Time and why is the only choice and answer Thom?

>>12252173
>who is the manliest man in this book series for children
wew

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