/lit/ - Literature

>>12244908
What are some nice refutes of Industrial society and it's future?

>>12244908
he was right about everything

>>12244908
more or less yeah

>>12244917
If Ted's revolution succeeded, it would probably only create a second Dark Ages at best. Technology would inevitably return. All he would be doing is postponing the destruction of the biosphere by technology by a millennium or so. Instead of having an anti-technology revolution, having some form of engineered human extinction would be a lot more likely to work.

>>12244908
No. The amenities of current-day civilization make life easier and more convenient in ways our ancestors couldn't even begin to comprehend. Division of labor and modern-day machining techniques have vastly increased the standard of living for everyone--even the dirt poor--in society.

Ted basically said that everyone had a place in society in the not-so-distant past. This is patently false: surplus males have always existed, and unless you were lucky enough to be in a guild or born into an aristocracy, life was very tough.

>>12244981
you didnt read it did you m8

>>12245003
I read it. He made it sound like everyone in the past had a purpose. If you mean back-breaking physical labor, then, yes, you're right--if not, then no.

Ted was a social outcast. His life would've sucked any way you put it. The distant golden age that he refers to didn't exist.

>>12245026
his notion of purpose is that you have to work hard to survive

>>12245032
Human beings are social animals. Almost all of our sense of purpose comes from relationships and the community at large. Existential depression is a problem with a lot of above-average intelligence outcasts, Ted being a prime example. Ted would almost certainly be a loner (and thus depressed) no matter what time he was born into.

>>12244929