/lit/ - Literature

>>12229901
I am a homosexual

>>12229903
Oh.

Women don't make me happy. I don't want one.

I haven't met them

I don't know any book reading girls or how to approach the strangers in public :(

>>12229901
im ugly and weird

>>12229916
Have you tried this book?

Goths are overrated. Too made up and fake looking, and they reek of insecurity and issues.

>>12229901
Because women hate me for not being charismatic or attractive.

>>12229925
Yeah I've read it, how on earth would it help to talk to a qt book reading girl?

>>12229901
i do :)

>>12229932
>Too made up and fake looking,
Applies to all women.
>and they reek of insecurity and issues.
Just like myself.

I read a lot but to be honest I prefer art people to 'literary' or word people. Not that my people aren't well-read and quiet articulate, but I prefer visual or musical types to writerly types. The physiognomy is better, for one - larger, deeper, dreamy eyes, rather than the beady, weak eyes of writers; better sense of style; a more dreamy expressive style as opposed to the sharp 'coffee drinker' bearing of the writer; more intuitive ways of thinking rather than on-the-nose, etc. etc. etc.

>>12229949
*quite

>>12229932
Everyone is insecure

is that from Sandman?

>>12229961
Possibly true; but only low-status/unattractive men are held accountable for their insecurities.

>>12229935
I think he's trying to say that women are into Camus, but I'd like to add that only psychotic women like Camus

>>12229961
Reality is uncertain but some people deal with it more healthily, can actually show up and not be neurotic messes. Goths tend to be especially broken... seem to have bad family backgrounds and respond to everything with a guarded insincerity and histrionics. It's tedious and the recipe for explosive fallout.

>>12229978
No no, it was a joke about how to talk to Strangers

>>12229901
I'm not particularly attractive, lack social skills re romantic pursuit, do not know any available women in whom I am appreciably interested, and do not actively seek such women out.

>>12229985
Same here. Women and normalfaggot men will literally never be capable of understanding or comprehending this/our existence due to their inherent solipsism.

>>12229972
That's because men are conversely rewarded greatly for stepping it up and overcoming such doubts. I think it's quite normal to have phases of doubts in your adolescence or young adulthood, and consider a stance of questioning all this or feeling resentful, but at some point, if you have any sense, you get bored of the helpless depressiveness and grow some fucking balls. And when you do, you see that people were subconsciously demanding this of you because that is what life requires of you, and that it's better for you, and that it's the very vehicle that gets you laid and takes you through the world.

I'm not trying to argue for some ridiculous hyper-aggressive 'alpha' stock broker cliche, but yes you should embrace and adopt a reasonable degree of confidence and capable assertiveness. Don't succumb to loser-think because it IS inherently unattractive and ineffectual, just as someone getting fat is inherently repulsive and unhealthy.

>>12230006
There's a difference between being deluded and being confident. If someone is physically unattractive then that "reasonable degree of confidence" is interpreted as deluded unwarranted self-importance; regardless of "balls".

>>12229985
>work out, consider nutrition, dress decently and have good hygiene
>get out more and get practice
>meet people
>engage more with quality people with similar interests
>give yourself a little patience but have confidence, progress is gradual but real

There you go.

>>12229901
I do...

>>12230019
>>get out more and get practice
>>meet people
>>engage more with quality people with similar interests
>>give yourself a little patience but have confidence, progress is gradual but real
This is literal meme advice/chadvice and it doesn't work for everybody. You have no frame of reference when it comes to how ineffective this advice is for some people because you've never lived an existence where people pity you/are disgusted by you just by looking at you.

>>12230016
If someone is 'physically unattractive' they're probably neglecting their fitness, nutrition, and basic self-maintenance. Until they've put real time (and fitness is by nature committed, ongoing, and strenuous), they have no right to complain.

You might not have the perfect facial structure, but getting fit and healthy will put you at a level that will make you dateable to reasonably cute 6's and 7s, really. The only other ingredient is just getting out more and practicing social skills a bit. Even if you're autistic you can learn to fake it some, get your head around your blindspots enough to become fuckable.

>>12230036
Do you have some kind of deformity?

>>12230039
>The only other ingredient is just getting out more and practicing social skills a bit. Even if you're autistic you can learn to fake it some, get your head around your blindspots enough to become fuckable.
see
>>12230036
People literally look at me with disgust and pity and disdain before I even open my mouth. You've got no frame of reference so you just cluelessly spout off just-world-fallacy advice thinking it's objective rather than subjective.

>>12230044
I guess I do; men and women alike look at me with pity and disgust and disdain simply for existing in their general vicinity.

>>12230036
I bet you haven't actually taken / acted on any of that advice, and that you actively engage in bad thought patterns / negative self talk that gives you an uncomfortable, uneasy presence and mannerism that projects low value and registers as 'creepy'. Which is to say you can reverse-engineer yourself out of that kind of loop. Succumbing to the worldview that that is your condition is the very factor making it your reality and the experience you bring to others.

You can at the very least become passable to decent enough girls, and good company to others. But you have absolutely no chance if you commit yourself stubbornly to /r9k/-think. Resentment is living death.

>>12230057
(sameposter here)

But I don't mean to be unsympathetic, if you are experiencing such bad social interactions, or at least have that perception of them, I'm sorry. But I genuinely maintain that you can considerably improve your condition, and that you're largely bringing a lot of that to the table yourself in the way you feel, it's probably in your thoughts/energy. As for your physical attributes, as I said, you can improve that through fitness / nutrition / style enough to at least be passable.

>>12230057
>Resentment is living death.
And how am I going to change that? Others resent me; I don't resent myself.

As for the rest of your post, it's conveniently misleading and nebulous. Like I said; you've got no frame of reference for living existence as a wholly undesirable/pitiable/unattractive individual, so you just place the blame/onus onto the undesirable/pitiable/unattractive individual.

>DUDE just stop being negative and the universe will instantly shift things around to where the magic energy vibrations move at a higher frequency and you'll get the love and happiness you desire :)))
This is middle-age-housewife The Secret tier advice.

>>12230073
>But I don't mean to be unsympathetic, if you are experiencing such bad social interactions, or at least have that perception of them, I'm sorry.
>You're largely bringing a lot of that to the table yourself in the way you feel, it's probably in your thoughts/energy.
Stop being so facetious.

>As for your physical attributes, as I said, you can improve that through fitness / nutrition / style enough to at least be passable.
Also, stop being so contradictory. Is the moral of your memeadvice "dude just vibrate at more positive higher frequencies :)))" or "dude just work out and get plastic surgery and dont eat anything but salad and water so you can become a 10/10 Chad Hemsworth ubermensch male model"?

on the one hand you're telling me "DUDE its your personality LMAO" and on the other hand you're tacitly admitting that personality doesn't matter worth a fuck and that it's all about physical aesthetics.

this is why I genuinely am considering cutting my veins open this weekend and selling my soul to a daemon for wordly/material/romantic success

>>12230092
Suit yourself.

For the record, I'm saying it's a bundle of things you have to attend to: thinking better so that you don't give off an uncomfortable vibe (not something so simplistic as The Secret), while ALSO attending to the physical (and I said you can become PASSABLE, not 'Chad Hemsworth'). But you can read that, I suspect now you're just a negativity troll; probably due to some other type of pathology. Have a nice day.

I'm not /lit but I think there's a lot of similarities between my field (geoscience) and writing in terms of male/female ratio. I'm a grad student surrounded by tons of beautiful women all day, I work with them, write papers with them, and I can't do anything with it. All this water and none to drink because I'm somehow flawed and a coward as well. Fuck I hate myself so much

>>12230104
Thanks for tacitly admitting you have no frame of reference. You've never had to suffer or struggle through an existence of being undesirable or unwanted so you just project your solipsistic just-world-hypothesis worldview onto anything you can't understand or identify with.

"For the record", I work construction 40h a week on top of going to school so I don't exactly have all the time in the world to spend preening and primping in front of the mirror like you privileged effete academic types.

>>12229901
what about any gf at all?

>>12229903
typical /lit/

>>12230057
Not anon, but I tried the positive self talk route and all it did was make me an arrogant sperg, not much better than a low self confidence sperg, worse if anything actually

>>12229901
The libido can actually be subverted by knowledge. This much was already said in the Bhagavad Gita, or "Celestial Song", in which Krishna explains how actions are reduced to ashes by knowledge. Having freed himself from his desires, liberated from subjectivity, a man no longer sees a woman's body as an erotic object--the whole allure upon which his infatuation rested has vanished without a trace. What's left is the unimpressive, pear-shaped figure which is the female form, which does not even demand admiration, let alone attraction. A man, having found himself in such a state, finds it strange to imagine abandoning his freedom in order to enter into a relationship with a total stranger, who is merely a single person among multitudes, perhaps unremarkable in every way, and for no reason at all, since the hazy inebriation of lust is only a sickening heat. Acutely following the eyes and passing expressions of others, he identifies the very subjectivity which he lately overcame, and understands that others project their desires onto him, so that others do not see him as an individual, but merely as a potential actor for the various roles that remain unfilled in their stage play. Seeing this he recoils, no longer unconsciously wheeling through the endless cycles of time, unwittingly acting out the will of the world serpent devouring itself.

>>12230142
He (most likely she) doesn't get it because anon's never lived life as a (physically) unattractive individual. They're laboring under the delusions of their simple little just-world-fallacy worldview where everyone is attractive, and if someone is unattractive, all they have to do is "just work out/just diet/just get tens of thousands of dollars of plastic surgery :)))" and they'll instantly be attractive (and, by proxy, considered to be actually human)

>>12229901
I try, but the truth is that they don't want me.

>>12229901
I find it exhausting and pointless to try to meet the standards required for a relationship. Getting into a relationship is easy and fun, maintaining one is a endless slog, and if you don't enjoy the long run, the short run is meaningless. There's just no satisfaction in it.

I thought I had a thing with a qt classics girl but I think she's too wrapped up in other things to make time for anyone at the moment.

Probably for the better. I don't need her bringing her emotional turmoil in my life right now

>>12229901
Women who read books from my experience are pretentious cunts.
Best gf I ever had loved when I read to her, but it was entirely because I have a good voice. She didn't actually read on her own or even give a shit what I was reading.

>>12230131
Dude, I'm not him, but you chose to type words that make you sound like a BPD girl who has already broken the phone she gets the clapping hands emojis. People are avoiding you because you're you and anon's advice is one of the fastest ways to stop you from being quite so... You. If you don't start working on that I think people will support the wrist cutting thing as an even quicker way to get rid of the miseryguts you currently are. Le woe is me nobody understands me only works in the qt Goth girls.

>>12229901
My wife (who doesn't like reading really at all) would be pretty upset if I got a /lit/-tier gf

>>12229901
I'm working on it

>>12230147
This is actually kind of based

>>12229901
I only date dumb bimbos because I can influence/manipulate them easily.
I don't manipulate women btw.

>>12229965
Either that or one of the Death-centred spinoffs like "The High Cost of Living."

>>12229901
Because I rarely leave the house and have crippling social anxiety.

csuse im a fuckin pseud and women know it

I never had a gf