/lit/ - Literature

>>12213555
WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS

Instead I should think in pictures like autistic people?

>>12213577
Exactly.

Ok

>>12213555
I can effortlessly think in both words and images
why would I give up either of them?

I think it says a lot that this board is so familiar with Ted "Own the Libs" Kaczynski but doesn't even seem to know John Zerzan.

>>12213624
Because language is alienating.

Bump. The world has to know.

>>12213625
Yeah, who doesn't love reading essays where every single sentence has a footnote?

>>12213625
Images are alienating

>>12213555
Is that even possible? To think without words?

>>12213577
No you should continue to ruminate on those thoughts and words, because they become you and your world eventually, and then you'll be predictable in your lack of understanding seemingly illogical truths of the world - which if not apparently useful are themselves advanced thinking tools for other inquiries into pertenent subjects like economics and politics or even political communication strategies of baiting decision makers into questions of meager importance expect as delays or exploring the experimental nature of our thinkings-outloud.

>>12213555
John lives in my town. I’ve met and interviewed him before. I’m not super deep into his views but he’s a cool guy to be around.

>>12213555
I will not.

I wish I could just stop thinking

i only think in complex thought palaces of symbols based on sexual imagery, ama

>>12214085
No

>>12213555
>Theodore J. Kaczynski, better known as the Unabomber, is a surprisingly harsh critic of the current Anarcho-Primitivist mainstream and Zerzan in particular for what he sees as a foolish and invalid projection of leftist values such as gender equality, pacifism and leisure time onto the primitive way of life. Kaczynski holds that the values of gender equality, pacifism, leisure time, etc., while still admirable, are exactly the values of techno-industrial civilization and its promised techno-utopia. Second, he holds that having such an interpretation is counter-productive to the ultimate anti-civilization/anti-tech goal as it attracts "leftist types" who are by nature uncommitted and act to dilute the movement. Kaczynski insists that the core values of freedom, autonomy, dignity, and human fulfillment must be emphasized above all others.[27]

>>12213555
I am currently picturing myself shitting on your head

Abandon time.

>>12213625
I'm all for bringing back solidarity and community but this guy is no Ted. i'm nick-naming this dude "California Ted" for differentiation.

>late 2018
>Not thinking in iconic diagrams
>Actually using vague symbolic models to think about things

>>12213624
Is thinking with pictures like imagining the scenario through your pov? Can you think complex thoughts like whether something's right or wrong with images?

>>12213555
And start thinking in smells.

I only think in words when I’m really struggling to wrap my head around something and need a sentence structure to keep everything in place

>tfw think in erotic words to fap

>>12214136
Zerzan and Jensen are both very cucked by feminism, otherwise their work is interesting.

i don't think in words when i'm masturbating. is that a good start?

>>12214085
Of course. Your thoughts are reflections of your value system and that is constructed by non verbal means

>>12214085
Can you image two squares rolling around each other? Or a plane undergoing a continuous transformation?

>>12214136
Ted's critique is pretty laughable indeed, seeing how he has never read an anthropological study in his life while John quotes like three of them every page.

The NPC meme and all the discussions about subvocalizing and the like have made me think there are far more genuinely retarded people on /lit/ than I ever suspected.

Words are images.

>>12214450
fake

>>12214159
Pic related had that shit figured out long before him

>>12214460
Shit

>>12214159
>abandon sequential time

>>12214085
Of course. You can imagine melodies and pictures, for sure?

>>12214454
Words and images both symbolize concepts so when it comes to conveying concepts they are the same.

>>12214465
Where should I start with Bergson?

>>12213555
:(

>>12214450
Hey there, Augustine

>>12214481
Pretty much chronologically, starting with Time and Free Will. You might want to read the SEP article, since he's kinda hard to understand and there's not much good secondary literature about him. Deleuze also wrote secondary lit on him, but I haven't read it. Knowing Deleuze it's probably a very heterodox reading though and contains more of his own philosophy than Bergson's.

>>12214432
Zerzan is extremely selective about his anthropology. He fails to recognize division of labour within groups and inter-group conflicts.

>>12214136
Bookchin also makes good critiques of Zerzan.

Amazing how a single study lowered this website's IQ by about 10 points

>>12214519
>Murray "The label anarchism attracts people I don't like so I'll make up my own" Bookchin
>Murray "The western working class doesn't exist because there's no more factories" Bookchin
>Murray "Support Israeli concentration camps" Bookchin

>>12214444
Checked because nobody else did

>>12213555
Start with the Greeks.

>>12213577
>I should think in pictures like autistic people?
LOL
>should I cultivate the intelligence to be able to visualize the situations that concern me?

you don't have to pick one, you can think in "words" and "pictures" simultaneously, in fact if you aren't you are literally retarded.
Real thought abstracts such concepts.
Real thought is a simultaneous awareness of your senses (your self) and an inferred model of the world around you as it pertains to your interests (virtually unlimited).

Real intelligence is competing against men with a superior internal model of the world that allows you to put more variables into play in your dealings.

Fucking media-burned leftist retard drones.

>>12213555
lolololol what a loser!

read Kaczynski's book "Technological Slavery" which perfectly sums up the utter impracticality and uselessness of people like Zerzan.

>>12214935
*bombs a bunch of random shit*

>>12215000
not random shit, criminal technophiles

Zerzan = another useless green/left bullshitter

>>12214569
Thanks, you're a good anon

>>12215024
He sure showed technology who's the boss.

>>12215152
he lived self-sufficient in the wilderness for 20+ years

zerzan is just another bullshitter

>>12213577
Think in total abstraction, without any sensory simulation.

I think in Palm D'or nominated feature length films.

>>12214444
Not a waste of metaquads