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You Could Not Have Avoided This Edition
>What drove Chun to strive for unavoidability?
>What was he looking for?
>Would you hang out with him?

Monthly Reading for December: The Dying Earth by Jack Vance

Fantasy:
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General:
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Flowchart:
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SCIENCE FICTION
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General:
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php

Previously:
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>>12179038
>>12167034
>>12156092
>>12147776
>>12138143

>> No.12214223

>>12214106
>>What drove Chun to strive for unavoidability?
He didn't attain it, he was born with it.
>>What was he looking for?
Top style.
>>Would you hang out with him?
I wouldn't have a choice.

>> No.12214262
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12214262

>waiting on male characters to do something manly in wheel of time

>> No.12214273
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12214273

>>12214262
Might I interest you in different but better trash?

>> No.12214306

>>12214273
Dumb YA poster

>> No.12214332

>>12214306
>I sink hundreds of hours into books I don't like that have zero literary merit but at least they weren't written for teenagers

>> No.12214347
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>>12214332
>wheel of time wasn't written for teenagers

>> No.12214356

sanderfag a hack

>> No.12214367

>>12213868
Gibson is a living breathing NPC meme. He had some neat ideas when he had youthful vigor, wrote some good shorts and some crap novels, gained immortality through a lucky zeitgeist break, and now spends his time angrily responding to Trump tweets.

>> No.12215013

>>12214356
abercrombie a shit

>> No.12215555
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12215555

Some slow ass threads, I thought we'd never have another one.

>> No.12215635

>>12215555
everyones busy with finals and holiday shit. im still waiting for dying earth in the mail. hopefully it gets here before the finish date

>> No.12215661

>>12214223
fpbp

>> No.12215668
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>>12214223
>i wouldnt have a choice
kek

>> No.12215715

Why is Robert jordan so obsessed with BDSM? Everything about his world is about how much he loves lesbians spanking or binding one another.

>> No.12215889

>>12215715

SF&F authors often let their fetishes get into writing. Its a great way to connect with an author!

>> No.12215951
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12215951

Are there any books that feature a genre shift at some point during? By that, I mean a complete shift from one/few to another/few.

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>>12214306
Red rising is not a YA.

>> No.12216896
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I'm 1/4 the way through pic related and really enjoying it. The book feels like Bester did a shit load of coke then started writing. I don't know why people don't recommend it with his other two well known books (stars my destination,demolished man). Maybe it turns to shit soon, but its so short I don't really care. So far I'd recommend it. I mean hey, where else do you get a book with Jesus, Ben Franklin, and a neanderthal.

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This shit is pretty fun and easy to read. What else is good from this author?

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12216948

When will it fucking end?

>> No.12216999

>>12216940
True Names is his masterpiece

>> No.12217003

>>12216940
A Deepness in the Sky is pretty good. It's vaguely connected to Fire as well.

>> No.12217043

>>12216948
But, anon, it has all that WORLD-BUILDING! XD

>> No.12217325

>>12216948
Oh no what is a slowburn. reee.

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>>12216948
Holy shit I was just about to come bitch about this. It finally started getting interesting, then immediately when back to fucking Sandyarabstan and is dragging again.

I've actually enjoyed the entire series up to this point well enough, none of the books ever really felt like they were dragging on too long, but Toll the Hounds has taken me weeks to get halfway through and I'm really struggling to finish it.

>> No.12217418

>>12215555
Post the epub somewhere or I'm not going to read it.

>> No.12217460

>>12217418
OK sweety I put it on libgen just for you <3

>> No.12217511

>>12217418
Are you a computer illiterate or what? Check the sticky, there's literally hundreds of downloads in every format imaginable.

>> No.12217539

I enjoy these slower threads more tbqh

>> No.12217541

>>12216940
>this edition is really nice and big
>they didnt do the sequel to match

why

>> No.12217544
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12217544

Is The Expanse worth getting into? I read Leviathan's Wake and it was damn good but I'm kind of turned off by the fact that it was supposed to be a trilogy that got stretched to like a bajillion books, did it stay good?

>> No.12217568

>>12217544
It stays roughly the same, as in the quality doesn't change in either direction, meaning it might get a little dry after the sixth book. But they're good enough to read. The TV show is pretty good too.

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Guys help
The Gap series is so good but every book gets more expansive and longer than the last
I think by the fifth book it'll be infinite in length, get me out of here
Seriously though I'm having a great time, thanks for recommending this to me
Even though it feels like I'm getting kicked in the urethra constantly

>> No.12217598

>>12217003
I found it to be an excruciating interminably long slog. Maybe because of the internal timeline.

>> No.12217604

>>12217418
---> >>>/t/805598

>> No.12217614

>>12217544
They lost me when it became clear the authors were using the proto-molocule as a plot device to do whatever the fuck they pleased, like the use of magic in a bad fantasy novel. Would you like human zombies in your book? monsters? magical spaceships, reactionless drives, hey the proto-molecule can do whatever I think seems cool at the moment!

>> No.12217615

>>12217598
That's because the spiders are ambush predators and the book follows the same pattern, lots of waiting then everything happens at once. I didn't really like it, especially because the cute girl got sullied, but the concept of enslaving PhDs with an autism plague is more intriguing than anything in the (much better) Fire upon the Deep. Plus it's fun to have a civilization that keeps time with the Unix epoch.

>> No.12217690

Just finished the Jumper series.
What are other novels with teleportation being used a lot?

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>>12217690

>> No.12217955

>>12215715
His mum used to belt him and he liked it, when she died he started trying to get his wife to do it, there’s a reason why she was his editor.

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>>12215715
He was a cuckold. Sanderson fucked his wife while helping her write the last books.

>> No.12218133

>>12217690
The Hyperion/Endymion books by Dan Simmons. Transition by Iain M Banks also touches a bit on that although it is more like jumping personalities in parallel worlds. Oh, and the World of Tiers series by Philip Jose Farmer. The gates are a major element of those books.

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12218172

Just finished this. Kind of a ride, the doctor is an absolute knob of a person

>> No.12218217

can we make 2019 fantasy/scifi reading list

>> No.12218222

>>12218217
With psychohistory?

>> No.12218254

>>12218217
>>12218222
kek

>> No.12218295

>>12217598
I found it no different than Fire in that respect.

>> No.12218305

>>12217604
I wonder if we should start linking this thread in the OP.

>> No.12218351

Just finished Book 3 of the Divine Dungeon series.
Fuck me sideways, what an ending. Loved it.
I was actually really sceptical at first, book 1 begins with far too much exposition on magic physics, explanations on elemental essence types and corruption, and mage tier levels, but it quickly picked up the pace.

What have you guys been reading recently?

>> No.12218400

>>12214106
Greetings from /d/, can I get some fantasy smut recommendations for reasons?

>> No.12218534

>>12218217
No

>> No.12218621

>>12218305
Yea you should. If you find a fantasy one do it too. The same questions over and over again is annoying.

>> No.12218623

>>12218217
Masters of Rome

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>>12218400

>> No.12218661

>>12218351
What pissed me off at first was how the core was unironically stupid. The "oh gee golly Mister" attitude was RUBBING ME THE WRONG WAY. I seriously considered dropping the book multiple times because of that. But I'm glad I stuck through.

I recommend the ritualist series next. Although book 2 rubbed me the wrong way too. The author seemed to have caved to his autistic patreon users, and put in a bunch of shit that was childish (but seeing from people that liked it, and hearing the other things they liked i.e ninjas and nothing personnel, I see why be put it in). Just thread carefully. I see a lot of these self published authors start out strong, then put in a bunch of utter shit in later books, either to draw a larger audience, or to fill the word count. I don't trust Krout anymore.

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>>12218400
I really need to update this chart. So many more /d/egenerate things I've read since.
>>12218642 being one.

>> No.12218682

>>12218661
Yeah, the beginning of the first book suffered a bit from
>"Hey tutorial fairy, what should I do"
>"do this"
>"ok I do this"
but it got really creative later on, and I even started to dig the more esotheric view on stats and levelling up, by opening different energy chanels and shit.
I hear there is a fourth divine dungeon book though, and a fifth planned? Kinda felt like 3 could've been the end, but idk.
And I guess I'll look into the Ritualist then. Does it use the same elemental essence system and stuff?

>>12218642
great choice. Was a surprise hit for me, kind of bought it on a whim last year and it did not disappoint. I hear he's already cleaning up book 4.

>> No.12218692

>>12218674
>>12218682
You ever think of bettering yourselves?

>> No.12218918

Interesting meta-list here (this is the intro):
https://classicsofsciencefiction.com/classics-of-science-fiction-books/
Compares 65 other lists to compile it's own 139 book list.

>> No.12218932

>>12218918
A pictorial format of the above:
https://www.worldswithoutend.com/lists_classics_of_sf.asp

>> No.12218975

>>12218682
>Does it use the same elemental essence system and stuff?
To spoil it he sealed himself off and started killing people to store their consciousness in computers. This is more a litrpg than Divine Dungeons, people here are "trapped in the game".

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12219333

>prices anywhere from £20 - £40 when £5 on kindle
>pay a monthly fee
>get points so that you can get a book for free
>used it on nine princes of amber
>finished it in a day
>1 point a month
Why the fuck does anyone use audible

>> No.12219834

>>12216603
It reads like YA.
Very simplistic character motivations, colour-coding...

>> No.12219841

>>12215013
You're entitled to your opinion, friend. But if you don't say why, we won't care.

>> No.12219850

>>12215951
Charles Stross' "Merchant Princes" series. Goes from fantasy to military (science-)fiction mid-trilogy.

>> No.12219857

>>12217412
>Toll the Hounds has taken me weeks to get halfway through
I read those books in three days each. At most.

>> No.12219868

>>12218674
Richard Morgan is good.

>> No.12219869

>>12219834
>I want to avenge my wife and save my space Irish family but holy crap being a handsome genius superman space Nazi is fun and they did more than my dirt people ever could, I wonder who I can trust
Darrow has more complexity and pathos than any womameme YA author could have given her zero-agency protags.

>> No.12219871

Looking for lowkey science fiction or fantasy stories, kind of like "Never Let Me Go" by Ishiguro.

Any suggestions?

>> No.12219884

>>12219871
To Say Nothing of the Dog is way cozy.

>> No.12220053

I'm looking for something pulpy and light, sci-fi wise. I just read the Alacrity Fitzhugh stuff by Brian Daley and I quite enjoyed it. Had a bit of grit but was pretty much an adventure written in like the 70's.

Anything ya'll could suggest?

>> No.12220072

>>12219841
Not him but abercrombie is literally cookie-cutter fantasy with a thick veneer of edgy "deconstrukshon".
It works on the same basis as GoT, so it suffers from the same exact failings. Only difference is that Abercrombie knows how to stick to his plot better and is thus more concise and -somewhat ironically- even blander.

>> No.12220095

>>12220072
no, the only difference is that abercrombie writes books and finishes them

>> No.12220166

>>12219868
If you are a full gay ass faggot, then yes. Steel Remains is good.

>> No.12220250

Could someone recommend fantasy with larger than life characters, romance subplot, and a MC that is not a huge moralfag?

>> No.12220383

>stranger in a strange land
The fuck is this legal mumbo jumbo bullshittery? Is it too early to drop 40 pages in?

>> No.12220507

>>12220383
Drop it. It’s shit.

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>>12158910
I finished it yesterday and I'm still not sure if I actually liked it. At the very least I appreciated that that there is but a bare minimum of expository world building

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Finally finished pic related.
That was some really nice sci-fi that made me really happy. Good book.
Can't wait for the sequel.

>> No.12220900

What's some chill low-stakes fantasy? Preferably something with soft magic that feels magical

>> No.12220958
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>>12219333
If you dont want a meme reply the reason i use it is because i buy the "coins" that are about 11$ each to buy they book i want. Also because i play audio books while i go about doing monotonous shit

>> No.12220970

hey /sffags/ there's a fantasy book that george lucas wrote the forward on. does anybody know the name of it? it's no star wars book.

>> No.12220979

>>12220634
Iron Dragon's Daughter was bleak and I couldn't get into the story. I read the whole thing hoping it would turn around. Someone here said the sequel was good. I'm not sure if I'll make time for it.

I've read Stations of the Tide twice tho. And he's got some good short stories.

>> No.12221051

i want a story about an emperor's son or somebody powerful in an academy
doesnt matter if scifi or fantasy

>> No.12221084

Looking for some (relatively) short fantasy novels to blitz in my spare time. Any recommendations?

>> No.12221086

>>12221084
The Squeal of Crime by Paul Teddy

>> No.12221336

>>12220900
The Innkeeper's Song

>> No.12221393

>>12220250
see
>>12218642

>> No.12221493

>>12218217

Winds of Winter

>> No.12221612
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>>12218692
>you shouldn't enjoy reading
>why don't you read real literature and better yourself

>> No.12221629

>>12220383
>>12220507
Brainlet. You always out yourselves.

>> No.12221639

>>12220970
I don't touch anything by Lucas. It will always turn out to be shit. If you didn't notice star wars was shit and the fans are autism incarnate. I liked he embraced incest in his works, but other than that it shit.

>> No.12221644

>>12221051
Do you care if it's good?
Emperor's Blades

>> No.12221653

>>12220250
Waldo Rabbit, everybody loves large chests,

>> No.12221670

>>12221493
how optimistic

>> No.12221730

>reading anything popular

>> No.12221743

you guys brought me both Blindsight and The Thing Itself and now I need another recommendation please

>> No.12221754

>>12221743
The Night Land

>> No.12221791

>>12221754
>The Night Land
Sounds excellent, thanks

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>>12221743
Philosophy fags should gtfo.

>> No.12221842

>>12221823
Do they complete the system of German idealism?

>> No.12221902

>>12221842
based and kantbotted

>> No.12222037

Why did I like A Court of Broken Knives but hate the sequel? Was I just a bigger faggot last year?

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>>12221612

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>>12222277

>> No.12222289 [DELETED] 

>>12222222

>> No.12222292

>>12222222
Really stupid argument. It does not justify the means. Just an ass pull by a talentless hack.

>> No.12222370

>>12221639
that's fair, m8. i understand. i just have this weird memory of seeing and holding this book of really trite fantasy and he had written the foreward. for some reason i'm not finding anything on it. it has quite literally vanished. like a false memory.

>> No.12222378

>>12222037
Maybe the books got better and you're just as much as if not a bigger faggot now?

>> No.12222667

>>12222378
listen up. i'm going to put down this dick long enough to tell you that that sort of attack on my personhood is unacceptable, and we do not do that sort of thing on 4channel.org. we are a community. so start acting like it.

>> No.12222712

>>12218918
Thanks for that meta-list. #4 is odd - I dont think i have ever heard childhood's end called a great classic. Never read it before. I may have to put it on my reading list.

>> No.12222723

>>12215951
Ship of fools by richard paul russo. goes from hard sci fi to horror novel. pretty good.

>> No.12222737

>>12220053
Have you read "The Flying Sorcerers" by David Gerrold and Larry Niven? Maybe the funniest sci fi books there is.

>> No.12222743

>>12220250
"Chase the Morning" by Michael Scott Rohan.

>> No.12223153

>>12221629
>this stranger, because of legal mumbo jumbo, is inheritor to the top companies in existence and the legal owner of planet Mars
It's a shit way of opening a book and setting up for a conflict.

Has he written anything of worth other than Starship Troopers? That one may be little more than a militaristic wet dream but at least it was executed decently.

>> No.12223255

>>12223153
All I heard from your post is that you are a brainlet that likes shoot-em-up books.

>> No.12223261

>>12223255
I guess it's true what they say, people only hear what they want to hear. Got any actually decent suggestions?

>> No.12223289

>>12223261
Throne of Glass.

>> No.12223300

>>12223289
>complains about brainlets
>recommends YA
Is it legitimately good or are you just shitting on your own taste?

>> No.12223306

>>12223300
Malazan Book of the Fallen.

>> No.12223309

>>12223153
>Has he written anything of worth other than Starship Troopers?
His juveniles are excellent.
>That one may be little more than a militaristic wet dream but at least it was executed decently.
It wasn't executed that well.

>> No.12223356

>>12223300
>in this general there is only me and one other person
>if anyone answers me it's that one other guy

>> No.12223371

What are some other Catholic science fiction besides Fourth Mansions, BoTNS, and A Canticle for Leibowitz?

>> No.12223409

>>12223356
Guess I can take your suggestion a bit more seriously then. I'll start reading to see what it's about at least.

>> No.12223414

>>12223371
Mistborn

>> No.12223423

>>12223409
Throne of Glass is just something that gets spammed here.
You can safely ignore.

>> No.12223428

>>12223409
The Library at Mount Char.

>> No.12223429

>>12223423
Too late, it's already on my phone. What do you suggest for when I've dropped it?

>> No.12223430

>>12223429
You could try out my favorite book, The Strange and Beautiful Sorrows of Ava Lavender.

>> No.12223431

>>12223429
Mistborn.

>> No.12223439

>>12223430
Thank you for suggesting something other than the usual, I'll put it in my queue.

>> No.12223440

>>12223414
His Wikipedia page says he's Mormon, and Mistborn is high fantasy.

>> No.12223450

>>12223429
Masters of Rome.

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>>12223450
Fuck I always forget to funpost that one.
Is that even fantasy?

>> No.12223472

>>12223371
Count to the Eschaton

>> No.12223475

>>12223429
Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell

>> No.12223658

>>12223459
Spartacus marries a Thracian >witch
Fantasy in my eyes.

>> No.12223736

I have a bunch of Audible credits left and need a new series. Don't call me a faggot for it but I'm thinking of something along the lines of ASoIaF and Harry Potter, so a no brainer with likeable characters. Been considering Lightbringer and Red Rising. No Throne of Glass.

>> No.12223738

>>12223429
>What do you suggest for when I've dropped it?
That you shitpost about it in /sffg/ until someone else gets meme'd.
It works just like sadako's curse

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>>12223658
Spartacus? What period of Roman republic does that novel covers?

>> No.12223864

>>12223793
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_Rome
>Masters of Rome is a series of historical novels by Australian author Colleen McCullough, set in ancient Rome during the last days of the old Roman Republic; it primarily chronicles the lives and careers of Gaius Marius, Lucius Cornelius Sulla, Pompeius Magnus, Gaius Julius Caesar, and the early career of Caesar Augustus. It spans from January 1, 110 BC through to January 16, 27 BC.
That was hard, retard.

>> No.12223898

>>12223736
Masters of Rome
>>12223793
Marius to Octavian

>> No.12223905

i really liked hyperion, olympos, and ursula leguin can someone recommend me works on this level

>> No.12223917

>>12223905
The Strange and Beautiful Sorrows of Ava Lavender

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>>12223864
Aggressive autism is the worst anon.

>>12223898
So it ends when shit get really interesting?

>>12223917
>Magical realism, lyrical prose, and the pain and passion of human love haunt this hypnotic generational saga.
I see another meme in the making.

>> No.12224002

>>12223905
Early Orson Scott Card like Worthing Saga and Hart's Hope

>> No.12224007

>>12223976
>Aggressive autism is the worst anon.
actually avatarfagging is the worst

>> No.12224019

>>12224007
Yeah you shouldn't do that too.

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Looks like Brandon Sanderson has a new novella out: Children of the Nameless.
A piece set in Magic the Gathering. Available for free on mtgstory.com

>> No.12224090

>>12224070
I suppose it's worth a D/L.
Thanks anon.

>> No.12224114
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Read the short story "The Eyes Have It" by PKD.

>> No.12224191

>>12223429
Wall of Text coming:
All You Zombies
The (sort of) Dark Mage
Sunset(Nightlord #1) (stop at this book)
Fimbulwinter
All Systems Red (The Murderbot Diaries #1)
Ancient Ruins (Ancient Dreams #1) (read this only)
The Big Over Easy by Jasper Fforde
Treason by Orson Scott Card
Tunnel in the Sky by Robert A. Heinlein
Lucifer's Hammer by Larry Niven
Fevre Dream by George R.R. Martin
The Man Who Fell to Earth by Walter Tevis
Legend by David Gemmell
The Broken Sword by Poul Anderson
Girl Parts by John M. Cusick
Rivers of London by Ben Aaronovitch
Good Intentions by Elliott Kay (read this one only)
Something More Than Night by Ian Tregillis
The Trysmoon Saga by Brian K. Fuller
Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell
The Library at Mount Char by Scott Hawkins
Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein
The Time Machine by H.G. Wells
Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell by Susanna Clarke
The Iron Dragon's Daughter by Michael Swanwick
The Anubis Gates by Tim Powers
Metro 2033
Out of the Dark by David Weber
Johannes Cabal the Necromancer
Johannes Cabal by Jonathan L. Howard
Hull Zero Three by Greg Bear
Rough Magick by Kenny Soward (rare book based on gnomes)

These are 3.5-4.5 stars and one 5 star. Enjoy.

>> No.12224220

>>12224114
>branderson fan is still hooked on Dick
Too much Dick isn't good for you cosmerefag.

>> No.12224223

>>12224070
do i have to know about MtG first before reading?

>> No.12224233

>>12224070
I never understood magic the gathering. I just see people shit on it whenever it's brought up. What is it about?

>> No.12224235

>>12224191
What's the 5 and 4.5? Because most of those seem like poop.

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>>12224223
>Q: Do I have to know anything about the Innistrad setting to enjoy this story?
>A: No. The story was written to be a standalone, and though it uses a MTG setting, everything you need to know about that setting is presented in the story itself. Just like you don’t need to know Roshar before picking up The Way of Kings, you don’t need to know Innistrad before picking up Children of the Nameless. (And as an aside, if you’re unfamiliar with Magic, you should at least check out some of the art books they’ve done for their settings. The creative team over at Wizards includes some of the best worldbuilders in fantasy, and their settings are incredible.)

>Q: What about the game itself? Do I need to know anything about Magic to enjoy the story?
>A: Again, no. Going into the story, I was a little worried about how I’d balance the card game mechanics with a story—but the creative team quickly put me at ease. They explained that they find stories in their worlds work better without the author trying to present game mechanics. The explanation I got was something along the lines of: Imagine that the card game is trying to represent things happening in a fantasy story—rather than the fantasy story trying to represent things happening in a card game.

>If you are a fan of Innistrad and MTG, you might be able to catch some nods I made to cards, but many of my alpha readers had never played a game of Magic before in their lives—and they loved the story. In fact, most didn’t realize this story was a tie-in piece until I explained it to them. Note that I’m not trying to say that Wizards doesn’t care about continuity. In fact, they provided a large number of lore resources to me, and sent my story through numerous continuity fact-checks. They worked with me from the get-go to make sure that I didn’t break lore or continuity, and were quick to offer suggestions of things I could change to make sure the story worked in their setting.

>The end result is a story that’s in line with their overarching lore, and doesn’t break the fundamental magic system rules of their universe. At the same time, it’s a story that’s very much a Sanderson piece.

Though I haven't read it yet personally.

>>12224233
It is a collectible card game that is a quarter century old. The players "take on" the roles of powerful wizards that can travel between different worlds, (planes, so they are called planeswalkers). They harness the magics of these worlds and the creatures and stuff on those worlds to summon them into battle as minions. So you might cast lightning bolts and summon goblin and human soldiers to fight against another player who likes to use necromancy and elder dragons for example. As there are 25 years of cards with several worlds visited every year the worldbuilding is immense. There have been books set in Mtg before, but they haven't broken any ground, as the worldbuilding is only done well in the card art and flavour text so far.

>> No.12224271

>>12224233
MTG is a pretty fun trading card game. The premise is that you're a dimension-hopping wizard called a "planeswalker" dueling other planeswalkers using spells gathered from across the multiverse. Different "blocks" (basically collections of new cards that get sold in randomized packs) take place on different planes, and so you get a nice variety of settings with different stories across them that relate to that plane's problems (flesh-metal hell taking over the world, otherworldy abominations popping up, the continuing struggles for power between the plane-spanning guilds on Ravnica, etc). The problem is that the story has sucked for a while since the company that produces MTG has decided to focus more overtly on a certain set of planeswalkers that serve as sort of main characters, and overall is focused too much on planeswalker characters in general to the point where the settings and the stories about those settings feel more like afterthoughts.
tldr; cool settings and potential fucked up by shitty recurring characters

>>12224255
They also do story articles on their site, but they're real bad a lot of the time.

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>tfw you are one of five people on /v/ who plays Eternal
>tfw not rich so I can't play MtG

>> No.12224726

>>12224235
Then read none. I don't care if you read or not.

>> No.12224742

>>12224368
I'm sure most people that play MtG use neetbuxs

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>>12214106
Can anyone rec sci fi/fantasy where a good chunk takes place in a school/academy. I liked red rising and blood song even though they were kind of YA.

Don't rec me magicians by the way. Fuck Lev Grossman, hes a pathetic reddit loser and his books are trash. I actually enjoyed parts of the first book but hes just so crringey that I almost dropped it. I read the next two for some reason and hated them both, by the end I was just reading them to see what embarrassing thing he would write next. Awful series, awful writer.

>> No.12224939

>>12224915
See >>12224191
Rivers of London had some police academy. Kimda
Rough magick (kinda)

>> No.12224945

>>12224915
Both of these are sequels, but here you are anyway:
Year of the Griffin by Diana Wynne Jones
The White Regiment by John Dalmas

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>>12224915
Gunnerkrigg Court

>> No.12225730

>>12220958
I'm about to save you a lot of money.
First, go to http://audiobookbay.nl/ and make an account (needed for getting magnet links). Once you've done that, go search whatever fucking book you want. Then click on the fucker and scroll down down for the magnet. Download the files.
Next, search for Smart AudioBook Player in the Play Store (it's by far the best app for this, I've checked). Get it. Also pay the few silly dollars that it wants for the full version (it's fucking worth it).
Next, transfer the files you got from http://audiobookbay.nl/ to your phone and find the folder using SABP.
Boom bitch, all the free audio-books you could ever want, using a player 10x better than the shit Audible player.

>> No.12225742

>>12224915
Harry Potter.

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>>12225400
sucks

>> No.12225856

>>12224915
aegis of merlin is kinda alright. the first few books take place in school.
then theres schooled in magic if you can stomach a female mc written by nuttal. its not horrible but it gets monotone after some time. the series has been going on for too long in my opinion.

>> No.12225860

>>12225730
>Smart AudioBook Player
>not using Voice
you have no one but yourself to blame.

>> No.12226091

>>12225860
why not just Foobar2000?

>> No.12226098

>>12226091
fubar mobile sucks. it sucks bad.
its nothing like the pc version.

>> No.12226100

any books that will give me the same feeling as horizon zero dawn? or something similar

>> No.12226120

>>12225400
Explain what's happening in that pic. Is that some warp drive rocket?

>> No.12226133

>>12225860
>>12226091
>not using mortplayer audiobooks.

>> No.12226446

>>12223459
>>12223793
>>12223976
More like mistresses of Rome.

>> No.12226547

>>12223429
Plague of Angels.
It's a fun book that compliments Masters of Rome.

>> No.12226657

>tfw 90 of the regular users are normies who actually go and do shit with their families at Christmas time

>> No.12226667

>Finish book 1 of Alera, it's OK and I want to where this thing with Kitai goes so:
>Am halfway through book 2 and it's boring as fuck.
>Zerg are boring as fuck villains.
>They're apparently the villains for the next 4 books.
>Author has some rando character fuck literally every girl he's met so far, author goes out of his way to talk about how he's currently to busy having sex to be in a scene whenever he's not in a scene.
>Kitai is obviously Chekov's thief but it's just filler.
>Actually ever single character arc is just filler.
>The whole fucking book is filler.
>Chapters are written like a cheap American soap, ending on a hook and then switching perspectives. Every. Single. Chapter.
There may be a romance in this series that isn't a shitty prince square-jaw/princess weak-knees set-up, but I'm not wading through trash to find it.

>> No.12226671

>>12226657
At least we actually read instead of spending all that time wallowing in self pity :3

>> No.12226681

>>12226667
Codex Alera was written on a bet.
Butcher lost a bet to someone and had to combine pokemon and the roman legions. It did pretty good for being a joke piece.

>> No.12226689

>>12226671
>chartfag and catfag are the only ones who actually read
Checks out

>> No.12226985

>tfw citizens of the UKAsian alliance are called lemon limeys

>> No.12227179

what is NGE of sci-fi literature?

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where's this from? i want to read more about the averns

>> No.12227227

>>12227179
Blindsight

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Im in the mood for some degenerate shit, and by that I mean Im in need of some good books with copious amounts of GRI, and by that I mean just the "I" part

lacking that Im just happy with just some good interpecies romance, I found this short story called "all roads lead to winter" its a nice little bittersweet story about some dude banging a cat alien chick

>> No.12227284

>>12226120
its pretty self explanatory anon. a fire elemental and a gypsie engineer are mailing scalpels via spaceship to a guy in south asia who's trying to make an antenna out of his own finger bones.

what, are you slow or something?

>> No.12227364

>>12227278
Have you read Godsfire yet?

>> No.12227472 [DELETED] 

>>12227221
Both the name of the series and the name of the book are in the photograph

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>>12223976
>So it ends when shit get really interesting?
Sulla kicking the shit out of plebs is the pinnacle of Roman history.

>> No.12227554

>>12227278
Masters of Rome.

>> No.12227570

>>12227554
redpill me on roman catgirls

>> No.12227602

>>12227570
The Romans made Carthaginian slaves mate with lions. And fed them Christians

>> No.12227697

idea check?

>a mixup results in an egyptian spice seller becoming an unwitting drug dealer
>when the truth is uncovered he becomes entangled in a mess involving a necromancer with a coat of mummified arms and a chinese princess who believes the drug is the secret alchemic ingredient to the elixir of life
[spoilers]>now transplant that story onto mars with a lunar princess, etc.[/spoilers]

>> No.12227707

>>12227697
stolen. see ya at my book release faggot

>> No.12227794

Can you recommend a high fantasy book that goes along the 'battle against an objective evil' narrative? With some psychological depth or redemption arc?

>> No.12227803

Someone should rewrite Malazan in a simplified way for brainlets such as myself.

>> No.12227960

>>12227794
Thomas Covenant

>> No.12227965

>>12227960
Dude it’s a dream better just rape someone lmao

>> No.12227969
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>>12227794
Prince of nothing

>> No.12227979

What is essential cyberpunk and what order should I read it?

>> No.12228000

>>12227965
>Dude I can't read better just post about it lmao

>> No.12228050

>>12227969
>>12227960
Thanks

>>12227979
Neuromancer. Dune is nice as well, but im not sure if it counts as cyberpunk
although imo one of the best cyberpunk stories is not from a book but from a game, the first Deus Ex. Had me on the edge of my chair the entire time

>> No.12228121

>>12228050
>not sure if Dune counts as cyberpunk
>not sure if Dune counts as cyberpunk
>not sure if Dune counts as cyberpunk
>not sure if Dune counts as cyberpunk
>not sure if Dune counts as cyberpunk

>> No.12228396

>>12215951
Please respond.
>>12222723
I've actually read that within the past few months. It was alright. I can't get scared through reading text.
>>12224114
This story is only a handful of pages and will brighten your day. ^_^

>> No.12228419

>>12227221

Looks like Lexicon Urthus: A Dictionary for the Urth Cycle

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>>12218217
I'm probably gonna read the fourth and final installment of Ada Palmer's series, which started with Too Like the Lightning.

I think it's called Perhaps the Stars?

>> No.12228533

>>12228518
>is it a girl
>is it a guy
>they will never tell
I see the author used their gender status as the plot in their book.

>> No.12228564

>>12228533
Hah, yeah she's a pretty strange creature. Fucking good book though, and the gender stuff really subverts your expectations. In fact, I think depending on if you go into it as an SJW or with a more conservative viewpoint, it'll brush off on you in different way.

Honestly the gender stuff is a side point, this series has so much more weirder stuff going on with it. The writing style along is wild.

>> No.12228604

>>12228564
Hehe, I'm sure you're a strange creature. I'm sure your book is fucking good and your gender subverts expectations. In fact, I think you're so queer it's gay from any point of view.

Honestly you'll probably make a lot of readers by shilling your shit here. Faggot.

>> No.12228628

>>12228604
Why would anyone ever shill their book here? Are you fucking dense?

>> No.12228629

>>12228564
wew lad

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It's that time of the year once again.
Post em.

I had to shrink the pic. Apparently the max 10,000x10,000

>> No.12228799

>>12228722
>all those shit books
I love it

>> No.12228811

>>12228722
I'm literally reading Tao Wong's system apocalypse series and it's so much crap, and a gay protagonist as the cherry on top. I'll finish it though, I'm almost enjoying my anger.

>> No.12228913

>>12228811
But he’s bi not gay please understand

>> No.12228936

>>12228913
That's literally worse. Can't even commit to an orientation.

>> No.12228972

>>12228811
I dropped the series. You would be a better man than me if you finished it.

>> No.12228974

>>12228936
>worse
>not missing out on dick and pussy

you may be a homo who is still sore about your ex deciding to settle with a woman

>> No.12228993

>>12228722
I'm too lazy to stitch screenshots together, unless there's some easier way.

>> No.12229020

>All the obscenity and salacious infamy spawned in the muck of the abysmal pits of Life seemed to drown her in seas of cosmic filth.

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>Friend recommends me Mistborn to read as a good entry point into Fantasy (I already read LOTR)
>Seems like a STRONG INDEPENDENT WOYMEN power-fantasy by an author most people here hate
>Is also a YA book

So it's bad right? What would you recommend

>> No.12229145

>>12229136
All I remember about it was wanting to stick my dick in Vin. Oh and metals.

>> No.12229152

>>12229136
You should never read books with a female protagonist.

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>>12229136
>What would you recommend
Throne of Glass.

>> No.12229250

>>12228722
>no masters of rome
Absolute barbarian tier.

>> No.12229393

>>12228722
Oi've still gotta few days lef, guvna

>> No.12229454

>>12228993
There is a chrome extension that does does a full page screenshot.

>> No.12229469

>>12229136
That's a very manly chin, and strong adams apple.

>> No.12229484

>>12229250
I'm not falling for your shit meme. I hate history. Also Plague of Angels is more degenerate than masters of rome.

>> No.12229712

>>12225400
GC doesn't really focus on the school aspect though. At least, it hasn't ever since coyote first showed up.

>>12224915
The Name of the Wind is unironically this. It's a college story rather than the middle/highschool stories favored by potter clones, but it's worth a read.

>> No.12229884

Just about done with Wise Man's Fear. What next?

I'm looking for something chill but well executed

>> No.12229908

>>12227960
Pretty much this. I know me and at least 2 other people here are hyped for this release next year. It's over twice as long as book 1 and knowing Donaldson's penchant for expanding and expounding universe and story I know it will be interesting.

>> No.12229922

>>12229908
Fuck off.

>> No.12229936

>>12227979
>>12216999

>>12229922
Did I hurt your feelings honey?

>> No.12229941

>>12215951
The Jerry Cornelius series
The Eternal Champion and Phoenix in Obsidian

>> No.12230028

>>12223459
Mommy of Rome

>> No.12230040

>>12224191
Based

>> No.12230138

Well guys I just finished Hyperion and it was pretty great I have to say. Hyperion 2 is also a must read, right? And 3 and 4 suck ass?

>> No.12230190

>>12229136
Dying Earth, which happens to be sffg's current book-club book

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>>12229712
Ive read name of the wind and realyl enjoyed it even though rothfuss is a fat hack and sffg hates it . I dont really understand why its so hated here when pretty much all fantasy is as masturbatory and trashy. The romance part of it is particularly bad and the sequel in general is shit but the wish fulfilment element of it is present in most fantasy,

>> No.12230571

Someone just asked for my patreon on rr.
How do I not fuck this up, how should I set it up per chapter or per month?

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to anyone who read this can you tell me how she lost it and to who

>> No.12230867

>>12230440
>I dont really understand why its so hated here when pretty much all fantasy is as masturbatory and trashy.
because not all fantasy is as masturbatory and trashy and you've got a gutter view of the entire genre. Read Worm Oroborous or Dying Earth.

>> No.12230991

>>12230745
Chewbacca
Big wookie cock

>> No.12231027

>>12228518
>>12228564
I started the first book recently and have only read a couple of pages yet, can't say I expected the reality warping kid.

>> No.12231036

>>12229136
What did you think about LotR? Because ii's quite thick and if you liked it you hardly need to read more intro fantasy. You can always read Unfinished Tales of Numenor and Middle-Earth to get some more Tolkien.

>> No.12231041

>>12229884
If you actually liked that crap your next step is probably Sanderson's entire bibliography.

>> No.12231065

>>12231036
>Because ii's quite thick
Not at all compared to true doorstoppers like Malazan or Wheel of Time or Berserk

>> No.12231078

>>12231065
I meant that the writing, not the actual size of the books.

>> No.12231086

>>12228604
based

>> No.12231091

>>12229136
The Tower of the Elephant
The Scarlet Citadel
Queen of the Black Coast
Black Colossus
Rogues in the House

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>>12228604
Fucking idiot reply, honestly. Is discussing gender such a taboo for you? If you bothered to read the book, which you won't because you're so terrified of facing any kind of politics at odds to your own, you'd realise Palmer is essentially attacking the condemnatory politics of sci-fi revolving around the elimination of gender. A major plot point is focused on how eliminating gender is bad for society

The woman's a historian, you think she doesn't have a more nuanced understand of gender than "huehuehue xe this, xe that".

I'm pretty sure I've argued this point either with you or someone of a similar viewpoint before, but just think about how you're limiting yourself by completely rejecting any novel which encompasses anything besides strictly contemporary conservative gender. It would be like neglecting to read 1984 because you're anti-authoritarian. It's a fucking book lad, the themes run deeper than the Wikipedia summery.

>>12231027
Yeah I didn't expect that either, but the books primarily about religion so I forgave it. Easily the weakest part of the first book though.

>>12231086
>>12228629
>saying nothing
wow really constructive argument boys

>> No.12231207

>>12223429
To get the screen repaired.

>> No.12231298

>>12231142
Shut up gay nerd

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>>12230867
>or Dying Earth.
>using that as an example of "good" fantasy

>> No.12231365

>>12230440
to be honest, the second part of the sequel with the dude dicking amazon girls was pretty on point in the masturbatory front
but its been so long I barely care anymore about anything else

>> No.12231373

>>12228993
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/1-click-webpage-screensho/akgpcdalpfphjmfifkmfbpdmgdmeeaeo?hl=en

>> No.12231385

>>12228722
You think people here actually read?
They just come here to meme. Why read when /tv/ and /v/ and /social media/ are more entertaining?

>> No.12231480

>>12228722
I only read 10 books for the year. Don't use good-gif-reactions-reads, so can't screen shot anything.

>> No.12231548

>>12231142
>Yeah I didn't expect that either, but the books primarily about religion so I forgave it. Easily the weakest part of the first book though
I've not read enough to decide if I like it or not yet. While it feels a little "out there" for a book I expected to be more grounded it, as you say, does fit the theme.

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is there anything like Eragon but not shit?
I like the idea of the protagonist having a dragon buddy

>> No.12231602

>>12231588
how to train your dragon.
more aimed towards kids but the books are fantastic.

>> No.12231617

>>12231588
A song of Ice and Fire
There's also Iron Dragon's Daughter, but that book felt boot-to-the-face-depressing to me.

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Ordered the pic related few days ago. What am I in for?
I am also working on my shitty little fantasy world. It has dragon riders in it. Now, is a dragon rider something that's been done 349549385 times already and I should kms?

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>author dedicates book to the CIA/men and women keeping us safe/our boys beyond the seas/the hardworking members of congress preserving our democracy.

>> No.12231734

>>12231710
they're doing you a favor, now you don't have to read the book

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>>12230745

>> No.12231748

>>12231036
Shit's a snoozefest.

>> No.12231806

>The Mote in God's Eye

Is this book any good?

>> No.12231811

>>12231142
Yikes

>> No.12231814

>>12231806
Yes

>> No.12231843

>>12223371
You may like Thomas Disch's The Priest. Mostly horror, but features body-switchin' time travel elements

>> No.12231911

>>12231655
well if you make dragon as nothing special in your book then you will be the 1st

>> No.12231975

>>12229884 There's also the book about Auri, The slow regard of silent things. It's pretty short compared to the others and a bit weird.

>> No.12232452

>>12231911
Turtledove did that

>> No.12232482

>>12231710
>author dedicates book to anyone who’s ever been oppressed or had to hide their sexual orientation.

>> No.12232632

>>12232482
Andrew Rowe is such a fucking pussy, I literally couldn't start the book after reading the dedication.

>> No.12232725

>>12232482
>>12232632
And you fags call SJWs easily offended

>> No.12232740

>>12232725
I read sci fi and fantasy for the escapistm. I have to have SJW politics shoved in in every other form of entertainment (tv, games, films, etc), so yeah, I'm offended it's infecting the last thing I enjoy.
Maybe that's the reason most of us enjoy older books instead of the modern Hugo winners.
But hey, I'm happy you enjoy eating shit, Andrew.

>> No.12232831

>>12231588
Guardians of the Flame
It's not deep, but it's actually pretty unique and very entertaining as a story.

>> No.12232844

>>12232740
>I have to have SJW politics shoved in in every other form of entertainment
Aww, poor baby

>> No.12232947

>>12228722
>having such utter shit tastes
I'm surprised there is no Sanderson there.

>> No.12232966

>>12228722
>average rating 2.7
You're not an utter pleb. But from those shit books you read your average rating should be 1.5 stars.
>a bunch of litrpg books
Wew lad. I guess we know whose been shilling that stuff now.

>> No.12232985

Just ordered Foundation - it will be my first Asimov novel. I have high hopes for it.

>> No.12233037
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>>12232725
>implying they'd make it to the dedication

>> No.12233222

>>12231806
One of the great classics, must read.

>> No.12233224

>>12231588
>the protagonist having a dragon buddy
The Temeraire series by Naomi Novik. the first four or five books are pretty good, not worth reading after. It is more fantastic historical fiction though, besides talking dragons there is no magic at all.

>> No.12233229

>>12225730
This is basically what I do, hell I just use audible keep track of stuff I've read by adding it to my wishlist. I've been using vlc on android though, its a pain in the ass because it will randomly crash once a day and finding your place again is annoying.

>> No.12233232

>>12232985
I wanted to start it a couple of years ago but the prose and the made up names were so cringe inducing and bad that I gave up after a few pages.

>> No.12233249

>>12214347
Still has zero literary merit sweetheart. You sci fi plebs are the cutest brand of trash

>> No.12233286

>>12231588
Pit Dragon Trilogy by Jane Yolen if you're interested in sci-fi as well. 3rd book fucked me up in middle school.

>> No.12233416

>>12233249
What

>> No.12233418

>>12233249
>literary merit

big laff

>> No.12233472

>>12233229
Get a goodreads account.
Use an audiobook app.
????
Profit

>> No.12233489

>>12233286
Did it try to touch your special place?

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How do you explain to your gf why you haven't read Masters of Rome yet?

>> No.12233593

>>12233569
Historical fiction is the laziest fiction

>> No.12233653

>>12233593
Good historical fiction requires a ton of research. Bad historical fiction is probably badly disguised propaganda.

>> No.12233695

>>12233489
Not him but it went from ex-slaves playing IRL pokemon with alien dragons to a nightmare troglodyte cult sacrificing dragons for telepathy.

>> No.12233709

Should I read Red Rising or Farseer first? Is Lamora any good?

>> No.12233728

>>12233709
Haven't read Red Rising. Lamora starts strong, is still decent in book two but book three was pretty bad. I didn't regret reading it but it was a lot worse than the prequels.

Realm of the Elderlings is my favorite series so I guess I'm a bit biased but the books have a pretty melancholic tone so check if you're in the mood for something like that before reading them.

>> No.12233742

>>12233709
Really disliked Farseer and leguin in general tbqhwyf. Lamora, as another anon said starts off decently and goes downhill. Red Rising was a very enjoyable read if somewhat of a guilty pleasure because it feels kind of like a YA book, although there are other aspects that really don't so I'm not sure what the author was going for.

Overall, I rec red rising the most out of those three,

>> No.12233748

>>12233593
Wrong, it's actually the most onerous, with good reward. Instead of making up shit that's based on history, like most fantasy does, historical fiction actually requires research and expertise. Masters of Rome can be used as an encyclopedia of late Republic cultural, political, societal, and military developments.

>> No.12233778

>Lyonesse
>£20 in Kindle

Not really sure why it's so expensive, is it really good?

>> No.12233825

>>12233748
Or rather, you can read an actual historical book, about actual people, that is far better researched and documented. Instead of some armchair historian writing some wish fulfillment piece that doesn't matter or affect anything because its trapped within the prism of historical facts.

>> No.12233914

>>12233742
farseer is hobb, le guin is earthsea

>> No.12233942

>>12217544

As far as I'm concerned the story concludes with book 4. Everything else is kinda redundant.

>> No.12233983

>>12216603
It absolutely is.

>> No.12234012

>>12214106
Anyone got any thoughts on the altered carbon series? Enjoyed the tv show but have been told the book is quite different both in plot and characterisation

>> No.12234026

>>12234012
Books are good. He’s even more of an asshole most of the time and sometimes it’s a bit too edgy for its own good. But it’s about the best cyberpunk blade runner-y type book you can find if that’s the genre you want

>> No.12234069

>>12231142
What is their to discuss? Gender is one of the most simplistic truths centered around human existence

>> No.12234078

New thread slave

>> No.12234188

>>12233728
>>12233742
Melancholic sounds great. I've been told Hobb is good with characters also? Shame about Lamora though, sounds pretty good.

>> No.12234218

>>12234188
I think she's really good at portraying realistic characters that are sometimes prone to making bad choices based on their life experiences. The fact that you follow Fitz from age 6 to 50something is pretty cool I think.

>> No.12234315

>>12231710
Who actually did this lmao

>> No.12234330

>>12233232
>implying there's anything you might reckon as prose in Foundation

>> No.12234673

New Thread
I was close to a pc and no one else wanted to make it
>>12234670
>>12234670
>>12234670