/lit/ - Literature

>>12148445
>became a skilled lover of women.
christ

>>12148445
Eh, its not that bad, a bit too self aware with the self deprecation but otherwise not alright, and the lover of women part is legit chummy and not as cringe as you nerds will think.

And no, t. is not Patrick, it wasnt as bad/sad is i thought itd be

>>12148967
I mean it becomes quickly obvious that he literally thinks of himself as the main character from The Name of the Wind.

>>12148445
Thanks for posting this. I'm sure I would never have read his shit anyway, but now I have legitimate shade to throw at anyone who says they like him

>>12149062
Really all you have to do is post a picture of him.

Also I bet you he actually dyes his hair gray. There's no way he's naturally graying at his age.

>>12148445
Is that a picture of him? Weird how you can tell so much by just looking at a person.

He looks like he retweets bacon memes and has a rollerderby gf with fat tattooed arms that larps as a game designer.

>>12149165

>>12149182
>the blond white man is in the front
What did they mean by this?

>>12148445
Unintentional humor is the best kind.

Bacon fried on bacon grease sandwiched between two breads made of bacon with bacon paste sauce. Bacon Burger Bacon.
Chug Bourbon, read Hemmingway, carouse with classy dames. Epic. As. Fuck.

>>12149077
I wouldn't put it past him, but some people start graying as early as their 30s

Please don't give publicity to this retard

I remember seeing a video of a convention or something where fans were asking him questions, and at one point he tells a fan he's not allowed to ask questions because he's a white male and there's been too many of them already. I wish I could find it because it perfectly exposes what a piece of shit he is. A guy that loves his books stood in line for at least a few hours just to ask him a question only to be rejected when the time came because of Pat's racism.

>>12148967
>and not as cringe as you nerds will think.
THAT is the cringiest sentence I've ever seen written, with the second being Rothfuss's. You're the posterchild for the Dunning-Kruger effect. Don't breed, I don't want my kids to have to share the world with yours. Do what a good little leftist like Rothfuss would do--crush their infant skulls in the womb with a pair of pliers and buy some cats.

>>12149766
Well boys, we have a new contender for cringiest post ever written.

>>12149766
Quality post.

>>12149747
>A guy that loves his books
That's what he deserved for having shit taste desu

>>12149775
>get rekt
>race to damage control
Cute. Now let's get back to why Pat Rothfuss is a hack,

>>12150029
Samefag detected.

>>12150061
>Serve Jews
>Lose
Go pick your teeth up out of the gutter, Pat.

>>12150101
>>>/pol/

>>12148445
BAD
ASS

>>12148478

r/ihavesex

Badass

threadly reminder

>>12151654
I mean, I did enjoy the movie. Can't help but think it only gets hated by people who can't keep up with all the references and so they try and downplay its importance instead of, you know, learning something.

>>12148445
I don't want to see this fat cunt in the front page anymore

>>12151669
Too bad. I'm going to keep posting mehim.

>>12151677
I dislike you

>>12151685
I don't think about you at all.

>>12149719

Try 16 mate.

This is horrible and if you don't think so you need to just take my word for it amd evaluate shit again. Like a parody of a neckbeard bio fuck

>>12149077
He could definitely be naturally graying at that age, but look at the pattern and the color, looks completely dyed.

>>12151654
I was not expecting that last comment. Good job, Anon, you made me laugh. Here's a cookie.

>>12149766
This is 4channel, please take this edgy attitude back to 4chan.

>>12152180
I must say I'm impressed at how quickly this 4channel meme has caught on. My adblock has had no trouble blocking the retarded ads that Hiro the Dipshit puts on this site so I don't really notice the difference, but people must be really mad at him.

>>12152297
I don't even use an ad blocker and I don't get ads on 4channel desu

>>12148445
I was going to post Dave Eggers, but OP is a goddamn masterpiece of insufferable narcissism. Eggers at least had the decency to cloak it in irony and self-deprecating humor.

>>12152324
Set him aside for a minute. Who the fuck does this Michiko Kakutani person think she is?

>>12152348
>Michiko Kakutani
Apparently she used to be the chief book critic for NYT, but yeah. That's really weird they put her name on the cover instead of just the NYT.

>>12152348
>>12152436
they used to put her name on everything for some reason, I guess because she had an exotic Japanese name

>>12149085
same shit with people who feel compelled to get tattoos or their septum pierced.

>>12151858
It makes me hate him so much, mostly on account of how shitty it looks, and he did it assuming it was cool.

>>12148445
Fuck, when will the world forget about this cringemaster
My faith in humanity died the day I tried reading his shitty debut novel

>>12148445
Is this dare I say, /our guy/ r/4channel?

>>12148445
Is he, dare I say, /ourguy/ r/4channel?

>>12148445
>K-K-Kvothe i-i-isn't a self insert

>>12150966
>r/
christ

>>12148445
>In 1993 he quit pretending he knew what he wanted to do with his life, changed his major to "undecided," and proceeded to study whatever amused him.
Must be nice to have a comfy bourgeois life where you can just fuck around for years with no financial consequences...

>>12148478
Being this pretentious actually does get you laid.

>>12152548
>tattoos
Yeah, I hate rednecks.

>The College Survival Guide
he’s not going to make it

His first published novel was the first he ever wrote? Oh, it shows Pat, it shows.

>>12151829
sorry bud

>>12154035
Got it published. More than you can say.

>>12154091
>There was a company that thought they could make money off of his book. More than you can say.
Wow.

>>12154091
>actually stooping to the zoomer youtube music video level retort of 'lmao u just mad cause they gettin money' to criticism

>>12154091
>horrible fantasy garbage gets published
wow such an achievement

>>12154103
>>12154109
>>12154114
>being this mad you can't come up with a good counterargument
Enjoy your poverty.

>>12154121
Keep crying, Pat.

>>12154143
I'll keep making money, Brandon. Too bad you can't say the same.

>>12154121
better poor than a colossal faggot desu

>>12154167
t. poorfag

The Name of the Wind was actually quite spammed here a few years ago, which made me read it.
I stopped halfway through The Wise Man's Fear though because the characters are all insufferable and the plot goes everywhere it's crazy. There's way too many subplots and you start to wonder how on earth Rothfuss is going to end this turd, I guess we'll never know because he doesn't know it himself.

>>12149077
>>12149719

My mom started graying when she was 20.

>>12154193
He's sure to end it before GRRM ends ASoIaF.

Steven Avery looking motherfucker

>>12154154
>Brandon
Why did you say that name?

>>12154193
So is the third book gonna end with the reveal that Kvothe is a total sociopath who was lying about how everyone else treated him? Cause he’s a total fucking narcissistic asshole but the narration and other characters keep treating him like he’s awesome.

>>12154291

So he's the author's self-insert? The author does look like that type of guy. Is it genre-fiction?

Idk but some author jacket cover biographies are a little too lavish

"Sex god John Doe is the fanciest author out there. If you hadn't read his latest hit Walk With Me you're obviously not a hip person. (Soon to be a academy award winning movie starring teen heartthrob Charlee Blasé. Everybody except you loves him, isn't that a bit weird? Buy it now!"

>>12154298
>muh genre fiction boogeyman when I can't even spell it correctly and put a hyphen in it for some reason
Yes it's genre fiction, fuck off back to your philosopher threaddits.

>>12154298
It’s fantasy. Harry Potter University in a generic Dungeons & Dragons world with STEM magic.

>>12154319

English isn't my first language you dolt.

>>12154420
Yeah, that explains a lot.

>>12154319
>>12154538

I never said anything negative about genre fiction, yet you became very hostile. A bit defensive there, buddy.

Also, it's funny that you implied I was a Redditor, since genre fiction is the only thing they talk about over there. /lit/ Used to be incredibly hostile to genre fiction a year or so ago.

>>12154121
If you think being published is a sign of literary merit you're not worth arguing with.

>>12154701
>literary merit
LMAO, what a reddit phrase.

>>12154739

>defending genre fiction

>>12154772
>n-no you
TOP REDDIT MATE

>>12154202
Post pics of her feet

>>12154886

Gas chamber for foot fetishists.

>>12154891
>reddit spacing

>>12153901
it's called having parents that love their child.
you may not have had this comfy upbringing yourself, but you can give it to your child, and your children to their children, and perhaps one day one of them will become a writer and you can claim partial credit for making that happen.

or you can bitch and complain about how unfair life has been towards you, and how great you could have been if only you'd had parents that loved you enough to give you a comfy upbringing.

>>12148445
>26 foreign countries
lol wtf

>>12154990
Unchallenged people are always dull. A comfy doesn't require lazily bumming around and losing all dedication so that your crowning achievement is a half-finished fantasy series with an increasingly-hostile fanbase that'll gladly consign you to the dustbin of history.

>>12154772
>n-no you
TOP YIKES MATE

>>12155082

Is this post of yours going to be deleted like your previous ones?

>>12155100
Who knows? I don't particularly care what some rogue reddit janny does.

>>12155077
so you're just mad that he hasn't finished his story at your convenience?
also, if "unchallenged people are always dull", and Patrick is an example of "unchalleged" because he had a comfy upbringing, then how does he have fans at all?

sounds to me like you're envious of his work. there there, it will be okay, you'll make it one day /snort

>>12155125
>then how does he have fans at all?

The obvious answer would be that his fans are unchallenged too. Perhaps even less challenged than he was, so that he seems comparatively interesting.

>>12155125
so you've met every single one of his fans to be able to determine that?
i didn't think so.
you're just assuming things.

i'm not even that big a fan of his, but it's so tiresome seeing all the pretentious pseuds and desperate try-hard writers take a crap on him (or any published writer, for that matter) when they have contributed NOTHING, even with their "non-comfy, difficult lives" that still hasn't managed to give them any bright ideas on what, or how, to write anything worth reading.

>>12155199
meant this >>12155227 for you.

>>12155227
>when they have contributed NOTHING, even with their "non-comfy, difficult lives"

In the context of modern, 'prosperous' societies, difficult lives are the result of capitalism and its results e.g. economic exploitation, unfair resource allocation etc.

So I would say they, their parents or grandparents have (involuntarily) contributed more, and exactly for that reason they have difficult lives.

>>12154091
You are right about Capital>Culture. Having your ideas commodified leading to further degradation of culture is something worth being upset about.

>>12153911
Nothing ‘gets you laid’. You can literally do fuckall and still get laid. And be ugly.

And you can try really really hard and never get anything. And be attractive.

>>12148445
At least the books were good
"No!"

>>12155818
I wish this wasn't too long to post on any board that isn't /lit/, I want to go into Harry Potter threads on /tv/ and post the start of the copypasta but then have it suddenly shift into Rothfuss' bio.

Based Brandon Sanderson

>>12148445
In every single one of his pics, he has that neckbeard look of disdain when judging people based on their lack of pop cultural knowledge and scifi/fantasy world lore. An unfounded sense of self-importance.

>>12156783
Smarter than you lol

>>12155125
I have no interest in anything further he might publish. Taking a look at what he's said online, purely for schadenfreude, it seems like I won't even have to abstain.

>>12156896
>schadenfreude
You realize that schadenfreude is not when YOU'RE the one suffering.

You don't have a single shred of proof of Rothfuss's "corruption." The investigation went on for half a decade and found nothing.

>>12155425
>And you can try really really hard and never get anything. And be attractive.
Factually incorrect.

>>12157346
Who is Eliot Rodger?

>>12157395
Are you seriously suggesting he's attractive?

>>12157417
He's a solid 6 or 7 physically, grew up in an upper class family, and his autism still got in the way. In any case, he's more physically attractive than lardass Pat.

>>12157395
>>12157441
Shut up incel

>>12157626
lol settle down Pat

>that facial expression
he must have so much karma on reddit

>>12157993
Let's find out.
https://www.reddit.com/user/PRothfuss

46,000. Not sure how good that is, but it seems pretty large, like my dick.

Based Brandon Sanderson

>>12158004
epic, just like his books

>>12154990
He wasn't complaining about his parentson not loving him you retard. He was bitching about how this tool spent 10 years fucking around getting his undergrad and acts like it's something everyone can do. Ironically Rothfuss complains via his shitty self-insert about how expensive college is while sucking academias dick

>>12156807
>>12155227
>>12155125
>>12154990
Hi Patrick

>>12158439
Hi unsuccessful loser

>>12148445
Imagine being this much of an utter faggot. This genuinely angers me. These people are not human.

>>12148967
No. Obviously, you're not a woman, or yoy wouldn't say that. Lol. That phrase changed his bio from cringey to irredeemable.

>>12152297
What was the purpose of the domain change? So people can access parts on 4chan where it would have been blanket-blocked?

>>12158591
It's exactly this kind of person who posts about being "profoundly gifted" on quora. Whilst the term is legitimate, I suspect that none of the people who claim it actually are it, as they are all insufferable faggots who never manage to say anything interesting. And they all assume that everyone they talk to is less intelligent than them because "statistically, it's true" - without realising that that fact is not a basis for arrogance. Fucking brainlets.

Shame because I actually want to learn about that level of intelligence.

This was almost completely irrelevant but damn, I hate narcissists.

>>12158808
Merely so Hiro can get more advertisers and make more money off this site. Advertisers are scared to advertise on 4chan because of all the porn but by splitting it into 4channel he has now created a site where they can advertise on.

>>12160057
Grim. An Hiro when?

>>12148445
political physiognomy is a real thing

>>12160075
Grim and Hiro was repurposed into The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy because Hiro Con Carne just was not a very popular show. They used the one people liked.

>>12148445
How did he become a skilled lover of women?

>>12160290
Well that's easy. The key is to go after fat chicks, they have low self esteem.

easy.

He makes me bio-sexual.

>>12149766
Cringe

>>12149784
Double cringe

>>12148445
I don't know who that is but I remember some kid I'm in a discord with posting a picture he got with him sticking his tongue out and doing the sign of the horns

>>12162670
Do you mean they took a picture together? Also, that may have just been a picture of Jack Black.

>>12148445

This masturbatory elevation of one's virginhood as a man disgusts me and I say that as a 30 year old virgin. If you're truly comfortable with your inexperience, it is nothing you call attention to because the pity it evokes from other people will tire you out. When people like Rothfuss have to highlight their state of romantic pariahood, it's a false projection of confidence, an unconvincing patina of some kind of smug anti-masculinity. If your intellect is really your source of stability, then you don't give a shit if other people know it.

>>12162928
Why are people obsessing so much over Rothfuss when the point of the thread is to find similarly cringeworthy bios and post them? Good grief.

>>12162934

I can't bring anything that beats that and OP knew what he was doing.

Also, if you want some real laughs, look up the bio pages on Pornhub.

>>12162934
Because there is no other bio cringer than Rothfuss.

>>12154193
I couldn't handle the first book. It felt like this "meh" meandering story that had stolen from Le Guin and Harry Potter and strung it all together with kind of random shit that just served to make the character seem cool.

>>12154291
I can't decide if he's meant to be an unreliable narrator or if Rothfuss just thinks he's clever to have a frame narrative of Kvothe telling the story after the fact. Based on this bio and the general vibe and structure of the book I tend to think Rothfuss just doesn't know what he's doing, so it's probably not a case of unreliable narration.

>>12162967
Did you know that there are no female characters in The Hobbit?

Isn't that CREEPY?

>>12162855
yes, it was definitely him. at a book signing or convention or something. I could probably find it again

>>12163037
I'd be interested to see it if you do.

>>12148445
I kinda like it

>>12163048
Then you'd probably enjoy his book.

>>12149182
Game Grumps? More like Gay Grumps

>>12163046
I found it but I guess his fucking bio colored my memory and it wasn't nearly as dorky as I had thought, sorry to disappoint
cropped it ofc

>>12148445
>In 1993 he quit pretending he knew what he wanted to do with his life, changed his major to "undecided," and proceeded to study whatever amused him. He also began writing a book....
>For the next seven years Pat studied anthropology, philosophy, eastern religions, history, alchemy, parapsychology, literature, and writing.
In other words he was an unemployed NEET who browsed the internet all day long

> and became a skilled lover of women.
Sure, that's why that main character in his book series is a romanticized cuck. Totally not reflective of the author.

>>12163094
Guy does seem to like looking at the camera with a bemused expression like some sort of magician.

I have The Name of the Wind in my Paperwhite, waiting to be read. From the looks of it, I put it in around the same time as Drive.

Why are British books so much comfier than American books?

Hey Pat, how come you got so buttblasted yesterday when one Q&A fan made a single lukewarm snipe about you taking forever with your book?

>>12166035
What happened? Was there a con yesterday?

>>12164737
It wasn't the best book I ever read but it was still good.
This thread seems a tad upset and pretentious

>>12166664
>a tad upset and pretentious
That could pretty much be the tagline for /lit/.

>>12166108

PAX Unplugged in Philadelphia.

For those of you who don't know, Rothfuss does DnD with the Penny Arcade guys. His character is a red-headed bard who is a constant flirt. Yeah, Kvothe is totally not an archetype of vicarious escapism.

>>12166743
I've got to hear Rothfuss roleplay flirting. The thought of it with his voice is hilarious.

ZANKOKU NA TENSHI NO YOU NI

Isn't his review of his own book on Good reads the first review or so that you see on the book's page?

>>12166743
>>12166035
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoEhnblWTuE
timestamp of the buttblasting?

>>12150966
nigger nigger nigger

>>12167229
It's not the first, but it is there.

Absolutely fucking based. Name one other author who has the balls to not only review his own book, but give it five stars.

Pat

Pat

Mat.

Good man.

He is awesome.

Brandon, please.

Thanks for that, this finally convinced me to never read any of his books.

>>12167229
>>12167253
Loads of authors on goodreads do this

>>12171061

It's pretty pathetic, though. But well, who am I to judge the published author.

>>12171065
It's just fucking Goodreads. It's not like it's some respected database of literary criticism. It's a fucking hobby site.

Yeah.

Yep.

this one's going in the collection

You now realize you share this board with someone who goes around posting cringe memes in every thread.

Yeah boy.

BLAZE IT

PRAISE IT

I'm honestly confused as to how any one who was rejected from Cambridge/Oxford/Harvard/MIT/Stanford could possibly claim to intelligent.

Like dude you're literally not even in the top 1% if you failed to get into a top 5 university.

>>12175907
>claim to intelligent.

>>12175931

>>12175948
>trying to excuse that as a typo
Lol.

>>12175952
It's called taking stimulants. They make you type fast and skip words. Suck on it dork.

>>12175907
I literally can't express how much better my life has been since I attended Oxford. I went to a state school and gradually became the stereotypical moody, withdrawn sensitive type who both despises the quality of his immediate culture and feels a weird pride for having been raised in a sort of anti-intellectual and brutal environment. I was all set to take my Russell Group humanities BA and spend my life working as an anonymous, insecure wageslave forever thankful of being offered a job and forever too insecure to pursue my creative ambitions. The chip on my shoulder had become something of a wedge, and I felt too out of place regardless of my environment, too resentful and bitter to even attempt to make it in the artistic world. Then I finally applied for Oxford and got in to study an English MA, with reassurance that should I work hard enough a career in academia or within one of Oxford's affiliated companies would be almost guaranteed. I turned up as apprehensive as usual, and the first few days were spent regretting my decision and desperately feigning a cultured personality. But then I realized that the people there were just interesting and that the snobbery and exclusivity I had anticipated was just a myth borne out of my working class upbringing. I've since graduated, having spend the year dining in grand halls with groups of interesting people, dating several girls (one of whom, a petite Russian whose family traces back to the aristocracy, is now my fiancee). I work four days a week at a publishing company and earn £38k a year. I regularly meet up with friends from my college and visit Oxford for nights out and for meetings with my professors. The Martin Eden-esque novel I have been writing for two years has been selected for publication at a major British publishing house and, honestly, I could not have imagined a few years ago how great life could be. I come on /lit/ and see how pathetic you all are and just shake my head and chuckle. If I saw you guys on the street I would of course throw you a penny or discuss Bukowski or whatever "realist" writers you enjoy, but ultimately I would be able to tell within ten seconds if you're an Oxbridge grad and would dismiss you as a potential source of good company if you are not. I never thought I'd know what it was like to be objectively better than somebody else, for the value of my existence to be superior to the value of a stranger's, but now I do and I've never been happier. People are awed by power and prestige. All I need to do is mention the university I attended (if only for a year) and they immediately begin to hunch and look at their feet because they know they are in the presence of greatness.

>>12175956
Oh so you're a druggie. Makes it easier to disregard you.

>>12175961
>drinks cup of coffee
>LE DRUGGIE BAD!
Are you 12?

>>12175966
>LE
Yikes, reddit much?

>>12149077
my friend was significantly gray in high school dude

>>12175956

What kind of faggot could refer to drinking a coffee as "taking a stimulant" and then accuse the other party of being dumb for misunderstanding them?

"I just got done gorging myself on incomplete protein chains."
"What?"
"OBVIOUSLY I WAS EATING PEANUT BUTTER YOU IGNORAMUS"

>>12176126
LMAO. Made me laugh. I'm actually on modafinil but the point still stands: you can't accuse someone of being a druggie for simply having consumed a psychoactive drug.

>>12176126
I bet you aren't even aware of the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide.

>>12175958

If life is like that for you, why are you on /lit/ at all?

>>12176568
>not instantly assuming that is a copypasta
Seriously?

>>12154291
In the first book (Name of the Wind), it looked like Kvothe was a blowhard if not sociopathic burnout who bullshitted his way to fame and then somehow blew it. Many were intrigued by the concept. The second book (Wise Man's Fear) revealed that no, Kvothefuss really is just that awesome.

Ten years later, the third book in the trilogy is unpublished. Rothfuss has blamed the mental anguish of Trump's election for this, although allegedly his editor rejected a completed manuscript.

>>12177024
>Rothfuss has blamed the mental anguish of Trump's election for this
Feel free to provide a source for this that isn't your ass.

>>12149042
>Through a series of lucky breaks, he has wound up with the best agent and editor imaginable, and the first book of his trilogy has been published under the title "The Name of the W
I would say wants to be. I don't think he thinks he is actually Kvothe.

>>12158591
>ng "profoundly gifted" on quora. Whilst the term is legitimate, I suspect that none of the people who claim it actually are it, as they are all insufferable faggots who never manage to say anything interesting. And they all assume that everyone they talk to is less intelligent than them because "statistically, it's true" - without realising that that fact is not a basis for arrogance. Fucking brainlets.
>Shame because I actually want to learn about that level of intelligence.
>This was almost completely irrelevant but damn, I hate narcissists.
He talks about all the things he's studied, but he never finished anything.

>>12177118
Finished a buffet probably.

>>12177118
What?

>>12176898

You're right anon, it's just a particularly artful piece of larping that actually got me.

>>12151654
Are they talking about Ready Player One? Because I read a sample of it and it was one of the worst things I've ever read. The author was literally just listing off a bunch of characters/mechas from old animes and cartoons he used to watch (and actually citing said animes and cartoons as he listed them). I don't normally care what other people like, but this one makes me legitimately mad because the author has zero talent and is clearly only getting noticed because nerds are excited that things they like are being printed onto paper.

>>12154035
>His first published novel was the first he ever wrote? Oh, it shows Pat, it shows.

damn man i thought name of the wind was pretty good. what fantasy are you into?

>>12180432
You shouldn't be reading fantasy after the age of 25.

is there anything more pathetic than a neckbeard trying so hard to be well liked by everyone?

>>12180818
your face jk you're a handsome lad just a shame about the haircut is all

>>12180832

>>12180474
And you shouldn't be posting on 4chan under the age of 18, but here you are.

>>12180031
I've seen that sample because it gets posted all the time and it is terrible and I have no intention of reading the book, but unlike you I'm not stupid enough to assume that's a representative sample of the entire novel. A smart person would read a chapter or two of the novel itself instead of reading a single page and then passing judgment on it.

>>12180818
professional youtubers, which is basically the same thing

>>12181128
Most of them are scrawny dudes with no facial hair though, except for Boogie who eats as if he's making up for all of them.

My man.

He fucking ROCKS.

>>12148445

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFI30pcv4sM

Reminder that this is his primary view of almost all literature. For all the bullshit claims someone like McCarthy gets, compare him to acting like this.

>>12182455
Smarter than most of /lit/.

>>12182489
I disagree. Young people wanting to put in the effort to read all great works of literature is a much better effort made than to side with such an opposite shoddy opinion of literature rejecting it as wholly bad for reasons that aren't true.

>>12182502
And why are they not true? This should be good.

>>12182455
cringe and cope overload

dude is clearly insecure about what he writes

>>12182455

I'm saying this as someone who thinks the Name of the Wind is overrated, that Wise whatever is absolute garbage, and that Rothfuss himself is a huge weenie: I agree with him in this video. I mean, the sentiment that 85% of literature is shit is more generous than a /lit/ aggregate of that number would be, especially regarding modern fiction. And there are amazing works of fantasy. The Silmarillion is a masterpiece, as is the Once and Future Thing.

Now, Rothfuss is also in that 85%. But that video, on its own, is not objectionable to me.

>>12182455
>>12183107

literary fiction was never a 'genre' until actual 'genres' came about.

it's an insecure attempt by manchildren to categorise fiction that is actually worth something beyond mindless entertainment as just another genre like fantasy or sci-fi

dont listen to this fat good-for-nothing

>>12183149
Sounds like you're the insecure one that your favorite books are suddenly being threatened by books you don't like.

>>12182455
Well played, senpai Rothfuss. I absolutely agree with your stance on this reoccurring topic. To have such an encumberment laid upon you by an instructor of "creative writing" is a peculiar lapse of abstraction on the instructors part. Creative writing, by its very nature, should be about more than simply developing an "introspective, in-depth character study of interesting, complex, and developed characters". Creative writing should push boundaries. It should test limits and broaden imaginations.
It should be about the art of constructing rich paragraphs wherein each syllable has been meticulously considered and poured over. Dismissing Patricks work for her reading requirement because it's "genre fantasy" is ludicrous as well as extraordinary nearsighted. Why? Because everything your looking for is right there on the pages. The plot is layered, with equal parts devoted to furthering the narrative as well as telling the story of the inner characters who drive the narrative. Underpinning the characters and the plot itself are questions that relate to the human condition along with political and social themes as well which add tremendous merit to Patricks literary works.

Our obsessive need to attach labels to everything is exhausting. Mr. Rothfuss, your work is extremely multifaceted. There is absolutely a tremendous amount of educational, enlightening, and entertaining value in your writing. You embody what it means to "write creatively". Regardless which genre a writer deems themselves or is currently writing in, there's a plethora of rich literature out there you've authored for us all to be inspired by and learn from.

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>>12183350
At least he's dead so we never have to hear from him again.

>>12177024
>although allegedly his editor rejected a completed manuscript.
Hahaha, really?

Why would they suddenly care after not bothering to cut out all the pointless fluff in the first two?

>>12180432
Moorcock, Peake... You know, things that try not to make sociopaths seem awesome.

>>12183216
>threatened

dime-a-dozen fantasy novels are no threat to anything of value

>>12178174
ROTHFUSS ETERNALLY, UNEQUIVOCALLY, INFINITELY, UNDENIABLY, UNDUBITABLY BTFO

>>12183842
Sounding pretty insecure there.

>>12183917
Cope

>>12183697
What do you think of Gene Wolfe?

>>12183922
>using black people memes because you have no argument

>>12183953
cope is an incel meme

>6 days later this thread is still going

>>12183965
This fucking retard just announced sage.

*smacks bat in hand* What are we gonna do about that, boys?

>>12182455
>not every fantasy book is just wizards and shit
>every piece of literary fiction is staring out a window being angsty

This guy is so far up his own ass I'm in awe.

Hm...

>>12164739
Wright's bio on his webpage is actually modest, it's only when he starts talking about religion that he becomes incomprehensible.

>>12151668
>, you know,
Don't post here again.