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because we want to procreate. if you arent procreating, you will want to procreate, hence, you will be impatient because you are not procreating

>>12134508
so what, literally anything that's not fucking makes us impatient?
don't you think that's a bit of an exaggeration?

>>12134508
Howdy Freud

>>12134399
Man looks ahead to his death. Death frames all his actions. Even when he is not consciously thinking about death, it is reflected in his action, because he has only ever learned to act in a way that a dying creature does.

>>12134913
>act in a way that a dying creature does
but all creatures are mortal yet none are impatient
a cat is not impatient, nor are dogs, they are in absolutely no rush to do anything as long as their basic needs are fulfilled

furthermore, by being impatient and in a rush, you would, in a way, hurry that much faster towards death

so still, why are humans impatient?

>>12135852
You answered it yourself. If creatures are as you say they are then it must be that humans are a type of creature with some fundamental difference, possibly cognitive surplus, that fuels impatience. What makes humans different? That would be a good starting point anon

>>12135852
>act in a way that a dying creature does
I should have been more precise: A creature which knows that it's dying. Cats and dogs don't look ahead to their death, death doesn't frame their action.

animals are impatient, though
get a dog, nigga, you'll understand it

>>12135880
there's a ton of shit that makes us different, but for example there's plenty of intelligent animals like parrots and so on
making some huge list of our differences won't get us anywhere fast

>>12135892
see below

>>12135894
I've had a dog and they only "really want" food and such, or to throw their toy around, so I guess that sort of counts as impatient
great, dogs can also be impatient apparently

so then it's not just intelligent creatures that can get impatient
maybe creatures are impatient because they simply want something really bad, right?

but humans are supposedly smarter than that and we could control some of our feelings and assess whether we will actually get the thing we want and then just figure out a better way to wait/get it

so what still triggers this uncontrollable "want" of something?

>>12135922
>being smarter than desire
the violent break between "reason" and "emotion" is fucking stupid

>>12135922
>won't get us anywhere fast
So you too are impatient? Why do you need to get there fast rather than slow (or not at all)?

>>12135922
I don't know if you can really say dogs are impatient the same way humans are.

Like, if your dog sees you walking to the door, he's impatient for you to take him for a walk, but that impatience is triggered by an external stimuli, and it seems less introspective than human impatience.

I do think the death hypothesis has credibility. It reminds me of a song by MGMT:

"I don't wanna die!
Wishing I'd done something
More than what's required
To last until the sunset"

I feel like most people can relate to that, feeling like you're wasting your life and like you're not doing enough

>>12135960
yes I am impatient sometimes as well
>Why do you need to get there fast rather than slow (or not at all)?
m8 that's literally the point of this thread, I've no fucking clue

>>12136005
>that impatience is triggered by an external stimuli
so then there's different types of impatience? don't you still behave the same in either case?
there's loads of people getting impatient for their food to arrive when they're hungry at a restaurant

it's not like you're waiting for your colleague to hand you some report or whatever that you really need and you get impatient because you start thinking about your impending death in the mean-time right?

>>12136086
I meant more like the kind of impatience that makes you do anything at all.

If we imagine a situation where a person is treated like a dog, and they're given food whenever they're hungry, all the sleep they could want, and maybe even partners when they're horny (let's say this is a really cared after dog), I think regardless of all of this, the person would still be impatient and want to try and do "something" else, and would quickly become bored and depressed of this monotonous hedonistic life. However, dogs don't seem to mind this arrangement one bit.

>>12134399
Humans are wired to seek the next dopamine rush. If whatever you're doing right now is delaying this, then impatience is born. To counter this, people need to understand change the priority in which they get the dopamine rush. Instead of seeking minute to minute rush, they seek change to day to day or even year to year and so on.

Each individual follows their own rules of living, the short sighted follows the minute to minute pleasure seeking. The long term thinkers seek year to year or more basis of happiness.

>>12136140
but then you're talking about boredom and curiosity, rather than impatience
boredom and/or depression often have the reverse effect of impatience, they make you sink even lower into the lack of activity, just look at most anons in this place

impatience is when you're not getting what you want I suppose, or it's taking longer than you anticipated or you're willing to wait for 'it'

>>12136148
this is probably the closest we'll get to an answer in this thread desu

I guess it's also that we misinterpret (if that's the word) what will make us feel better, short term rewards are always easier to gauge and I've read that this is also a leading cause of procrastination: a lot of people are shit at truly appreciating the long-term rewards of their actions

I guess understanding these differences, between a quick rush and long-term satisfaction is a good sign of maturity, and being able to control those (e)motions
somewhere in the back of my mind my thoughts were circling around this idea for a while but I could never put it into words properly
thanks for your thoughts, fren

great, I'm starting almost every sentence with "I guess"