/lit/ - Literature

>>12125422
first for book of the new sun

>>12125471
how's that autism working for you?

I have read zero works based on Native American folklore, but I would be happy to look into it if someone has recs.

>>12125482
just glad i finally got it first

>>12125422
>tfw reverend insanity has 1800+ chapters
>just made it to 615 today

>>12125489
Does such a thing exist.

does anyone else want to get facesat by soulcatcher

About one week to deadline, if you want to participate and have not started yet it's time to pull your thumb out of your arse now!

Been lurking this general for a few days, so far it seems the must reads are

>Gormenghast
>Hobbit
>BotNS
>Black Company
>Dying Earth

Help a newfag flesh out their list plz :v)

>>12125906
You need more modern classics anon.

>>12125926
Those covers look like shit.

Ursula Le Guin wrote a neat story based on native myths. The main character is friends with Coyote. Can’t remember the name of the story I just came across it reading her complete short stories. She is an amazing writer btw.

>>12125906
You should probably read LotR if you have not.

>>12125926
Why don’t y’all move this faggy out

>>12125798
I want to sit on her lap.

>>12125906
Chronicles of Amber

>>12125906
The Hobbit's pretty good. Black Company seemed kind of erratic and juvenile to me...it's hard to explain. Like a mix between good fantasy and that YA series where that kid travels around questing for 7 gemstones to save the kingdom.

For fantasy and horror really standalone novels are better in my opinion.

>>12126080
What are some good one off fantasy novels?

>>12126112
Most anything by Guy Gavriel Kay.

>God Tier
George MacDonald, Lord Dunsany, Mervyn Peake

>High Tier
Ursula K. Le Guin, T.H. White, Gene Wolfe, J.R.R. Tolkien, William Morris

>Good Tier
Jack Vance, Stephen R. Donaldson, Peter S. Beagle, C.S. Lewis, Michael Moorcock, E.R. Eddison, John Crowley, Roger Zelazny

>Poor Tier
Robert E. Howard, George R.R. Martin, Steven Erikson, Glen Cook, Tad Williams, David Eddings

>Shit Tier
Patrick Rothfuss, David Farland, Joe Abercrombie, Scott Lynch, Robert Jordan

>Abysmal Tier
R.A. Salvatore, Robin Hobb, Brandon Sanderson, Terry Brooks, Terry Goodkind

>>12125471
based

>>12126112
The Blue World by Jack Vance
Well, a lot of stuff by Jack Vance
Stuff by Poul Anderson
Anything by Fredric Brown (more short story territory but still)
The original Earthsea book
The Once and Future King
Anything by Heinlein
Lest Darkness Fall
That's off the top of my head, I don't have my bookshelves in front of me. I've read too many books. The first books or auxiliary books of some series work well standalone too. The first novel of Salvatore's series about the guy finding a magic crimson cape and meeting a midget, first novel of Dune, Red Mars.

>And then the four digit IQ ultra-predator with superhuman strength, speed and reflexes TURNED HER BACK on the guy with an antagonistic alien superweapon in his brain when he was right next to a box of sharp surgical equipment

Thank you Dr. Peter Watts, that ending was very satisfying.

>>12126136
Now i aint the smartest pea in the shed, but putting robin hobb down that low just aint right

>>12126136
>Ursula Le Shit above Vance and Howard and Howard in Poor Tier
lol fuck off.

>>12126136
Move Ursula down to poor and add Terry Pratchett to good.
Overall a pretty decent ranking there fren.

Is this any good?

>>12125906
Lord of the Rings and Silmarillion are both better than The Hobbit, my man.

>>12125906
Those are all great, would also recommend:
>Blindsight/Echopraxia
>Star Maker
>Rendezvous with Rama
>Books 1-3 of The Dark Tower series by Stephen King (the rest of the books hit a giant fucking wall of rancid shit)

>>12125798
Thats funny. I was reading a book called a plague of angels, and this female angel just sat on the face of a guy Angel when I read your post.

>>12125906
If you like shit and trash books, you can read those too.

>>12126145
Why hello there.

>>12126136
>>Abysmal Tier
>Brandon Sanderson
Of course the Sanderson shit poster is a dinosaur.
I'm fed up of seeing you spam "Sanderson a hack" every thread.

>>12126229
Terry is a shif author. As are all authors named Terry.

>>12126392
>>12126422
>t. zoomer

>>12126273
What is his goal? To reach immortal god who destroys planets with a glance?

>>12126430
So I guess you're a boomer because you like old shit books that have aged poorly?

>>12126438
>that have aged poorly?
That's where you're wrong kiddo
You just have shit taste, it's okay, it happens

>>12126422
>ctrl+f "Sanderson a hack"
>1 result
>it's your post
Really makes one think.

>>12126430
But I was born 1988. A zoomer is from 1995.

>>12126442
But when I used find your post was the first one to show up.
Really makes you think.

>>12126441

Can someone suggest me a short, self-contained sci-fi space opera book that is well written?

>>12126607
Murderbot Diaries, the adventures of a self aware droid that recently hacked itself to gain free will. It's actually a series of 4 novellas but put together it's about the length of one book.

>>12126422
Sanderfag a hack

I claim this general in the name of historical fiction.
Hail Caesar.

>>12126639
I've seen it recommended at one point, but is SPQR any good?

>>12126624
>4 novellas
>Priced 8€ each
That's pretty disgusting

>>12126607
Space Viking

>>12126624
I'm on the third one
fun premise but disappointing execution
I'll finish them but I expected more character development

>>12126080
>For fantasy and horror really standalone novels are better in my opinion.

Also, Kane books. You look at the covers and think "what a Conan rip-off" but it's way more on the horror side. Then again, fantasy and horror mashups are kinda rare in their own right.

>>12126607
Not exactly, but The Stars My Destination.

>>12126607
The Icarus Hunt.

>>12126607
Citizen of the Galaxy

>>12126639
Technically, all history is fiction

>>12126900
Even firsthand personal accounts?

>>12125422
>>12125489
>>12125790
The DreamQuest Trilogy,it's a sequel to Elric of Melnibone and The Eternal Champion Series.

>>12126136
>when your tier list is also roughly in chronological order
fuck off dinofaggot

>>12126112
King of Elfland's Daughter
The Broken Sword (GRI Approved)
Three Hearts Three Lions
The Worm Ouroboros
The Well of the Unicorn
The Well at the World's End
The Dragon Waiting

>>12126900
You’ll be fiction if you reply to me again.

>>12125422
>Have you read any books that are based on Native American folklore? Tell us about your experience
Okla Hannali by R.A. Lafferty. It's got folky supernatural elements, but it's no fantasy novel. I didn't like it that much. It sheds light on a forgotten episode of american history, but I didn't find much of value in it beyond that. I was more impressed by Lafferty's knowledge of native american history than by the novel itself, which is crazy, given that the guy could speak ten languages and was an expert on theology and Roman history, all while working as an electrical engineer who wrote science fiction on the side.

Is this any good?

>>12127171
The first book is decent but it's a bit meh after that. It's certainly not as bad as sffg would have you believe but it's nowhere as good as the sjws think and the awards it has won suggest it is either.

>>12127171
someone should rewrite those and remove all the minorities and sexual deviancy

Anything notable come out in the 2nd half of this year?

>>12127277
>sexual deviancy
Is this a bad thing?

testing
>>>/pol/

>>12127342
/lit/ is still accessible on the 4chan domain. it will link in that case. on 4channel it redirects to 4chan.

how generic is this?

>a retelling of The Little Mermaid in the Lovecraft Mythos
>the Arial stand-in is a deep one who wants to study the land but winds up in an affair with one Obed Marsh

>>12126669
Never read it. Masters of Rome is the goat historical fiction.

anyone has more like this?
pretty much modern world meets fantasy world.

>>12126435
The same as any wuxia book. To become god.

But as of right now its, become strong enough to stop his home valley from being destroyed.

What causes you to immediately drop a book? For me it's any kind of cuckshit.

>>12127524
Looks like normal RPG or "game world" fare.

>>12127324
It is if it's not my kind of deviancy.

>>12127533
I can't think of a single book I've read with legitimate "cuckshit" in it at most it's usually a shitty love triangle. Maybe get better taste in books.

>>12127534
dont really want a litrpg at this time. just something that fits the setting was describing. ive read cast under an alien sun and that was pretty great in my opinion. the book i posted is a bit on the dry side though. the author spends lots of time explaining things and goes into detail because his other novel series is a space engineer series where stuff like basic repair of lamps and pipes takes two pages on average. its not a bad thing though. sometimes i can appreciate someone going into detail about what is happening.

>>12127540
Uh oh. 4channel advertisers arent going to like this....

>>12127545
The Sword of Truth series has two scenes in particular that are straight up pseudo NTR. One where the female lead has her senses linked to another girl and this girl purposely has some guy fuck her hard and makes the protagonist watch. And another instance where the female lead believes she's having sex with the protagonist's half brother and enjoys it only for it to turn out that it was the protagonist all along.

>>12125906
You're getting majorly baited.

>>12127540
I like your brand of deviancy. Mm love those 15-19 year old girls

Our Friends from Frolix 8 is a pretty fucking WILD ride, boys. How does the Dick do it every single time?

>>12127524
Please tell me that's not a real cover.

>>12127524
GATE Manga or Light Novels

>>12127540
>bean pole with breast implants

>>12127624
Care to explain?

>>12127666
>cosqueer

>>12128085
>>12127666
>Sanderson fan also likes Dick
Who knew?

Is Mortal Engines any good? Always weary of "Young Adult" but the ads for the movie look neat

>>12127563
I think jannies are having their hands full with /v and /tv at the moment. S you might guess the change did not go smoothly over there.

>>12127631
She's 20+.

>>12127750
Those are ackshually real. She's some well known redditor.

>>12128114
Sure got him

Do you guys do anything while listening to audiobooks? I personally can't multitask at all, and if I'm not multitasking I'm thinking I might as well just read the book...

>>12128302
usually play games while i do. its really not hard. you get used to it eventually. ususally i play some roguelikes or strategy games or some rpgs. its also great while grinding in mmos.
typically i just play xcom or cataclysmdda or warframe.

Finished BOTNS - reread or move onto Urth?

>>12128382
Wait a couple of months, reread and either move onto Urth or straight into Short/Long.

>>12128157
>mixed grip
>not even 80lbs

>>12128302
>>12128312
>sffg listens to audio books
>while playing video games
Suddenly all the people complaining about long, involved series makes sense.

>>12127533
shitty prose -- trying to hard to be poetic or epic

>>12125422
Ceremony by Leslie Marmon Silko. This was a pretty good book about the hero fixing his fucked up self by seeing a shaman and going on a vision quest.

Eye of Cat - Zelazny. This has been on my to-read list for years but I haven't been able to get into it.

>>12128302
Wash dishes, wash clothes, cook, clean, do yard work, lay down on my back, exercise, etc.

>>12128302
Yes, I keep them on like a radio. I only pay close attention to good books.

Holy fucking shit. Shit fuck. I just finished Death's End, the last book of the Remembrance of Earth's Past trilogy. Is there other sci-fi that goes into hyper-hyper-hyper-hyper-hyper-civilization stage? Just how fucking high is Cixin Liu's IQ? That ending sequence was one of the craziest ideas I ever encountered, I almost had a heart attack, jesus fucking christ.

This setting would make the sickest 4x ever.

Something of a fantasy noob...just read LotR and really enjoyed it. Where should I go from here?

>>12128302
I listen to audiobooks only if I'm doing braindead shit like running or such. You DO actually have to pay attention to the audio or you're doing the equivalent of skimming a book, and that point why bother? I guess people just accept it and their half-assery.

>>12129160
Wherever you want to

>>12129160
You've reached the peak so go ahead and stop there.

>>12129160
The Silmarillion

>>12125906
id say hobbit/lord of the rings go together.
black company can be switched for lyonesse or something by guy gavriel kay. like tigana or lions of al rassan.
>>12127787
he's baiting you with that baitpost ignore him. these are good pics

>>12129101
>Just how fucking high is Cixin Liu's IQ?
Around 80?

>>12125906
>on sffg
>decides to make list
>only lists fantasy
does no one read scifi here. Go and read 3 body problem.

>>12125422
>Have you read any books that are based on Native American folklore?
The Haunted Mesa by Louis L'Amour comes to mind, it's an interesting combination of genres (Western, Science Fiction with a little Horror and Mystery thrown in). It has some weird scenes but I'd still recommend it.


From the Inside Flap:

>The Navajo called them the Anasazi: an enigmatic race of southwestern cliff dwellers. For centuries, the sudden disappearance of this proud and noble people has baffled historians. Summoned to a dark desert plateau by a desperate letter form an old friend, renowned investigator Mike Raglan is drawn into a world of mystery, violence, and explosive revelation. Crossing the border beyond the laws of man and nature, he will learn the astonishing legacy of the Anasazi -- but not without a price. Set in the contemporary Southwest, "The Haunted Mesa draws on Louis L'Amour's extensive knowledge of Indian lore and mysticism. In this extraordinary book L'Amour tells a tale of epic adventure that takes his readers across the most extraordinary frontier they have ever encountered.

Just started rereading the first Black Company book, and I forgot just how comfy it was. Just a bunch of mercenary bros fighting and pillaging their way across the countryside. I like the newer books, but the first is just comfy.

Can you guys recommend anything with that same sort of feel? I also picked up King’s of the Wyld on a whim, so I’m hoping that’s not terrible.

>>12125926
>have a very good friend who’s an author
>her first book is about to come out
>publisher already picked up her second
>last time we got together she said I should read the throne of glass series
This worries me. Especially since I’m going to have to read her book and it’s YA.

At least she seemed interested when I recommended she read BoTNS and Black Company.

>>12126136
>Jack Vance not in high tier
>REH that low

the fuck

Is Biting the Sun as good as the Flat Earth series by Tanith Lee?

>>12128302
I binge audiobooks while I work, and my work is driving long distances
I blast through books pretty quickly

Looking for a sci-fi novel with a good romantic sub plot. No fan-ficesque erotica shit though. /lit/ got any good recommendations.

>>12129557
https://store.steampowered.com/app/857450/ISLAND/

>>12129576

>>12129593
I was serious. It's a good science fiction story.

>>12129427
You need to dick some good taste in her anon. Don't puss out. Just close your eyes and think of Sarah.

>>12129557
The Vorkosigan series. Romance plays a big part in some of the stories, while in others it doesn't, it's very natural and feels like the characters have actual relationships that develop and change over time.

>>12129598
You were serious?!
Let me laugh even harder!

>>12129604
Have you read it?

>>12129419
Warlord Chronicles is about comfy Cornish bros campaigning against Saxons in the ruins of Roman Britain.

>>12126607

>>12129609
Of course not. It can not compare in quality to such classic (from the same developer) as Loca Love: My Cute Roommate.
ISLAND really lacks cure anime gurls.

>>12129557
I'll second the Vorkosigan rec. It's one of the better space operas. There are romantic sub plots involving the protagonist in almost all the books albeit they are very minor/inconsequential in some. Later on in the series two books are full blown romances when the protagonist finally meets "the one" and those are pretty decent as far as romance books can be.

>>12129599
This.

>>12125926
Good taste fellow anon, have you read her other classics too?

>>12126607

House of Suns

>>12129796
Just because you shill her here doesn't mean she will fuck you anon. She's probably sucking some other dudes cock as we speak right now.

>>12129933
And it’s not her husband’s.

>>12129355
Chart is kind of outdated now. I should update it to V3, but I'm too lazy.
A lot would be removed, and a few amazon self published would be added.
Read so many books (hundreds) since that chart was made, really have to put in the motivation.

>>12129419
>I also picked up King’s of the Wyld on a whim,
It's shit. I dropped it, but maybe you have shit tastes, so you will enjoy it.

>>12129624
He asked for well written, not books repeating phrases over and over.

>>12130055
>Jim Butcher
>Joe Abercrombie
>Brent Weeks
That's some shitty taste you've got there lad

>>12130077
well, you'd have to be forgiving to read fantasy in general, it's a pretty awful genre

>>12130077
Let's see your tastes.

I think this whole 4channel thing is blowing up in Hiroshijew's face. There's more weird shit on 4chin than ever before and that's after the jannies were put on overtime and and their hot pockets doubled.

>>12130304
They gotta be better than yours.

>>12129419
I like the first book because while it ends with an open ending, it's also very self-contained and you could stop there.

What should I read, Hobb or Lynch?

>>12130434
The first book Lies of Locke Lamora is decent, don't bother reading the other books by Lynch.

As for Hobb, Liveship Traders is great, skip the Farseer trilogy.

If you want to pick one, read Hobb for great characters, read Lynch if you want to read a heist fantasy.

>>12130447
>a book about an assassin who doesn't assassinate people

>>12130447
Why should I skip the Farseer trilogy?

>>12130434
Does the roo identity the teddy bear as his mother?

>>12130472
I wouldn't say it's trash but it's just not as good as Livership Traders. The second half of the series is extremely depressing which makes a lot of people drop Hobb. >>12130455
The names of the books are also extremely misleading as they were chosen by the publisher and not the author. There's very little "assassining" going on for books that have Assassin in the title. The protagonist is a dumbass glorified herbalist who blunders his way all across the continent doing dumb shit.

Imo Liveship series is her best work and you can go back to Farseer if you really like her writing. There are minor spoilers in Liveship but they won't affect your enjoyment of the series at all even if you go back and you'll have a better appreciation for the story.

>>12130519
>The second half of the series is extremely depressing which makes a lot of people drop Hobb.
Well, now you made me want to read it. See you in a few days, anon.

I just bought this because I found out there's mermaid sex in it

How shit is it?

why don't you abandon your shitty fantasy and read some cool spy thrillers?

>>12130732
Because that's a way more limited and boring genre. You've read one you've read them all. I have no desire to read something about spies more than once in my entire life, and that once has already been fulfilled.

>>12130641
>An alien from an alternate reality recruits five people on an exciting mission to save the Earth from a meteor strike. The alien's advanced technology allows the intrepid humans to breathe underwater as they embark on a wondrous journey through the ocean.

This sounds so bad it turns out... bad.
Also is that guy on a bicycle?

>>12130748
t. ignorant retard who read one spy novel and declares himself an expert

>>12130748
>Because that's a way more limited and boring genre.
Don't be a fantasy fanboy.

>>12130732
>>12130765
Don't be a dumbass.

>>12130767
shut up idiot

>>12130764
>Also is that guy on a bicycle?
Yes it starts with these researchers cycling through the ocean bottom thanks to this weird technology.
I am sincerely afraid I'm losing brain cells while reading this

>>12130769
Spies are supposed to keep their cool anon.

>>12130775
What manner of horrible impulse forces you to read that shit?

>>12130794
>What manner of horrible impulse forces you to read that shit?
I have a mermaid fetish

>>12130806
Lack of self-control would do that to you.

You wouldn’t lack self control if you were a spie
You’d be dead

>>12130836
>>12130794
>main character is shy and stutters when talking to women
make the pain go away

>>12129101
Count to a Trillion
Diaspora
Xeelee

>>12125798
by who?

Where can I ask for horror recommendations?

>>12130963
Right here, nigga.

>>12130963
>>>/x/

>>12130970
So what would you recommend?

>>12130985
Night Winds by Karl Edward Wagner.

>>12130985
the king in yellow.

>>12131001
>>12131006
Thanks I'll check it out.

The only fantasy I've read that had native american folklore elements was the dresden files, but I think he's mostly making up his own shit there and just using it as flavor.

>>12130892
Alas you can blame no one but yourself.

>>12131047
Do Injuns even have any interesting folklore?

>>12131057
>those manly cheekbones
I wonder how they tuck when cosplaying.

>>12130323
impressive webm

>>12125422
>>Have you read any books that are based on Native American folklore? Tell us about your experience
Based fully on? No. There were some that had major characters/ elements from native lore.
Jane Yellowrock
Iron Druid Chronicles
There are a bunch of others, but I would have to browse my library to recall.

>>12130963

Blindsight

Hull Zero Three

Ship of Fools

The Admiral by Danker

>>12131130
Thanks

I thought Children of Time was it. I should've guessed he wouldn't let his perfect spidery creations go to waste. Not after he went to so much trouble in his book to save them. Might as well read it when it comes out, it's not as if the book was all bad, just the ending.

>>12131047
Testament of Tall Eagle
Son of Tall Eagle

This is what kino looks like.

>>12131975
Oh no, that warhammster guy is back.

This is also what kino looks like.

>>12132011
Oh no... he's also a disgusting weeb.

The poster above me is a libtard.

Daniel Black 4 Next Saturday.
Get your kindles ready.

>>12132085
No thank you.

>>12132044
Too passive-aggressive.

>>12132085
sss3 when
Tamer King of Dinosaurs 6 when

Newfag here, and holy shit, this fucking sucks

https://www.goodreads.com/series/69598-the-quiet-war
anyone here read this? how is it? the rating is quite low on goodreads

>>12132153
Sss3 has been out for like three weeks

>>12130764
>Piers Anthony
His humor and writing are about 8th grade level.

>>12132379
Congratulations. You don't have shit taste.

>>12129962
Probably her own

>>12132559
Oh, cool

>>12132153
Tamer 4 was bad even by Tamer standards. Does 5 rally?

>>12132411
>if something is rated low on goodreads that means it's good

>>12132584
Tamer one was bad. Why the fuck did you continue to four?

>>12132488
no place to download it for free?
>>12132584
Tamer 5 is mostly the same as 4 but I enjoy the concept anyway

>>12132595
>no place to download it for free?
its on mam but only for VIP users.

>>12132651
fug
I hope it gets leaked someday

>>12132654
not likely. mam is full of commies and hurr piracy is bad hypocrites.

>>12132661
typical private tracker hypocrisy alright

>>12132595
you know what the funny thing about the whole MSE thing is?
hes not allowed back on amazon because because of copyright issues not because of anything he did.

>mse gets kicked off
>told to get a publisher
>gets a publisher to upload books again
>amazon bans new publisher stating the publisher doesnt have the rights to MSE books
>MSE informs amazon that this publisher indeed has the rights to them
>amazon goes radiosilent

i wish i was joking. pic related
http://litrpgpodcast.com/news/2018/7/21/michael-scott-earle-suspended-from-amazon

>>12132682
That's why he was rebanned not banned in the first place.

>>12125422
I need more like this can anyone help an anon out?

>>12132682
MSE is an asshole but I love his pulpy shit

>>12132781
How is he an asshole?

>>12132791
He tried to copyright covers with the protagonist holding a weapon, as if he invented the concept. What the fuck was he thinking? (apart for trying to get rich fast)

>>12132800
The response to that was pretty funny

>>12132817
>New York Times Bestselling Author
Is it really that easy to get such title?

>>12132893
Yes it is, you just have to be popular
Ready Player One was Nº 1 on Amazon and TNYT for months (and it's an atrocious book)

>>12132800
Could people have made fake complaints to Amazon in retaliation against that move?

>>12132906
Sure, maybe somebody other than him hired a click-farm to set him up. Still an asshole though.

>>12132559
I still have a soft spot for the Xanth books though, they were my gateway to fantasy and I love puns.

>>12132661
>>12132651
So many flavors to choose from and you pick extra salty.

>>12132661
>>12132665
I was going to download when I went home next week and up it for you, but you guys are ungrateful pieces of shit. Get fucked.

>>12132763
Enjoy.

>>12133057
We're not sucking your cock, so fuck off.

>church is the bad guys

What else makes you drop a book like a stone

>>12133151
why does it make you drop a book?

>>12133151
I'm like 5 pages into the new sanderson and it's literally TTGL. The madman finally went full anime.

has this been done before?

>Parody/Deconstruction of "School for X" stories that spoofs college movies like animal house as well as the problems with the american education system

>>12133110

>>12133191
>finally
sanderson has been anime since the moment he picked up a pen.

>>12133151
You know the mods used to ban you religious bible thumpers and move you to /his/. They really got too laxed recently.

>>12129643
A Civil Campaign and Captain Vorpatril's Alliance are also great examples of comedic scifi.

>>12132682
Last I heard the "publisher" was just him operating under a different name instead of setting up a PO BOX shell company so that's why they banned him again.

>>12133350
>Last I heard the "publisher" was just him operating under a different name instead of setting up a PO BOX shell company so that's why they banned him again.
that was just an assumption. he did get a publisher. someone posted a link to the website a few threads ago but i cant be assed to go through the archive. its a small publisher that pics up mostly indie romance novel authors. you know the kind aimed towards women.

>>12133205
>Parody
its shit.

>>12133151
Female author who isn't named Leigh Brackett, C.L. Moore, or Tanith Lee.

I regret ever picking up a Sarah J. Cumlord Maas book. I'm still angry

>>12133490
>No mention of Hobb or Bujold
>Check out Tanith Lee
>She primarily writes YA and Romance
please stop having opinions.

>>12133511
>fell for the fataas meme
Did you genuinely think there was a chance those books would be anything but awful? I mean, the covers are not exactly misleading.

>>12133524
Why is cucking a central theme in all of her books? A court of Trash and Fanfiction pissed me off beyond all reason. How does this shit get published?

>>12133476
fine, deconstruction

>>12133518
Begone, incel.

>>12133527
its easy when you dont have an editor

>>12133581
Kek at no editor, but at least she told the truth about her. Watching them interact, or lackthereof, is hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woTu-vfo8RU&feature=youtu.be

>>12133595
poor susan

>>12126112
First Dune novel is pretty great, also things like Brave New World or Man in the High Castle

>>12130641
I don't remember any sex, but that's typical for me I guess.
The mermaid's don't show up till near the end though. It's fairly forgettable.

>>12132661
>implying those overlap
Commies don't give a shit about piracy
t. commie

Just how much do the Blade Runner movies take from Do androids dream of electric sheep?
I know this is most likely a retarded question but I rather enjoyed the Blade Runner movies and I was wondering if the book would have a similar tone/atmosphere.

>>12133823
They're actually really different. Give the book a shot, though, it's good.

>>12133823
IMO both Blade Runner films focus more on the characters whereas DADOES is more of a social satire.

>>12133829
>>12133837
Mite b cool, I'll check out the book too then.
Thanks for the input lads.

>>12133823
DADOES:
- Deckard is married
- Lots about "Mercerism", a philosophy/religion that emphasizes empathy with animals and other humans
- Androids have no empathy with animals, humans or each other
- Androids are evil and therefore deserve to die
- Phrase "Blade Runner" does not appear
- Word "replicant" does not appear

Blade Runner:
- Deckard is divorced
- Only references to empathy with animals are some of the questions on the Voight-Kampff sessions on Leon and Rachel
- Replicants are plenty empathetic, to other replicants, humans, and other animals (e.g. Roy's dove)
- Replicants are basically slaves and therefore sympathetic characters
- Phrase "Blade Runner" lifted from Burroughs
- Word "replicant" invented by screenwriter relief pitcher (David Peoples)

>>12133859
Oh, but I forgot to talk about the similarities:
- Androids (replicants) come to earth, led by Roy Bat[t]y
- Deckard has to kill them all
- Characters similar to Pris and J. F. Sebastian appear
So yeah.

>>12133859
>>12133866
Well, the book is fairly cheap and I mostly read Fantasy, but I do like stories involving androids and transhumanism so I might as well check it out. Once again, thanks for the input m8

>>12133859
You'll notice that most of the changes to the move made Deckard less "human" and the replicants more so.

(The movie is superior to the book, which I'm not sure I'd even put in Dick's top 10).

>>12133619
why?

Did you fall for the Amber meme /sffg/?
Did you like it?

>>12132763
No. You really can't get worse written books.

>>12134082
Of course not, as a principle I never read any dino books recommended on sffg.

>>12134136
>dino
Where do you draw the line?

>>12132559
>His humor and writing are about 8th grade level.
Dear God this is the worst book I've read

What was /sffg/'s reaction Sanderson finishing the Wheel of Time?

>>12134153
Late 80's is about as far as I'll go. Not that there were no good books prior to that but I just don't trust /sffg/'s judgement on them.

>>12134193
fucking piece of shit hack ruined Mat.

The books did give me closure though, it was RJ's story after all and he wrote a lot of the key parts but overall the execution by Sanderson was shit.

>>12134204
some people have told me they like those books more than jordan's

>>12134220
I guarantee those people started with Cosmere before moving to WoT and think Mistborn is one of the greatest books ever written so you can safely dismiss their opinion.

>>12133110

Does Cugel still have that alien inside of him in Cugel's Saga? Or did the other wizard remove it at the end of The Eyes of the Overworld? It has been a while since I read Eyes and have just commenced Saga for the first time.

>names his main villain 'Odium'

>>12134616
more like valium lmao

>>12132937
Same. I loved A Spell for Chameleon.

>>12134228
But Jordan is a shit writer that packs NOTHING as much as possible into his books.

>>12133253
Alright, I finished it. It really is full anime, and even has some other memey tropes in.
But it works for the most part. The madman is insanely prolific.

>>12134422
Can't foxes climb trees?

"Reality Dysfunction" by Peter F. Hamilton - 1/3 in, the list of characters is already longer than my arm. Holy shit this is way worse than Game of Thrones.

think I'm gonna drop three body problem, that shit puts me to sleep. the prose is boring and you can really tell it was translated from an asian language. I think the story is actually about to get going but I can't find it in me to give a fuck about any of the characters so far
I hope not all sci fi is this boring

>>12130055
Sry dude but everything Trudi Canavan is shittier. Emperors blades is garbage as well. Otherwise it's pretty solid.

Finally finished the absolute piece of shit that is Mer-Cycle by Piers Anthony. I never imagined that a book could be so fucking painful to read. Every single thing about it was absolute cancer.

>>12134958
>A list with Mark Lawrence, Joe Abercrombie, Sanderhack, Michael J Sullivan, Peter V. Brett and Brent Weeks
>Pretty solid he says
A solid 50% of that list is utter shit and I'm only talking about authors I've read. Might very well be more than that.

>>12134204
>ruined Mat
Jordan did that, you fucking virgin.

>>12134958
>list with Wolfe
>solid
Anon I...

>>12134952
>people calling it the 3 meme problem for years
>still picks it up
You only have yourself to blame.

>>12135066
I've seen a bunch of praise for it too but I have no idea where it's coming from and who would find this tripe interesting

>>12134446
He got rid of it

>>12134968
It wasn't good. It wasn't even mediocre, but you haven't been reading much if your imagination is that limited.
At least the cover is fun.

>>12134197
With taste like yours you shouldn't trust /sffg/'s judgment on anything.

>>12135131
It took me a while to realize it's called mer-cycle because they're on bicycles.

I started reading recently, this is definitely my first stinker

>>12126136
>Le Guin not in God tier

>>12130055
This sucks so much dick I don't know what to say

>>12135137
Ah, my condolences then. It does get better, truly.

>>12126145
>Anything by Heinlein
he wrote science fiction and most of it is awful

I want to read something with a really good plot. None of that character-driven/worldbuilding shit where nothing happens (though good characters are certainly welcome).

Suggestions?

>>12134446
I'm pretty sure he got rid of it at the end of Eyes.

>>12126136
Move Ursula up to god tier

>>12135491
>>12135122
Thank you.

>>12134952
>>12135085
The prose is certainly not its strongest point but the story and ideas are fantastic imo

>>12135311
what books have you liked?

just watched alien covenant. any books like this?

>>12135874
Throne of Glass. Around the same level of quality I reckon.

>>12135864
Throne of Glass

>>12135311
> character-driven/worldbuilding shit

What?

Generally the worldbuilding shit novels have little real character focus.

>>12135904

>>12135997
I know, I want neither.

>>12135999
They're both shallow slapped-together messes.
Nice trips by the way.

>>12136006
michael scott earle

>>12125422
Do /x/ creepypastas count?

Glad to see others have followed my advice.

It truly is a great a series.

>>12136183
I'm starting to believe you actually like that series.

Would /sffg/ fuck a consult skin spy?

Time for a new thread fellas

>>12135085
>I have no idea where it's coming from and who would find this tripe interesting
From Chinese posters. The author is Chinese, and you know they support their own.

>>12135136

>>12136760
The one with the fake vagina.

>>12136234
If it was the first modern YA series he read I wouldn't blame him, they're actually a fun read the first time before you read more and see that it's nothing but the same tropes ad nauseum. Shit's legit worse than anime for repetitiveness

>>12126273
Yes it’s fun

why arent you listening to this?
are you too casual?

>>12134952

>>12130748
please rec some unironically. I loved night soldiers and ive read a few others. Very comfy genre but i struggle to find good ones. Lecarre is good but his prose can be a bit dry for me.

>>12137191
Minecraft is the most shit thing ever. You have to be osd autistic to want everything as a square.

>>12137191
When's the Fortnite book coming?

>>12137270

On a scale of Clean Bathroom to Two Girls One Cup how shitty is this idea?

>The little mermaid but set in the lovecraft mythos

>>12137296

>>12137277
The Day of the Jackal by Frederick Forsyth
Eric Ambler
Graham Greene
Restless by William Boyd
The Riddle of the Sands by Erskine Childers
Robert Harris

Do the marrows of the bones really make blood

>>12137322
>look ma' I'm posting it again

>>12137356
Yes... A quick google would have told you that
>>>/an/
>>>/sci/

>>12137368
I posted the idea once a week ago. Is that really such a huge deal that you need to get autistic about it?

why do I imagine every fantasy fan having a comically small penis?

>>12137378
Anon gets you mixed up with all the other aspiring writers.
Anon sees no reason to devote any more resources to keeping track of your kind.

>>12133191
Skyward, yeah?

>>12137391
Yes.

>>12137400
Ordered.

I did it. I finished it. I didn't like it much.

>>12137441
there is something really off about Ishiguro, I suppose it is because he is a Jap always writing about British settings and characters but he doesn't quite capture what Britain is really like in spirit

>>12137322

>>12137441
>reading the buried meme even after my years long smear campaign
I hope Axl and dementia princess tuck you in tonight.

>>12134616
Thats the name of the shard he absorbed that's now replaced his personality and usurped his will.

is there any setting where antimagic works like antimatter and explodes when it touches magic?

what are ursulas best works

>>12137752
The Dispossessed

>>12137752
Unless you like postmodern and nihilistic feminist fantasy/sci-fi then she doesn't have any.

>>12137752
lathe

>>12137752
Wizard of Earthsea
Dispossessed

>>12136183
How's that autism working for you?

Just for you special special people

>>12138143
>>12138143
>>12138143
>>12138143

>>12137491
Yeah. The mist got me. Doomed to repeat mistakes of others in the past such as reading this book. Now I need to satisfy my need for revenge by inflicting suffering on those who memed me thusly.

Have you all read Atlas Shrugged?

>>12132011
iv actually read that, personally enjoyed it. Its a medieval economics mystery. Real slow but if that interests you go ahead.