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Use this thread to discuss the intersections of gender and class and how they affect literature. I would like for responses to focus on genders that are not part of the binary.

>> No.12103261

It's sad that this is what some people look for when they read. Same type of person that prefers to read Milk and Honey over The Brothers Karamazov or The Sound and the Fury

>> No.12103274

>>12103239
>I would like for responses to focus on genders that are not part of the binary

I think you're looking for reddit

>> No.12103278

>>12103239
Intersectionality is artificial complexity trying to connect disparate elements so they adhere to ideology

>> No.12103284

>inb4 200 posts
Why does every thread that has to do with feminism, intersectionality or leftism gets so much attention on /lit/?

>> No.12103294

>>12103239
>Use this thread to discuss the intersections of gender and class and how they affect literature.
They don't.

>I would like for responses to focus on genders that are not part of the binary.
I would like baiters to fucking kill themselves.

>> No.12103335

>>12103261
>People want to learn about thing I don't care about >:(

OP, I remember hearing an example of a white guy who'd spent his whole life writing about the law and justice without ever really mentioning the disproportionate incarceration of minorities. Can't for the life of me remember his name. Anyway, I guess the way it usually manifests is just having massive blind spots from time to time.

>> No.12103342

>>12103274
>>12103294
>>12103261
aww poor babies

>> No.12103364

>>12103239
Publishers make publishing decisions based on what they believe will sell.

These decisions led them for decades to (incorrectly) believe the best way to make money was to publish traditional and often formulaic stories targeting their different audiences - spaceman adventures for young men, romance novels for middle aged white women, etc.

These stories were written by people in privileged positions in society and helped to reinforce the status quo and maintain injustice. This takes many forms - stories which are openly racist, stories which ignore race, either depicting a white world devoid of diversity or having a "can't we all just get along" attitude, and stories which depict white people anguished by the horrible treatment of minorities swooping in to protect their weak brothers and sisters in "white savior" fantasies.

It is only recently that publishers have realized that there is a hunger for more broad and realistic perspectives from people of different races and genders, and that people want to read fantasies featuring more diverse and unified casts cooperating an facing hardship together, and have tailored their publishing to meet those markets while continuing to publish works which meet more traditional markets.

This new era of "diversity publishing" does not actually serve the interests of diversity or alter the real world conditions of oppressed groups, and is in fact a more subversive way of maintaining the status quo, generating hope for change and social cohesion which remains elusive precisely because it requires economic conditions which are not favorable to the elites who make economic decisions, including publishers.

This is why (you'll notice) class is almost completely ignored in this modern era of publishing. Rare are stories about heroic union leaders maintaining social cohesion in their union which is fraught with racial tension, or stories about minority group mobilization in pursuit of their self interest with support from white allies. Instead, we are given more diverse individualistic fantasies which call on readers to fantasize about achieving success against obstacles through individual struggle, a fantasy which allows liberalism to keep individuals struggling in isolation from one another with a belief that this is sufficient to elevate themselves and their fellow human beings.

Class focused intersectional feminism and social democracy is the true redpill

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>>12103364
>Class focused intersectional feminism and social democracy is the true redpill

you haven't posted tits yet to be saying such a thing

>> No.12103399

>>12103342
funny, i think the same of you

>> No.12103407

>>12103239
niggers don't read, and women only read airport-trash

dead white men are the best

>> No.12103460

>>12103399
me = BTFO

>> No.12103546

>>12103239
>>12103364
>>12103391
I would also like to hear a discussing of intersectionality that includes class. Preferably one that properly weights class.
Mostly intersectionalism seems to be petite bourgeois playing zero-sum games with each other.

>> No.12103571

>>12103335
Because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime

>> No.12103581

popular pseudoscience

phrenology was once well respected

>> No.12103609

>>12103364
Any social body that would stand any chance at disrupting the established social order would require the formation of hierarchies and the attainment of capital to manage those hierarchies and would quickly devolve into a different flavor of fascism that uses the power of feelings to motivate people to install it. The only hope now is to barter for spaces within the traditional framework that will remain after capitalism has finished fucking over any tradition simple enough to remain comprehensible and, thereby, destructible.