/lit/ - Literature

>>12102937
Official /sffg/ fatwa
Death to all those who insult Sanderson

>just finished my current book
>have almost two weeks to read monthly book
>weather is still comfy autumn
Feels good man, have you started reading yet?

ive had enough of political fantasy and heroic fantasy. where's the scientific fantasy?

Any fantasy with a Byzantine influence? Already read Sailing to Sarantium, it was good

>>12103021
Broken Earth trilogy. Give it a try.

>>12102977
just found it online for free. i like it so far

>>12103021
Brandon Sanderson has got a magic system for you.

>look for some /u/ fantasy
>tranny and fag shit everywhere

Anyone read this book? I love how it spans centuries and the protagonists are basically not even human anymore.

I'm reading The Simulacra and some of Kongrosian's dialogue is some of the best I've seen yet by PKD. I'm enjoying the book immensely by now, of course. I'm hoping I encounter another mindfuck story like TIme Out of Joint, though.
I need new manga to read too but wew that is much more difficult to find.

>>12103320
I read one of the associated short stories, and then a good chunk of that book but I dropped it because it took too long for anything to happen. I did like the overall premise to the story's universe though.

>>12103247
>fags, trannies, and sjw shit.
>author looks like this
That’s a huge nope from me bucko

>>12103021
Mistborn has allomancy

>>12103366
>it took too long for anything to happen
Yeah it has a few problems with pacing. But the scope is massive and I grew attached to the characters.

What are some good pirate novels?

>>12103045
Cold Iron
Drags a bit around the first quarter but its pretty comfy. Gives a nice taste of byzantine degeneracy

>>12103449
>miles cameron
How hard does the main character get abused by his gf and why does his mother not love him this time?

>>12103470
Not that poster but I didn't like Red Knight and did like this one

>>12103021

There's Perdido Street Station wherein the main character is a scientist who's just trying to innovate technology for a client.

>>12103481
Cameron writes historical fiction too, a common theme in all his work is abusive gfs and cold uncaring mothers.

>>12103409
Inda's good, series falls off a bit after the first sequel, very benevolent though
Livership Traders has a pirate protagonist and he's anything but nice lol
Outside of that maybe try The Scar or On Stranger Tides.

Nautical fantasy is my favourite genre/setting and it's very hard to find new stuff in there, last thing I read was Daughter of No Nation which is worldhopping nautical fantasy but it mainly manifests itself as a courtly drama so that's no good.

>>12103021
science fantasy is anything in scifi that isn't trying to be genuinely, plausibly speculative lol

>>12103470
Neither of those things happen in this book. It was a nice change of pace.

>>12102937
What’s a book like the culture series full of lovable ships but without all the disgusting space communism?

i've read up until book 3 and this is the best scifi series i've read in a while
the author does not insert his political views, the plots are great, pacing is great, characters are likeable, i can't complain anything about this series

also you won't find anything degenerate like this here >>12103376

>>12102328
Lady

Anyone here read Beren and Luthien?
How is it?

>>12103663
Then you're either a Empire sympathiser or a fool. Either way, you're no friend of mine

>>12103608
>Something which really stuck out about Cold Iron was the variety of roles which women played. It is a very common and very valid criticism of older farmboy fantasy novels that women characters are often relegated to love interests, courtesans, or the local innkeeper’s wife. Actually, there are characters who fit those descriptions in this book, but the point is that they aren’t confined to them. Women can just as easily be badass swordswomen, super-powerful mages, or intelligent generals and academics.
Dropped

>>12103659
this author seems like a decent person compared to the other modern day authors, i'll read his books

>>12103021
Science fantasy doesn't mean what you probably think it means. It refers to stuff like Star Wars, which has the trappings of scifi but the substance of a fantasy series. To really be true scifi it needs a component of speculation, a "what if" at the core of it driving the story. If all the emphasis in the story is on "world building" or adventure, and not exploring a central idea or concept in an alternate or future setting, then it's probably more of a science fantasy.

>>12103689
all the women are love interests and courtesans. Literally every female character in the book either fucks or comes close to fucking the mc.

>>12103678
The Lady did nothing wrong.

>>12103311
actual lesbians aren't like your animes

>>12103704
Sure thing Miles, if that's even your real name.

>>12102937
>What's your favorite fantasy or science fiction romance?
Tigana

>>12103976
Based

>>12103525
Is there anything with female leads or good villains?

>>12104036
Liveship is 60% female leads iirc, and the pirate pov is a great antagonist,

Other than that the sequel to darker shade of magic has a pirate mc, Wolfe has a book called Pirate Freedom, I've seen Where Loyalties Lie reccd before and Wyvern by AA Attanasio is Tarzan to Pirates.

I haven't read it but WLL looks like the best bet for what you want

>>12104065
Thanks!

Should I read Mistborn or the way of kings first?

>>12104111
You should fuck off is what you should do.

>>12103678
You're only a true Empire sympathizer if you support the Dominator.

>>12104125
Rude

>>12103021
>where's the scientific fantasy?
Start with the moon landing and follow all the way to the supposed AIDS "virus."

>>12104111
Mistborn, because it's more exciting

Way of Kings takes a while to really get going so it helps to have some confidence in the author going in

>>12104164
Thanks man, I know Sanderson is a meme here but I rather form my own opinion.

>>12104170
Not them but Mistborn works pretty good as a standalone too, Stormlight hinges so much on the next book every time that I've given up on reading until it's finished

>>12104111
Don't give money to that fat faggot

>>12104235
>implying anyone here buys books

>>12104235
>buying books
Yeah nah, that's why I bought a kindle and mobilism exists

>>12104170
Good for you. I don't visit this board often but it's usually a bad idea to take 4chan's opinions to heart without doing some of your own exploration first.

>>12102937
>favorite romance
Garion and Ce'Nedra because fiesty dryad redhead will be fantastic in the sack

>runner up
Taran and Eilonwy because true love

>I don't care if you hate YA
nope

>>12104270
>Eilonwy
Source? Sounds familiar

>>12104126
>tfw no immortal bara sorcerer imprisoned under a tree to be my daddy

>>12104467
The Chronicles of Prydain. I reread the first two recently and they were still great.

>>12104553

Lloyd Alexander also wrote a fantasy novel set in Indian mythology, pretty weird and interesting, with some hardcore stuff for what I thought was a children's book.

Hello, /lit/
I don't come here much, but I I'm looking for some sci fi book suggestions. Recently re-read The Forever War, and I'm kinda looking for things like that. Also read Roadside Picnic because I'm a STALKER fan, and thought it was pretty decent too. Plan on reading Dogs of War, by Adrian Tchaikovsky if I can find a copy around here. Any suggestions?
I listen to shit at work so Audiobooks work too.

yall ever read any greg egan?

>>12104614
Just "Schilds Ladder."

I want to read more but I'm worried I'm not smart enough. I may read them slowly with a browser open so I can at least get a feel for some of the math.

That aside, I did understand SL pretty well, of course not the headier stuff i.e. the abstract geometry and whatnot.

>>12104605
A Fire Upon The Deep
Starship Troopers if you haven't already
Invincible by Stanislaw Lem

Are they any good fantasy books based on african myths and legends? preferably central/south african stuff?

>>12104649
Rad. I'll check out The Invincible first. Haven't read Starship Troopers, but I know a bit about the book through friends family, and never got around to it...

Can anyone rec some good, modern fairy tale books?

>>12104656
no

>>12104656
Kirikou and the Sorceress, but that's a movie

>>12103976
I've read most of this book when I was a kid like 16-17 years ago, and the only thing I remember was that I found it troubling and dark. Must revisit to see what bothered me.

>>12103659
I wanna read this guy but his twitter is pedestrian as fuck.

>>12104656
i haven't read it but Who Fears Death by Nnedi Okorafor is highly rated
i think it's post apocalyptic sci fi rather than fantasy though

What did you guys think of "The Eschaton Sequence" series?
I actually thought the series ended at book four because of how well it wrapped things up back in 2015 and didn't find the last two books until this year.

How is this series?
I played the games and they were pretty alright so I want to think the books are at least decent.

>>12104585
I've only read 2 of his non-Prydain books and been meaning to read more. I'll put Iron Ring on top of my list.

>>12104849
his twitter is still better than most author

>>12104911
Some people I trust told me the first book at least is very good but I couldn't stand the translated prose, it was quite grating, so I dropped it after a bit.

Currently reading Red Moon
Why is Kim Stanley Robinson such a comfy writer?
>sweet-ass hard sci-fi in realistic settings
>anti-capitalist themes

>>12105044
>anti-capitalist themes
FUCKING COMMIE GET OF MY GENERAL
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

just finished pic related, what did i think?

>>12104605
>Plan on reading Dogs of War, by Adrian Tchaikovsky if I can find a copy around here.
I haven't read Dogs of War yet but I thought Tchaikovsky's Children of Time was pretty good.

>>12105094
>what did i think?
your filename gave it away

>>12105109
you're goddamn right it did
this is easily the worst "professional" work I've read

>>12105094
Going by the nature of your retarded questions and the name of the pic I'd say you probably loved it.

>>12105044
Don't even get me started. I haven't read anything since marathoning 2312 and Aurora. I hate that man and his meandering garbage. Aurora had so much promise! It's not fair!

I'm glad you like him, though.

>>12103045
Byzantium by Stephen Lawhead, but it may be straight historical fiction. Also, the author is Christian in a way that will bother some people.

>>12104111
Mistborn because the series has an ending, as does each of the books.

>>12103976
>>12104013
Tigana isn't a romance, the fuck are you guys on about?
More importantly, it's one cringy shitpile of a book that 16 year olds think is deep.

>Make sure to update your script blockers and whitelist the new domain.

kek

>>12103659
Got an epub/mobi?

>>12105313
yeah

What do we think of Little, Big by John Crowley?

I hate wheel of time but I can’t stop reading it

>>12102910
>>12103298
Seems like no one really likes Riddle Master even though it's her most popular? The summary for Alphabet of Thorns sounds cool so I'll try that I guess.

>>12105094
what is it?

>>12105373
>Alphabet of Thorns
Wait shit, I can't find this on either MAM or mobilism. Unless someone here can hook me up I guess I'll do Forgotten Beasts instead.

Give me some historical fantasy.

>>12105422
Latro in the Mist.

Just finished the Red Rising series, it was comfy as fuck. It was a little soft on the tech side but I really enjoyed the world building and politics. It felt more like fantasy with class struggles than sci-fi desu.
A lot of authors who write in single pov struggle hard when they switch to multi pov but I felt the author handled it well even though one of the povs was very boring, the others made up for it.

>>12105422
Still can't decide between Masters of Rome and Wheel of Time lads.

>>12104549
>mfw they never found out his true name because he hid his tracks too well

>>12105422
Read SPQR. It's basically detective stories, but the Roman setting is really well realized and themes beyond whodunit are explored.

What's better - Lyonesse trilogy or Dying Earth?

>>12105520
Depends on what you want. I'd say Lyonesse.

>>12105520
Lyonesse

>>12105520
Dying Earth, Cugel's a much more interesting character than the arthurian fuccbois

>implying elf girls aren't dreaming of that big dwarf cock

Who will play them in the inevitable netflix adaptation?

Is this good or am I being memed?
Also, how do the later books hold up, is it a read one book and drop kind of series or worth finishing?

>>12105565
>>12105567
based hivemind

>>12105567
The first two books were written in one go and are great. The other two were written years later for the shekels and retcon the ending for the sake of tedious garbage.

>>12102937
Romance is always boring unnecessary shit.
Go ahead and call me a pleb, deep inside you all know I'm right.

>>12105618
Doubt many on this general would disagree with you, OP is a pleb. What kind of an idiot makes a romance thread for /sffg/, baka...

>>12104656
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaro

>>12105044
>>sweet-ass hard sci-fi in realistic settings
>>anti-capitalist themes
Sounds like cringe-incarnate.

>>12105565
Blacks and trannies I hope.

What are some fantasy books with an overall atmosphere of loneliness? Spiritual, physical, whatever.

>>12103376
Mommy is love. Mommy is life

>>12105565
Dwayne the Rock as Kassad
Tessa Thompson as Lamia
Bendycock Cucumber as Het Masteen
Peter Dinklage as Silenius
Christopher Lee as Weintraub
Idris Elba as the Consul
???? as Hoyt

>>12104908
I loved it, although it's pretty flawed.

You can tell that whoever replaced David Hartwell didn't give a shit about these books, five and the first 75% of six are atrociously edited.

>>12105670
Yeah, almost like a small biased group of people is giving the award or something. When the last time literary awards actually meant something? When Dune was still new?

>>12105364
Very Victorian. Great prose, lots of mood, slow, nothing happens until the end.

>>12104649
>Starship Troopers if you haven't already

Have you read Armor? I've heard it brought up with Starship Troopers multiple times as a very similar book.

>>12105715
picked up

>>12105673
might be a bit tough to get Christopher Lee

>>12105201
Man, when I started reading aurora I had a ragin hard on. It was everything that I wanted. A great fucking book. But then it went down and by the end of the book it felt more like a story written for cosmopolitan magazine.

Does it make sense to read Hogfather without reading the previous Discworld novels? Im currently reading Colour of Magic and I think it would be fun to read Hogfather shortly before Christmas.

Started reading Redemption Ark by Alastar Reynolds after the first book and it went well for 3 chapters, just when I realized that all the main characters and all the fucking ship captains are women. Now I am not a meme frog loving autist and usually don't give a fuck about shit like this but this time it kinda made me loose interest in the book (not that I was extremely interested in it before that).
So, help me understand it anons, is there something wrong with me or did Reynolds turn full blown feminist after the first book?

>>12105784
It's a death novel IIRC so you could read Mort first, Hogfather is fairly standalone but Mort introduces the character well

Also it's much easier going than colour from what I remember

>>12105673
Rate

>>12105858
I don't remember there being black people. Kassad should be an arab, not a polynesian.

>>12102937
Unironically Lady and Croaker. Mostly because the idea of the big evil bad girl ending up with some schmuck is a very interesting concept to me and not one you see often. It lends to a very interesting possible dynamic given the power imbalance. I feel the books didn't do it proper justice until Port of Shadows, but hey.

>>12105721
>armor

it's a very good that almost seems like a carbon copy of ST until you read a bit in. multiple protagonists and felix is a fucking badass. that ending especially.

>>12105874
The Lady really mellowed out.

>>12105044
KSR sucks dude

>>12105709
Have you read her books? They're pretty good. Or you have something better published those years?

>>12105709
>Dune
lmao the writing in Dune fucking sucks dude and that's your highpoint for the good old days.

Throne of Glass is pretty good.

>>12105939
Magna

>>12105939
Begone Sarah J Fatass fag

I've only read asoiaf and really want to read more fantasy, but can't decide between The Black Company and The Wheel of Time. Which one is better?

>>12106003
Black Company is a much easier read but you might not get on with Cook's sparse prose, on the other hand even the good WoT books are a real slog.

>>12106003
Black Company is dark and gritty, Wot is extremely lengthy and at times very sloggy but it's better suited for a beginner.

>>12102960
sanderfag a hack

>>12106027
bitch you ded

>>12105607
Thanks, I'll read the first two.

>>12106003
Neither, go with something smaller. Trilogy or standalone because I promise you you'll end up dropping either of those 2 series you pick up.

Blood Song, Rook, Lies of Locke Lamora, Tigana, Priest of Bones are a few good options to start with as a beginner to fantasy.

>>12105497
The War Hound and the World's Pain
The Drawing of the Dark
On Strange Tides
Sandokan

>>12106059
Blood Song was such a good book, shame that the sequels sucked liquid ass.

>>12105520
I liked Dying Earth better, but the third book of Lyonesse almost made up for the first two.

>>12106003
>>12106059
The chronicles of the Black Company is a self contained trilogy, it's not too long either. The Books in the South are just a bonus if you're a big fan.
Wheel of Time seems to flip flop between being based and being complete dogshit every other chapter and it's a hell of a commitment on top.

Are there any good rpg style fantasy novels?

>>12106186
Forgotten Realms Novels

>>12106156
>The chronicles of the Black Company is a self contained trilogy, it's not too long either. The Books in the South are just a bonus if you're a big fan.

Silver Spike is also that +1 that actually gives closure to the original trilogy seeing as everyone was wondering what happened afterwards considering certain key players were left alive.

I am enjoying Neuromancer.

>>12106229
>Forgotten Realms Novels
Which one is best to start off with?

What do we think of Turtledove?

>>12106289
He sucks at alt-history despite being 90% of the genre, never read any of his more fantastical shit

>>12106289
One of historical fiction greats. I imagine him as someone who writes during every waking moment he has considering his bibliography.

>>12106301
Alt-history is generally bad

>>12106308
Yeah, the majority of the genre is just "what if the nazis and/or confederates won"

>>12105520
I havent read Lyonesse, but im reading Dying Earth and it fuckin slaps

>>12106003
Go with Robin Hobb instead

>>12106289
Videssos and Hellenic Traders are by far his best works.

>>12106319
>and it fuckin slaps
Anon, use white people talk. You mean it's FIRE?

>>12106317
Joe Steel was alright, that one's "What if Stalin was American and ruled instead of FDR"

>>12105721
Starship Troopers is about a volunteer who likes fighting in a just, or at least justified, war. Still, he's basically just a regular guy who did the hard work of meeting the standards of an elite, professional military. He understands the important place of the military in civilized society, an understanding widely shared by and in fact foundational to that society.

Forever War is about a conscript who hates fighting in a war no one cares about. His service alienates him from a rapidly changing culture that doesn't care about him.

Armor is a Hollywood blockbuster about a badass dude with a mysterious past wrecking aliens.

>>12105858
Scholar needs to be jewier.

You've already got your black with Lamia, this is a blockbuster film not Medea XXIV.

The Templar needs to be Asian. They sort of are in the books, and you need to gun for that Chinese market.

Dwayne Johnson seems to want a family friendly image, you want someone who's fine with being one side of the movie's sex scenes. Also I think Kassad should be more of a wiry MMA type, not a roided hulk, but that's negotiable.

>>12106154
Really? Madouc annoyed me a bit because Vance rushed to wrap everything up so quickly.

>>12106258
Either Icewind Dale trilogy or the Songs & Swords series.The Finder's Stone trilogy is also a good starting point

>>12106333
>Videssos
What's the actual story of this, about to drop wheel of time again for it.

>>12106379
idk man. The first two were interesting, but very scattered and slow. I had to force my way through them. Madouc was a lot more focused and hard to put down.

I have the best taste in the world. I only like books that I know are really great.
Anyone else like this?

>>12106446
No, my taste is terrible, but I sleep well.

>>12106446
Yeah same

>>12106446
You are me, and I am you.

>>12102937
>What's your favorite fantasy or science fiction romance?
The interdependency because they invest no time or effort into it. The woman tells the guy to strip and that they are going to fuck.

And that's it. Best romance.

>>12104614
I've read a few of his novels and any of his short story collections I could get my hands on--Axiomatic is one of the best things I have ever read.

What's the point of trying when Sanderson, YA and lit RPGs are the future?

>>12106649
Good authors don't ask these questions. You shouldn't try, because you're bad.

>>12106649
Past, present and future are all Guy Gavriel Kay.

>>12105497
I think Wheel of Time was good for it's time. Reading it now feels more tedious than it had when I was younger.

>>12106474
is this as furry as it looks?

>>12106649
Terry Goodkind used to be a major force in fantasy lol

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? More like, Do Cuckolds Dream of Black Cock? lmao!

>>12106427
I believe that we have inverse preferences. I'm surprised you stuck it out through the first two books if you didn't like that style.

>>12106248
It's still great. So is Count Zero

Does anyone else feel like their passion for reading wanted after they started writing?

I remember before I got serious about being a novelist I could just tear through a book a day for a week. I'd look up from the pages and it would be morning all of a sudden.

I haven't picked up a physical book in years at this point, and instead spend all my time writing fiction in its various forms.

>>12103976
Ugh, one GGK book was enough for me. The Summer Tree was overly-convoluted and the fantasy world he created was not believable at all.
>>12106003
Heartily recommend The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant

Reading pic related and it's a fun thought-provoking read!

>>12107233
pleb

>>12107088
Not really. Weird as it may sound, I find my writing quality goes up if I tackle it right after a reading session

Did you fall for the Malazan meme, /sffg/?
Did you like it?

>>12104656
Otherworld by tad Williams

>>12107485
No
Duno

>>12107485
Trash that drags on forever

>>12107485
I read about 100 pages of the first, felt it was incoherent in a way that wasn't a stylistic choice and haven't been back to it

>>12105094
I swear I’m the only person who loved this edge lord series

>>12107567
It redeems itself by the end of PoT but I still didn't stick with the second book for some reason.

Might go back to it because his other work is good

>>12107485
Read two of those, I think it's time to begin the next one soon.

Fantasy books that actually feel fantastical? No or little human politics, and the characters don't speak like 21st century teenagers like with Sanderson.

>>12107794
There are human beings that talk like Sanderson characters? Are you a Mormon by chance?

>>12106892
Maybe. I rarely drop books and I love everything else I've read of Vance's, so I wanted to give it a fair go. Sometimes I like things much better on a reread, as though I'm in a different mood or whatever.
In the theory that we do have inverse preferences in this area, I'll recommend you Little, Big by John Crowley. If Lyonesse was painful, it was excruciating.

>>12107794
The Wizard Knight.
Lord Dunsany's stuff.

>>12107485
fine, ill fucking read it. christ

/sffg/'s thoughts on the Kingkiller Chronicle?

>>12107956

>>12107956
Name of the Wind is one of the worst books I've ever read.

>>12107956
First book is mediocre, second is way worse and third will never be released.

>>12107956
"Most of Pat's adult life has been spent in the University Wisconsin Stevens Point. In 1991 he started college in order to pursue a career in chemical engineering, then he considered clinical psychology. In 1993 he quit pretending he knew what he wanted to do with his life, changed his major to "undecided," and proceeded to study whatever amused him. He also began writing a book....

For the next seven years Pat studied anthropology, philosophy, eastern religions, history, alchemy, parapsychology, literature, and writing. He studied six different martial arts, practiced improv comedy, learned how to pick locks, and became a skilled lover of women."

This bio written by the author himself should tell you all you need to know, honestly.

>>12108041
Pat sounds like an industrial douche hammer.

>>12107485
Yes, I enjoyed.
Planning a reread maybe next year.

>>12108041
Yeah he should be executed

>>12107956
>hey Im a virgin but Im so good at sex that this sex goddess will let me live because I fucked her brains out

Big laff

>>12107485
I read about 50 pages of it and seemed like a world of warcraft fanfic, so I dropped. Didn't feel like picking it up again.
Additionally, it felt like it has too many coincidences going on for the first 50 pages.

Any good Scottish fantasy?

>>12107485
>>12107956
>Modern Fantasy

>>12108088
Sooner or later you get tired of Tolkien I guess.

>>12108086
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_independence_referendum,_2014

>>12108101
we, here, consume BotNS

>>12108101
>Tolkien
Who?

>>12108137
Book of My Wife's Son

>>12108137
How dare you call BotNS fantasy?

>>12108138
It's for the best.

>>12108149
>Tfw no Witch Mommy gf

Is Taim the only man in the Wheel of Time that possesses a pair of testicles?

>>12108149
Why do you tempt me so with anime thots

>>12108353

How the FUCK is amazon going to adapt Remembrance of Earth's Past (The Three Body Problem)? Everyone is Chinese, and the third book literally has mankind being destroyed because they became too feminized.

Can't imagine a Western crew shooting something that goes so strongly against the feminist triumphalism being shat out everywhere.

>>12108374
> has mankind being destroyed because they became too feminized.

oh so they ripped off forever war on top of the other stuff

>>12107799
What other Vance have you read? The man loved to take his time with scenes, although on reflection Lyonesse was where he did it the most. Cadwal, too. Maybe it's a "late period" thing with him.

>>12108421
Forever War has a crazy M.A.D. scenario too? And a practically godlike enemy?

>>12108374
There were a few token gweilos, and more characters who could be without changing much.

It will be relatively trivial to portray Cheng Xin Did Nothing Wrong; Liu went halfway there himself.

>>12108374
>>12108457
No, don't worry he's just retarded. Even if Forever War invented the idea that the human race will become more androgynous (it didn't), it goes in a completely different direction than Remembrance and EVEN IF IT DIDN'T, it is in fact OK for authors to borrow tropes and ideas from prior works and put their own spin on them.

>>12107794
The Night Circus

>>12107956
it was ok. characters are awful but he puts a good amount of work into his world
>>12108041
>a skilled lover of women
god, just leave that one out and its at least bearable

>>12108447
I guess just his Dying Earth stuff, To Live Forever, Emphyrio, The Dragon Masters, and Dodkin's Job.

>>12105939
Why do people here seem to hate throne of glass?
is it that bad?

>>12108874
dedicated spammer

>>12108873
You'd probably like Demon Princes.

>>12108457
What's "Forever War"? Is it any good?

>>12109061
Thanks, I've got them somewhere, but the time has yet to be right.
>>12109116
A classic about coming home from Vietnam in space. It's pretty good.

Roman fantasy with pokemon like elemental animism. thoughts?

I'm in need of some good old-fashioned non-cerebral bombastic space opera after replaying some of the original Halo recently. What are my best bets?

>>12109178
Deathstalker

>>12109127
it was ok. Powerlevel shit got way out of hand. Autistic queen was best girl you cannot prove me wrong.

>>12109127
I didn't like the second book because the enemy was basically Alien, with that magic system I wanted all human conflict

>>12109127
is furies actually pokemon meets ancient rome? From what I saw, it looked like Jojo meets ancient rome, though granted, I didn't get very far in.

I need to go back and try again for the millionth time when I'm done with Name of the Wind

>>12109116
It's pretty great imo.

>>12109116
one of the best science fictions novels ever desu

>>12105180
okay Mark Lawrence we get it, you post here

>>12109127
>Jim Butcher
No thanks.

what is the greatest space opera novel of all time /sffg/?

>>12109127
>Roman fantasy
I bet the men aren't even misogynistic.

>>12110595
Dune

>>12107981
>Gregolas the Parched

Do I get it or should I just shut up and continue waiting to never buy The Winds of Winter?

>>12111446
>buying a glorified family tree
What do you think?

>>12111446
Just drop it all

>>12111446
>Targaryens
Who cares

>>12111446
Winds isn't coming out for a couple years so you might as well read something else

>>12111960
>Winds isn't coming out for a couple years
I am amused you think it's coming out at all.

>>12111960
>Winds isn't coming out for a couple ye

>>12111446
even grrm cock suckers don't seem to like it so it's probably pretty boring

>>12107233
>hating tigana
>liking Thomas Covenant
The only good book GGK wrote was Tigana, everything else is shit.
Thomas Covenant is shit.
You have shit tastes.

>>12112097
Absolute pleb

>>12110595
Not the best,but The Gap Cycle fucking slaps

>>12112097
> Thomas Covenant is shit.
Well with that statement it's safe to ignore anything you ever write.

>>12112276
It comes damn close, The Gap Series is fucking amazing.

>>12112287
You like books where the author fills pages with denials huh?

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20181201T00&p0=224&msg=Thrall%20Release%20In%20Amazon%20Kindle

>>12112386
you know its been leaked right?
check myanonanmouse.

>>12112097

>The only good book GGK wrote was Tigana, everything else is shit.

I will never understand the love for Tigana. Our band of unlikely compatriots are welded into a team during a fucking time skip. And we learn of this in a dialogue in which amongst other things, the grouchy old wizard who had earlier been marked for selfish, untrustworthy and possibly a psychopath, informs us that he loves his new teammates more than his own children and would be ready to die for any of them. This is shit writing 101. You don't get to have characters make a 180 in their beliefs and attitudes without showing us how.

Further there were a number of fairly useless scenes that no doubt in Kay's mind showed off his themes rather than his BDSM fetish, but frankly were just filler that could have been better used to, oh I don't know, show how the characters come together as a team or something.

I mean, I liked the book overall, but what I don't get is how many people seem to latch on Tigana when Kay has so many other novels that are pretty similar, but better written.

>looking for some new hard sci-fi to read on Goodreads
>fucking everything is the first part of a series
GODDAMMIT GIVE ME A GOOD ONE-OFF HARD SCI-FI THAT I HAVEN'T ALREADY READ

>>12112398
I did check. It's not there....

>>12112398
Someone was memeing that around for weeks. It's not on the site.
If you have it give me the torrent code.

>>12112560
>>12112585
If it was there, someone probably snitched and the mods removed it. It's against the rules now to post a book that isn't released.

>>12112560
can you check if the super sales omnibus is there or book 3 if thats not available?
id prefer the omnibus since theres an extra epiloge chapter there.

>>12112630
3 was there ages ago. I saw someone say so in the thread a while back. I don't people upload omnibuses, you would have to request that.

>>12112668
can you get me a copy of book 3?
i dont have an myanonamouse account. i think next interviews are starting on friday so ill probably try to get in but just applying for one book seems stupid. i just cant find it anywhere. not on mobilism or any of the irc channels. youd think 20 days after its release itd be everywhere.

>>12112559
I'm the opposite of you, the more books the better

>>12112706
>reading books
What kind of adult are you?

>>12112706
I'm not going to put this out as an absolute, but generally if you can't be done with what you're saying in one book your story is bad. I can stretch it to three books at most.

>>12112695
>not on mobilism or any of the irc channels.
If you find "E William Brown's Daniel Black Thrall" for me I can download Super Soaked Wolf Cunt 3 for you.

>>12112797
I can see why someone doesn't like to invest themselves into long series, but your reasoning for it is nonsense. A story can say more than one thing, and it's not like every multi book series is just one long plot, it can be multiple small ones strung together.

>>12112906
I don't think that's even out yet.
There's a rumor that a beta reader has leaked it but there is no evidence

I'm also interested in thrall and supes 3
I hope some anon here gets generous and share

>>12112995
I hope not. Seeing you guys begging is funny, kinda like junkies.

>>12113158
If you read them you too would need a fix.

>>12113236
HAHAHAHAHA!!!

>>12113247
That's a third leg... not a dick...

>>12113247
>he laughs while having a folder full of hentai girls with penises
wew lad

>>12113298
I assure you it's needed for character development.

>>12113319
Now you understand how low you are on the totem pole.

>>12113319
>girls
>with penises
Those two things are not synonymous with each other, unless one is inside the other.

>>12113346
Modern fantasy disagrees.

>>12113345
>now a loli
Yeah nah you can't laugh at anyone mate
>>12113346
It's hentai I don't have to explain shit

>>12113247
>>12113345
Why is japan trying to turn people into degenerates by drawing girls and putting penises on them?
Guys don't look like that. The bone structure is completely different. It's the gay agenda in nippon cartoons.

>>12113365
>draw a girl
>call it a boy
>Why is japan trying to turn people into degenerates
Because they want company

>>12113362
Why do they have potatoe eyes? Are they a potatoe? Are they even female?

>>12104614
Permutation City handles themes of immortality and Virtual Reality better than any other text since the 90s imho.
rip Thomas

>>12113375
No, they draw a boys and call them girls. There is a difference

>>12107485
New here. What is Malazan and why is everyone here calling it shit? I'm getting a recommendation for it and I don't want to waste money on something I'll hate

>>12113364
You have to let go of this inflated sense of worth anon.

>>12113381
>Are they even female?
Nah, that dude is Brazilian.

>>12113158
its true suffering.
by all accounts those books should be bottom tier trash that no one would ever want to read, yet i cant fucking stop. ive never really felt that way about a book before. sure there was a desire to read on and to know how a book continues. but not this fucking need. its so fucking weird.

>>12113427
>everyone
It's just one turbomad autist who hates it with passion because he wishes he'd written it himself

>>12113428
Who is she

>>12113430
At least you are aware of how far you have fallen anon. I hope you find your way again.

>>12113461
Some varbie from /fit. I am sure you can look her up.

>>12113461
Suzanny Petrovyck

>>12113487
who in their right mind impregnated that manly chin?

>>12113487
>At least you are aware of how far you have fallen anon. I hope you find your way again.
ive embraced it. its too late for me to change. other books are bland now. like they have no substance to them.

>>12113428
Donna from Twin Peaks really let herself go.

>>12113505
I think that's a fat dude. I know that the monstrosity on the right is a dude.

>>12113508
So anything well written is bland now?
Interdasting.

>>12113508
That is why I am consuming a bunch of self published book. They are short and get to the point. Publishing house authors fill their books with too much fluff. I can't take that shit anymore.

I'm going through a list I found on the Daniel Black forums, most are pretty good. Some are bad, but I can't be choosy.

>>12113428
WHO IS THIS GIRL

>>12113548
>That is why I am consuming a bunch of self published book. They are short and get to the point. Publishing house authors fill their books with too much fluff. I can't take that shit anymore.
This actually makes an incredible amount of sense. I would have never thought that the reason is so simple.

>>12113546
>I think that's a fat dude.
A fat dude can't get aesthetic chin and jawline like that.

>>12111446

Where can I read the leak for this.

>>12113565
How is it leaked? Wasn't it released?
I saw the book on P R I V A T E

>>12113553
You'd have to be a landwhale to cover that superchin in fat.

>protagonist is a roman transported into a fantasy realm
>he has modern day morals

>>12113686
To be fair the Romans were degenerate sodomites, so it's not that unrealistic.

>>12111991
>>12112030
My conspiracy theory is that he's waiting for the tv show to end so that he can write something that isn't that. Sure two years is optimistic but otoh I don't care because I stopped reading at the beginning of book 4.

>>12113699
He's a REPUBLICAN Roman.

>>12113711
I thought he was telling them what to make and once done, he'd take the script and convert it to book format.

>>12113565
>>12113583
http://www.mediafire.com/file/e62thpfq1el3gpe/GRRM-Fir_Bld.rar/file

>>12113779
whoops
that was the audiobook
this is the ebook
https://uploadocean.com/7xmeh75k6tk7

Is the Demon Cycle series any good?

>>12113686
I don't get it. Weren't they like that?

>>12114014
No because they owned slaves

>>12113954
The first half of the first book is. The rest is some of the cuckiest shit I've ever seen.

Where is the general slave?
Make the new thread already.

>>12113736
His idea for the series was to subvert expectations so that's what I think he wants to do. If he followed the tv series, the books would be done already.