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12092939 No.12092939 [Reply] [Original]

Tell me about this guy. Is he worth listening to?

>> No.12092965

>>12092939
No. Read Schopenhauer and Stirner

>> No.12092968

>>12092939
It's worth being familiar with him. He's kind of a big deal

>> No.12092969

>>12092939
He was pretty based desu, epitomized the whole "good person" thing. If you're living in 2018 you might wanna take your Bible and just skip to the Jesus part.

>> No.12092973

>>12092939
He's a jew, so no.

>> No.12092980
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12092980

I'll give you the hot take, friend.

Jesus is a straight baller.

That guy said so much cool shit that it basically doesn't matter whether you think he was the actual exclusive son of God or a miracle worker or a mystic or a teacher or an invention of conspiratorial jews.

Independent of any theological statements you do or don't want to make about him he stands up on his own merit as being worthy of paying attention to, learning from and emulating.

So even if you're one of those "God isn't real and neither is your magic man" people you can still learn from his words and actions.

That's one of the things that makes him so legit is that even if he was completely invented (which I don't believe) it doesn't detract from the strength of the teaching.

>> No.12093022

>>12092980
Great take anon. Christianity intensifies the meaning and potential of the individual human person more than any other religion or philosophy, because it puts them in a direct and personal relationship with the eternal God Himself. Because of the Incarnation (God becoming man in Christ), man is able to enter a filial relationship with God. God treats every soul (at least every baptised soul) as His own son or daughter. This means that every particular soul has something like an infinite worth. A lot of religions or philosophies allow you to dissolve your personality (e.g. in a pantheistic "All", or in a Nirvana-like vacuum, or just in the case of materialism just dust), but in Christianity you are left with having a soul that must choose between good and evil, between obeying or disobeying God, loving or hating Him - and your decision will have an eternal consequence; and it's not just important for you, but the eternal God Himself (from all eternity) has taken a personal interest in your own soul and its eternal destiny, so it's not just a matter of saving or losing your soul, but of pleasing or displeasing the God who has looked on you as a Father before the world even began. In this context "faith" has a very special significance.

>> No.12093037

Yes, you have no idea how much your life will improve

>> No.12093059

>>12093022

>Great take anon. Christianity intensifies the meaning and potential of the individual human person more than any other religion or philosophy, because it puts them in a direct and personal relationship with the eternal God Himself.

^ this

>> No.12093075

>>12092939
Yes, literally the epicenter of personal growth

>> No.12093082
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12093082

>>12092980
I love that image

>> No.12093105

>>12093022
Its still a lie though

>> No.12093111

>a tree that produces no good fruit is chopped down and thrown into the fire
Absolutely based

>> No.12093128

>>12092980
yep that's gonna be based from me anon

>> No.12093131

Only retards don't believe in Christ. People who think it's fake and gay are undeserving egotists with no theological background.

>> No.12093133

>>12093022
>in Christianity you are left with having a soul that must choose between good and evil, between obeying or disobeying God, loving or hating Him - and your decision will have an eternal consequence; and it's not just important for you, but the eternal God Himself (from all eternity) has taken a personal interest in your own soul and its eternal destiny, so it's not just a matter of saving or losing your soul, but of pleasing or displeasing the God
You say this as if it were a good thing.

>> No.12093135
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12093135

>tfw not smart enough to read the bible

>> No.12093148

>>12093131
Only retards believe in Christ. People who think it's real and straight are undeserving egotists with no theological background.

>> No.12093188

>>12093131
believe in christ all you want, you're still going to hell.

>> No.12093425

>>12093148
Cute meme, and I want you firstly to know that the anon you were responding to is an oversimplifying fool. However, your "I can say the same thing if we're not giving evidence" meme claim is absurdly statistically incorrect.

>> No.12093433

>>12093188
Blasphemy.
That is not the message of the Bible.

>> No.12093457

>>12093188
>>12093433
See James 2:19. "Belief" isn't enough, faith is required.

>> No.12093466

>>12093457
They can be used synonymous in a secular person which is >>12093188

>> No.12093481

>>12093425
Cute meme, and I want you firstly to know that the anon you were responding to is an oversimplifying fool. However, your "your 'I can say the same thing if we're not giving evidence' meme claim is absurdly statistically incorrect" meme claim is absurdly statistically incorrect.

>> No.12093505

>>12093481
NOW THIS... IS EPIC

>> No.12093524
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12093524

>>12092939
Yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-P3CS_2740

>>12093022
This, OP. You may have suffered greatly. You may think no one in the world loves you, or could ever love you. But Jesus loves you. Yes, I mean (You).

Life is hard because humans have an inborn need to sin. The more you overcome this need by your own agency, the more you become like Christ. Why should you do this? Because an absolute morality exists. Choose right action because it is what Christ commanded, and because it is a mercy to your brothers. Turn to Christ and have faith in Him because He is goodness itself, which you were made (in His image) to manifest in the world.

>>12093135
Keep trying, anon. Go to church. Watch some breaking in the habit on youtube. The kid is annoying, but he knows his stuff.

>> No.12093533

>>12093135
Sure you are, you just need a translation that speaks to you. Try the ESV.

>> No.12093534

>>12093524

god love u2 frend

>> No.12093536

>>12093505
Basado y rojopilled mi amigo Shapiro, estas muy de moda.

>> No.12093550

>>12093536
אני תומך במתחם המלחמה של איסריאל

>> No.12093603

>>12092939
Absolutely. Jesus Christ is the incarnate God

>>12093524
Thanks for the song anon, responding with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJj0z0u_9qQ

>>12093148
Can you find a single text of a person claiming Jesus did not exist before the enlightenment? With all the Jews, Roman leaders, and Greek philosophers who disputed with the Christians in the early centuries of the church, surely one would say "oh and by the way this Jesus you guys venerate didn't even exist." It's pretty suspect the way Jewish and Roman sources always talk about him as a real guy who really existed, even if they disagree with the Christian viewpoint.

>> No.12093638

Did we really need a Christ thread on /lit/ the day i'm about to backslide with drugs?

>> No.12093649

>>12093638
Yes. Especially now.

Throw it away anon. There isn't enough bourbon in the world for me to ever be satisfied. It will kill me before I've had enough. Why hurt and destroy that which God has made, and loves?

>> No.12093653

>>12093638
>>12093649
Remember your body is the Temple God resides, do you respect the Glory for what you Hold inside you?

>> No.12093785

>>12092939
Jesus was pretty redpilled. He called the jews spawn of the devil and synagogue of satan.

>> No.12093799

>>12093785
All the apostles are Jewish

>> No.12094615

>>12093059
>>Great take anon. Christianity intensifies the meaning and potential of the individual human person more than any other religion or philosophy, because it puts them in a direct and personal relationship with the eternal God Himself.
>^ this

double this

>> No.12094689

>>12093785
classic selfhating jew

>> No.12094709
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12094709

>>12092980
>>12093022
God Bless

>> No.12094729

>>12093785
Jesus was himself a jew.
He didn't hate Jews, he hated the jewish ruling class at the time.

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12094731

>>12094709

>> No.12094881

>>12092980
Aw. Jesus loves pepe. Thats so heartwarming

>> No.12094884

>>12092980
Yes, Tolstoy's "The Gospel In Short" is the best tool to follow this idea, if you have zero clue on where to look for jesus and his teachings in the new testament

>> No.12094896

No, he was a faggot mary sue and his miracles were shit-tier

>> No.12096365

>He who will drink from my mouth will become like me. I myself shall become he, and the things that are hidden will be revealed to him.