/lit/ - Literature

OoT deserves all the praise it gets

>>12092558
Watchmen and 1984 are the only ones that meet the overrated criteria.

OoT and Ghibli (Miyazaki at least) are pretty much legendary.

Beatles can eat a fat cunt though.

>>12092587
>OoT and Ghibli (Miyazaki at least) are pretty much legendary.

Have you tried playing that shit recently? It hasn't aged well.

In the context of pop music, the Beatles are as genuinely great as it's possible to be. You can't really overrate them, any more than you can overrate the influence of Shakespeare on drama. 1984 is good but overrated. Who gives a fuck about comics or games?

>>12092607
tbqh i think Dylan and the Velvet Underground are much better 60s pop music

>>12092587
First half of every Miyazaki movie is good, then they lose all focus and become swirling anime magic bullshit and people yelling

>>12092599
I think OOT aged well for what it is/was.
The story and the puzzle designs are timelessly solid.
A more admirable work than the pure density of ff7 which many a pleb might see as a sign of merit, but given the medium is actually a weakness

>>12092607
I considered putting Queen

Just OoT and Watchmen are ok to praise.

since 2016 4chan is basically reddit now

>>12092607
There were plenty of other pop bands of their era who produced music at a comparable standard or better than The Beatles. The only reason they are considered 'great' is because they just happened to become insanely popular. They were the first pop band to achieve 'superstardom', but I really doubt it was because their music stood head and shoulders over all others.

>>12092558
Enjoy Watchmen for the craft and 1984 for the scenario. Both of their plots are pretty average. Wouldn’t call them overrated personally

>>12092708
Really it's the white nationalism that became reddit. I say this as someone not ideologically opposed.

>>12092617
NEKOBASU

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>>12092626
Zelda sucks. Japanese people can't make games, only autistic white college dropouts working out of their mom's garages make good games.

>>12092730
4chin is full of T_d refugees.
we're reddits afterbirth

>>12092558
Watchmen is unironically brilliant. I think it elevated superhero comic books to an art form unmatched before or since. I can pick it up and still discover new ideas, little visual motifs, thematic parallels, etc.

1984 used to be my favorite book in high school and I still think it's great, but on on a more objective level it probably isn't up there as one of the all-time greats. Orwell had some great ideas and the book sparked my love for literature with his emphasis on the power language has over thought.

OoT is great for the time but hasn't aged all that well. MM is probably better.

Ghibli is a studio so I can't really make an evaluation on their entire filmography. Their animation is consistently fantastic from what I've seen.

The Beatles' influence on pop culture is undeniable, and not just because they were popular. Their songwriting and especially production is top-notch. I wouldn't call them one of my favorite bands or anything close to that. They might be overrated by sheer virtue of being so incredibly popular, though.

>>12092758
the_donald isn't really reddit. Reddit is more John Oliver and Stephen Colbert. Equating Reddit with Trumpism is like calling all of 4chan /lgbt/

>>12092719
You can doubt it all you want, there isn't a single contemporary musical act that can touch the Beatles, bar maybe Dylan.

>>12092599
The vast majority of games age like shit. You can probably count the amount of games that haven't on your fingers.

>>12092773
whenever i venture into a reddit thread it is almost all made up of 'It's almost as if' type lefties shitting on Trump

>>12092792
I feel like games either have to lean hard into mechanics or story in order to have any longevity. Games that try to split the difference tend to fail. Idk, not a hard and fast rule I guess.

>>12092792
That doesn't happen when you have rock solid systems and highly experimental and adaptable gameplay like early western games.

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>>12092795
>redditors saying a board on reddit isn’t reddit because if it was reddit that would make them redditors but they’re not redditors so reddit isn’t reddit
No

>>12092816
im not a redditor though i dont have an account and rarely open up the comment section, i just sort of aimlessly browse it sometimes

politically im not a trump guy either, i dont really care about politics but if i had to pick id go with a Hitler type program

>>12092808
Tech and art design plays into this too. A Link to the Past has aged fairly well because it looks pretty and OOT, like most games of its era, hasn't aged so well mostly because it is so fucking ugly.

OOT is a great example of the distinction between Important and Great.

>>12092558
>Talk about anything overrated or supposedly overrated by "Reddit"

>>12092886
What was so important about OoT? Never understood this claim.

>plebtit

Opinion discarded

>>12092558
In my opinion
>Watchmen
Haven't read a lot of their comics, so I can't have a full opinion on that, but from I can gather, it's a pretty nice comic

>1984
Great book, liked the dystopian ambient; not the best one on the genre but still a nice expirience

>OoT
Nice game, though I'll admit that some of the stuff, like the mechanics, didn't aged that well

>Studio Ghibli
Loved the animation on their movies. Storyline is decent enough, nothing too much out of the ordinary

>Beatles
While I enjoy their music, I don't think they're the greatest band of all time and some of their stuff is kind of overrrated. I have my favorite bands based on the genre they tend to play, so I wouldn't be able to tell you which is the one out of all

>>12092898
Mostly combat and camera-related things. It invented Z-targeting, which was so influential pretty much every 3D action game is still using it today. Nobody had quite figured out how to get combat working in 3D before then.

>>12092617
You just have a short attention span

>>12092558
watchmen - don't care
1987 - ok
zelda - don't care
ghibli - great
beatles - ok

>>12092558
>vidya
>comics
Gas yourself

>>12092816
Reddit is a spirit before a website.

>>12092558
fuck, that about covers it, add terrence malick except he's not even great, MCU, DCU, Mexican food, Mexicans in general, ebonics, marijuana, craft beer, artisan pizza, Darren Aronofsky, Bukowski, Scandinavia, Juul, rapid dissemination of information (it isn't always the information you want others to know, is it?), topical ointments and atheism

>>12092558
i like two, but neither are the goat

Comics, anime, and video games are not great

1984 is an okay novel that profited from paranoia. The Beatles are enjoyable and influential but not terribly impressive. Kind of like Dumas

>>12092558
How can something be both great and overrated? If it's great it deserves its praise.

>>12092886
But the 3DS remake is still good though.

>>12092758
>T_d refugees
What are they fleeing from? Did it get shut down?

>>12092558
1984 is underrated desu

>>12092558
>Lists five classics in their genre
>"huehue overrated? Duh????"
Get bent

>>12092616
>Velvet Underground
>pop music
jesus get off of /mu/ and get outside

>>12092587
This anon is enlightened with the truth

>>12092634
Queen is only very good (rather than great). Still overrated though

>>12092722
I agree, they're not overrated in their own right, just in the context of other works. For example, We is far more compelling than 1984 but 1984 is still great

>>12093429
A sort of scheissgeist

>>12092616
You might prefer them, but without the Beatles Dylan is a forgotten folksinger and Lou Reed is writing jingles and girl group pop