/lit/ - Literature

>>12084018
Oops, forgot to remove the (embed) tags from the copypaste. You fags have to live with it now since nobody else stepped up, though.

How is Tales of the Dying Earth? Are all the stories worth it?
I'm trying to decide whether to get the omnibus with all of them in it.

first for book of the new sun the best
>>12084105
get it then tell me how it is

>>12084186
>first
>replies to another post in the thread
Are you ok? Do you have brain damage?

>>12084018
>what book that you read recently did something cool and innovative?
Reverend insanity, a Chinese webnovel that features people capturing bugs formed from pure reality and using them to battle.

I'm stealing the concept for my own garbage novel and intend to make gorrilions.

>>12084316
Elaborate. Sounds pretty neat.

>>12084316
Yet another example of chinks stealing from the japs.

>>12084322
>>12084327
I'd suggest checking it out yourself because any description of the setting I give is going to fall flat, it's an interesting work even if it does suffer from the draw back of common web novels.

It's nothing like pokemon though.

>>12084105
Get the omnibus. There's basically three parts:
>The Dying Earth proper
Loosely connected vignettes with a shared setting. Hugely influential, but not representative of Vance's mature style -- very pulpy.

>Cugel
Same setting, but Cugel wanders the Dying Earth having adventures. He's a sociopath, it's great fun.

>Rhialto
Chill stories about wizards who are so powerful they don't give a fuck about anything but getting laid and bickering with each other. I love them, but apparently some people don't.

>>12084105
I didn't care for it. Vance writes like a Xianxia author with a editor, the shorts with Turjan, Guyal, etc were fine, as were the Rhialto stories, but the bulk of the book is made up with Cugel stories, which I shall summarize thus: a thug is laid low yet again by his own avarice.

I'd say see if you can get it from your library, or do a interlibrary loan on it.

I don't know if I like it, I'm about 3/4 through book 1 and everything is moving at a breakneck pace and every problem is solved by the main character just being better than everyone else and winning.

>>12084378

Zelazny loves his MCs. If you think that's bad, This Immortal got even worse in that regard.

>>12084409

I'd only read Lord of Light and For a Breath I Tarry before this and they're both fucking superb. Maybe I'll stick it out til I finish the second book and see how I feel.

Why is this book not on _any_ of the sci fi lists? Better yet, why not the whole trilogy?

>>12084018
Sometimes you need more crazy in your life.

>In the counter-earth of paleozoic darkness and daemonic sway, the people of Arras have dwindled, retreating from Urgit and Cormrum-by-the-Sea to clutches of domes in the desert. But still they walk the songlines of the seraphim, preserving their primeval lore.

muh

>>12084445
/lit/ hates good sci-fi

/lit/ thinks it's reddit I mean it is, but it's also very good.

alt-/lit/ hates that Obama endorsed it

>>12084711
>>12084445
Does anyone know if the German translation is good?

>>12084445
Because
>China

>>12084731
No clue, I know they omitted some stuff for the English based solely on feminism, which sucks.

>>12084750
Thats stupid, especially for such small remarks such as "she was beautiful".
Im just asking, because I feel like German translations of asian literature hasnt been that good in the previous years. I once bought a German version of Mishima that started with "Translated from the American version".

>>12084750
It's unfortunate to still see this sort of thing. You often hear of old translations being bowdlerized to fit Victorian standards and such. This is the same thing, just with a different concept of what is offensive.

>>12084750
In comparison, that incredibly dry Witcher English translation suddenly doesn't seem so bad.

>>12084445
Because modern SF isn't really that popular. People have been clamoring about the Expanse, but you can't really tell how many of those are coming from the TV show and aren't just "whoa, something that's not Star Wars or Star Trek!".

>Mazrim Taim isn't the protagonist
>we're stuck with this Rand faggot

Just finished Chanur novels. First books were awesome. Chanur's Venture and Homecoming are possibly the most intense sci-fi I ever read. Loved Cherryh's take on FTL shit, no meme star wars pew pew dogfights in space, distances are massive, as is proper, information latency, etc. Still feels like Cherryh didn't quite think the physics through, but miles better of the usual HURR INFORMATION TRAVELS INSTANTLY DURR FIGHTS AND CONFLICTS IN SPACE WILL BE THE SAME AS WW2 PLANE DOGFIGHTS. No furry shit. Ok constant cultural misunderstanding between species, has great plot effect instead of purely comedic or whatever.
Chanur's legacy is bretty dumb though. Also dumb is how humans ended up not doing anything and just going home after looming on the horizon as this massive doom armada for 3 books

>>12084876
>not naming the image "man drowning in pussy"
you had ONE job

>>12084876
>No furry shit
God damnit, that's pretty much the only reason I read.

I really don't want to have to go and read actual furry stories, but I love me some furry shit.

>>12084878
By "no furry shit" I mean no magic realm type shit with incessant furry sex. Protags of the novels are humanoid cats and their close allies the humanoid monkeys but they don't have sex outside of like three sentences which are basically "Pyanfar's husband hugged her and they had sex but then she had to get up and captain her ship".
There's some great worldbuilding about the cats though.

>>12084876
They didn't bang him and weren't convinced he was sentient for some time.

Anyway I guess I'll have to read more Cherryh now. She's pretty original and legit. Probably good at sex too. Wish I knew about more good scifi writers like her.

>>12084020
It's okay OP. It's not like anyone expected better from you.

Niven and Heinlein are shit writers and Asimov did not age well.

>>12084848
typical sf always tends to be a notch above typical fantasy because it seemingly requires more thought put into it. I mean, provided you're not going for something like merely using the sf as backdrop for young adult premise or something, but surprisingly I haven't seen many of those.

>>12084925
Sf usually fails at being even remotely realistic.

>>12084876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nUi3DaWzGI

>Tolkien
>CS Lewis
>GGK
>Zolazny
Name 1 (one) more fantasy author that isn't balls to the wall retarded, I dare you.

>>12084954
That's what got me into it!

>>12084958
Alan Garner, but eh is a children's fantasy

>>12084941
Being realistic has nothing to do with it, though. Fantasy can simply get away with "sorta medieval fantasy with elves and dwarves" much more easily compared to at least basic setting building SF has to commit to on top of whatever story is actually being told.

Serious question here.
Would you fuck an elf if presented with one, or something close to it?
Would you fuck an extraterrestrial being that has an orifice that can be a pseudo vagina, if presented with one?

>>12084994
>40 posts in
You're fucking late monthly anon.

>>12084993
Yes
No, it is too dangerous. If it is a gray alien I will attempt to rape it for personal reasons.

>>12084997
I was busy sleeping desu

>>12084997
The monthly book is also in the OP you retard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af49WfGUiNA
I guess I'm gonna have to read more Cherryh shit. This song is some Iron Maiden tier lyrics.

>>12084999
>No, it is too dangerous.
Why isn't there scifi where the human goes to have sex with an alien hottie... only to find out that females devour the males after intercourse, by first hand experience?

>>12084924
made me reply

>>12085010
Faggot fuck off. Me and monthly anon go way back. I encouraged him to do the "sffg book club" when he brought up the idea last year. After a few trial runs it's now a permanent fixture of the general.
I even offered him to put it in the OP at the bottom (when I was the general creation slave), but he didn't think it would last long or gather a lot of readers.

I've finally read all of Robert Howard's Conan stories. Are the stories by any of the other authors worth a read?

>>12085013
I mean it doesn't necessarily have to devour you maybe you get a std or radiation poisoning like that latino farmer that was abducted by grays and forced to fuck one of them

>>12085040
>>>12085013 (You) #
>I mean it doesn't necessarily have to devour
They are alien to us. Even if they are sentient, bury their dead, and have wet holes for plunging rigid sticks of flesh and muscle into. That doesn't mean they are human. They might be closer to spiders or praying mantis. After you ravage her cunny, she eats you like a bunny.

>>12085062
Wtf... How did it quote the number.. Is 4chen broken?

>>12085015
Niven's ringworld concept makes me angry because it only exists because it looks cool. It's utterly impractical and useless.
Asimov's three laws would cause robots to drop everything, ignore all orders from humans, tie them up, gag them, and put them into padded cells because "cannot allow humans to come to harm by inaction".
Heinlein is just meh.

>>12084993
>Would you fuck an elf
Yes
>Would you fuck an extraterrestrial being
No

>>12085026
Wow nice story anon, tell us more, everyone here is eager to hear about your adventures. Blog away.

>>12085062
I'm always prepared to defense myself against being stabbed or shot after I have sex with a woman, even my gf of many years. Same goes for mantis aliens. The problem isn't physical stuff that can be defended against, the problem is the alien might be perfectly amiable and 100 people who had sex with them were fine, but you specifically might have genes that make a harmless substance secreted by alien's vagina a poison to you. Or maybe you get an allergic reaction to it.

testing

Buy and read my books, incels.
Start with the first law trilogy, then read the standalones. By the time you're done, you're ready to pre-order my new first law trilogy.

>>12085077
Don't mind if I do.

>>12085081
>I'm always prepared to defense myself against being stabbed or shot after I have sex with a woman
I am at a loss for words.

>>12085114
Anything you say Mark. I'll start with the Red Sister series.

>>12085114
>my new first law trilogy.
He releasing another trilogy? I only finished first law because I'm a completionist. The only well written character was gloktha. He was far more interesting than the rest. If I was a normie I would have dropped that series part way through book one. I'm not reading anything else by Abercrombie.

>>12085081
>I'm always prepared to defense myself against being stabbed or shot after I have sex with a woman, even my gf of many years.
What?

>>12085118
He probably rapes a lot, and the girls he likes to rape don't take it laying down. So when he nuts and is physically drained they probably attack him. He has trained himself and his body to react to this over the years of his hobby.

>>12085145
Why be so bleak and negative anon?
Maybe that anon is an accomplished lover and many times he had to run from angry boyfriends and husbands wearing nothing but his fedora and katana?

>>12085133
>didn't like logan or jezal
Faggot.
Yeah, set 30 years after the first trilogy and 15 years after the last stand alone. The stand alones are better written than the first trilogy. New trilogy should be better than anything he has done so far.

>>12085154
Where do guys like that post their pictures? I've always wondered how the fat fedora guys with swords end up online.

>>12085159
Well besides people who collect these magnificent displays of marshal arts, these poor souls can be found posting directly on:
Reddit (big surprise these);
Fedora forums (I kid you not);
Whatever Internet shithole will have them.

>>12085172
>that fucking belt
lmao

>>12085156
I read a few standalones, and I see they were progressing in time era. I was told thay red country is cowboy, and the next one was going to be steam engine or something. What time frame this new trilogy will have? Will it still have Byaz looking for an "else" fix, with his trusty banker side kick?

>>12085343
New trilogy is 15 years after red country. First book out this time next year. Joe mentioned industrialization will be more advanced.

Based and redpilled.
Sarah on suicide watch

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/2493401999?book_show_action=true&from_review_page=1

>>12085114
>>12085123
>>12085133
>>12085156
>>12085343
>>12085347
Friendly reminder that Bayaz did literally nothing wrong.

>>12084020
I read up to like chapter 500 or something but can't find the rest of it, fang yuan is in the wildlands and killed that loli girl

>>12085154
>>12085145
i'm just real scared of knives.
i haven't been attacked by any females but i am still ready for the inevitable stabbing and tend to hide knives from people.

>>12085422
Are you also scared of vaginas?

>>12085422
See a psychiatrist, anon

>>12084445
I didn't put it on the "crash course" list because that's intended to be an introduction to the genre, and while the TBP books are good they're essentially Clarke+.

>>12084993
if a cute elf girl wanted to fuck and wasn't super racist or conceited the way elves usually are I'd be up to bang.

>>12084343
Rhialto and his Wizards are honestly the best,
the flying palace and holiday trip to some crystal planet where magic IOUN stones are forged in the heart of a sun are just hugely entertaining and crazy

How many pages do you give a book a chance before dropping it?

>>12085802
~3.50

>>12085802
gave the Gardens of the Moon and subsequent books thousands of pages before finally being willing to drop it. Each book was just slightly shittier than the previous one and momentum carried me along, unwillingness to abandon the thousands of pages already read.

am rather happy of having bailed though, imho one shouldnt keep reading something which is no fun.

>>12085802
About 200, or the length of a short novel. If the author can't write a novel's worth of prose without it getting good then there's no point continuing. By the same token if the work is actually short then I'll just go ahead and finish it.

>>12085802
There's no fixed number desu. Sometimes it's obvious the book is going to be bad in the first few pages because it has bad prose and dialogue and other times when it involves bad plot you can't tell until you're through a good chunk of the book.
For example, I gave up on Malazan after 5 books and I only really liked 1 book out of the 5 but kept going because I thought it had potential.
Picked up a book by some fag called Andrew Rowe the other day and dropped it after I read his dedication even before the book started.
So there's really no set number for me, if the prose is decent I'll give most books a fair chance.
But I must say, I find myself a lot less patient and willing to drop a lot of books as I get older, books I would have forced myself to finish when I was younger. I've realized as I've grown older that there are too many good books out there that I'll enjoy the shit out of to waste time on books that are even slightly bad.

>>12084105
Get it.
It's great.

Is Narnia really about Christianity

>>12085865
They're both full of shit so I suppose they're related in that way at least.

>>12084994
It was nice, very sudden ending though.

>>12085853
>dropped it after I read his dedication even before the book started.
what did it say?

>>12084343
>Rhialto
>Chill stories about wizards who are so powerful they don't give a fuck about anything but getting laid and bickering with each other.

I read a short excerpt about a magician named Mazirian who wants to fuck(?) some kind of female forest creature, I think? Is that in this specific part of the book?

You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

>>12085785
You just announced to the entire general that your tastes are of the utter shit variety.
And I'm sure you're one of the fags that shits on modern amazon published books.

>>12085853
>>12085802
>But I must say, I find myself a lot less patient and willing to drop a lot of books as I get older, books I would have forced myself to finish when I was younger.
This. I have a thousand and change books read on goodreads, and every single one of them I read out. This year I realized that wasting time on this shit isn't worth it. I dropped my first book Kings of the Wyld a 100 pages in. What a shit book. And it was memed and reviewed highly too.
After that I just started dropping books like hot cakes.

>>12085853
>Andrew Rowe
Was it the Sufficiently Advanced faggotry book? I didn't even pick it up. I smelt the shit leaking from his loose anus all the way through my monitor when I checked up on it.

>>12085961
He's only 40. What is he doing with all those liverspots on his hand?

>>12085802
I almost never drop.
I recently had to put down a book that had MC who were rampant vandals. I hate vandals.
I'll probably try again later when I'm in a good mood though.

>>12084878
Chanur's Legacy is pretty furry. That's probably why anon disliked it.

EWB is a shit. William Arand is just pumping out books AND siphoning the mooks at Patreon.
EWB is just siphoning the mooks, and putting out shit all.
William posts shit to patreon multiple times a week.
EWB struggles to post part of a chapter every month.
Fucking shit. I want Daniel Black NOW.

>>12085802
It's always some minute shit that makes me drop a book. Prince of Thorns was absolute shit and I couldn't give a fuck about any character there, bu I powered through. Even through that part where they detonate a nuke by setting fire to it. I finally gave in when some wizardshit tried to probe the edgy main character's head and got scared by the lurking edgyness within. Fuck that.

>>12085802
Didn't make it past the dedication page.

>>12085916
some sjw bullshit about persecution due to gender identities.

>>12086031
Sufficiently Advanced faggotry book?
Yeah, that's the one.

>>12086115
>Even through that part where they detonate a nuke by setting fire to it.
I laughed so fucking hard at this part. The protagonist "convincing" the AI door lock to let him into the nuclear bunker was almost as good.

It gets even better in the next book. The protagonist's castle is under siege so he wins the battle by calling for a parley, pulling out a fucking gun shooting the other general in the face.

The amount of times Mark Lawrence uses technology as a deus ex machina in a mediaeval world setting to get himself out of a tight writing spot he put himself in is hilarious.

>>12086119
Wouldn't make it past the title

>>12086119
>>12086149
It's trash grim derp, read it when I was on a roll reading some nice orc books, stopped after this one though. Edgy garbage to nth.

>>12086147
I completely forgot about the AI part. God damned is he an awful writer

>>12086149
>>12086165
t. pinkskins

>>12084492
is this good? because it sounds good, but every description of the author starts out with "autistic"

>>12085073
dyson spheres were a concept long before Niven, if anything he agreed it was a bad idea, he even wrote that without any metal ore to mine the inhabitants of this gloried zoo could only regress once the civilization that created it died off

>and put them into padded cells because "cannot allow humans to come to harm by inaction".
you watch too many hollywood movies, also the robots in Asimov's books clearly care and can emphasis with humans, they would know locking people up will harm them far more than allowing them freedom. R. Daneel also goes into shock after hitting a robot made up to be a human in one of the foundation prequel books because even though he knows it isn't a real human his positronic brain still wont allow him to hurt a human.

The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress is great but i'll admit he does forces his degenerate sexual life into everything he writes, Stranger in a Strange Land probably being his worst for this. Starship Troopers is great and you're a pleb if you think otherwise

Can someone recommend me a recent published essay belonging to the field of science-fiction studies?

Which sci-fi that is actually good gets really weird? Like, All Tomorrows weird?
Hard mode: no weird sex stuff unless it is at least as degenerate as Teraurge.

>>12086325
Last and First Men by Olaf Stapledon

>>12086367
Add Starmaker too.

>>12086325
Strange Relations by Phillip jose Farmer if you want weird sex stuff,

>>12086325
Stephen Baxter's Evolution

>>12086289
https://emperorponders.blog/2018/11/09/november-9-post-deep-pov/

>>12086488
Damn I was bored 30 seconds in.

>>12086040
those hands have typed hundreds of years of stories

>>12086040
>>12086647
Maybe he's hitting the bottle hard?

>>12086660
don't think Mormons drink

>>12086621
Get a better attention span.

Does anyone remember this scifi novel, I think an old classic, that begins in medias res with the protagonist (I think?) being strapped down to some kind of table, as some people discuss how far to "dial up" his consciousness/brain functions, in various levels, if they want to get information from him? Like, they were suppressing his brain patterns somehow and saying things like
>He won't be able to form complete thoughts and associations until you dial it up to at least level 5
etc.

>>12086668
Maybe it's only for special occasions? Like publishing a new book?

>>12086669
Maybe the subject matter needs improvement?

>>12086682
I'm likely being influenced by the amount of duneposting the past two threads but I distinctly remember something almost exactly like that happening in one of the later Dune books, except instead of dialing it down like the guy suggests they crank it up to 11 and accidentally turn the protagonist into some sort of super-fast murder machine.

>>12086746
Miles Teg I think?

>>12086753
Sounds familiar, it's been ages since I read it though and the later books really didn't hold my interest like the first four did.

>>12086746
Fuck that's even more puzzling because I don't think that's it but I've READ some of the later Dune books.

>>12086682
I know I've read this, but it isn't Dune.
To Live Forever by Jack Vance?

>>12086793
I think it was Emphyrio by Vance actually! Thanks man. Somehow my mind kept trying to remember "Vance-ish writers," with whatever associations that has in my mind with golden/silver age scifi, and coming up with nothing..

>>12086809
np, I thought it had to be Vance

>>12086809
Check out Schuyler Hernstrom if you like Vance.

>>12085934
That's from The Dying Earth, although I have no doubt that Vance drew from the same well (with far more developed skill, btw) when he wrote the Rhialto stories.

I’m interested in writing fantasy and have dabbled a bit, but I’d like to tackle something longer. My problem is I’m constantly coming up with fun conflicts or scenarios (in my mind) for characters to be involved in and so I write them down. So now I have stacks of index cards with places, scenarios, characters etc. Is it a bad process to sort of storyboard a couple of these cards and then fill in the blanks with exposition and segue/general filler?

This book any good? It looks maximum comfy for the current season.

Open to suggestions for other comfy winter books.

>>12086134
Dude on the shoulders of giants? I did the exact same thing, the dedication was incredibly go, so I was like fuck this guy.

>>12087096
Okay let's take a look.
>female author
>female protagonist
>amerimutt (and a Texan to boot) writing about Russian folklore
>part of a trilogy
>YA trash

Anon your balls should have dropped years ago.

>>12087127
She spent a year in Moscow and has a degree in Russian. The other points you listed aren't actual negatives, just memes.

>>12087135
She also spent some time in France, so she probably isn't shaving her armpits too.
I hope you enjoy the memes and let me recommend you something else I think you might enjoy.

>>12087096
I've been thinking about reading it since last winter, will try to get my finger out after finishing this months monthly reading. If you're not in a hurry I can probably come back and tell you about it in about a months time.

>>12087162
Sure, looking forward to it. I still have a couple other things to go through.

>>12085802
I’m pretty sure I got less than 100 pages into Forever War pages before dropping it. Or whenever the main character has his fist battle with aliens and breaks down crying for them after they’re slaughtered.

>>12087158
Die you fucking barneyfag

>>12086264
>Starship Troopers is great and you're a pleb if you think otherwise
>if you don't agree with me you're a pleb
>my tastes are the end all of tastes

>>12084018
The one I'm working on right now is a starting to get complicated...

Essentially, the word in which this novel, novella, series or whatever the fuck I'm going to do with this shit follows a timeline kinda like this:

1) A kind of magitech (I guess you'd call it) is created: A new technology leads to a flow of artificially created particles/whatever enveloping most of the world. This 'flowstream' (as I'll call it for now) can be manipulated in different ways through 'flow' (as I'll call it for now. I might use flow and flowstream interchangeably), but requires different degrees of training to gain greater levels of control; an untrained user would have little to no control, probably (I haven't decided yet) only being able to use flow indirectly. That said, just as most people can learn to play games, most people can be flow trained.

An aspiring user can learn to manipulate flowstream through training in a multi-user VR world formed through a combination of everyone's dreams (literally dreams i.e. the ones you have when you sleep) and just usual mundane programmer designed stuff. Different 'rooms' have different degrees of designed vs dream effect and the amount by which a dream is affected by you vs other users, the number of users in a room, and so on and so forth can vary considerably.

Though not exactly the same since a VR 'dream' isn't quite the same as a sleeping dream, training is a lot like learning to have controlled lucid dreams.
When a user enters the virtual world, they are quite disoriented and unable at first to recall how they got into this world. They don't have control and though it can manifest differently, a typical experience would be them having a sort of dream 'aura' or 'field' that roughly surrounds them composed of their own dream world. They first have to learn to understand they're in a weird dream thing by identifying what's odd about the dream (like how people usually learn to lucid dream). Once they realize they're in the VR dream world, they are always lucid.
They then have to learn to manipulate their VR dream thing through study, willpower training, etc.

There's roughly 4 types of flow: Action, Form, Context, Awareness.
Fairly self-explanatory: Action would be like shooting fire or having super speed; form would be like the user turning into rock; Awareness would be like seeing in the dark or hearing a person's inner voice; context can be a scary wild card power that allows a user to manipulate surroundings or create 'rules' like "all lead floats now" or any sort of otherwise uncategorizable mindfucky power. These are categories not disciplines; they're like X-Men: powers are unique.
Context and awareness are usually the most powerful.

Any way, it's harder to do than in VR, but eventually, they're able to use these powers via the real world flowstream

But a lot of that might just end up as background stuff for me as the writer as this arc takes place after this tech is near lost.
(cont next post)

>>12084378
He is one of the strongest contenders for the throne which is why a major effort was made to sideline him but being overpowered isn't how the rest of book one and series go.

>>12087339
Oh shit its almost class time. Hold on that thought.

>>12087096
Very wintry.
Comfy if you think death is comfy.

>>12085802
It varies. I usually go on until something completely breaks my immersion or offends my intellect. With The Name of the Wind it was when Kvothe (of whatever the fuck his name is) learns what is lengthily described as shorthand on the spot because he's *that* good.

>>12084958
Peter S Beagle
Erin Morgenstern
Jeff Noon
Tim Powers
William Browning

>>12087382
Is this the one with horse fucking?

>>12087400
I mean, the horses do yes. The psychic connection makes the riders horny when that happens, so they tend to get together when the horses do.

>>12084878
So enlighten us, is there actually any furry /lit/ worth reading? When I did a skim of some of the publishers a while back it looked like it was a bit over three quarters of erotica/"probably fetish porn" stuff, and a handful of actual scifi/fantasy stories.

I mean, can't be as bad as the litrpg trash books.

I disliked Elric, hated Rothfuss and I think LOTR is dry as fuck.
Do I abandon fantasy completely? Is there something I can try to give a chance to?

>>12087431
How about you be helpful and say something you like

>>12087399
5 strikes and you're out

>>12087430
>So enlighten us, is there actually any furry /lit/ worth reading?

Kinda? You know you're in for good stuff when author opens with

>Twelve seconds after completing Warrior Wolf Women of the Wasteland I said to myself, “Did I just write a fucking Furry book?” It wasn’t supposed to be my Furry book. It was supposed to be my werewolf book. But I guess werewolves can be considered furries. They were probably the original furries.

>>12087431
Seems like you just hate everything and it doesn't matter what you read.

>>12087440
>>12087489
No idea on fantasy, they've all been stinkers.

For sci-fi, I liked Dune, and a book called Marrow by Robert Reed. I loved Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. I like Gibson's prose a lot.

>>12087472
And excerpts like

>”Howlina draped wolfself over the chesterfield, exposing her pillowy breasts, pleated with her silvery coat. Her pups heaved with anticipation of Reginald’s throbbing red rocket.”

>>12087509
>wolfself
There is no god.

>>12087472
>>12087509
>He is best known as one of the leading authors in the 'Bizarro' movement in underground literature.

no mom you don't understand the deep literary significance of the Spork of DOom.

>>12087509
is this real

>>12087431
Try Dunsany,if you dislike him,then you should give up on reading fantasy

>>12087430
Furry /lit/ doesn't exist.
Have a waifu.

>>12087621
Is this all furry literature amounts to? Cat people? I expected something more colorful and bizarre

>>12087621
Don't give a shit about furries but thanks for posting that image anon. I read the Faded Sun Trilogy over two decades ago and it's what introduced me to scifi, but I haven't been able to remember what it was called or find it again since. I knew the title there was really familiar for some reason.

>>12087621
>”Me-Ow,” she jested. Reginald knew Hestia to be coy, so this foreign behavior intrigued him. Her manner was deeply arousing, and she has sweet cat tits. So he took out his red rocket.

>>12085865
I like Narnia and I'm not Christian at all so he's just the magic lion to me.

>>12087638
I'm not very familiar with furry shit but I'd say part of it stems from the whole power fantasy nature of reimagining yourself as a badass wolf-man or lynx-woman or whatever. Canine/feline fursonas are like the homogenous "mostly-straight white middle class" of the furry community, seems like you only see herbivores picked by women (submissive deer/bunny girls) or gay bear types.

But anyways it's like the whole "Indian Spirit Animal" thing, everybody wants to have the soul of the mighty bison/hawk/panther/wolf/etc but you don't see people going "yah bro got these tribal armband tats after a shaman at the reservation told me I have the soul of a bluejay", no, they lie through their teeth and say the old man said "wolf."

>>12087064
Sounds fine. Whatever works for you. There are as many different approaches to writing as there are writers.

>>12086923
Nice try Schuyler.

>>12087621
Not muh Hestia.

>>12085802
the first paragraph

If you meant literature written by furries I can't help you, just have books with furries in them. That and cats are my thing, sorry.
>>12087644
np, glad to help

>>12087638
>>12087862
I can't do it right

>>12085813
>WoT: I thought book one was super derivative. Tried book two a couple times but couldn't stand the prose. Going to try one more time tho I'm extremely doubtful.
>GURM: Enjoyed 1-3, dropped book 4 and the series
>Name of the Wind: I read the intro parts about the bar and finding the spider. Dropped it before he could start rambling on about his backstory because I could tell from the set up that I wouldnt care
>Gardens of the Moon: dropped after intro and a chapter. I can't into grimderp

I like other fantasy but these super popular epics aren't doing it for me. I've only read a page of Final Empire and it seems ok.

>reading wheel of time
>it's okay but determined to finish it
>watch gladiator
>Re-read Masters of Rome again
>6 months later still haven't gotten back to wheel of time
>want to reread Masters of Rome again
Is it true the Seanchan are modelled after Rome? Will this be a happy compromise?

>>12087862

>>12084848
>Because modern SF isn't really that popular.
The sign of a dying culture.

>>12087963
>Is it true the Seanchan are modelled after Rome?
They're not. They're multiracial Japanese Texans.

>>12087339
Oh wait wrong thread.
You know what? Nevermind this is too long and overly detailed any way. I'll just make another thread later.

>>12087979
Do you think if I tell her that she makes me throb I would be brought up on rape charges?

>>12088076
Nothing ventured, anon...

How are the altered carbon books?
How similar is the 1st one to the show?

>>12088112
If you're 16 years old you'll love them.

is there a "right" way to write a character learning to use magic in a universe where anyone can learn it?

My mc's education is supposed to start with a simple fire spell, and I'm trying to think of what his training should entail. All I know is, it has to involve drawing on a mental/emotional sensation of warmth in some way. maybe some kind of weird meditative thing where he has to imagine his lungs are bellows stoking a coal fire while controlling his breathing?

Just finished the most recent book in the Spiral Wars
Holy shit what a space opera
The writing can be a tad clunky occasionally but the storytelling and the worldbuilding are great, and the characters are interesting as well

>>12084845
I've been reading the Witcher books lately, does the translation change things much.

>>12088428
Sell me on this.

>>12085802
Dropped a book called Fatemarked like 3 chapters in when the book explained the worst magical communication system I've ever seen used in a fantasy novel and then have the characters state how easily accessible and useful it is when in practice it sounds fucking awful.
Dropped the last Mistborn book because it was just so ughhh wish I'd dropped the 2nd because that was a slog too.
Dropped the third locke lamora book because I could no longer give a shit and didn't give a fuck about the big romance because I was just fucking tired about hearing how this manlet couldn't even get hard to fuck a whore over two books.
Dropped Raymond E.Feists books because they're so badly sated and I could have written them.
Dropped the Anthony Ryans books after blood song the plot was shit, the first novel should have been a stand alone with an open ending or he should have spent more time planning the sequels because the 2nd just felt rushed and I didn't bother with the third.
Dropped Brent Weeks Black Prism because i think the magic system is shit and the main character is fat.

>>12088605
>the main character is fat
Mean.

>>12088609
Dude grew up in a poverty stricken village and selling scraps of magical glass he scavenged on the battlefield for food but he is fat. Why, why did the author do this, why is he fat. how is he fat.

>>12088428
I like that the aliens in it are actually interesting for "space opera aliens." They're not totally alien, but they're certainly a step above the usual Star Trek Rubber Foreheads.

>>12088582
Okay so basically it's the end of Space WW3 that's lasted 100 years and so on, humanity and it's allies are victorious, etc. The crew of a flagship returns home for the parades and so on, but a conspiracy in the human government murders their admiral, so they mutiny and go running off to try and avenge him, but end up getting dragged into a much larger conspiracy involving the return of the berserker AIs that once ruled the universe but were defeated by a biological uprising during a civil war between machine factions.

It's really more of a adventure series where most of the characters are in the military, rather than a "military scifi" series. And like I said the aliens are neat.

Rape, you say?

>>12085802
I just stop reading once it starts feeling like a chore.

>>12088663
Is this the Berserk of fantasy books?

>>12088623
>Americans eating shit food are all skinny
If you didn't drop the book you would have found out how he was fat.

>>12088663
Lack of rape.

>>12088582
Galaxy is fucking old, races in it are fucking old, history is a big lie, humans get enslaved by a hive mind race and Earth gets chemical warfared into extinction but come back to genocide the fuck out of the hive minds and then humans get unleashed on the universe mad as hell
Book series follows the events surrounding one ship, it gets crazy
Go read Renegade and if you're not hooked I'll suck my own dick on livestream

>>12088542
Yes. English translation comes off as VERY generic fantasy.

>>12087496
book of the new sun
>>12087963
how have i never heard of masters of rome? ive been here forever and this is the first ive seen someone mention it

>>12088112
Decent cyberpunk with a few annoyingly over described sex scenes.
The show changed some major plot points so it's different enough that it's worth it to read the book.

>>12084378
How is the prose in this?
I have never read anything by Zelazny but I like the premise of this series.

>>12088731
I'm not american.

Are the disgusting furries gone?

>>12084993
I'd totally fuck the ship Al-Buraq from PJF's The Unreasoning Mask

Marathoned the first 10 pages of Prince of Nothing and it seems kind of boring desu. When does it get good?

>>12089317
>Marathoned 10 pages
?

>>12089333
The book is that much of a slog anon.

What order should Sharpe be read in? is publication order fine, i watched the films when i was little if that makes a difference.

>>12084993
>Would you fuck an elf if presented with one, or something close to it?
eh
>Would you fuck an extraterrestrial being that has an orifice that can be a pseudo vagina, if presented with one?
Most definitely

>>12089211
Give me a rundown

>>12089164
Did I say or imply you were?

>>12089336
Read all the books then come back and talk about a slog. You know nothing anon.

>>12089317
>>12089336
>>12089558
>tfw meme'd myself into reading this based on pic related
Just thought, "What a gnarly image from an epic fantasy," but then it turned into the slog of slogs.

>>12089631
Egads!
The wiki entry reads like some shitty anime.

>>12089014
>Masters of Rome
It's not sff. Unless you count great men being the favourites of Fortuna fantasy.

>>12088663
Is there even any rape in this? Miles is a fucking cuck.

>“To paraphrase Oedipus, Hamlet, Lear, and all those guys, "I wish I had known this some time ago.”

>>12084993
I would fuck just about anything at this point in my life.

>>12089558
Read all the books? I am not as foolish as you anon to put it politely. One look at his blog (and he was in a middle of an internet bitch fight with some feminazi then) was all it took to drop him.

>>12085802
usually if i get past the first 100 pages it means i'll finish it

>>12089826
>(and he was in a middle of an internet bitch fight with some feminazi then)
Wtf? I love Bakker now!

>>12089317
from the start. the prologue a based.
but then yeah, it gets a bit slow while it's "achamian investigates" for a while until they start gathering and marching to war

>>12088112
i liked the books but coudln't get past the first two episodes of the tv series. the books are much better

my copy of The Eye of the World is about to arrive, frens

>>12089703
This.

>>12089108
Zelazny is both a pulp author and a reasonably well-read poet, so it's lowbrow with some highbrow sprinkled in. The narrator's voice is similar to a hard-boiled detective novel – first person, cocky, world-weary. Descriptions are mostly matter-of-fact and even blasé, but then there are sections where the characters go on journeys through multiple universes and it goes on for pages and pages describing surreal landscapes. Towards the end the narrator's voice becomes humbler and more 'metaphysical,' hard to explain. It has most of the flaws of typical late 60's and early 70's pulp, but it's way better.

>>12089703
Anything?

>>12089880
His student’s death was top tier kino tho

>>12089966
Literally just fellowship of the ring only Gandalf has tits.

>>12088605
>they're so badly sated
?

>>12088731
But he would have had to deal with all that vagina shit

>>12084993
anon you know what they say about monster girls right?
the monster is only on the outside ;_;

>>12090099
When is that faggot Weeks releasing the last book? It was supposed to be out August.

>>12090102
But a corpse or zombie girl will ha e putrid insides.

>>12090109
Didn't you hear? He is expanding the series to 8 books.

>>12090207
.... It was a trilogy first. Then he said "people misquoted him and it's actually a quintology"... Now I wonder what's his excuse for making it an Octology..

>>12090338
A fucking proctology more like. I'm dropping it. The brown gate is closed.

>>12088605
>I could have written them
Big talk from the unpublished literary genius over here.

>>12090011
This is why we invented plastic bags

>>12089966
It should make a decent doorstop at least.

What is the sci fi/fantasy equivalent of One Hundred Years Of Solitude?

>>12090011
Anon do you really need to post ancient memes from /mtfgay?

>>12089211
Most of PJF aliens are pretty fuckable

>>12090664
Throne of Glass.

>>12089966
RIP

>>12090819
Tell me about these hot aliens

>>12090832
They have big asses,and most of them only want to breed and give birth to lots of babies (and maybe have sex with them when they grow up)

>>12090848
babies are not hot, wtf

>>12090868
>He doesn't want to impregnate an cute alien
Wew

What some good sff books about girls with thick eyebrows?

>>12090868
>on 4chan
>doesn't have a pregnancy fetish
What did anon mean by this?

>>12090932
I have 99 fetishes but pregnancy ain't one

>>12090939
Cringe and bluepilled

>>12089333
The absolute state of /lit/

>>12090950
A future KU author right here everyone with that level of an articulate response.

>>12084876
You might like these better then. It does cover how different and complicated space combat can be(albeit from the perspective of a jarhead being told a dumbed down explanation from a super AI)

>>12090939
So you have shit taste then. It is the best fetish to have. It is the one fetish that puts you an at least 'acceptable' level. You could fantasize giants balloon women that shit all over you from their dick nipples but you wouldn't bee seen as a disgusting degenerate for wanting to impregnate them. Well yeah you'd still be a degenerate, but not a subhuman.

>>12089108
His prose is one of the main reasons i read Zelazny. (Yes the shadow walks run longer than they should but they're skippable.)

Any sci fi with interesting over the top characters like Metal Gear villains? I just finished The Thing Itself and there was a bit of it, but I'm looking for something that will have more political intrigue next

>>12090803
>Anon do you really need to post ancient memes from /mtfgay?
It's because I made that particular meme, and it was in tablet when I posted.

>>12090848
>and maybe have sex with them when they grow up)
Sold. I heard PJF was a GRI man for years, but you just sold me on him.

>>12091254
Shieeet nigga Dollface is someone from antiquity. I don't even recognize the other dude.
If you could do me a solid and pretend you are normal, I'll be grateful. I never should have started posting those traps from /fit.

>>12090982
>So you have shit taste then. It is the best fetish to have
It's literally one step from inflation

kys

>>12091228
Really good over the top or silly over the top?

Cause I got Warhammer recommendations for both categories.
>Good Over the top
The Beast series. Honestly the best part isn't even the war, but the political machinations of the High Lords.

>Silly Over the top
Skavenslayer. Any Skaven character.

>>12091266
That's pregnant fetish you buffoon. Pregnancy is before that. It's impregnation! The moment the sperm hits the egg and for once all that jizz gets put to its actual use.

So not only do you have shit taste, you're dumb as bricks. Is there anything at all redeeming about you? Anything that validates your continued use of my oxygen?

>>12090067
this
>>12089966
skip the middle 200 pages

Does anyone have a recommendation for a book similar to the Witcher: Thronebreaker game?

A story of a leader being forced into exile or otherwise rendered helpless, only to travel the lands, gathering support and companions, to later return for vengeance / justice.

There are a lot of LotR-style stories with a smaller party but I can't think of one with a full army.

>>12091425
Warlord chronicles has this somewhat.

>>12091436
>Warlord chronicles

Thanks, putting it on my tablet. I liked the Sharpe stuff so this might be right up my alley.

>>12091452
Not fantasy but there’s also the Bruce trilogy.

>>12091057
The shadow runs were great tbqh

>>12091289
Well excuse me for not grasping the subtleties of your crappy fetish!

>>12091425
Waylander by Gemmell
Conan

>>12091595
Mah nigga

>>12091481
It is inexcusable. You deny the most basic purpose of your existence! You are a stain the the gene pool and would be better off feeding some predator than wasting another moment contributing to the heat death of the universe with your continued metabolism.

>>12091618
Fuck off nigger. You were not funny before and you are certainly not funny now.

Anyone got some good examples of cosmic fantasy? I got nothing outside of Age of Sigmar and that's all kinda meh besides Realmslayer

>>12091642
This stopped being funny long ago wastrel.

>>12091651
The Eternal Champion Sequence/Tale of the Eternal Champion by Michael Moorcock

>>12091655
Cry some more.

>>12091651
World of Tiers by /ourguy/ Phillip Jose Farmer,though is a bit more sci-fi than fantasy

>>12091691
>>12091757
Would you say these are good examples for making an alien world? I'm brainstorming a book I might write but I'm still trying to figure out how I will establish the setting without it being too jarring.

>>12091848
World of tiers has some fun and interesting worldbuilding.
eternal champion has more character driven plot so it doesn't focus much on the worlds,still pretty good though

>>12085073
>Asimov's three laws would cause robots to drop everything, ignore all orders from humans, tie them up, gag them, and put them into padded cells because "cannot allow humans to come to harm by inaction"

You haven't read enough Robot stories. Asimov carefully explains each and every law and its implications. There's a story where the robots act a bit like you say, but only because their laws were modified.

>>12085347
I think I'll pass. I don't need my interest in steampunk or sci-fi dismantled.

>>12091265
I am normal. The dude said he would fuck anything. So I asked if he was gay enough to fuck an anorexic tranny, and a chubby guy in a wig.

Traps are gay as fuck dude. Some a nice too look at, but then you see the dick and you nope. It's like when that trap in Prince of Nothing revealed their power level.

>>12087979
If you mean society isn't looking forward to the future anymore, then I agree with you.

Recommend me some uplifting newer sci-fi pls.

>>12087963
Absolutely based. HF > sffag

>>12084983
>Sundiver

Speaking of which how are Uplift books?

Is Joe Abercrombie's work YA?

>>12092296
He has written YA before, if that's what you're asking. But most of it isn't.

>>12092303
I should have been more specific, is The First Law YA?

>>12092314
No.

>>12092314
No,but only edgy teens like it

My eBook copy of Lord of Light has the text entirely in bold. Is this normal, or should I look for a new copy?

Anybody got a epub of Super Sales 3?

>>12088428

I started Renegade and thought I stumbled into someone from /tg/ successfully getting their Humanity Fuck Yeah story published.

Time for Boxxy to Summon a Demon Lord.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A67ZkAd1wmI

Can somebody recommend me some good contemporary /sffg/-flavoured horror? I've already read Firefall by Watts

>>12084958
Vasili Golovachov

>>12092467
Mine isn't in bold.

I'm looking for a book that a read a few years ago that I really enjoyed. It takes place far into the future and humanity has lost a war with these old aliens and they've been shaped into fucked up ugly different species and it reads more like a history book giving out dates and how certain species of exo human evolved with their fucked up genetics and the planet they were left on.

>>12093496

All Tomorrows

>>12093496
Also check out "Man After Man."

>>12093502
Fucking thank you man

Name of the wind is staying pretty good, though it's down from "This is the best thing I've read in months" to "this is a legitimately fun book that I want to spend extra time reading".

I am starting to get frustrated with Kvoth's impulsiveness though. It hits too close to home

>>12093553
dont expect anything significant to happen

>>12093553
Rothfuss is a fat hack and kvoth becomes even worse once it gets to the awful romance. Despite that the series is a comfy read and i dont think it deserves the level of hate it gets here. There are unironic sanderfags here after all

>>12093553
People who hate it generally hate it from the first chapter because they can't take Kvothe's ego. If it doesn't phase you then people tend to like it. Not a lot of middle ground when it comes to Rothfuss. The second book though is a different animal. I still overall enjoyed it, but it was frustrating compared to the first.

>>12086682
Was it one Cherryh's Alliance-Union books? They had clones that they thought programmed to be subhuman in those I think.

>>12093765
Yeah, but I don't remember any of the clones being debriefed like that.

>>12086660
>ya threw me for a loop there, officer

>>12087963
your post made ME want to reread masters of rome, such an awesome read

>>12094262
>>12094262
>>12094262
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