/lit/ - Literature

It's all born of solipsism. They can't know what it's like to be a woman or a Jew so they can't be sure of their motives or beliefs or capabilities

Tradition

>>12065027
Ressentiment. Despite being such a small minority Jews, thanks to their superior intelligence and the emphasis their culture places on education, have always found a way to succeed in any endeavor and live comfortably (that is, when they're not being persecuted). This success often upsets the gentiles.

>>12065027
maybe that Jews have been acting like dicks for 3000 years op

>>12065027
Jews have been in Europe for over one thousand years and still to this day haven't intergrated. They are tribalistic and use host nations for their own gain.
>>12065090
>Since recorded history jews have been kicked out of countriess and persecuted, almost all ove the world
>Nothing to do with the behaviour of Jews, bro! Jews good boys, din du nuffin.

>>12065027
you know that kid who you tried to be nice to and invite him to parties. he was a little weird, but you thought maybe he would want to join your clique, but he kept saying no thanks? eventually you suspected he thought he was better than you, and nothing pisses people off more than that. the jews have been that stuck up kid forever. if there is selection over time for being cool with apartness (as those that merge as no longer jews), this only gets worse over time. but with ever greater numbers of people rejecting religious identification the jews will probably finally assimilate themselves out of existence within a few generations, so this problem may largely finally solve itself except for the remnant ultrareligious

>>12065096
>Nothing to do with the behaviour of Jews
Consider the possibility that ressentiment is common.

>>12065027
The main point is that Jews are different. They look different, have different names, speak a different language, go to the synagogue instead of to church, have their sabbath on Saturday instead of Sunday, and so on and so forth. So already that marks them out as different. In times of trouble people are really only willing to help those who they can identify with, and because Jews are not "one of them" they are disliked.

This widespread dislike affects the political position of the Jews. They have to attach themselves to local rulers for protection, and sometimes have to do their dirty work for them. When the people have had enough of whatever oppression their rulers are dishing out, they revolt and throw out both their rulers and their cronies, including the Jews.

>>12065027
Certainly it CANNOT EVER be because there's truth to it

AT ALL

I hate to be that guy but there’s a board for history discussion >>>/his/

>>12065116
The only jews to ever be of note are European jews, many of whom are euro mutts. Yet Jews have been kicked out and persecuted long before they arrived to Europe. Even in Asia and Africa they were persecuted, and always for the same reasons.
Sounds like you're inventing a fantasy of rightousness, a means to remove responsibility for your actions and blame the other. It's not us, the Jews, it's everyone else!

>>12065145
omg wrongthink

Jews don't have a home so they care fuck all what they do except if it hurts their own people, of course this don't apply to every individual and all those bollocks.

>>12065128
This, and also consider this:
Differences set the stage for conflict, and that's the case for both more rooted and established ethnic groups and semi-nomadic dispersed groups like Jews.
If Jews had their own state proper, they're come into conflict with their neighbors every so often, and seen as pretty neutral to those that weren't their neighbors. Ukrainians and Poles might have/still do hate one another, but it's really not an "anti-ism" because that's the norm.
Jews, dispersed everywhere and still different, are going to be in conflict with LOTS of people at the same time. It's quite normal.

>How odd of God
>To choose the Jews

OP want to ask another question
Can there be difference without hierarchy?

>>12065090
Jews have never seen the levels of success that they experience today, now that we’ve opened our institutions to them and have criminalized prejudice against them. There was nothing to be jealous of back during the times of Heidegger, Schopenhauer, etc.

>>12065153
>Sounds like you're inventing a fantasy of rightousness, a means to remove responsibility for your actions and blame the other. It's not us, the Jews, it's everyone else!
So this is what peak irony looks like

>Be Jew
>Have no homeland
>Band together cause gotta survive
>People go : Hmm weirdos, kick them out

Today

>Be jew
>Know people always kick you out
>Through nepotism infiltrate the government and the medias
>Try to turn country into one where you couldn't be expelled
>People get mad

They're only looking out for themselves but that either attracts attention or resentment.

Antisemitism had been and is the default throughout time across the world. Anti-anti-semitism is something the West came up with after WW2.

People are naturally suspicious of outsiders and in Europe Jews have been the main group of outsiders that was always moving in and fucking with things. And the gypsies of course, but Jewish tricks were more of a threat to society than the more outright simple crimes of gypsies.

>>12065259
We jewz gud boyz, we dindu nuffin! Dem whiteys jus hattas!

Jews was to Europe what niggers are to the US. A visible minority, easy to blame for whatever ails you.

Except jews are more like sandniggers today, in that they were mostly merchants, and some become very wealthy, because they couldn't own land.

If you can't manage to finish secondary education or get a gf today, it's obviously because of pakis and streetshitters.


If you were a loser 19th century redneck, clearly all your problems were caused by niggers, rather than your landlord and your own destitute insobriety.

And when your crop failed in the 12th century, it was obviously all because of a global jewish conspiracy involving Satanic rituals and child sacrifice. Not that you're a lazy drunk.

People are morons and nothing ever changes.

Jews have been a problem and a plague upon their hosts from the very beginning.

>>12065560
>If you were a loser 19th century redneck, clearly all your problems were caused by niggers, rather than your landlord and your own destitute insobriety.
Both are the problem.

>>12065237
There's nothing to be jealous of now. Jews are ugly, inbred, sneaky liars who think they have divine right to control other's nations. Everyone has always hated them.

>>12065027
Most people are only going to look at supposed evidence so long as it helps them reinforce their self image, that's all there really is to it. The people who flaunt black IQ tests to explain their difference economic status are the same antisemites who cover their ears whenever Jewish intelligence is mentioned. Anyone who performs worse is just biologically inferior, while anyone who performs better is just cheating and not genuinely more capable. It's the xbox kid mentality. Losers are all retards and winners are all hackers, except for me.

>>12065638
>difference
difference in

>>12065090
>>12065050
>>12065039
>>12065027
>HUUHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGNNN UH FUCK YEA UHH YEA I FUCKING LOVE JEWS
just keep ignoring the fact that jews in pre WWII poland owned something like 20% of the wealth

I dont hate jews, but this whole "WE WUZ GOOD BOYS!!1" shit is just ridiculous. There have been reasons historically why certain groups of people would have reason to hate jews.

didnt they also support the rhodesian government for a while? werent they implicated in chemically castrating non white jews? Arent they also involved in recolonization efforts in the west bank to drive out the natives?

>muh poor jews
yea fuck off

>>12065638
>The people who flaunt black IQ tests to explain their difference economic status are the same antisemites who cover their ears whenever Jewish intelligence is mentioned. Anyone who performs worse is just biologically inferior
I love how you've used a piece of evidence you will subsequently deny
so which is it friend? are jews superior because of IQ and thus blacks inferior because of IQ? or is it jews are just ahead because of privilege?

hmm this really gets the noggin joggin

>kicked out of n-hundred nations n-hundred times
>everyone else is the problem

>>12065646
>just keep ignoring the fact that jews in pre WWII poland owned something like 20% of the wealth
I'm totally willing to hate wealthy people, but even if the set of all wealthy people and the set of all jews are coextensive, my hatred isn't going to be predicated upon their judaism; it's just going to be a matter of their wealth.

>>12065655
>I love how you've used a piece of evidence
No, I haven't. I don't think IQ tests are valuable. All I've shown is people who use them as evidence... subsequently deny it. Go re-read the post.

>>12065674
So then jews are clearly over represented in literally ALL upper tiers of society and you thus support them being ranked lower in admissions processes because of their ethnicity?
>>12065667
>my hatred isn't going to be predicated upon their Judaism; it's just going to be a matter of their wealth.
why are you surprised then when they largely are coextensive, that people connect the two traits and take their anger out on that group of people

>>12065692
>why are you surprised then when they largely are coextensive, that people connect the two traits and take their anger out on that group of people
because those same people will lick the boots of any white who becomes rich while waving a "don't tread on me" flag around

>>12065692
They're economically overrepresented, but that doesn't mean they have every advantage a white person does.

>>12065692
Not him, but he should reformat his argument. The problem with jews is not they are smart or wealthy, but that they are deceptive and dishonest and use whatever power they acquire against the host nation. Whites are very high trust and accommodating, so when we see this type of behavior from jews the normal reaction is the one employed for centuries, and is about to be again: we kick them the fuck out.

>>12065716
>Whites are very high trust and accommodating
Yes, like when they accommodated all those slaves they brought over. The morality of any group of people almost always has more to do with the time period you're looking at and not the race you're examining. Nurture beats nature.

>>12065743
Jews brought those slaves over.

>>12065711
>They're economically overrepresented
which would make them privileged!
>but that doesn't mean they have every advantage a white person does.
yea jews are just in a special class bro where they get the best of both worlds!
THOSE POOR POOR JEWS! being so smart (IQ wise :^) ) yet so so oppressed!111
can you fuck off sycophant. Doesnt it seem a little slimy to you to pull this kind of argument

>>12065743
>Nurture beats nature.
It absolutely does not, despite whatever liberal fairy tale you want to believe in

>>12065751
>"Below is a listing of jewish ships"
>not a listing of all ships
Re-read my post. I said whites brought slaves over, not that jews didn't. Jews bringing slaves over is consistent with, and infact supports my claim that the culture of the time period is a stronger determining factor than race. Your image only shows that jews did, not that whites didn't, and even if not a single white person could afford to bring slaves over, the fact that they were willing to purchase them means that whites not sailing themselves is merely a product of their difference economic status and not their difference in moral structure.

>>12065807
>which would make them privileged!
Yeah, it does. That's what I'm saying. They have economic privileges over whites. Whites have social privileges by being the majority. I'm really, really sorry if anything more complicated than a boolean "is or is-not privileged" is too much for you to understand.

>THOSE POOR POOR JEWS! being so smart (IQ wise :^) )
That's exactly what I didn't say; I directly stated that I don't think IQ tests are valuable in >>12065674. You're just being convenience-minded, as foretold in my original post here: >>12065638.

>>12065807
>counterpoint: no it's not
mmm grayons

>>12065830
>I'm really, really sorry if anything more complicated than a boolean "is or is-not privileged" is too much for you to understand.
well I'm really, really sorry to inform you that that's how these privilege rules are applied socially in universities and businesses! So despite whatever politician like non answer you provide, society doesn't appear to conform to your interpretation!

so then someone like you would be against using "privilege" as a means of ranking people in society and industry whatsoever correct? Since you seem to be saying that its simply so multi-faceted that we cannot possibly provide one "boolean" answer?

>Whites have social privileges by being the majority.
You also forgot to mention that Jews have privilege by being disproportionately represented in the government and in the higher social classes.

>>12065102
>eventually you suspected he thought he was better than you, and nothing pisses people off more than that.

normies do that shit all the time, fuck off

>>12065810
Jews were the main party responsible for bringing slaves to the Americas, they are the historic slaver/merchant class.

>>12065865
>so then someone like you would be against using "privilege" as a means of ranking people in society and industry whatsoever correct?
It isn't that hard to identify when the word "privilege" is just shorthand for "net-privilege." Using it the way you claim society does doesn't mean you cant interpret it as multifaceted.

>You also forgot to mention that Jews have privilege by being disproportionately represented in the government and in the higher social classes.
Except I've repeatedly told you I don't deny this. That's essentially economic privilege, sorry if you'dve rather further divided that category up.

>politician like non answer
Are you kidding me? You've done pretty much nothing but try and sling zingers around. The fact that you can't gain any ground doesn't make me a politician.

>>12065900
>counterpoint: I'm going to just flatly state the opposite
mmm so many grayons

only sephardic jews (the ones from europe) and ashkenazi are the intelligent ones, the rest have average iq, so it depends really

>>12065902
>Except I've repeatedly told you I don't deny this. That's essentially economic privilege, sorry if you'dve rather further divided that category up.
Its not economic privilege. Positions of societal power does not necessarily equate to economic privilege.
>It isn't that hard to identify when the word "privilege" is just shorthand for "net-privilege." Using it the way you claim society does doesn't mean you cant interpret it as multifaceted.
Oh, so whites just have more net privilege arbitrarily then? I love how you can just pick and choose what is privilege and what isn't. Im sorry anon, I dont have the advanced masters in oppression studies like you. Care you explain your system of hierarchy to us untouchables?
>whites are ahead by privilege
>jews are ahead by talent
are jews generally ahead by privilege or generally ahead by talent? and whites?
>Are you kidding me? You've done pretty much nothing but try and sling zingers around.
And all youve pretty much done is affirm that you will use privilege in whatever way you please in order to rank people socially
disgusting.
>>12065907
>NO U!

>>12065027
The Europeans of antiquity hated Jews because their religious beliefs forbade them from participating in normal European life. They were always outsiders and small in number and so were a perfect scapegoat for those in power.

>>12065925
Ashkenazim are the "European" jews, meaning they are genetically half Italian from Roman times. Sephardim are jews who lived and jewed in the middle east so they are less European and more swarthy. Ashkenazim are also 90% of the jewish population. 100% of future jewish population is pic related.

>>12065960
>scapegoat
No one buys this narrative anymore, rabbi. Jews are aggressive tribal outsiders who are hostile to everyone they come into contact with. It is always their fault when they are purged and driven out.

>>12065965
>. Sephardim are jews who lived and jewed in the middle east

wrong!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephardi_Jews

>originally from Sepharad, Spain or the Iberian peninsula, are a Jewish ethnic division. They established communities throughout areas of modern Spain and Portugal, where they traditionally resided, evolving what would become their distinctive characteristics and diasporic identity, which they took with them in their exile from Iberia beginning in the late 15th century to North Africa, Anatolia, the Levant, Southeastern and Southern Europe, as well as the Americas

why are y'all acting anti-Semitic on here don't y'all know that jews are god's chosen people.

>>12065946
>And all youve pretty much done
You're trying really hard to copy my wording there pal.

>are jews generally ahead by privilege or generally ahead by talent?
They aren't ahead. You aren't getting it. Being ahead by occupation isn't the same as having a better or more privileged life.

I just don't understand anti-Semites

>>12066015
Because you don't understand semites.

plus that attack on a jewish temple won't even wake people up my god

um yes I do

>>12066019
so you're saying that being an antisemite is just a matter of not liking semites? Isn't that just vain contrarianism? I'd almost rather it were genuinely based off of not liking jews.

I PROUDILY SUPPORT THE JEWISH PEOPLE

>>12066012
>They aren't ahead. You aren't getting it. Being ahead by occupation isn't the same as having a better or more privileged life.
>i wont let you pin me down with any concrete belief!1
>just let me discriminate against you goy!
You refuse to explain your belief system, or answer questions.

so let me get this straight you would just want to attack and hate jews for no reason when you could instead love and support the jews the antisemetic logic baffles me

>>12066051
>"Your life is not your job"
>I DON'T UNDERSTAND

plus a lot of anti-Semites seem to say that they love god but when in fact they are going against god

and why are anti semites going against god CAUSE JEWS ARE GOD'S PEOPLE.

wow did I scare everyone off lol sorry

>>12066060
>So who has more privilege?
>"you see, privilege is a very complicated issue that cannot be pinned down to any one thing"
>yes but society acts on a hierarchy of privilege so how would in your worldview rank ethnicity and why?
>"I cant believe you don't understand!"
nobody is fooled here

>>12066087
I'm still here and I'm sure the guy with the brianlet jpegs is too.

lol

i'm sorry for getting fired up i'm just a very very strong jewish supporter

>>12066089
>yes but society acts on a hierarchy of privilege
Which is not the same as what occupation you hold. You can't seriously believe someone's life is more a privilege to live than another based solely off their occupation. It isn't as though rich people never do things like commit suicide.

>>12066035
It's not about whites disliking jews, it's about whites realizing how much jews hate them.

fuck all of you jew haters

based jews brought us civilisation, literature and jesus christ

>>12066133
Jews have destroyed every civilization since Sumer.

>>12066105
when did I ever say that? What are you even talking about. I think you've misinterpreted my point.
>You can't seriously believe someone's life is more a privilege to live than another based solely off their occupation.
so then you DO NOT believe in ranking peoples privilege based on ethnicity?

>>12065090
So anti-semitism is rational

>>12066055
>for no reason

>>12066055
>>12066467
>ressentiment

Reminder and lesson here: Nietzsche used the above word to describe JEWS, yet jews always try to use it as a go to to describe how the mean goyim are just jealous of jews.

This is jewish projection 101 in action: taking something that describes them or their behavior then turning around and accusing the goyim of that very thing.

I'm still trying to figure out the psychological purpose of this behavior, but think it's part of their crypsis strategy.

CTRL + F "Usury"

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Bhahahhahahah this board is intellectualy bankrupt

CTRL + F
"Bible"
"Qu'ran"
"Torah"
"Veda"
"Sumerian"
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Holy shit this is actually insane

>>12065237
>there was nothing to be jealous of in Heidegger’s day when 1/4 of French and British elite bourgeois families were Jewish and Jews were only rivaled by Anglos in financial supremacy and Jewish physicists were building the groundwork for QM
ok
>>12065329
Its not at all lol