/lit/ - Literature

Women: People?

Men: Eople?

>>12042739
That question has been answered since the dawn of time: "No"

What should philosophy be?

>>12042735
How can a world continue with dwindling resources and ever increasing population?

how do we live in tolerance together :)

>>12042735
whomstdve wherst?

>>12042735
Is democracy as good as the West makes it out to be? What are its failures?

>>12042739
Aristotle got it right millennia age

are traps gay?

y no gf

>>12042767
DONT STEAL MY MEMES

how to solve tfwnogf

>>12042735
are Gen-Z capable of taking anything seriously?

>>12042735
Why the fuck are the only people who seem to have a genuine interest in philosophy the same ones who make these kind of threads on some nip basket weaving image board?

I'm fond of : what will we do with ourselves when machines can do everything? Will civilization collapse or will everything be cheap and plentiful?

It's more than just a question for economics, because it also has to do with the meaning and value of work. People feel that working gives them purpose. If nobody has to work or can work then the situation is drastically altered.

>>12042735
How can we be authentic in this age of social media?

>>12042735
If god wanted me to be straight then why did he place my g-spot in my anus?

>>12043030
If god wanted you to be straight why did he give you such a fine fuckable ass?

>>12042735
Women and minorities: should they be tolerated?

>>12043000
This doesn't take into account all of the people who blissfully refuse to work, or do not have to. Will this question take these people into account?

Post-work is an interesting idea.

>>12042735
no nut november or nut everyday november?

>>12043000
population will severely drop. people still define themselves by their job, all the useless bullshit jobs/managers who know nothing else will disappear

>>12042735
Who was phone?

>>12042902
this desu

>>12042794
1 that's the wrong question 2 the answer to the right question is "not necessarily"

How do we get from "ought" to "is"?

>>12043000
Everyone gets personal a.i.s that can produce anything if given the needed raw input and government a.i. are in charge of producing energy and extracting base materials, and it will distribute these fairly. At that point we just live in a post scarcity society where production is higher than ever because of automation.
Idk what our purpose would be at that point. We lose the last things that made us feel special, our industriousness and eventually our intellect. Maybe we just accept that we aren't special in those last ways just like everything else. Maybe we desperately fuse with machines to reclaim it.

how can we systematically kill m*les most efficiently

>>12042739
Not on our level.

>>12042759
Sounds like more of a anthropological issue no?

>>12042735
How are we going to deal with the rising un- and underemployment of huge shares of the population in the following decades from automation?

>>12043515
A little from column A a little from Column B.

Mass migration will become a bigger thing as time goes on and lack of food yields desolation, climate destruction will happen and people will become affected. When a large portion of a population (s) enter into a land that is already fighting for resources, what will happen to those people?

>>12043538

Trade work.

>>12042783
This has been looked at since Plato's time. The most glaring problem of democracy is when a majority of a country's citizens aren't fit to make judgements on politics one way or another. and when you get into mitigating this potential problem, you almost inevitably force the democracy into something else.

What effects could the internet and global communication have on the individual and society at large

Where are we going to end up at the end of all this? Why are we driven for the mediocre results in life?

>>12043000
by then deep-dive-vr-like shit will be so advanced we’ll spend all our time living like the old days or in some fantasy world

>>12043538
Seize the means of production.

Should PC exist?

What's the answer to the incel question?

>>12043674
blood

>>12043037

Is democracy inherently flawed? Ancient Greeks seemed to think so.

>>12042735
Why not acceleration?

Will there be any value or meaning left for humans to seek out if all is inevitably subject to technological advancement?

>>12043801
No

>>12042735
Watch Hjernevask and read Spengler.

>>12043727
I think those Enlightment guys solved that one with the constitutional republic idea.

>>12043801
No shit

>>12043727
Read Cicero.

>>12043970
I don't trust people who lie for a living.

>>12043982
but he doesn't live

>>12043440
Be Kant. Then they must be the same.

Will it be possible for the way of the world to change again once everything had been cemented in the amber of digital immortality?

What is the optimal arrangement of existence? Does such a thing exist, and if so, what are its properties?
I think that something that can be statically judged as perfect within any individual instant and simultaneously also as "improving" would be the best possible arrangement to exist within (either eternally or transiently). Issues arise when it comes to the question of exactly how (or whether) to judge any individual thing. I align with the Taoists I guess on that.
The question is both about how the external world should be, and how I should relate to the external world.
I guess you could just simplify it to the basic questions: What is the good life? What is the good world? How do I determine what those are, how do I know them for myself, how do I accept them at the most fundamental level of my being in order to become ... whatever.
Even just typing this out makes the question feel disgusting to me. I hate obsessing over these simple questions night and day, pouring over books and words written by other people trying to figure out if anyone both has an answer and doesn't, because if someone gave me the answer I would want to avoid it, or find anything else.
anyway /shitty blogpost

>>12044001

We're going to experience a complete world cataclysm before "digital immortality" occurs. The biosphere is quite literally dying.

Is Capital, dare I say, sentient?

>>12043474
So fully automated gay space communism?
>>12043000
>working gives them purpose
I never understood this sentiment. I get that "work" writ large can mean many things, from one's life's work to a teenager whiling away at his first job in a convenience store. In the former case purpose in the richer sense comes into play. We work not simply because we are coerced by the need to avoid poverty but because we feel self-actualized by the effort. In the latter case, nobody gives a shit and they're just doing it because they need the money.

When automation becomes more of a thing the life's work kind of work won't disappear but the pointless work will. So there will still be stuff for people to do. Just because programs can do everything won't kill the desire to set goals for oneself.

>>12043440
I propose: with a routine.
"Do I seem free enough, and if yes, for how long probably? If so, what could I do that seems best for all?"

>shit needs to keep being asked
Way too many don't understand the most basic shit and live fucked up loves because they don't even know the Greeks
Desire to push the envelope is an academic endeavor and kills philosophy as a tool to improve lives

>>12043242
This one. Man and machine.

>>12044069
Pretty much. Although we technically all own private capital in this case.
Everyone needs to be a producer if the market for labour crashes.

>>12042735
Does anyone know the source of this?

A philosopher said that someone who is enlightened should not concern themselves with changing the minds of ordinary people. He compared it to situation in which it was raining outside in a city, saying it was better for the philosopher to stay inside than try to convince people outside that it was raining and in the process get himself wet.

I think it was Plato but I can't find it anywhere

Why did they sticky this?

Creation in a time of distraction.

>>12045342
Yes, very interesting developments in a new field called digital fabrication could drastically explode economic theory to date. For the better. If you can 3D print anything you need the only thing you need to buy is the printing materials. (Expect a massive business empire to sprout around this need in decades to come.) People might be against eating printed bio-matter--sounds delicious-- but they will not be against printing out new phones or useful tools.

Eventually there will just be marketplaces for the schemas or plans to various objects, (but also manny creative commons objects like hammers and so forth) that you will be able to download and print out. Suddenly anyone with the materials will be able to print out any object smaller than their manufactory space.

>>12045408
HOWEVER you would need to also be able to print the machine that digitally fabricates itself. Otherwise, you can expect these machines to be artificially priced at hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars at the larger (let's say jet plane) scales. A tool of such power would not be democratized with enthusiasm on the part of the ruling classes.

However, if you can use the machine to print more instances of itself, then it is subject to the same cost reductions and economy of scale as everything it can produce.

>>12042739
Pretty sure Hesiod worked this out in the 8th century BC

What are the effects of the new hyperconnectivity of the world and what, if anything, should be changed?

How to cum in a pussy.

hit or miss

>>12042735
What is the ideal end that justifies the means

>>12043037
I read that in Norms voice

How do you educate the common man?

>>12045511
this, i'd be your friend in real life

>>12042902
Boomer spotted

>>12045515
y-you too

What is the best way to end the human race and make way for the Overmen?

How do we complete the system of German idealism

>>12042902
Ah Gen Z. The darling child our next generation, in which we entrust humanities future. But only after the boomers move on (to the grave, teehee) and gen x'ers and Millennials take over. Won't that be fun!

What to make of these gen z twinks and stacies? They are surely more socially liberal than they are hyped, although less so for the males. But they are also less white, more fiscally conservative (they watched the millenials get robbed under Bush and Obama) and more engaged and upbeat than dreary alcoholic indebted millenials and uninspired gen x'rs. Who knows what will become of them. Certainly not theTrump Youth of the newly ensconced fascist party.

>>12042902
That's the wrong question. The question is: are Gen Z capable of taking a joke?

>>12045550
Millennials are such a strange generation. They're like an empty space on the cultural landscape.

>/lit/ thinks it's composed of people more intelligent than the average riffraff
>still falls for the "generation" meme, a literal-normie tier belief created as part of a marketing campaign
lmao

>>12045658
No one uses "generation" as a clear-cut scientific measurement, but rather as a guiding frame against which certain socio-economic trends and behaviours can be aligned.

>>12045658
generation is just a word for "group of people who grew up during a particular period of observable trends" smart guy
you trying to tell me observable trends don't exist and they have no affect on the people whose environment they encompass?

>>12045692
>observable trends
sounds extremely racist desu

What?

>>12045679
>>12045692
That's fine, but that's not what people do in practice. See literally any debate trying to figure out who's a millennial and who's not.

>>12043569
>what will happen to those people?
>I do not understand the purpose of war.

What is a subject?

>>12042759
>ever increasing
The world population is predicted to halt at 12 billion and start decreasing from there (if it doesn’t all come crashing down before then)

What do we do with all the stupid ugly young men in the age of automation

>>12042735
why woud humans want to live when they are unable to pursue happiness or pleasures of the modern world?

Can humanity survive without grand narratives?
My answer is 'no' and that everything will die once the last embers of the class war die out and the planet suffocates from pollution.

How to love useless people.

>>12042735
Holocaust: did it happen (no)?

>>12046200
Its easy. I love you, anon.

>>12046232
I love you too.

>>12046041
Pornography and video gaming has this 100% covered.

>>12046270
But the semites and the niggers are everywhere.

>>12046280
Don't worry so much. There will no blacks or Jews in your VR fantasy world when we harvest your organs to power the machines. Just swallow the blue pill and relax.

>>12046032
>at 12b
the max predicted pop was 8-9b just a few years ago lol

>>12043583
so, the solution is to make people take certain tests before they’re allowed to vote?

>>12046297
Buttmuffin, you will be raped, humiliated and chained like a little bitch by the people you defend. You have no idea what you're getting into.

>>12044069
it’s rather the status and the ability to do something with that status that gives one a purpose

>>12042748
A miserable little pile of rhizomes

>>12045358
Sounds like Heraclit, but definitely not Plato.

>>12042735
The same question that needs to be asked every year, "How do we incorporate the teachings of charitable interpretation into mandatory education?"

>>12046270
Who pays for their living expenses?

>>12046314
I am the people I defend, dipshit. I'll probably just be shot by the people you defend.

>>12046453

What is the purpose of all this technological progress?
We're on a train with no idea where it will take us

>>12042902
Gen Z are at this point so beaten down by capitalist mindsets it doesn't matter. Still better than the cancerous generations before them.

>>12046805
Somebody knows where the train is taking us. Unless we killed the guys who laid the tracks.

>>12046816
>capitalist mindsets
imagine being 150 fucking years behind the times lel

>>12046822
You do know that we still live under capitalism right?

>>12042735
the jewish one

>>12046506
>2018
>being non-white
Lmaoing @ yr life

why does my pee come out blue sometimes?

>>12046848
Still mad about that circumcision?

>>12046865
yes

>>12046850
/pol/ told me that whites are a persecuted minority. Fuck that, I'm good.

>>12046513
Your first response was good, the second not so much.

>>12046822
The next Gen is by far the most capitalist, unless you're one of those people that thinks being cosmopolitan liberal is in anyway anti-capitalist.
>well China's model will take over
>well techno-takeover
These won't end the system of individuals owning means of production to raise capital even if it leads to game developer serfdom. Every speech I see from major pundits, businessmen, politicians is that "you're gonna be so devalued as a worker that you'll have to work 3 part time jobs and that's just how it is now". Enjoy having to log your bathroom breaks on a company app.

>>12046844
we live under roofs actually

>>12042735
why is Judaism co-opting the Christian theology of God as highest good? it seems to be purely a feel good appeal to normies and not at all characteristic of their nationalist/tribal deity's bloodthirsty ways.

>>12046966
forgot pic

>>12043727
Are people inherently good?
Solved

>>12046946
Not all of us.

>>12042735


Is access to White people a universal human right?

>>12043000
this might be a good argument for space exploration right now - if we view ourselves as not limited to the world and force ourselves to realize the magnitude of the unrevealed when we get to a post-scarcity society (the end of technology hopefully) we'll be forced to have an important reconciliation that I hope ends up nice nice star trek importance of the individual and experience nice nice good

>>12044715
The ultimate lesson that the Greeks have to give us is that a life of contemplation (a.k.a asking questions) is perhaps the worthiest one. What are you on about?

>>12047684
>What are you on about?
Why do Brits talk like retards? I hate British people so much.

>>12045563
This is the "angry dumb feminist pwned in RDR2" guy right

Is singularity happening or nah?

>>12043000
Just release your cyberpunk game already Tim

>>12047891
Yup, and people lost their shit over it.

>>12045490
this was way better when i thought it was a guy