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>The philosopher and classicist Martha Nussbaum has been named the winner of the 2018 Berggruen Prize, which is awarded annually to a thinker whose ideas “have profoundly shaped human self-understanding and advancement in a rapidly changing world.”

>The prize, which carries a cash award of $1 million, will be awarded at a ceremony in New York in December.

Why is she so beloved? What little I've read from her has failed to impress. Should I read one of her books in full? Any recommendations?

>> No.12016004

>>12016001
An literal whom

>> No.12016023

>>12016001
honestly dont even know who that is

>> No.12016052

>>12016004
>>12016023
jesus fucking christ this really is the stupidest board isn't it
she's a jewish feminist, anons. that's probably around your level of stereotyping.

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>Nussbaum is drawn to the idea that creative urgency—and the commitment to be good—derives from the awareness that we harbor aggression toward the people we love. A sixty-nine-year-old professor of law and philosophy at the University of Chicago (with appointments in classics, political science, Southern Asian studies, and the divinity school), Nussbaum has published twenty-four books and five hundred and nine papers and received fifty-seven honorary degrees. In 2014, she became the second woman to give the John Locke Lectures, at Oxford, the most eminent lecture series in philosophy. Last year, she received the Inamori Ethics Prize, an award for ethical leaders who improve the condition of mankind. A few weeks ago, she won five hundred thousand dollars as the recipient of the Kyoto Prize, the most prestigious award offered in fields not eligible for a Nobel, joining a small group of philosophers that includes Karl Popper and Jürgen Habermas. Honors and prizes remind her of potato chips; she enjoys them but is wary of becoming sated, like one of Aristotle’s “dumb grazing animals.”

>> No.12016061

>>12016052
Idgaf what her ideologies are I have literally never heard of her. I am fine with Jewish feminists and their hot khazar milkers I just never heard of this one. Stop with your gay Pol bait thread you don't know anything about her either. Inb4 you Google furiously you cunt.

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>>12016057
>fifty-seven honorary degrees

How is this even possible???

>> No.12016064

Is she trans? Getting serious hon vibes here

>> No.12016072
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>>12016061
>I am fine with Jewish feminists and their hot khazar milkers

She's a little different in that she converted to Judaism.

>> No.12016079

>>12016064
THIS

>> No.12016082

>>12016061
seems like university of chicago people are overlooked unless they are from the economics dept. or b school, eliade is like the only 'famous' one of them, but they have some patrician af ppl over there

>> No.12016084
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What doth thou meaneth?

>> No.12016091

>>12016082
I'm an autist I guess I have always been a fan of MIT

>> No.12016092

>>12016082
>eliade is like the only 'famous' one of them

Strauss and Bloom too, though they've become historical villains for some reason.

>> No.12016097

>>12016084
>after a long and harrowing battle, Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli stand in unity to howl at Sauron.

>> No.12016100

>>12016092
>For some reason
Bloom is the Ebert of literature

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>philosopher
>classicist
>woman

>> No.12016102

>>12016092
well chicago's sort of right wing in everything like that chick who's book got banned in india for being literally politically incorrect about hinduism is from there, and that chick who wrote that series in defense of bourgeois values is from there too

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>tfw no young Nussbaum gf

>> No.12016106

>>12016100
not harold bloom u fucking mong everyone knows he's been at yale forever, hes talking about allan bloom

>> No.12016109 [DELETED] 

>>12016102
Oh yeah the right wing are really oppressed

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>> No.12016115

>>12016102
man now that i think about when it comes to humanities shit chicago is patrish af fuck all these new england ass schools

>> No.12016116 [DELETED] 

>>12016106
Hahhaa okay another who (?) Chimpcongo University loses again

>> No.12016119

>>12016109
in academia they are u fuckin foolio

>> No.12016124

>>12016116
u never heard of closing of the american mind nor read his translation of rousseau's emile? wow this board is truly plebeian now

>> No.12016125

>>12016119
Good fuck those tight asses

>> No.12016131

>>12016124
I could just as easily name drop some crap only I care about and call you a pleb too buddy

>> No.12016132

>>12016124
rousseau is g*y

>> No.12016135

Literally who.

>> No.12016142

>>12016119
lmao being retarded doesn't count as "academic oppression"

>> No.12016178

https://youtu.be/tWfK1E4L--c
Since reading is hard for /lit/

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>>12016178

>> No.12016213

>>12016178
Moral dilemmas are pretty cool but much easier to speculate on than actually act upon.

>> No.12016215

>>12016178
>>12016197
will check, thanks

>> No.12016220

>>12016063

Jewish nepotism

It's not even a big /pol/ conspiracy, jews are notorious for their tribal mentality and that results in nepotism. A lot of highly positioned people in Academic institutions are Jewish.

>> No.12016223

>>12016057
>more fre*dshittery

>> No.12016230

>>12016178
>Comparing the vaguaries of bourgeois academic life to the moral primacy of a Greek tragedy
Literally first world problems

>> No.12016233

>>12016102
Which two people are you talking about? They both sound pretty epic.

>> No.12016246

>>12016001
No. She’s a stuck up elitist Aristotle wannabe bitch who shoulda been prevented from getting a PhD. What a shame it is to think you can become an academic monolith at a reputable university by parroting John fucking Rawls. A profoundly bankrupt, unoriginal, uninsightful thinker.

>> No.12016249

>>12016220
As a father I would be cutthroat if I could to advance my son's carreer anyone who wouldn't is a cuck.

>> No.12016260

>>12016001
I haven't read much of her but I liked her paper on the value-laden nature of the so-called "hard sciences", and how having ethical values impinge on research isn't unique to stuff like sociology or social psychology.

>> No.12016270

>>12016001
>irrelevant memecademic wins irrelevant sweepstakes contest
never heard of her, guarantee she won't be read in 25 years

>> No.12016289

>>12016233
doniger and mcclosky

>> No.12016408

>>12016131
not the guy youre incessantly responding to but you’re just retarded dude admit it. not knowing alan bloom and being a semi-intellectual person is like being a baseball player and not knowing sammy sosa.

>> No.12016438

>>12016289
>>12016092
>>12016082
doniger's book was just banned because it's mildly irreverent about conservative indian cultural shibobleths in a time of rising indian nationalism and chauvinism, she's not conservative at all, she's pretty nice and normal in real life

>> No.12016456

>>12016438
actually i listened to one of her other books on hinduism called "on hinduism" and it had bad british style humor which i find lame af in academic writing so i can see why people who take hinduism seriously didn't dig it, i have no idea if shes actually british but she makes bad jokes as if she is

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>>12016408
Funny metaphor. Fucking pleb shit. Crawl into my oven sweaty.

>> No.12017579

Yikes - it's not about her being a woman or whatever - she's a liberal and, worst of all, an analytic!

>> No.12017595

>>12016063
>>12016057
>>12016001
she looks like she fucks black gys and sucks a lot of dick well

>> No.12017883

>>12016197

This is a fairly well written but ultimately bad and overgeneralizing academic book, which is why it is allowed to exist in university libraries.

>> No.12017901

>>12016001
kinda hot
I would probably

>> No.12017905

>american philosopher
no such thing

>> No.12017907

>analytic moral philosopher
oh no no no

>> No.12017909

>>12016001
jews are superior

>> No.12017949

>american
>hates derrida
>hates postmodernism
>praised by new york times and Salon
>defends incestuous relations
>analytic philosophy
>moral political theory
so many red flags

>> No.12018079

>>12016001
Just read her criticism of Judith Butler and she get's a thumbs up for this alone.

>One afternoon, fatigued by Butler on a long plane trip, I turned to a
draft of a student's dissertation on Hume's views of personal identity. I quickly felt my spirits
reviving. Doesn't she write clearly, I thought with pleasure, and a tiny bit of pride. And Hume,
what a fine, what a gracious spirit: how kindly he
respects the reader's intelligence, even at the
cost of exposing his own uncertainty.

>> No.12018096

>>12016001
Her essay on Plato's Symposium was deeply moving, yet horribly wrong. At the end, she calls it a "cruel and alarming book," completely disregarding that Socrates (who is the model for all philosophers) dons the role of Eros and flits between the worlds of gods and men. She asserts that philosophy is a permanent breaking-off with physical love and human contact; Socrates had a wife, for Chrissakes.

I do love this bit: "When Alcibiades finished speaking, they burst out laughing at the frankness of his speech, because it looked as though he was still in love with Socrates. He stood there, perhaps, with ivy in his hair, crowned with violets."

>> No.12018648

>>12016001
>have profoundly shaped

jaws

>> No.12018796
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I love threads where /lit outs themselves. everyone calling her a literal who is confirmed brainlet, literally everyone learns who Nussbaum is in academic philosophy. she is one of the big dogs in modern ethics. You all feel like intellectuals because you've read Plato and Aristotle; meanwhile the modern day champion of Aristotelian virtue ethics remains a literal who to you

>> No.12018804

>>12018096
>Socrates had a wife, for Chrissakes
And children, all of which he abandoned into death for his principles. I'm pretty sure he's become a symbol for putting philosophy over your personal life.

>> No.12019217

>>12018804
>sacrificing yourself for the integrity of your people/state
>somehow equivalent to abandoning your family
It's the opposite.

>> No.12019506

>>12016249
That's just your son, though. Not a collection of subversive ethnicities that no one can acknowledge the nepotism of without being socially assassinated.

>> No.12019662

>giving a shit about bourgeois prizes

>> No.12019668

>>12017595
She looks bonkers that's for sure.

>> No.12019697

>>12019217
Athens lost the war anon, shit was already in terminal collapse when Socrates was being tried. I take it you aren't well versed in ancient Greek history.

>> No.12019728

>>12016004
>>12016023
>>12016061
>>12016135
>>12016270
i only took a couple philosophy 100 level classes and a nussbaum article was in the curriculum. she's been cited tens of thousands of times. at least others itt like >>12016246 and >>12018096 can make a substantive reply. >>12018796 is right you are lightweights and only shitpost about philosophers who passively come to your attention by being memes on this board

>> No.12019755

>>12018796
>>12019728
>academic philosophy

literal and actual cringe. you're never gonna make it.

>> No.12019757

>>12019728
This woman will not be relevant 50 years from now, she is a pundit. I don't care what you came across in college just asked my cousin who has a MA in International Studies and a BA in Philosophy and he said "doesn't sound familiar"

>> No.12019907

>>12018796
>big dogs in modern ethics
Useless, invisible field. Of no consequence whatsoever.

>> No.12019914

>>12019697
Just the reverse, if you think the state would have been better off without the death of Socrates to guide them you're a fool
>shit was already in terminal collapse.
I know Thucydides writes our losses were total, but Athens still had about 200 years to go, and the few males that remained were a generation in a do or die moment. The guiding example of Socrates remained significant until and even still under Roman rule. I'd think the fact we still talk of him is proof of that.

>> No.12019980

>>12019914
He was the proto-Jesus

>> No.12020058

>>12018804
This is such a modern sentiment it's almost comical, and also why the modern man has no home or loyalty or even self. Socrates was a father unto his people, and they him.

>> No.12020125

>>12016052
Actually not a Jew, just a Jew lover. I think she even divorced her Jew husband but kept his Jew name to further her career.

I know her fairly well, took a course and attended lectures. Went out to dinner twice.

She's smart, but quite subversive for a goyische yenta.

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>>12019757
>>I just asked my cousin
So you, a literal who, asked another literal who about whether or not they have heard of this woman?

>> No.12020191

>>12020179
The so-called academics are literal who’s, literal who-ing in this world with their literal whodom of whoness. Honestly academics are out of touch with the real world

>> No.12020286

>>12019907
says anonymous on anime dragon dildo imageboard

>> No.12020472

>>12016001
>Martha Nussbaum
I had to read her work on law and literature for a class. Pretty interesting, but somewhat naive about the 'redemptive power of literature', as though reading books alone (and uncritically) automatically makes you a better person.

>> No.12020497

The only thing I've read of her is her critique of Judith Butler, but it's such a thorough BTFOing that she must have at least a speck of talent. Still to this day it's one of the best takedowns of vacuous postmodern feminism, leagues better than any of the typical right wing ressentiment.

http://faculty.georgetown.edu/irvinem/theory/Nussbaum-Butler-Critique-NR-2-99.pdf

>> No.12020518

>>12020286
Literally only dusty academics care about analytic moral philosophy and neoshitelianism. You’re delusional if you think Nussbaum will ever inspire art, action or new ways of living.

>> No.12020546

>>12020472
https://www.sendspace.com/file/uylawa

Here's the chapter in question, if anyone was interested. She doesn't seem to realise that even if reading Dickens or Richard Wright makes you more humanist, reading Rand or Galsworthy can equally make you sympathise with genuinely terrible people. Sympathetic engagement with a text ultimately isn't enough.

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>>12020546
>Reading Rand can equally make you sympathise with genuinely terrible people

>> No.12020644

>>12020591
based and redpilled maga

>> No.12021017

>>12016001
>Why is she so beloved? What little I've read from her has failed to impress.

She writes books supporting the dominant globalist multicultural ideology consensus (do you remember consenting to it? I dont).

She's not jewish, she converted and is famous for her "full throated defense of multiculturalism". The only means of accepting multiculturalism is full-throated so she represents of paradigm example of our unelected ruling class.

>> No.12021086 [DELETED] 

>>12016001
Politics. She's intelligent, but she hasn't "profoundly shaped" anything whatever.

>> No.12022341

>>12020497
But that is right-wing ressentiment. True, not of a far-right conservative kind, but of the center-right neoliberal conformist analytic philosophical kind.

>> No.12022353

>>12022341
>neoliberal

This is such a weird word.

>> No.12023033

>>12019757
your cousin probably doesn't go to the best school if that's the case anon (or he needs to pay more attention in his ethics classes)

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>>12022341
>Nussbaum is actually a right-winger!

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she's a bit of a gilf
i'd fuck her if she kept her stockings and heels on

>> No.12023063

>>12023058
Lol this looks like some Halloween Costume. Who is going as her next year? XD

>> No.12023256

women shouldn't win awards like this, it's just virtue-signaling and makes the foundation look bad.

>> No.12023349

Wow. Imagine having her as your mom!

>> No.12023384

>>12016001
Thats obviously a man.

>> No.12023394

>>12016249
Is there anything more pathetic than being something in the world because certain people in power pushed you there? How do you not feel like a fraud. Yes, I realize all people get there that way, which is why awards, recognition, posts, etc. are meaningless.

>> No.12024292

>>12016057
psychoanalytic bullshit then

>> No.12025075

>>12021017
>full throated
yeah throat of black dick lol

Read: https://www.counter-currents.com/2014/11/martha-nussbaum-premier-citizen-of-the-world/

>> No.12025175

>>12016001
The West will invariably collapse as more "thinkers" like this gain academic recognition. Just a load of bullshit, really. I could write much better books, but I doubt they'd receive recognition. Honestly, most criticisms of Jews in Culture of Critique is also on target, but I don't let such thoughts dominate my mind all the time, like many /pol/tards. I still feel disgusted by Jews and those who revere them though.

>> No.12026173

She dated Cass Sunstein and Amartya Sen.

>> No.12026924

>>12016249
But that’s retarded

>> No.12026930

>>12016001
This woman is surprisingly not actually a Jew but rather a convert to Judaism

>> No.12026954

>>12018796
that girl's pretty hot, but that sweater is even more fire w2c

>> No.12026989

>>12025175
>Literally getting sent into an impotent rage becuase some literal who is more successful than you
>”B-but I could write better”

Sure you can, buddy.