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Only Thales, Heraclitus, and Pythagoras are necessary. Especially Pythagoras, most important of the Greeks desu

>>12019609
>Parmenides
>not necessary

>>12019609
>no eleatics
>>12019542
Very good idea Tbh, never realized how much of a low IQ pseud I am before attempting to engage seriously with them. I have completely stopped reading philosophy and have gone over to only studying math and physics until I am ready.

>>12019617
I was wondering about this, Plato has a book on Parmenides. Is there much more out there to cover?

>>12019609
Could you point me to one of Pythagoras' works?

>>12019643

>>12019643
Read Nicomachus - Introduction to Arithmetic to learn how Pythagoreanism works. Make sure you read Plato’s Timaeus beforehand

>>12019643
Lmao

>>12019657
>>12019646
>>12019674

>>12019542

But that book is mostly commentary and fragments

>>12019620
Autistic & Based

>>12019609
Ahh yes, the writings of Pythagoras

>>12019542
parmenides + heraclitus > plato > aristotle

>>12019609
Thales and Pythagoras never wrote anything, unlike Anaxagoras or Empedocles.

>>12019542
It’s already part of my reading list.

>>12019885
What comes after Aristotle?
The Stoics?
The Neo-Platonists?
The Skeptics?
St. Augustine?
Aquinas?
Descartes?
Hobbes?
Locke?
Hume?
Frege?
Wittgenstein?

>>12019643
a squared plus b squared equals c squared?
you're probably familiar with all of it even if you haven't read him.

>>12020063
Ignore the Apocrypha. It would make more sense to read the Talmud or Josephus' Antiquities of the Jews instead if you actually want to learn about ancient Jewish culture and history.

>>12020066
There is no equivalent to "c" in the Greek alphabet.

>>12019885
Heraclitus is basically self-help and Parmenides is actually thought-provoking metaphysics desu.

>>12020076
Already finished it actually. It was interesting to see the later interplay between Judaism and the Roman empire, but for the most part you're right. Josephus is on the list, but I haven't written that part down yet.

Any reason to look into the Jewish Midrash?

>>12020081
>So_rates
>Thu_ydides
>Sopho_les
>_rito
>Gree_e
fill in the blanks and get dabbed on

>>12020157
>Sokrates
>Thukydides
>Sophokles
>Krito
>Hellas

>>12020055
To be fair, we can't really know if they ever did. By all indications it does seem that Pythagoras did, though some of that may be works by other Pythagoreans signed with his name.

>>12020268
The first two books of the Elements is mostly Pythagoras as well. Just FYi everyone.

Ptolemy uses I. 47 to create his table of chords in book II (trigonometry, essentially).

And then Abu Kamil uses II. 3 - 7 to explain and develop the beginnings of the quadratic formula.

A lot of things owe their origin to Pythagoras technically, but the most impressive is his mystical ratios and theories of numbers. He took an Aristotleian view of numerical relations, that they were important to develop the various theories of theoretic arithmetic.

>>12019609

>>12020085
Through heraclitus' thought is the only way of making sense of Parmenides in lens of Whitehead (being as change process)

>>12019629
Parmenides is featured in book 1 of Aristotle's physics as well.

>>12019643
>>12020055
>>12019871


Christ, this board is beyond retarded

>>12019542
Start with the hermetica or forever be a retard

>>12019815

You literally don't understand the very first thing about the Presocratics. It is /entirely/ commentary and fragments, because that is all that is left of them, which increases their mystery and appeal, in one sense. Fragments and hearsay are all that we have, in the historical record. That's it. All that we can do is pore over the hearsay of hearsay and make reasonable suggestions as to what was really going on, which is what the commentators (Freeman, Diels, Kranz, Waterfield, Wheelwright et al) have been about.

Imagine a well-known blog site which was nuked a few years ago for whatever reason, and a bunch of dead links and blogposts in other extant blogs which not only describe the blog, but describe its contents in a fair amount of detail. That's a very good analogy for the historical situation.

>>12020373
So you sayin???

>>12023022
That dogs piss on sophists...

>>12020065
Spinoza