/lit/ - Literature

The collapse of the wave function was the ultimate either/or: either the noumenal freedom of the White Hole (Eden), infinite information with zero density, /or/ the "male taste" of the actual, and its extreme, the Black Hole (Void): infinite density with zero information. And yet this is a choice that can only be retroactively assumed, after the Fall has already happened: consciousness is always too late to catch its own tail. Consciousness is EXCREMENTAL: it delivers itself from its own substrate through its auto-formalization, an escape route from the void of immanence it does not discover but is /coessential with/. I couldn't experience the effects of intoxication if my subjectivity were not already wedged far enough in my own body's A = A to create a space for whom this drunkenness happens "to". Now we ask, as Deleuze says, not what a thing is but "what is its condition?" That is, the abstract form it fills, the mold it creates alongside its filling: the subject's articulation of the positive order is nothing else but an effect of its continuity experienced as time: /because/ consciousness persists through time, that it is consciousness, its form is self-given, and this consistency has its basis in memory. The link here between memory and apperception is extremely tantalizing: the more powerful a person's memory, the more "here" they are: in Weininger's system memory is the condition of genius, the soul that remembers everything feels everything, the genius is the form that can hold all the content of a universe, and the God of this universe was the greatest soul of another's: God is the Sense that is its own sense. What that means is that time is the dialectical repetition of A = A: the instant there is enough continuity in Sense-Certainty to distinguish one Here from There, the dialectical cascade begins, and yet this cascade will affirm nothing in the end but its tautological identity with the Whole. Everything is a ring, and you most of all, the door you'll go through when all's said and done will take you to your first breath.

Quantum mechanics doesn't prove that consciousness is everything, far from it, wave functions will collapse without observation as long as there could have been the /possibility/ of observation: reality makes sense to itself only where it's arsed to do so. Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle means there comes a point where the medium's own measurement of itself becomes self-interfering. In the time before the Fall we perceived without collapsing the Ain into grit, Nous as pure act in Aristotle's system is a Klein bottle Engine that converts the boundless energy of its Outside into determinacy. Or no, even crazier than that, instead of the crude image of God "siphoning" off potentiality from somewhere outside of him like a fuckin' amoeba or something, think of it like this: whenever God does go "probing" for an Outside, all he meets is this energy, all he CAN meet is this energy, but because there is nothing outside of God, he creates his power as he discovers it, just as in Hegel the absolute "finds itself as it thinks itself", he can do nothing but create himself into being, he is this joy eternal and alone, and he sees and he creates, because his Seeing is his Creating. One principle enthroned in the Springhead of itself for all time and out of time, an abyss pollinated by stars, this dandelion Love.

yeah dude that's deep do you want like hit the bong with us and read infinite jest??

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Have you been reading Schopnehauer?

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Trump will end birthright citizenship and noody will be able to stop him

based 5 oclock wojak poster

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Categorical and imperative!

>>12015249
where do you guys live that it's 5 right now? Nova scotia or something?

You've outdone yourself this time. Almost brought tears to my eyes at the end, you bastard. I have a lot of questions, but I think I like the mystery. You're doing great things.

>>12015259
Newfoundland is one of the best places in the world.

>>12015268
ive seen some pics of your mountains, they look pretty based

>>12015239
No just brushing up on Kant.

>>12015265
i'm happy. that is, unless you're memeing

>>12015347
>the world makes sense because it /has/ to pose this question, not because it was /ordained/ to: time goes on not because its leash is being pulled by the seasons, but because it pulls its own leash.
it was that sentence that made me think of schopenhauer

in any case carry on based schizoid poster

>>12015347
>unless you're memeing
Nah, I mean it.

>>12015359
oh cool, thanks

books for this feel?

>in b4 durr pynchon, dfw, stoner, etc etc

>>12015401
none of those authors have anything to do with this, you're right

Kant. Zizek. Hegel. Bakker's Blind Brain Theory.

The closest you'll get to this style is maaaybe Crowley's stuff

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What does Schopenhauer say about time?

Globalism is the tightening of the genetic bottleneck. We're eating our young, refining the genetic dice roll until there's no longer any such thing as snake eyes. The barnacles are being shaved off the ship of Progress.

God wants to suck the marrow out of his own bones.

just curious: who’s your audience?

>>12015871
people who enjoy this style, because this kind of writing is my favorite. schizoid barely holding back the flood of revelation. something like crowley's more ecstatic works.

in a way im kind of writing for myself out there, in another body

>>12015219
Great shit OP. I think you'll appreciate this: https://old.reddit.com/r/Tao_of_Calculus/comments/9rpnrl/space_taoism_101/?st=jnxrvih3&sh=a691788c

It's basically extending the paradigm of evolution to its ultimate conclusion in metaphysics and consciousness.

>>12015926
i'm aware, we've actually had conversations before, if you're the space tao guy

I like seeing all these trailblazers

most based threads on lit.

>>12015219
>The Fall was the collapse of the first wave function
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>>12015947
I thought we had, are you girardfag?

>>12015983
this is schizophrenia, not the OP

>>12015990
No

i'm modem

>>12015991
that career as a mental health practitioner is probably going to elude you, anon

>>12015219
Are you a wise old sage, a young proselyte, or somewhere in between?

>>12016047
body of a young'un, soul of an old man

>>12016114
Ah, that's what I was afraid of.

>>12016199
why?

>>12016205
I get in my head about my age and aspirations; I'm in late 20's and hope to ramble with that kind of merit. It's mostly a self esteem thing about my personal growth and feeling like I'm slacking; when in reality I'm doing pretty well for myself. Just a morbid curiosity for self deprecation that I'm hoping leads to my own inspiration.

>>12016218
i'm nothing in this life, intelligent-sounding rambles don't count for anything, these 4chan posts were bought with a lot of pain and suffering, not sure if they were worth it.

just do you and don't worry

To summarize: consciousness, in wanting to escape from its ground, can only affirm its identity with it /in the mode of escape/. Ex. To release itself from its dependency on nature, human beings have to erect the infrastructure of an entire, second order of nature on which this liberation will depend (technocapital).

Nature does not unfurl gloriously into life and mind, it is instead Hegel's great insight to understand life and mind as the /spiraling inwards/ of nature, the tightening of a dialectical spring.

There is no escape, only the nesting of sanctuaries within sanctuaries, until the final sanctuary is death -

>>12015219
You mention Deleuze and not Heidegger but you seem more in line with the latter?

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I think that quantum information is like the unconscious of information. Classical information is representable, whereas quantum information partakes in clever means in computing to make repetition possible (akin to foiling the censorship). Repetition is a problem for quantum information because of the "influence of measurement." Of course this is not a straightforward influence in the sense of an external term imposing itself on a system, but is always already taken up in the overall production. Physics erred in phrasing the problem as possibly consciousness affecting quantum systems. It was always a matter of unconscious information.

>>12016239
I appreciate that

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G-girardfag? Are you ok?

>>12016493
5'o clock wojakposter is not me. and other than wanting to stick a fork in my eyes after reading the recent VA essay, i'm great.

nice

>>12015983
mark e smith is /lit/ incarnate: well read and belligerently memeing on everyone with obscure references, a half coherent mad man genius prophet of destruction.

What is Kant's machine?

How did time change the perspective on time?

>>12017625
his conceptual machine. he's saying time isn't a measure of the movement we experience, it's a measure of the movement of experience itself