/lit/ - Literature

>>12000340
Allen Ginsberg or Samuel Taylor Coleridge

>>12000340
YEEEEETS

>>12000340
pic unrelated

>>12000360
I find unreadable a lot of the time. He has a lot of technical skill and mastery of the English language but very little creativity or vision

>>12000340
Elliot

>>12000368
I read his poems with patience. I usually reread some parts to get a better feel for everything. I think he's someone who shouldn't be rushed. I think he taught me how to read poetry a little bit better.

Sylvia plath

>>12000348
Actually looking back on it now I was pretty into Silvia Plath and Charles bukowski before them

>>12000340
Blake and Novalis
>>12000368
feel the same way.

>>12000966
Me to, they should teach here more in English programs cause she’s perfect for angsty high schoolers who have no way of reflecting on or analyzing there inner termoil

Coleridge and Bukowski

Rimbaud

>>12000340
Ive been looking up some Pope on account of your autism and he is genuinely very good

Does it seem to anybody else that he really doesn't fit in with early 18th century poetry

All answers so far in this thread are incorrect.
The only answer can be God.
All other responses are illogical.

Ezra Pound and Wallace Stevens. I've yet to find many pre-20th century poets who really speak to me, but I'm also incredibly inexperienced in regards to it, so maybe I just haven't found "the one."

>>12001220
Pope is a legend, his Essay on Criticism should be required reading

>>12001226
Why would God turn me gay?

>>12001236
Ill check it out, Ive only read some of his poems.
I like Ode on St Cecilia's Day

>>12001229
Going off of this, who should I read from before the 20th century that would really get me into older poetry? I've tried Keats, Donne, Dickinson, etc. and they generally just don't do it for me

Leopardi

>>12001236
>when he demonstrates how too many syllables in a line ruins its rhythm by actually putting an alexandrine into the poem
Absolute Madman

>>12000340
Keats and Shelley

Hey OP, since you keep posting pope can you recommend a short work by him?

For me it was Keats

Am I just retarded or is it normal to have to spend a very long period of time pondering on a single poem, even a very short one, before even having any way or idea to engage with it? I feel like it doesn't take me terribly long to formulate thoughts on prose, but with poetry I have to focus much harder and for much longer. Is this normal or is it just a byproduct of my inexperience with poetry? I would hope it gets better with time.

>>12001555
Unless the poem happens to speak to you incredibly well, liek as if you may as well have written it yourself, then no that is normal anon.

With time you do start to learn the various ways poets tend to express themselves and it becomes easier to pick up, but there are so many different styles and structures of poetry that this may only help with one era or even individual poet.

I find what helps the most is learning to write poetry yourself, you soon start to understand how all the explicit content, the way it is expressed, the order in which things are said, the rhythm and meter, repetititon of images, ideas, colours, etc.

I find it very hard to analyze it in concrete terms but you just start to sort of intutitively understand the "language'

>>12001569
>you soon start to understand how all the explicit content, the way it is expressed, the order in which things are said, the rhythm and meter, repetititon of images, ideas, colours, etc.

i didnt finish this sentence lol it is uspposed to end like this:

how all these are arranged such that something ineffable emerges from their whole, a kind of central essence that evokes feelings of an almost otherworldly or 'sublime' nature.

Shel Silverstein probably

Coleridge

Emerson
(If these eyes were made for seeing
Then beauty is its own excuse for being)

William Blake
[I am Albion!]

>>12001174
Well said, reading the bell jar as a junior in high school helped me understand myself more. She was my friend in depression

here, have a few in one picture

>>12000340
John Donnne

There are two ways to dislike poetry: One is to dislike it; the other is to read Pope

>>12000340
Emily Dickinson. The love of my life, the one and only.

>>12001708
How do you enjoy that irrelevant, cryptic hack?

TS Eliot
Ezra Pound
Dylan Thomas
Robinson Jeffers

>>12001797

>>12000340
Blake

>>12000340
Harry Martinson, without a doubt.

T. S. Eliot did. Before that I didn’t read much poetry, but I really appreciated Gerard Manley Hopkins’ “The Wreck of the Deutschland” and I still do.

Baudelaire

>>12002072

A Carrion, specifically.

>>12000340
in order:
Dickinson
Poe
Aiken
Williams
Sandburg
Collins
Bukowski
Hass

The rest.

>>12000340
Muhammad Haji Salleh, he is a bilingual poet from Malaysia. I found his anthology book Time and Its People at school's library when I was 16y.o.

>>12000340
unironically myself, i just started writing poems. I didnt even bother to read other people's poetry for years, and it was like 7 years before I found another poet I liked

>>12002348
post a poem

>>12001265

Byron, Shelley, Tennyson

>>12000340
Bible.

Robert lowell

Why, the Bard of course!

Like ghosts along the chariot’s sweep
spirit false
i silently pursued distinguished magic
thou dost soar
to render what thou wilt
his limbs beneath heaven

>>12001322
>>12001516
Keats also, is a shame he died so young would have been cool for him to finish some of the epic poems he started on

>>12000340
For me, it was originally Keats, then Whitman, then Pound and Eliot, and then Tennyson. They're all still big influences on my poetry.

>>12002506
this.

based bard

Kierkegaard, a kind of poet.
Poet of inwardness.

>>12001229
Try again with Keats. Read the odes. When you read To Autumn and Ode on a Grecian Urn think of Sunday Morning by Stevens. Keats is a major influence on him and he responds to the ideas in the odes in some of his poetry, especially Sunday Morning. Read more Shakespeare. Try Browning, start with My Last Duchess, Fra Lippo Lippi and Childe Roland. Read Yeats backwards, starting with The Tower.