/lit/ - Literature

>>11997056
Stoner.

>>11997056
12 rules for life

>>11997056
read "12 Rules for Life" by Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

You seem to have a bigger problem that won't be resolved by reading alone

Hideous Disfigurements - Little Ugly Mane

>>11997056
No books, watch Clerks.

>>11997056
I’m in a similar position and also interested.
>>11997058
I’ve been reading Stoner and I’m not too far into it yet but It seems more relatable than helpful so far.
>>11997062
>>11997064
I know the book is a meme but is it actually any good? I’ve seen excerpts and the 12 rules but it all seems like bland advice that’s been said before. Not something insightful.
>>11997078
I think this is probably true unfortunately. What’s the key?

>>11997096
Peterson is a meme. Just read the Mencius instead

>>11997096
>Not something insightful.
You want to get your shit together or do you want "something insightful"? Those are different questions.

>>11997096
>It seems more relatable than helpful so far.
Relatable can be a good start.

>>11997056
OP, read through this thread of miserable pseuds and if it doesn't convince you to leave 4chan I'm afraid you won't make it. As for myself my IQ is high enough that I am immune to heteronomy. Your parents are more than likely terrible human beings so if you want to do anything of significance you must immediately direct all your energies toward independence.

>>11997056
Models by mark manson. It's a dating book but works for self improvement in general and getting pussy is a good motivation to get out of your ass.

And the power of habit by charles dunhig. This will teach you how to change your life little by little.

>>11997062
>>11997064
Are you guys being serious? (not being an ass)

>>11997078
Yeah, and I wish I knew what it is.

Sometimes I think I'm whining and making a big deal of things, but I honestly don't know.

>>11997092
Honestly any time I see normal mediocre people I get depressed because I just don't want to be that way.

>>11997129
My parents are extremely supportive and encouraging, and I barely go on 4chan anymore. It's just not as interesting any longer.

>>11997132
Thanks! Will get them.

>>11997145
>My parents are extremely supportive and encouraging
>comes to 4chan for help
Not so fast bucko

>>11997056
you're supposed to have kids so you have something to do

or just waste away on 4chan or end it

To me it seems that you are well aware of your situation and that you want to change. I am sure that there is something you have in mind,an insight or a timid thought. My advice would be to stop reading and start writing,literally. Get a pen and paper,state your problem, and write down what you think would be the best solution. The trick here is to depersonalize. Imagine that Mr. X or Ms. X has a problem P. What should be done so that P is resolved? It is your life, your problems, therefore it you who gives the solutions as well. The seed in you has grown enough, let it spring up. Let thoughts become actions.

>>11997056

Get a shitty job and suffer for 4 years. That’s how I learned what I hate enough to work hard to avoid, and what I love enough to work on so I can do it more.

>>11997096
>>11997136
>What’s the key?
Real life/physical experiences that leave an impression on your whole being

>>11997277
Yup, did that for 3 years. For some reason, it didn't give me that drive.

My problem that is internal to me seems to be a little more extreme compared to others.

>>11997233
Thanks alot man, I didn't think of writing. I'll definitely start that.

>>11997277
Path to enlightenment right here

>>11997056
It's okay. Once you're finished university, just write a book about your struggles. It probably won't be successful while you're alive, but it will be once you're dead.

>>11997056
>I don't know what to do with life.
What makes you really excited? Surely there's something you really like, even if you don't know why.

>>11997515
People, psychology.

But pursuing that as a degree is a miserable life except for being surrounded by naive college girls.

>>11997332
How do I experience these?
>inb4 go outside
I go outside everyday.

>>11997672
I think he means go do whatever you feel like doing, no matter how faint and ridiculous

So long as you're not sitting and not doing anything

>>11997056
search Bert Hellinger

Dalai Lama's The Art of Hapiness
sounds corny by the title but it's actually really great

the savage detectives

it may not change your life overnight (no book will). but when you realize the power and the infinite wisdom in its teachings, you'll have no choice but to be reborn.

>>11997668
>Having no direction and meaning is a miserable life
>Persuing your interests will to lead to a miserable life

Really you don't know that persuing psychology will make you miserable but it will be different than doing nothing

>>11997807
Oof, good point.

I'm just conflicted because I NEED a relatively good job that I'm okay working with, but I also can't live as a peasant while doing something I love.

Either way, I'll take a course in psych and see how I like it.

Again, this interest I have is really faint. I don't really care, all I want to do is enjoy life and do different things.

>>11997769
I know you're trying to help, but come on get real ahahaha

>>11997747
>>11997758
added

>>11997822
>I know you're trying to help, but come on get real ahahaha
oh, okay. seems you have everything under control on your own.

>>11997769
light from the aether
conquest's anticipation
fleeting atonement

>>11997078
That pic makes me sigh. “Dont follow gurus. Follow plants.”
-a guru

>>11997769

>>11997836
Also not a plant

>>11997834
>light from the aether
*an entire realm beyond our universe, and a God who created all that we know to exist; a God that, despite being entirely justified to condemn every one of us to eternal suffering, continually bestows his grace and mercy upon all sinners, even those who deny him, and gives eternal life to those he chooses.
>conquest's anticipation
*anticipation of the day that every mind, soul, and body will praise and proclaim the glory of the Lord
>fleeting atonement
*the gift of salvation in Jesus Christ, the heavenly Father's only son, who died for the sins of the world

>>11997882
you could read it that way

>>11997885
there's only one true interpretation, anon.

>>11997887
>light from the aether
perpetuation from a universe beyond ours
>conquest's anticipation
alternating state of victory and defeat leads to prophesying
>fleeting atonement
temporal sacrifices given towards the tradition's continuance

>>11997830
I'd rather have no control living by my own accord than by a pansy prophet

>>11997912
scripture is only half of the story. natural revelation will tell you the same thing, and let's pray God opens your eyes before death.

>>11997056
Meditations - Marcus Aurelius

>>11997922
lmao shut up, protestants are utterly boring, weak moralled chums

>>11997924
Thanks, forgot about that one

>>11997924
i tried reading that book once but it was so boring

>>11997941
>utterly boring
so you'd leave the eternal consequences up to whether or not the Earthly subject matter was interesting?

>>11997056
Meditations by Marcus Aurelius or other works on stoicism.

You're trying to improve yourself when you know that you can't. Just let God improve you and let yourself go along with it. Read your Bible, OP.

>>11997978
Yeah

>>11998037
I gotta say, hell is pretty interesting. not sure I'd want to experience it though.

Find a book club anon, you won't be able to handle it if you stay at your home.

You need some extra activities, exactly what you said, more hobbies, more things to do, get out of your house, that's the only way you can do it, you won't find the answers at books.

>>11997056
When I was in a similar situation the Magic Mountain really helped me. The book was an antidote to the indecision and apathy that characterised my life at the time.

Hope it helps you to

>>11997056
>live with parents
I'd suggest this might be the problem. Assuming you haven't tried it already, I'd recommend moving somewhere else and ideally doing something completely different. Teaching English in Asia worked for me- it's easy to be a very different person when you're in a very different context.

>>11997056
lolita & notes from underground

>>11997056
Go work out and get a routine.

>>11997136
>any time I see normal mediocre people I get depressed because I just don't want to be that way
Sounds like you need to reconcile yourself to being normal/mediocre. A bit of stoicism and/or Taoism might be helpful.

>>11997668
>But pursuing that as a degree is a miserable life except for being surrounded by naive college girls
What? Why? I loved being at university and I can't imagine why you'd consider it a 'miserable life'.

Also the plus point you list is a pretty big plus tbph

>>11997064
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>>11997056
Contextual hierarchies and identity necessitated by social bonds. Actualization is impossible within confined hierarchies. Reinterpret data and work towards greater agency. The heiracries are probably subconscious and reinforced through bodily and spoken language, so you'll need about three months at most. Austerity, fasting, boredom, and practicing social vulnerability in order to see yourself more clearly in other's eyes. Start small, with idolizing someone with the strength and tenacity to do what is difficult.

>>11997056
This >>11997769 is the only book that could help you.

Start swimming/fencing/what ever.

Be around people, daily.

>>11998845
Interesting post. Could you elaborate more on the role of boredom and what that book teaches?

Self-Help
Samuel Smiles

>>11997056
Consider reading fiction.
What most people lack is diversity of perspective.

Fiction is good for this due to the large amount of characters and situations.

>>11997056

>>11998820
I mean after getting my degree

With a bachelor's in psychology you often end up in business

>>11997096
Not the guys who recommended JBP but as much of a meme that he is, you seem to seek what he might be able to teach you in his book. You could also look into his podcasts. It's not revolutionary advice but you seem very desperate.

>>12000195
What are you studying instead? Seems strange to assume that because a lot of people do it, you'd have to. There are a range of jobs which require very specific degrees (eg law and medicine) and/or specific maths skills. Outside of those specific areas, you should be able to get most jobs with any kind of degree.

Also, what's terrible about being 'in business' (very vague concept, covers all kinds of things). If you don't have any burning career passions, one strategy is to go for enough earnings to be comfy/enjoy life, and business is one way of doing that. Works for me so far, anyway

Join the military OP. You'll either die or watch a lot of other people die and maybe it will give you something to think about.

>>12000676
Computer science

I don't fucking know anymore man, I'm sure of nothing

Start with the Greeks.

>>12000780
Fuck off, jew.