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THE ART OF EFFECTIVE DREAMING (I)
Make sure, first of all, that you respect nothing, believe nothing, nothing. But while showing disrespect, you should hold on to the desire to respect something; while despising what you don’t love, you should retain the painful longing to love someone; and while disdaining life, you should preserve the idea that it must be wonderful to live and cherish it. Having done this, you’ll have laid the foundations for the edifice of your dreams. Remember that you’re embarking on the loftiest task of all. To dream is to find ourselves. You’re going to be the Columbus of your soul. You’re going to set out to discover your own landscapes. Make sure you’re on the right track and that your instruments can’t mislead you. The art of dreaming is difficult, because it’s an art of passivity, in which we concentrate our efforts on avoiding all effort. If there were an art of sleeping, it would no doubt be morphine, and become intoxicated from the idea of the opium, of the morphine of your dreams, then you deserve to be praised: you are performing like a perfect dreamer. Always think of yourself as sadder and more miserable than you are. There’s no harm in it. It even serves as a kind of trick ladder to the world of dreams.

THE ART OF EFFECTIVE DREAMING (II) Postpone everything. Never do today what you can leave for tomorrow.* In fact you need not do anything at all, tomorrow or today. Never think about what you’re going to do. Don’t do it. Live your life. Don’t be lived by it. Right or wrong, happy or sad, be your own self. You can do this only by dreaming, because your real life, your human life, is the one that doesn’t belong to you but to others. You must replace your life with your dreaming, concentrating only on dreaming perfectly. In all the acts of your real life, from that of being born to that of dying, you don’t act – you’re acted; you don’t live – you’re merely lived. Become an inscrutable sphinx to others. Shut yourself in your ivory tower, but without slamming the door. Your ivory tower is you. And if someone tells you this is false and absurd, don’t believe it. But don’t believe in what I say either, because one ought not believe in anything. Disdain everything, but in such a way that your disdain doesn’t disturb you.Don’t think you’re superior because you disdain. This is the key to the art of noble disdain.
THE ART OF EFFECTIVE DREAMING (III)
By virtue of dreaming everything, everything in life will make you suffer more..... That’s the cross you will have to bear.

>> No.11977822

tl;dr

>> No.11977837

>The best way to start dreaming is through books. Novels are especially helpful for the beginner. The first step is to learn to give in completely to your reading, to live totally with the characters of a novel. You’ll know you’re making progress when your own family and its troubles seem insipid and loathsome by comparison. It’s best to avoid reading literary novels, which tend to divert our attention to the formal structure. I’m not ashamed to admit that this is how I started. Strangely enough, detective novels, are what I instinctively read. I was never able to read romantic novels in any sustained way, but this is for personal reasons, I being romantically disinclined even in my dreams. Let each man cultivate his particular inclination. Let us never forget that to dream is to explore ourselves. Sensual souls, for their reading matter, should choose the opposite of what I read. When the dreamer experiences physical sensation – when a novel about combat, flights and battles leaves his body really exhausted and his legs worn out – then he has passed beyond the first stage of dreaming. In the case of the sensual soul, he should be able – without any masturbation except in his mind – to experience an ejaculation at the appropriate moment during the novel. Next, the dreamer should try to transfer all of this to the mental plane. The dreamed ejaculation (which I choose as the most violent and striking example) should be felt without actually happening . The fatigue will be greater, but the pleasure will be incomparably more intense. In the third stage all sensation becomes mental. This increases the feeling of pleasure and also of fatigue, but the body no longer feels anything; instead of weary limbs, it’s our mind, will and emotions that become slack and sluggish… Having arrived this far, it’s time to advance to the supreme stage of dreaming. The second stage is to construct novels for your own enjoyment. This should be attempted only once dreaming has become perfectly mentalized, as described above. Otherwise, the effort to set a novel in motion will hinder the smooth mentalization of pleasure.

>> No.11977841

>>11977837
>Third stage : Once our imagination has been trained, it will fashion dreams all by itself whenever we want. At this point there’s hardly even any mental fatigue. The dissolution of personality is total. We are mere ashes endowed with a soul but no form – not even that of water, which adopts the shape of the vessel that holds it.With this thoroughly established, complete and autonomous plays can unfold in us line by line. We may no longer have the energy to write them, but that won’t be necessary. We’ll be able to create secondhand; we can imagine one poet writing in us in one way, while another poet will write in a different way. I, having refined this skill to a considerable degree, can write in countlessly different ways, all of them original. The highest stage of dreaming is when, having created a picture with various figures whose lives we live all at the same time, we are jointly and interactively all of those souls . This leads to an incredible degree of depersonalization and the reduction of our spirit to ashes, and it is hard, I admit, not to feel a general weariness throughout one’s entire being. But what triumph! This is the only final asceticism. It’s an asceticism without faith, and without any God. God am I.

Was Pessoa a schizo?

>> No.11977908

>>11977841
>Fernando Pessoa, undoubtedly one of the greatest geniuses of the world literature, is the object of this pathographic study. Through the analysis of their biography and work, the authors seek to delineate his psychological and psychological profiles and characterize an association between his bipolarity and creative pattern. The data of the study reveals a bipolar component and suggests great influence on the humor of his literary activity, as to the content, quantity of the poems and literary style. There is a presence of multiple comorbidities: Alcohol Dependence, Generalized Anxiety Disorders, Social Anxiety Disorder, and Specific Phobias. From a characterological point of view, there is a Schizoid Personality Disorder, with evident disorders of psychosexuality

Seems likely

>> No.11977910

>>11977908
Mistranslated. Read "humor" as mood.

>> No.11977991

>>11977908
i'm never making any of my writings public

>> No.11978169

>>11977991
implying anyone would care

>> No.11978179

>>11978169
>:(
, but good point

>> No.11978206

>>11978179
was just memeing anon i would care :)

>> No.11978218

>>11978206
Besides, ironically someone could say that to Pessoa, he never wanted his work published for the most part

>> No.11978284

>>11978218
that's not true

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>>11977809
>tfw dreaming all day and not doing anything

Is there anyone more based than Pessoa?

>> No.11978564

>>11978284
Yes it is. Most of his work is poetry and it was published posthumously. The book of disquiet and Mensagem are only a small portion of what he wrote

>> No.11978597

>>11977841
He was a genius. You're just misinterpreting it.

>> No.11978616

some of the stuff he says sounds like the tao but mixed in with depressive shit. did pessoa read chink philosophy?

>> No.11978620

>>11977809
>>11977837
>>11977841
>>11977908
haven't asked yet: source?

>> No.11978631

>>11978620
It's from a study done by some Brazilian shrinks and published in 2010. The link seems to be down plus it's in portuguese

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>>11978620
our latest meme book

>> No.11978738

>>11978616
No, he has child Jesus with him.

>> No.11978746

>>11978738
he doesnt like christcuckery though

>> No.11978796

>>11978746
Nah, have you read A Little Larger Than the Universe?

>> No.11978803

>>11978796
yes

>> No.11979379

bump

>> No.11979674

Bump

>> No.11979692

I honestly wish I would stop dreaming.

>> No.11981155

>>11979692
no you dont

>> No.11981164

>>11981155
Yes I would

>> No.11981181

>>11981164
no you dont

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>>11977908
>Alcohol Dependence, Generalized Anxiety Disorders, Social Anxiety Disorder, and Specific Phobias. From a characterological point of view, there is a Schizoid Personality Disorder,
literally me

>> No.11981196

>>11977908
psychology was a mistake

>> No.11981347

>>11978632
I'm about to start it today. Is this meme worth my time? I'm fascinated with Pessoa from what I've read.

>> No.11981364

>>11981347
yes

>> No.11981470

>>11981364
Good enough for me; I'll contribute in a few days when finished. By then, however, a new meme will have sprouted in its place.

>> No.11982364

Bump

>> No.11982496

>>11981470
>>11981347
Dis me. About 30 pages in. Am I suppose to have so much in common with Soares? It's a little frightening. The emptiness... 'Hollow beauty' is my only descriptor, thus far.

>> No.11982506

>>11982496
stop blogposting and continue reading

>> No.11982510

>>11982506
:( okay, meanie. I just wanted a sense of community and peer approval.

>> No.11982689

this is beautiful, just got schmucked by some guy on bleep discord and turns out the guy is total psued and visits here for book recommendations and writes shit poetry just brilliant. also your poem was shit and learn to handle some criticism you big fucking psued