/lit/ - Literature

>>11970435
>humblebragging

>>11970435

>>11970464
Your spacing and size would make it really ledgable if I could read anything other than English.

>>11970471
>ledgable

>>11970518

>people make fun of me for writing in cursive
How do I cope, bros?

>>11970571

>>11970564

>>11970471
NOT enough replies are ridiculing this spelling of legible. Improve, /lit/.

An older picture for a previous handwriting thread.

>>11970571
The medium is the message. And your message is that you don’t care about your audience.

So either don’t handwrite anything for other people or move to print when writing for other people.

>>11970435
Good hand writing means a slow brain. All the intelligent doctors have terrible hand writing.

>>11970590
>that 'o'
Ah, so it's not just me whose cursive strokes "cut" into adjacent letters. I've tried so hard to fix mine but it just never sticks unless I'm writing super slow.

>>11970689
Not that guy, but I’ve tried so many ways of trying to improve my writing. The only things that seem to have a lasting effect are changing things that broadly change the writing. Like using the arm instead of the fingers to articulate letters. What pen or angle I’m writing at. These things are easy enough to keep in mind when writing, as opposed to focusing on letter shapes and such. Those I think just take repetition.

>>11970689
Fuck it, there's nobility in sloppy cursive, go read old letters, etc., and you'll find unless the writer went through a secretarial program or was trained in a formal hand to act as a clerk, etc., it'll look like that. That's what working cursive ought to look like, at least if you're a male.

>>11970627
Pushing a little hard there wouldn't ya say

I swear

It usually looks worse than this if I've been writing for longer than ten minutes but I can't be bothered to provide an example of that.

>>11970435
My handwriting is absolutely horrible. So much so that I write in all capitals to make it more readable for others.

>>11970734
This is a technique used to imprint two layers of information on the same page. He is beyond reading one piece of information at a time.

>>11970435
A simple reflection on the current weather

>>11970435
Thoughts?

>>11970893
What's your beef with hippies?

>>11970924
Whoops, it’s upside down.

>>11970495
LED gable

>>11970892
How do you write vertically so well?

Still learning shorthand, I'm a bit sloppy

>>11971135
It's pretty fucking hard to be honest

>>11970664
Is there science to this? Or is it pseudoscience bullshit? Virtually all of the physics and maths PhD candidates I've met have had chicken scratch for handwriting, though. There's probably a bit of truth to your statement.

>>11970571
WTF, everybody in my country writes in cursive. Where are you from?

>>11970689
Cursive is about being fast, so most people have few letters that look similar to others in cursive. For me, it's O and A. It doesn't block anyone to understand.

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>>11971187
no. it's b/s

Improve your handwriting with the Patrician Italic Hand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v22dewR4izg
https://www.scribd.com/doc/294406130/Lloyd-Reynolds-Italic-Calligraphy-and-Handwriting-Exercises-and-Text-1969

>>11971370
Emotional dismissal and not an argument.

>>11971381
>not understanding that correlation does not imply causation

>>11971384
>being a pseud and using a what fancy sounding concept (to an undergrad) that you don't understand
There is no correlation in this case, there was not a statistical relationship presented; there isn't any correlation to imply a causation to begin with.
If you were actually intelligent, you would have tried instead to cart it off as 'confirmation bias', built only on anecdotes. But you aren't. That's why you right away said "it's bullshit" from square one, and rather than iterate your reasons for why you left it blank. It's a reasonable hypothesis that increased brain processing speed results in slower motor functioning. You just don't like it probably because you've handwritten well your entire life and do not like the implication that this reflects you may be a dum-dum.

>>11971410
Scientific/philosophic thought is dead, people are all about fake news and pseud-shit. Yesterday we had a thread by an anon talking how he doesn't read the news and only gets info by reddit and pol, see? We're doomed, post truth is the new core now. I'm not talking about young people only, old people has gone crazy too.

>>11971410
postgrad here. you're obviously not short on intelligence, but much worse than being dumb is being full of bad faith: let's think about this, doctors habitually just scrawl their signatures on a prescription, they're typically in a hurry to get through as many patients as possible. I wonder if thee's any possible relationship there?
Also, doctors are not the only ones with notoriously bad handwriting: add teachers to that list. And teaching is a lot easier to get into as a profession than medicine, right? You are going to have to revise your little hypothesis.
My handwriting was absolutely atrocious until a few years ago when I made a conscious effort to make legible, attractive, and dare say stylish? using the materials linked to earlier.
Incidentally, I liked your last comment, since we find the classical authors (and Shakespeare and Orwell) mocking those wth good handwriting as a sign of low breeding. But that's fine.

>>11971452
>since we find the classical authors (and Shakespeare and Orwell) mocking those wth good handwriting as a sign of low breeding.
Shakespeare and Orwell clearly trying to cope with their bad handwritting lmao
muh mommy they're stupid bc muh i have ugly handwrite but i'm perfect right mom muh

>>11970447
It does suck, tho. That's ugly and irregular cursive. But Op probably does thin it's "nice" because he's a mutt which just learned it.

>>11971187
It's bullshit. Medicine also doesn't take much IQ, it'S more about remembering shit. An uggo handwritting is just an uggo handwriting. Look back 200 years and you will see that those which could write, wrote beautifully, because they wrote more than people today and getting a letter was quit something. You put effort into it because it took long to send and receive, and you hold on to those letters for years if not life.

Uggo handwritting is just lazyness.

>>11971473
you clearly need to improve your reading comprehension; my handwriting is now quite nice, which is what amuses me about both your comment and those remarks I made.

>>11971473
Why authors always do that? Like
*I don't like something or i'm incapable of do something*
*Mocks about it and about people who does it in childish ways*
It's so childish. Actually, why people do that at all? My dad is also like that and he's mediocre. How come smart people have those childish moments? It's like they lost reason from nothing, arbritarily hating some irrelevant shit that you see that the author is just doing bc he's mad at something silly. Is it narcisism?

>>11970571
read spinoza

>>11971473
>>11971495
neither of you have understood the aristocratic disdain for a learned 'trade'. But yo may have a point insofar as the modern world is concerned.
>Shakespeare: "I once did hold it, as our statists do, A baseness to write fair"
>Orwell: ""Winston found and handed over two creased and filthy notes, which Parsons entered in a small notebook, in the neat handwriting of the illiterate."

>>11971327
>everybody in my country writes in cursive

Where do YOU live? The idea of cursive here is dead; no one here writes in cursive anymore.

>>11971768
Not him, but whole of europe learns to write in cursive the second kids understand the basic alphabet. With individual variations everyone writes cursive as standard.

>>11971482
That looks like shitty italics, not shitty cursive. Can you even read?

I was writting some anon's recs. I personally don't like my handwriting bc i find it very cheesy-cutesy-tiny-bullshit.

Show the fucking instrument you used as well /g/
>t.penenthusiast
our threads are very rare

>>11972573
>fountainpennetwork friend

>>11972578
You use FP for daily notes? I only use it at home for journals because it's too hassle to bring it around with ink and all that. I cycle so what I bring is a gel pen instead.

>>11972590
not exactly cycling around, but mostly journalling (at home) so on a daily basis, yeah.

>>11972161
Nice to see that you wrote down my recommended german books.

please be nice

>>11972608
Tilt it a little bit, then draw the angles a bit sharper and you've got the "EN ISO 3098" Norm.

Is a former prussian writing norm for architects and engineers. The prussian norm became a german norm later.

In this century the german writing norm for engineers and architects became a european norm.

Some may say it's characterless. But exaclty there lies the beauty.

>>11972608
why can't all english faggots write like this?

why do you have to do this:
>>11971138
>>11970926
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>>11970595
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>>11970464
>>11970435

>>11972674
Yo, >>11971138# is short hand (or "Steno" for my german fellows). It's mostly used by journalists to keep up with writing while interviews. Its a whole new character set.

>>11970435
what's the fountain pen?

>>11970892

can you even read that afterwards?

>>11972801
The fountain pen is a kind of pen that has an internal container of ink, which is usually refillable, and uses a nib rather than your standard ballpoint.

I write very quickly, and slowing it down just makes it worse it seems.

>>11973331

>>11970435

Funny thing is, most of the people who write cursive like this can't even read their own handwriting afterwards.

>>11973289
Don't use your fingers to articulate detail. Practice using the entire arm to do the fine motor detail. This takes some time, but the arm tires less and has more control over movement than fingers/wrist.


Also practice making forward slant then down strokes all along a page in the lines.

>>11970435
you put too much effort into this post

>>11973358
What part of OP's post is cursive?

>>11973346
Here here.

>>11973381

obv not op you fucking kike

>>11970518
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>>11970892
>>11970926

unreadable and hurts the eyes

I somewhat took my time writing this, it usually is worse when i have to go faster.

>>11973457
You forgot the word 'quick' before brown.

>>11973457

cant read it, is this a poem or omethign?

>>11973457
>>11973466
Also it's 'jumps' so you get the s in there.

>>11973466
fixed ,I should have looked it up before writing it instead of copying >>11972608

>>11973478
my bad, like I just said, I should've looked it up, but I've written 2 "s" under the sentences. Sometimes I write the "s" in cursive, but i don't like how they look at all with my handwriting.

>>11972801
WoodRiver - The Rinehart Fountain Pen Kit Chrome

>>11970435
>Using a pseud pen
>lol my handwriting sucks
(You)

>>11973330
Legibility is a spook

>>11973658
I really blotted your inkies, didn't I?

>>11971187
>>11971370
Yes. People with bad handwriting have bad handwriting in most cases because their brain thinks faster than they can write. Obviously a smart person can learn good handwriting and obviously a dumb person can have bad handwriting. It's just a rule of thumb.

>>11972161
>>11972608
post feet plz

Here is mine, obviously it looks better if I slow down and out effort in but this is what I get when I'm at a reasonable pace in class
I've never liked writing large amounts in pen, I use a 0.5mm mechanical pencil because I like the feel