/lit/ - Literature

>>11963244
No sorry, I don't know about Kierkegaard's specific ideas on this subject but I'd be really interested as well because I like him quite a lot.

However, I think you might find these videos interesting and germane, OP, if you haven't encountered them already.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=104bw0svnCU

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1WQmdu0ywXQ

Can you make a list of writers/historical milestones you look at, OP?

>>11963747
This is what I can get ahold of at the moment, it isn't much.

Plato
Augustine
Some Nietzsche
Kierkegaard

If you have some, please suggest works or writers please.

>>11963244
Free will only exists if you rise above being a slave to temporal pleasure and things. Otherwise, you're just along for the ride.

>>11963244
Have you read Ruda's "Abolishing Freedom"? I think you'll find it very helpful for your research. Speaking of Kierkegaard, you may look at "The Concept of Anxiety", particularly chapter 4.

>>11963838
There’s gotta be some Hegelian take on free will you can stick in there

>>11963244
Our concept of "free will" comes from a fundamental flaw in Western metaphysics, placing object-ness and being as the foundation of existence, with this flaw having infected nearly every aspect of Western philosophy and life. Our free will is defined as our ability to select objects from a list, with our selection criterion either contra-causal space magic or the result of other selections of objects from a list ad infinium (causal determinism.) Analyzing conscious creativity as an evolutionary process mirroring that of Darwinian systems reveals the nature of creativity and our self-creative freedom.

A Darwinian process is comprised of variation->selection->reproduction, which is mirrored in consciousness as question->choice->action. Questions are the generative aspect of conscious creativity, a quest to satisfy some desire, creating a variety of potentialities which choice selects from according to satisfying criterion (reason.) We are also able to ask questions about our questions, our selection criterion (reasoning) and our actions, and so through the flexibility of language and narrative human consciousness is actually the Darwinian process that is able to bend on itself and self-modify. The attached diagram depicts this visually, with the question mark corresponding to questioning, period choice/reason, and the exclamation points action. This self-creative freedom isn't an absolute, but a skill with constraints, with the amount of self-creative ability one has dependent on one's ability to self-question.

>>11964048
Conscious creativity can also be characerized as temporal selection: we are able to do what evolution cannot and model possible futures, creating and selecting among potentialities to make a reality through action. Among these future states is future potential alternatives to how we currently are, which is the reason why we have subjective experience and self-awareness; self-awareness and self-query are synonyms. Awareness itself is a question mark, a request for information.

We're more than mechanisms to propagate our genes and memes, we are evolution itself evolved, self-creating creativity. Substance metaphysics has led to the conclusion that the self as an object is the nature of self-awareness, a self-representation relating to itself, but this being-self is secondary to the becoming-self which is a question questioning itself, created to facilitate self-inquiry. The existential implication is that meaning comes not from terminal satisfaction and enduring significance, but rather that meaning is an inexhaustible multiplicity without any end-in-itself, a forever growth of meaning and possibility. The answer to the meaning life is an ever-present question mark, and it is through this that we have a relationship with existence.

>>11964052

I like this a lot, but it does not discuss the question I really had to start. Namely the origins of how we determine our free will, our ability to choose. How did we justify having free will in regard to our relationship with our creator, whichever one that might be.

Evolution is one thing and I enjoyed your write-up on it. But I would like to know about the cultural development and handling of free will

>>11964052
>>11964048
Great work this sounds incredibly similar to my own thoughts. I use different language than you do. Potentiality, actuality, limitation, desire.