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Read 2 sentences in any articles on the front page of r/nofap. Read 2 "paragraphs" of any of the ebooks that they paste links to, or related tripe like The Rational Male and 48 Laws of Power.

The writing is mind-blowingly bad. Before I encountered it I did not realize sincere writing could be this poor. It is so self-satisfied and pompous. Like Youtube club penguin hack tutorials except hundreds upon hundreds of pages in length.

The sentiment behind the community seems generally good and moral. Why is the content that comes from it so universally piss-poor? There is lots of bad Christian propaganda, but then there is also Kierkegaard and Dostoevsky. There is lots of bad AA propaganda but then there is IJ which is at least fun.

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>>11951306
You are dealing with low IQ cretins who wish only to replace the hand with a corporeal body. Usually such a person isn't very bright. They're not really "cured", they're still hypersexual in thought and this manifests in their writing.
They too are attempting to moderate their stance on the question of self-abuse in order to sell it to the masses. Weak tepid opinions seeking to win the approval of others usually incorporates poor writing, trying to appease or buildup to a certain point rather than just laying the truth out there and emphatically defending it.
The reason so many people do not take the concept of sexual abstinence seriously is precisely due to the nofap community and contemporary literature surrounding it. They just make a poor case.

Kellog in contrast was a fantastic writer. Read some of his works on Diet or Plain Facts for Old and Young. Disagree with him all you want, he wasn't a bad writer.

Here is a passage from the his aforementioned book
>Emission not Necessary to Health.—If it be argued that an occasional emission is necessary to relieve the overloaded seminal vesicles, we reply, the same argument has been used as an apology for unchastity; but it is equally worthless in both instances. It might be as well argued that vomiting is a necessary physiological and healthful act, and should occur with regularity, because a person may so overload his stomach as to make the act necessary as a remedial measure. Vomiting is a diseased action, a pathological process, and is occasioned by the voluntary transgression of the individual. Hence, it is as unnecessary as gluttony, and must be wasteful of vitality, even though rendered necessary under some circumstances. So with emissions. If a person allows his mind to dwell upon unchaste subjects, indulges in erotic dreams, and riots in mental lasciviousness, he may render an emission almost necessary as a remedial effort. Nevertheless, he will suffer from the loss of the vital fluid just the same as though he had not, by his own concupiscence, rendered it in some degree necessary. And as it would have been infinitely better for him to have retained and digested food in his stomach instead of ejecting it—provided it were wholesome food—so it would have been better for him to have retained in his system the seminal fluid, which would have been disposed of by the system and probably utilized to very great advantage in the repair of certain of the tissues.

>> No.11951715

>>11951306
religious people are on average almost a full 10 iq points below their secular counterparts, the somatic fascist communities online, which are already in dangerous proximity to vegans and hippies suffer from the crosspollination with actual religitard and fascist thought. If you mix all 4 of them you get 90 iq subs ranting about how Jewish broadcast pixels of african anuses made them want to fuck 14 year old boys dressed like anime girls. The whole thing is more proof that God is just a metaphor for the involuntary and self effacing irony if complex animal behavior, and the systems derived from that horrible confusion of desires that arises from slightly more intelligent flesh monsters bumbling in the deep.
>>11951701
Hey look a pseud

>> No.11951721

>>11951306
>why is antimasturbation propaganda so badly written
They were trying to type with one hand

>> No.11951736

>>11951701
Really stupid argument. It's not in the least bit comparable. Also it's clearly maliciously making this comparison to condition a negative association. Absolutely manipulative.

>> No.11951751

>>11951306
Because you're reading works written by people obsessed with masturbation.

>> No.11951767

>>11951736
>Really stupid argument. It's not in the least bit comparable
Says the person who failed to substantiate his own (i.e. why?).

>> No.11951804

>>11951306
Because you’re reading crappy self help and advice books

>> No.11953082

>>11951715
>Hey look a pseud
The irony is delicious.