/lit/ - Literature

>>11937285
Because Jews don't like Christianity and Jews decide what the mainstream is. So anybody alienated or edgy will choose to be Christian

>>11937285
look at what twitter does to people. or boomers on facebook. thots and braindead scum on instagram. everyone is represented on it's adequate platform.also, fuck your nigger mum op.

>>11937285
Its called being a contrarian fuck

>This lot
>Christians
Only in their deranged minds they have a spec of Christian morals.
It's just that their worldview is getting shook and they seek refuge in the empty box of the church.
If anything, they are literally the AntiChrist posing as Christ, hahahahahaha!

>>11937343
Most Christians have zero Christian morals. The gap between people who actually follow the Bible and 4channers makes the difference between the latter and your average 'christian' negligible.

>>11937292
lol
>>11937295
this but you seem retarded
>>11937302
this

>>11937354
I agree. Most people in the developed world have no real belief in god, whether they realize it or not.

For some people, identity is everything. I can understand and sympathize with them, but that's about the extent of it.

Who gets to define "right-wing extremism"

>>11937357
why do faggots such as yourself feel the need to ,make these pointless posts. you're like a child running into a room of adults and shrieking something inane

>>11937368
>Who gets to define "right-wing extremism"
History.

>>11937374
because history is definitely an unbiased objective science and not massively colored by the present political-religious dogma

>>11937285
Because they hate capitalism but are so indoctrinated by it that they lash out at other things.

Turn to God, Save yourself

>>11937379
Someone wanting to murder millions of people because of their race is pretty objective thing to witness.

>>11937354
True.
Todays average 4channer is just a parody of his parents, bosses etc.

>>11937384
Assuming you believe what you're told

>>11937373
>we are adults
>da joos rule da world
>muh boomers
>muh thots
>le nigger XD

trying to start some discussion with someone such as yourself because your worldview rarely stands on its own beyond hugboxes/hurtboxes

>>11937368
The Oxford English Dictionary

>>11937383
Define God.

>>11937388
Really? would you like to have a calm discussion about race differences and Jewish influence in the 20th century?

>>11937386
>le holocaust didn't happen and hitler didnt want to exterminate millions of europeans because I read so online bro!

>>11937357
we cockchoke your kind here nigger

>>11937392
define define

>>11937302
>People are only Christian to be contrarian
>1700 years of domination by the church.
Anon, I...

>>11937402

Christianity's hold on society was cut loose around the time of the French revolution. 200 years without and the entire world is a fucking cesspit. Turn to God. Save yourselves. Save the Church.

>>11937398
>le holocaust did happen and hitler wanted to eterminate millions of europeans because jews told me in school bro!

>>11937398
Yeah it's totally a coincidence that this is the one view that is illegal in most of Europe. People definitely outlaw beliefs because they are just so sure that they are true

>>11937418
Indeed.
And the people who told you in school were reiterating the people who actualy witnessed and studied the events. Holocaust isa fact. Hitlers plan to exterminate slavs after the war is a fact.

>>11937427
It's illegal because there is a strata of people, people like you, that want to deny it and use it as political ammunation for your fascist, racist ideology.

>>11937427
Because it fucking happened in Europe and you don't have conversations about rope in the hanged man's house malaka.

somewhat of a generalisation, but it seems to me like a lot of young white antisocial teens who feel like they lack an identity and turn to the internet to find some group they can be a part of. through either 4chan or youtube recommend videos, they stumble upon the "new" right wing thing currently going on, and they fall into it from there our of their desperation to find a group to join into. ive seen it with people I know who don't even believe the stuff they spout, but they feel like being a part of this group is really important to them

>>11937437
To iterate further, fascist and naziboos want to delagitimize the jews and the holocaust, you want to deglatiimize their history.
This is why holocaust denial must be a crime.

>>11937437
uh huh. Couldnt be because...it's a complete fabrication and if we're allowed to speak openyl about it everybody quickly realizes it. Like, say..race differences, another thing Europe tries to band iscussion of, which is extremely obvious to anybody that thinks about it for 5 minutes and reads the related literature.

No, we just HAVE to ban it because of the latent Fascist threat looming over us, how convenient.

>>11937395
yea sure
As a an ex-holocaust denying nazi, I see the jews wide influence as the result of:
1. their culture being business minded as a result of hundreds of years of being able to perform usury after the pope deemed it a heretical act
2. The Diaspora allowing them to have a unified idea of nation which transcended borders
3. The best way to get rich is to be born rich and since they got rich from being modern history's bankers, tied with a strong sense of nation, exclusivity, and fighting off oppressors they built their own communities while not giving a shit about most of the world.

they tend to swing liberal because
1. wealthiness tends to breed highly educated children
2. education opens people's minds
3. open minded people are typically liberal

They ahve so much influence in key industries for the same reasons they have maintained their influence over hundreds of years. They were able to control a lot of money.

They don't have a collective agenda, they don't want to see whitey die out, they aren't a hive mind, yes they see the holocaust as a major tragedy and an attack on jews (because it was). Imagine how mad you are about seeing millions of migrants flooding into your country, now imagine how mad you'd be if white people were actually having their shit taken by force on a massive, systemic level.

>>11937416
I tried. I can't pretend to believe in it. plus christianity is based on what jewish scholars say and their obession with israel is a big no for me. As far as I'm concered Goldtsein wants me to be christian.

>>11937448
You are quite literally retarded and reasoning on pure emotion and paranoia.

>>11937399
lmao, tough guy over here

>>11937449
They have influence because they're tribalistic and form mafias. It's not a mystery and they arent the only race who do it, theyre just better at it, and they have a high average IQ.

>>11937455
Fantastic argument. It is totally normal to be imprisoned for having opinions.

>>11937451
False. Christianity's followers today are the ones who have the obsession. The actual church fathers. The actual doctrine has no such obsession. Jews are the enemy and turning to God is the way to the light. You must read for yourself what was written all those years ago. Don't let some kike worshiper try and "teach" it to you.

>>11937461
everyone is tribalistic

>>11937368
In germany the government put 0.5 billion euro into anti-hate, anti-hatespeech, islam-acceptance and lgbtq+ acceptance groups from 2015 till today. These groups educate the Volk what hatespeech is.

While there was "only" one murder carried out by right-extremist means in the last three years, there where 130+ honour killings done for religious motives.

The MSM don't tell you that. But everyone who looks for the sources (official police statistics, PEW, Statista) is aware of that.

Younger people are more likely to surf the web. Furthermore, young people tend to take the opposite political stance than that of their parents for a few years.

When there is really something wrong in suciety, there youngsters will find evidence for their narrative and stick to it; sometimes for decades.

>>11937430
i dont think people deny that it happened entirely, its just the number of dead and cause of death that is debated

>>11937461
and why do they have higher IQs?
not because their skin is white or because they are "god's chosen people"
its because they are a tiny portion of the world, but have a history rooted in economic sense, which breeds wealth, which breeds educated people

>>11937461

Italians also form mafias and yet they aren't really successful nowadays.

>>11937473
To varying degrees. Europeans within the Hajnal line are unqiuly exogamous, having banned cousin marriage for almost 2000 years and forming extremely contract-based societies in contrast to the clannish behaviour that typifies most cultures.

jews are at the very opposite end, they live in other people's countries for milleniums and refuse to integrate, retaining a separate genetic profile and culture. There are very few comparable groups on earth, and none as successful as Jews.

>>11937449
>>11937418
I taught history at Columbia University and several courses in Greece, teaching about World War Two from the Nazi Perspective. The Holocaust, or industrial genocide, did occur, but it was on such a small scale. The Soviets mostly overemphasized the scale of Nazi atrocities to shine the spotlight on the Germans instead of the Russians. The Nazis, for all intents and purposes, followed the Geneva conventions in the countries they occupied. That is not to say camps did not exist, but one was not arbitrarily placed in a concentration camp, at least from the Nazi perspective. Most Jews placed in the camps were accused of spreading Bolshevism and being fifth column agents from Russia, and providing support to the Soviets when the Red Army and the Nazis signed their non-aggression pact. Poland was known for it's historical Jewish presence, and it was argued by the Nazis that the Jews in Poland aided the Soviets during the Polish-Soviet War in the 1920s, and they would do so again. Most of the Nazi atrocities occurred on the Eastern Front, where they were facing an enemy whose civilians, if not greeting the Germans as liberators from Communism, were actively aiding the Red Army, ergo designating themselves as enemy combatants.

>>11937445
Exact same thing that happens with Isis followers,anarchowhatevers, but on the reverse.

>>11937473
Clearly untrue.

>>11937498
False flagging and larping /pol/tard.

>>11937498
I don't want to get into what the Holocaust actually was, because Ill be here all day and I have to go to class, but from what I understand, the "holocaust" was just a run of the mill atrocity being committed by major world powers in the mid 20th century.

>>11937492
Ashkenazi Jews were selected for professions that require high IQ during the past 1000 years of living in EUrope. Almost none of them were farmers or craftsmen, they were almost all in some form of business or a comparably demanding profression. When you combine this with the naural Jewish propensity for extreme clannishness, which they share with their semitic cousins, you get the explosion of Jewish power that began around 500 years ago and then went into overdrive in the early 19th century.

>>11937479
>sUciety

*these youngsters

fuck me

>>11937285
Isn't fight club about low achieving males who resort to archetype masculine emulation? The narrator is essentially dead on the inside in regards to his male-oriented mind and he sees Dureden in the same way people stranded in the desert see mirages.

I think they're falling for some weird fascist ideology that doesn't even take itself seriously. Besides, everything here is sarcastic or ironic, so I wouldn't read too much into it.

>>11937471
This guy kind of gets it but the Quran is the answer

>>11937495
I don't mean every race/nationality
everyone finds a tribe and tries to fit into it
the go to for everyone (obviously not EVERYONE, but more normal) used to be nation and race, but now its politcal affiliation, sexual orientation, fandom, career, etc.

>>11937511
>you get the explosion of Jewish power that began around 500 years ago and then went into overdrive in the early 19th century.
Wrong. The only reason they got that power and were involved in those professions because the European elite gave them power and only allowed them to work in those professions.

This image sums it up pretty well. Just look at the dude spazzing in the previous replies

>>11937514
Fun stops when blood and tear is shed.

>>11937524
The european elite variously made alliances with Jewish power or expelled them from their countries. That doesn't contradict what I said above.

It is obvious that the elite at various times found Jewish usury extremely useful. The idea that Jews were somehow 'forced' into the extremely lucrative business of money-lending is laughably retarded.

>>11937471
what happened to this website

>>11937445
This cat is onto something. It's all about the sensation of belonging to somewhere. It applies to everyone regardless of race or age, why wouldn't it apply for young people of our time?

>>11937517
>the quran
>blow yourself up along with non believers
>kill everybody else

ill take christianity

>>11937574
>get 72 virgins instead of dying for israel
sounds based to me

>>11937536
> implying you aren't some one new.
Newsflash, literally everyone who was here 10 years ago is now gone.

>>11937583
I'm still here.

>>11937285
People who are unsatisfied about their life turn to ideology -whether that be politics, religion, whatever- as a means of coping. They subjugate their own personhood to some framework in which their own inability to satisfactorily act in the world is justified.
I think you see this very clearly with the whole 'degeneracy' obsession poltards seem to have, to use an example related to 4chan. I obviously don't have the statistics on hand, but I doubt your average poltard is a sociable, sexually active adolescent. 'Degeneracy' then is a way of devaluing the very things they never got to experience -friendships, intimate relationships, positive socialization with peers, etc. while framing that inability as something positive or beneficial.
Many more such examples are found in all walks of life.

>>11937507
It is a fact. More people died in the Soviet Union's concentration camps than could ever die in Nazi Germany's. Not to mention the millions of Germans expelled all over Europe after the war and Nuremberg trials, who were used as slave labor and never returned to their families. The winners wrote the history.

>>11937583
I've been here off and on for more than ten years now. Pretty pathetic, now that I think about it. My own kid is almost old enough to become a chantard.

Heil Hitler!

>>11937292
fpbp

>>11937343
>empty box of the church.
where do you buy your fedoras?

>>11937292
FPBP

>>11937643
I only wear beanies, sry...

>>11937386
Dude did the past even really happen???

>>11937732
The true answer: most likely not entirely the way you think it did

>>11937611
>Degeneracy' then is a way of devaluing the very things they never got to experience -friendships, intimate relationships

i doubt this. the whole degeneracy fucking up society thing has facts behind it. believe me, nobody would want to believe that stuff if it wasnt backed up by evidence, not even /pol/

its not like that idea came out of nowhere, chastity (in women at least) has been valued forever

>>11938083
chastity of both sexes features in jsut about every major religion

of course that's no fun, but suggesting that it is just born of resentment or something is ridiculous, it is literally encoded in the most sacred and influential texts ever written

Larping

>>11938083
>>11938096
Its pretty clearly born out of resentment
Sacred texts have it because, back in the day it actually made healthier people.
No pollacks actually go to church, help the poor, or do anything that improves the community, they just hate "npcs" because they either are social outcasts, or are just having adolescent rebellion

>>11938789
i think the actual point of enforced chastity is social engineering. It makes people more productive

>>11938789
>back in the day it actually made healthier people.

so that suddenly changed sometime after 1960?

>>11937583
I'm still here.

Don't forget, you're here forever.

>>11938797
Until you blow out.
T. Ex productive burnout neet

>>11937285
Read up on pendulum theory.

The right will eventually become the status quo and being left wing will be the new edgy thing to be. So the cycle repeats throughout history.

>>11938843
Yea
Birth control and understanding stds

>>11937611
But that's the logical thing to do. I would also like to point out that "beta male" chimps tend to gain in sexual success during times of instability. If you're a loser under the current system you try as hard as you can to shake it up

>>11937498
>taught history at Columbia
>the holocaust was exaggerated :D

Nice LARP faggot.

>>11938083
>>11938096
Of course it's from resentment. Ugly fat men have been in power from the dawn of time and wanted to keep pussy under control. Basically men are too cowardly to compete for mates and want a monopoly on pussy. That is the real reason religions control women.

>>11939233
why the fuck would the ugly fat men in power make monogamy the rule instead of creating harems?

>>11939272
Some did create harems, depending on the time and place. And it is entirely feasible to have concubines.
But to answer your question, so women are controlled while the potential jealousy of other men is also controlled. If the lower rank males don't get a scrap of pussy, they'll turn on you.

>>11939310
the lower males in Islam seem to just blow themselves up and wnader around other peoples countries raping

>>11937583

>>11937343
You deny what you are afraid of.

>>11939233
I mean this post speaks some truth, believe it or not, but still religion is not the cause of that. The cause of that is indolence, greed, slothfulness, gluttony. Sin, basically.

Imagine if someone came down with a message against money publicly. That’s your answer right there. Then the women wouldn’t care because they’d be virtuous.

Imagine

Retard echo chambers and propaganda.

>>11938986
The cycle is not
Right <-->Left
Its Conflict-->aftermath-->peacetime-->resentment-->escalation-->Conflict

> being this serious

Pic related, a children's department store. Try to explain it without references to postmodernism & other shit.

>>11939095
>birth control and understanding STDs

abortion/unwanted pergnancies and stds are still rampant. id say a little self control and careful selection of a partner would be useful today

being outcasted by society leads to contempt for society. contempt for society leads to the need to be contrarian. contrarianism in 2018 usually means saying things that others find edgy or offensive

>>11937445
This. I used to have a friend who was into this kind of thing but he didn't even know their talking points, for him just being immersed in that environment was enough.
Even when i was really far right i never understood how people could think you could go to /pol/ and get redpilled, they almost never even post their infographics, there's no information to take in. I used to get so fucking irritated but only years later do i understand.

>>11939683
What's the name for saying things that contrarians find edgy or offensive?

>relentless attack on white people
>destruction of hetero normative patriarchal society
>atheism and nihilism destroying the moral fabric of societies around Europe/the West
>mass immigration resulting in minority status for people in their native homeland
>sentiments of nationalism and ethnic pride are met with angry cries of fascism and racism
>academic institutions are controlled by Marxist and far leftist professors
>media and entertainment is owned by an (((elite))) that pushes their own propaganda onto the ignorant masses


hmmm... I wonder why.. I just can't quite put my finger on it.

>>11939695
i dont think you can offend actual contrarians,they dont have any real beliefs

I think it mostly comes down to the hostile culture of the chans. Nobody is interested in getting along just to get along so if you say something stupid somebody is probably going to call you an asshole. I look at the left as a bunch of cultists with their fear of deviating from the group. Here there's no pressure to conform and there's no real way for the "cult leaders" to institute those social controls and stop people from saying the wrong things which prevents other people from becoming cultists.

>>11939095
Reminder that Pope Paul VI is a saint now, reaffirming the Catholic Church's total opposition to birth control.

>>11939689
Not that right wing issues aren't legitimate.

>>11939701
It’s fckin hilarious that some fash asshole had to mod this. As repugnant as I thought the original was it was far more subtle than this (not to say it was actually particularly subtle in the first place). But if there is one thing that fascists hate it’s art that requires the viewer to do any work whatsoever, it *has* to be spelled out.

With the original it challenges the anti-communist to ask themselves why they themselves aren’t a fascist if they fight on the same side as fascists. With the additional two panels and the Jew noses the character is removed from the viewers position and immediately jumps to a conclusion the viewer is likely not ready to adopt.

>>11937611
Nah nigga, sometimes people with conviction have a different opinion on things without secretly seeking what they denounce

>>11939710
>they dont have any real beliefs
Based and redpilled. Anything else is pure, pathetic arrogance. You know nothing

>>11937581
It is righteous and correct

wtf is this /pol/ tier thread

The rise of the far-right is inevitable. This was predicted all the way back in the late 1800s.

No books about this stuff?

>>11939872
>op posts thread basically asking why people go on /pol/
>"grug no like nazi boogieman, grug want no discussion outside of wordstack"

Alex come back to the discord

Because they want to belong to something. I have seen an example of one of these in real life, its very obvious hes an incel no lifer, and has grasped on to this to feel special and "stand out of the crowd" as he puts it, but everyone hates him for his shit opinions and beliefs

>>11937343
>im an atheist but still follow the judeochristian values

You fedoras are fucking hypocrites

>>11937285
I find it derives from the early 2000s internet libertarianism ethos where many anons believed the internet would be a place of complete free speech and sharing of ideas. That desire to maintain that status quo fell into conflict with what they saw as SJWs impeding on their ability to joke and post whatever they wanted, and evolved into an anti-liberalism/anti-leftism. I could also see a need to belong where many anons are reclusive nerds or losers who found their family on 4chan (usually through /b/ and lately through /pol/) and resort to adopting whatever ideology is shilled to fit in, and believing Christianity would give them a moral core against the "degeneracy" they see.

>>11939947
> religion and right-wing extremism are — seriously — the attributes of /pol/
I shiggy diggy.

>>11940089
Good post but I think you miss a crucial part that /pol/ embraced and pro portages the image of being a far-right wing which introduced even more of those people here. They also turned 4chan’s “final boss of internet’ and lurk moar esotericism to evalangicalism by propping up r/Donald. It is a feedback loop that feeds on the perception of 4chan than the actual status of the website itself

>>11937611
>'Degeneracy' then is a way of devaluing the very things they never got to experience -friendships, intimate relationships, positive socialization with peers, etc.
No, I'm pretty sure that is considered anti-degenerate behavior on /pol/. Comments like these make me wonder if leftists have even bothered trying to understand the essence of the online right.

>>11937383
>Turn to God, Save yourself
Help save others as well

>>11940121
>pro portages
Propagate

>>11940095
>I old meme non-argument

>>11939979
retarded brainlet NPC
read a book

>>11940165
shutup faggot

>>11939751
I don't think you understood the original or the body of work that artist has put out.

>>11939810
Its obvious why you would be threatened by spiders but it isnt obvious why you would be threatened by gays.

>>11937285
>you unironically believe this is true
22 and Me :Living With Chromosomal Deficiencies in the Modern Era by Tim Ferris

>>11940185
He’s a fascist trying to promote fascism. I’ve seen his work.

>>11940194
I look at it the opposite way. The fear of spiders is mostly irrational while the destruction that gay culture has already inflicted on society is incredibly obvious to anyone who hasn't been sucked in by the "whatever they do behind closed doors" rhetoric. The acceptance of hedonistic gay culture has coincided with the dissolution of marriage, meaning an increased divorce rate and all of the problems that people being raised by single parents brings, like the increased drug use and other criminal behavior for example. Even if we ignore that and focus solely on gays, their relationships are rife with drug use, domestic violence, and the spread of disease as a result of anal sex.

Gays are a much bigger problem than any spider and it would irrational to ignore it.

>>11940213
>The acceptance of hedonistic gay culture has coincided with the dissolution of marriage, meaning an increased divorce rate and all of the problems that people being raised by single parents brings,
>gay people existing are the reason why straight people are breaking up and raise kids by themselves
Uh huh...

>>11937285
>why are so many young males that frequent edgy internet forums like 4chan turning to religion and right-wing extremism?

no male spaces without feminist intrusion
no masculinity without feminist review
no politics without feminist insistence
and men see the blatant hedonism, corruption, and destitution of the current culture while renouncing it, correctly recognizing it as destructive

we are going back to our roots. order and self-control is a male preoccupation

>>11940213
Spiders actually are dangerous while everything you posted is just a post hoc rationalisation for your gut reactions.

>>11940243
What exactly is ad hoc about my reasoning? If we suppose society hadn't yet accepted gay culture and I was arguing that we shouldn't I would be using the same arguments.

>>11937302
there's more to it than just that. A level of irony here got taken very seriously by a group who believed in it. Now these groups are far more predominant while influencing other brainlets.

>>11940142
Let me tell you a parable. There once was a community of people on the internet who thought posting NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER was fun just because of the effect it made (or would made) on common folk. As they all were fed up with common folk's ways of virtual communication and hierarchies, they had no need to explain the meaning of their posts to each other. New people came by, and, while they mostly successfully integrated, it was noticed. Codification (The Rules, etc.) was one of the answers to the problem of newfags. Others argued that the ever growing inflow could only be countered by raising of the bar, and banishing of easygoing visitors (zero tolerance to newfags and spoonfeeding, week-long board wipes, etc.). Some foretold that collective action on anonymous imageboard would be impossible, and it wouldn't stop the tide. Finally, some of the latter noticed that the only thing that was changing was that food came to the trolls instead of trolls coming for their food via raiding normalfaggots' websites (the practice had already been dying at the time).

As it was meant to be, clueless people started frequenting imageboards. A certain subgroup of them, the ones that honestly believed that other posters also don't like niggers, women, etc., found an overly welcoming home there. Any explanations would went over their heads, so, finally, the immune response appeared in the form of containment board (obviously, that was not the only group that would be better off neutralized that way). That's when the fun started: apparently, the public gathered that way would stomach most inane bullshit if it was in line with their simple beliefs. Since then, /pol/ is the laughingstock of any sophisticated internet user, and its global saga is the source of lulz. The scale is enormous: “alt-right” and “incels” are as bad as a journalism as exploding vans, but guess how many people take that seriously? Tsk.

>>11937285
Christianity is for the cretins, a religion for the undesirable, /pol/tards gain strength from the conviction that they're strong due to their common "beliefs" and so they had to cling onto something that was already established in the west, but still removed from the mainstream.

>>11940386
>common folk
Autistic

>the actual point of your post
You could've said "trolls aren't taken seriously by anyone outside of 4chan" and saved the energy. You either don't go on /pol/ or are in some deep denial about the the entire board because a lot of those retards take themselves very seriously, otherwise it would be like it used to; apolitical, generally counter-cultural, discusses world events but no real concesus o political agenda.

I miss the /natsoc/ days, but I also blame that attitude for teaching those retards how to brainwash newfags. Now its just a wasteland of self-righteous faggots who would suck trumps dick at the first chance they got.
nu-pol is full of pitiful snowflakes that treat 4chan like far-right tumblr. Political sensitivity is at the core of their beliefs and it's pathetic. If you jumped ship, consider yourself lucky, but this trash-fire is too ugly for me to look away

>>11940440
You seem to mistake the ones who are trolled for trolls.