/lit/ - Literature

Ezra Pound wrote the Pisan Cantos on toilet paper

How much hipster/art-hoe pussy do you think I would get if I bought a Hemingwrite?

>>11926554
TP probably has less seepage issues than moleskin, especially back in the day whe toilet paper was pretty industrial

>>11926558
this is real life

>>11926558
I prefer the Hemingreich.

>>11926558
>$647 CAD
Why not just buy some shitty computer and then not connect it to the internet?

>>11926628
Too many distractions.

>>11926628
you think any 5/10 hipster/art-hoe QT's will let me touch them in the cunt if I'm rocking an eeepc from the early 2000's?
And anways, the Hemingwrite has a mechanical keyboard

>>11926542

For Writing by Hand: parker jotter, Zebra f series

Notebook: 70 page spiral notebook

Software: Bear, Typora, Bean

>>11926647
You find solitaire and minesweeper distracting?

>>11926542
know any online sources for good pens, paper, notebooks etc? I got a few journal books from walmart and the margin spaces are far too small for my handwritting. Also looking to get myself a nice pen

>>11926558
Been watching some YouTube videos and reading the comments about this thing. Man... The people who want it are retarded
>it's e-ink! It's better than looking at LCD screen!
Not if your fucking neck is hunched over. Enjoy your headaches and ankyizng spondlytis. Only way to avoid it is prism glasses. What a fucking stupid idea.

>>11926703
Not him but I could play minesweeper for hours. Though I actually have self control so I don't.

>>11926840
I use mainly Ebay for my stationary needs.

Some good paper brands are Rhodia, Clairefontaine and Japanese ones like Apica, Maruman, etc.

>he doesn't have a BBP

>>11926932
Make a hairshirt and force yourself to wear it. Say to yourself you'll only take it off when you have more control again.

>>11926542
Namisu Orion on Clairefontaine

>>11926980
>lame tricks to force self control
If you'd read the post you would know that I said I have control and don't play minesweeper for hours. Self control can't be forced

>>11926542
Get a laptop with Microsoft word. That’s literally it

>>11927312
Yes it can, it's literally how you build more of it. You recognize when you feel the urge and you learn to do something else. Just install a skeleton distro on a Chromebook, does what that pic does for $125.

>>11926567
Get a Minimalism Art Journal, zero seepage at all

>>11927340
If you don't truly want to do something you never will. You can work on and learn control but you cannot force it, force implies you don't want it. Learning is not forcing

>>11926558
This is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. I need a break from the internet.

>>11927381
You don't understand.
You pick up on the fact that every time you stop writing is to shitpost or play video games and you remove them from the equation. Get a laptop without an adblock browser or video games on it, or write with pen and paper; just don't spend $500 doing so like a moron.

>>11926542
From what I've seen the more people focus on pens and writing books the less likely it is that they have anything worthwhile to write.

>>11927399
I don't know where I asked for tips on self control. I'm doing perfectly well without them. I get the feeling you haven't read a single word I've written. Typical /lit/

>>11927403
>I don't know where I asked for tips on self control
You didn't. You just posted factually incorrect information and evidently don't enjoy being corrected. You sound like a defeatist m8, I hope you have a good day.

>>11927412
You sound schizophrenic m8. But thank you, likewise.

>>11926628
This.
A used thinkpad with minimalist linux and emacs/vim is the ultimate writing instrument.

what'svthe best sub £100 fountain pen that isn't a TWSBI or second-hand?

I'm thinkig an italix parson's essential
>brass body, JOWO nib tuned by people who know what they're doing

yes?

>>11927957
Lamy Safari. It's also the best fountain pen at any price. Use with the converter and Noodler's Black ink.

>>11928152
Noodler's Heart of Darkness > Noodler's Black

My favorite pen is the Pilot Kakuno. It's light, has a triangular grip that feels great, and rather than bother with a converter, I just bought several boxes of ink cartridges. Last time I bought a pack on eBay, it was $4.58 after shipping/tax which is about a dollar cheaper than Office Depot. I really don't want to fuck around with bottles of ink, and these boxes are extremely tiny and portable. The box is roughly 1.75x2.25 inches which is smaller than a pack of gum. It's about the size of a zippo lighter, maybe? I don't have a dedicated brand of journals. I will write in just about anything so long as the cover is black.

>>11926663
Have you noticed that the f series manufacturing and/or QC process has gone to shit? Like an eight of them don't write at all, and half are scratchy with bad ink flow. Those pens used to reliably be the shit, now it's a crap shoot.

>>11926628
I'm sure you could make this with a wireless keyboard and a raspberry pi.

>>11928152
>>11928205
Noodler's Burgundy and De'Atramentis Petrol are my favorite inks. Both are gorgeous and unique.

Jinhao is based fountain pen and cheap as hell too its built like a tank. Costs $1.36

>>11929003
Looks like a Lamy Safari clone. Wonder if they're made in the same factory.

I just use a bunch of those $0.49 composition notebooks and a cheap mechanical pencil. I mostly write during my smoke breaks at work. A-Am I going to make it?

Recommend me some nice needle point pens lads. something that lasts forever

Just bought a Metropolitan Pilot Fountain pen
How'd I do?

>>11929261
Uni-ball Signo Needle UM-151ND
the blue black ink is the smoothest imo

>>11929079
Sure. From the looks of it, most if not all of the meme hardcover blank books are overpriced trash anyway.
From the note taking thread:
>>11926315

>>11929049
No, Lamy is made in Germany. The reason why a Lamy costs around $20 - $30 and the Chinese knock-offs $3 is because Lamy doesn't employ human slaves, gives their workers a proper wage and retirement fund, follows standards to protect the environment, and of course they originally designed the pen. All of these things add to the final cost.

Cheaper Lamys are made in a fully automated process, high end models like the Lamy 2000 are more hand made. But all is done in the same factory in Germany.

The pen in OP's pic is an example of a pen that is outsourced from China. Since YAFA bought the Conklin brand and moved all the production to China.

>>11929292
You can't do better from a cost/performance standpoint.

>>11929292
>he bought a fountain pen

Save yourself, before it's too late.

>>11929546
How are those penbbs pens?

>>11926542
My tools are Scrivener, headphones, porn, arrogance, and really loud music.

>>11926542
>Shall we have a thread about the tools of the writing trade?
now how to write. how you write is irrelevant. fuck stick.

>>11929471
Alright, bro, just asking.

>>11929546
Fuck, I'm super jelly. I write really tiny and quickly, so I want a pen that has good flow but is at least western Extra Fine. Pretty hard requirements for someone who can't really afford much more than a $40 pen right now.

>>11929585
You are drunk.

>>11929503
>>11929546
Is it gay to use a fountain pen at school for note taking?

>>11929795
Only if it's one of those giant multicolored torpedoes. If it's a more modest design you're fine.

>>11929566
They are solid writers and the quality is great for the price. The pens are well balanced and the section is the ideal size for me (neither too narrow nor too meaty) Something peculiar about the nib is that they are designed to have a sightly "bent tip". Overall my favorite Chinese brand, love those acrylics.

>>11929580
>porn
This is an anti tool. Something that distracts and draws the mind into an unproductive abyss.

>>11929965
You believe it's an anti tool most likely, because you haven't seen it mastered. I've more than a few times used my sex drive and background in hardcore degeneracy to be the fuel for my works. I used it all throughout creative writing projects beginning in High school all the way through University. My experiences with sex and porn have been nothing, but gifts. Nothing to feel bad about. You just have to maintain an iron grip on your self control. It's easier said than done. You need to be conscious of when you really would benefit from a little wank. Tbh I believe any experience that doesn't kill you is a tool you can use to become a better writer. It also all depends on how you draw your inspirations. Back in school I mainly wrote surrealist body horror. The spine of those works came from my fetishes at the time. I'm currently trying to write a novel dealing deeply with chronic masturbation. In this book the character just devolves more and more due to his lack of self control. It's a simple idea, but there's a lot of room to screw with it. I'm blessed to have gone down this path IMO. My experiences with furry, scat, femdom, foot, enlargement, gore, and other forms have porn have helped me to develop my own style.

>>11929795
Does this look gay to you?

>>11926558
S.o.y.s too distracted by social media actually think that Hemingway would be proud of them looking like a faggot.

>>11930199
I'd laugh mockingly if I were Hemingway.

>>11929049
I want this.

>>11929795
No. I've been doing that since 5th grade in elementary. Literally nobody cares.

>>11929795
Only if you pull out a bottle of ink and refill. You're going to look like a fucking hipster if you do that.

The only word processor you need is a pen and paper. Anything else is faggotry.

>>11930500
>tfw you will pull out your bottle of Pilot Iroshizuku Kon-Peki during the middle of an exam and use your vintage Teutonic piston filler pen to get a good fill on that baby.

>>11926976
The Kaweco Art Sport Classic is a fucking brilliant pen. Much nicer material than the bog standard Sport Classics. And I love the size.

>>11927957
Kaweco Art Sport Classic.

>>11930507
quality cringe

Stop using fountain pens.

>>11930507
sounds lewd

>>11929580
do you have any torrent for scrivener ?

>>11930575
Just go to a piratebay mirror or something.

>>11930634
i ended up finding one already but thanks

>>11926840
Goulet Pens or Cultpens in the UK

>>11930500
fountain pen =/= dip pen

What's the deal with the India made jotters? Are they bad? Why?

>>11930830
everybody point at this idiot and laugh

>>11930981
You're an idiot, lol.

>>11931147
>image of a ouija board
but blind people can't see images

>>11930981
fountain pens and dip pens are actually different things though

>>11931282
Yes, but you can still fill a fountain pen from a bottle of ink.

>>11931397
this is why cartridges exist

>>11931411
Cartridges are obnoxious. Your only real options are black, blue, or the very occasional red. If I'm going to bother with the trouble of a fountain pen, I want my choice of colors.

>>11931548
>ever writing in a non-blue color
shiggy diggy

>>11931608
You clearly have no idea what you're missing.

>>11927586
emacs org mode (and with vim) is perfection. period
check out spacemacs

My current fountain pen is a shitty $20 Pilot one, what would be the next step up quality wise thats actually worth spending money on?

>>11926542
I have a small collection of notebooks I bought from artists at conventions, they're usually small enough to carry in my shirt pocket so that and a pen are all I need until I can get back to my room and type it up on my laptop.
Anything more than a pen, paper, and a laptop is just trying to show off.
There's nothing wrong with liking stationary, but don't be a cunt about it.

>>11931926
Platinum 3776

>>11926542

cool thread

i've only been using a single fountain pen for the last 7 years--and have been collecting ink throughout

currently have around 150 inks, like to share and trade with friends, etc.

>>11932094

been recently color cataloging it all, just finished. here's a random sample. extremely therapeutic and relaxing activity.

>>11932094
>>11932106
>empty consumerism
I'm still mad jelly though.

>>11932126

empty consumerism? but you don't know anything about me...? you're certainty is startling

i'm infueneced by kant and schiller--i think things like the introduction of color through writing aestheticize the world and open the human dimension of play, and i agree with heidegger who sees the writing instrument as not incidental to the radical uniqueness of the subject

in the last year, i've covered numerous notebooks and countless books and articles in ink. there isn't a day that goes by where i don't refill my pen at least 2-3 times; writing and editing is central to my career.

what you call empty consumerism is an attempt to drill through the mindlessness of neoliberalism and find, within its offerings, the possibility of an aesthetic escape. your judgment is skewed.

here's a random selection of some of the work i've annotated in ink but have to now digitally outline.

>>11932161

i've only used the single uncapped black and gold carene in the front/middle for 7 years; it's been remarkably sturdy and durable, writes like a dream, and has proven a great conversation starter more than once. i honestly think it's the single finest writing instrument mankind has ever designed.

i like to collect the different models and then i selectively give them out to specific colleagues and friends as gifts and commendations. i have a small network of people who now write exclusively with waterman carenes, and this makes me happy. the only pen i hold unto is the other black and gold one in the upper right corner/box--just in case the unfortunate demise of my current pen ever occurs.

>>11932161
>in the last year, i've covered numerous notebooks and countless books and articles in ink. there isn't a day that goes by where i don't refill my pen at least 2-3 times; writing and editing is central to my career.
I'm saying you spend a lot of time on collecting material objects just for the sake of it. There is no way you have that many colors without a great many of them seeing no more use than being catalogued. Unless you bought those inks all at once, or at least in a few big lots, you spend a bunch of time picking out more inks than you can practically use. I use a fountain pen myself: I know how far a bottle of ink goes.
>i'm infueneced by kant and schiller--i think things like the introduction of color through writing aestheticize the world and open the human dimension of play, and i agree with heidegger who sees the writing instrument as not incidental to the radical uniqueness of the subject
K, you planning to publish a book with colored text? Because if you're not, you're just finding some oblique philosophical justification for what is basically stamp collecting. Stamp collectors like stamps, and you like colored ink. That's really all it comes down to: a sort of hedonistic fetishism. We all do this, but that doesn't mean it can't be pointlessly extravagant.
>what you call empty consumerism is an attempt to drill through the mindlessness of neoliberalism and find, within its offerings, the possibility of an aesthetic escape. your judgment is skewed.
No idea what you're on about. My point is that the only thing Proust collected was books. You claim your collection hobby is important for your work, but you're clearly spending enough time on your tools to detract from the time available for your actual work. Proust also used to stop when he saw something interesting: just stare at a particularly pretty flower for 30 seconds straight. Aesthetic reflection and inspiration are important, but clearly your collection fulfills another role in your life.

Ink is meant to be written with, and you could fulfill your aesthetic goal by selecting a few or even just one ink you really like and buying more bottles of it as needed, but that's not what you do and it is obvious to anyone looking in from the outside as to why. It's like people who collect guitars, bicycles, or any other tool; collecting the crap you like has become at least as much of a hobby as using it. Though I'm glad for your response; seeing how a reasonably articulate person tries to justify the same masturbatory crap everyone does feels like a critique-by-analogy of academia.

>>11932364

you have too much time on your hands to respond like that to my posts. you're a weird person with a cynical and resentful approach to the world; coordinating with you seems like a chore, and therefore i won't anymore. you are simply too wrong about too many things.

>>11932380
Not that other guy, but you’re a pretentious douche. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that English isn’t your first language - because your messages are scattered with words you evidently do not understand well enough to use correctly. Moreover, your responses are bizarre in tone - you seem to be responding to somebody else entirely.

>>11932380
>coordinating with you seems like a chore, and therefore i won't anymore. you are simply too wrong about too many things.
Just say "Yep, you're right" or don't respond at all. I have not expressed anything cynical or resentful, all I've expressed is envy; if I had much more disposable income, I too would have a bigger ink collection. That I can recognize my own weaknesses in others doesn't mean I think everyone shares those weaknesses. You, however, seem to see your own weaknesses as inscrutable to others; once again, a wonderful comment on the mindset of your average academic. Good luck being a blithering faggot, I'm sure your ink collection will continue to grow in whatever worthless niche you end up occupying.

>>11931411
Using ink cartridges substracts cool points from your fountain pen usage because you can no longer claim to be environmental friendly.

>>11932468
True, but converters are annoying. I just use a syringe to refill the same cartridge with whatever ink I want.

>>11926976
The fact that I immediately understood that picture goes to show just how terrible a servant of God I really am

>>11933204
It really does. I'm a very vulgar person who's fond of dirty jokes and 4chan-tier depravity, and I didn't get it for ages.
>why the fuck is there a couch there? I don't get it.

I know this is the resident fountain pen jerk off thread but is anyone of you fags into mechanical pencils? Thinking of dropping around 40 yuros for something like a rotring.

>>11933204
I saw the meme but I'm glad I never watched it or got aroused at it.

>>11927402
Reword your sentence, man. Do you mean books that focus on the topic of writing? As in how and what to write? What's wrong with that? Agree with you on the pen thing, however.

>>11933363
I think by "writing books" he meant notepads or whatever. Kind of like how people who obsess over keyboards are never good programmers.

>>11933343
I have a rotring 800. It's a good mechanical for sure. I paid $40USD for mine, which is a good deal, but I regret it. It writes like every other mechanical out there. It just feels heavier. A Pentel Graph Gear 1000 does the same thing for half the price.

>>11933375
What kinda person says "writing books" instead of "notebooks"? Nonetheless, it's true. Good words write well on any paper.