/lit/ - Literature

first for sanderfag>wolfe

How many of you have actually read the 10 Malazan books?
Did you feel it was worth it?

>>11918340
I think The Name of the Wind doesn't pass it. I find that rather funny somehow.

What is the most important step a man can take?

>>11918362
the one where he bins a sanderson book

>>11918333
I've read all 10, and I consider it worth the effort. However, Malazan is not a series I lightly recommend to people. It takes several books before you really figure out what's going on, and even as somebody who liked the series, there's a lot of bloat there. Especially later on.

Literally posts the last line of a book what a massive faggot

>>11918432
I did

>>11918432
spoilers: the last word of the KJ bible is "Amen"

>>11918432
>I turn and walk into my home, the city, a man.

Haha get fucked anon, I just spoiled the last line of the last book I read. Got you good!

>>11918333
I've read them. Planning on a reread in the next year or three. They're cool if you can chew through books quickly. I think it would be torture for slower readers. I started getting fatigue around 6 or so. Slowed way down.

>>11918333
I've read all 10 and even though I don't regret reading them (there is a lot to like in them) I doubt I'll ever read them again. WAY too much time spent on world-building and not nearly enough of the actual overall story. Even by the end of the last book you'll still be scratching your head over why things happened the way they did.

>>11918515
Hey wait -- I've shilled this incredible line many times on sffg. I thought the whole book was lost up until that last page. Have I truly met another fan?

>>11918432
Ooh ooh I'm gonna do it too!

>Arthur Ormsby

>>11918424
>>11918534
>>11918544
Thanks for the input.
I really like the premise of it so I want to check them out. It does bother me to think that the whole thing could have been done in less than 10 books but at the same time I don't mind the idea of a series focused on world building.

>>11918671
Just as a warning, this series does not hold your hand when it comes to world building. It drops you right in the middle of the action and you have to pick up stuff as you go. There's no easy exposition explaining every unfamiliar term and the history of things at the outset.

Also the scale of it is massive. I cannot stress this enough, but it takes several books for things to develop. There are so many characters, places, and events that it's not until book 5 that all the major people and settings are introduced.

>>11918432
>Anyway, I thought you should know how I feel. How do you feel about it? Not that I care.

>>11918592
Tbf I enjoyed the entire book. Took me a bit in the beginning to get on Meiville's wild ride but it was vastly entertaining once I did.

Anyone who's read it mind spoonfeeding me reasons to read Tigana? The plot description I'm reading isn't exactly selling me, but I've heard it's good. Trying to find out if it's my kind of good before I buy it.

Just woke up after falling asleep while reading mistborn

why is everyone praising this rubbish so highly

>>11918794
i have the first trilogy in boxed set but never got halfway through the first one lol
the art on the box is cool at least

>>11918794
Why are you trusting randoms from /r/fantasy?

Just finished Guards! Guards! and I'm on Men at Arms now. This shit is so damn funny.

>>11918794
literally nobody here does that unless they're meme'ing and god help you if you took reading suggestions from some mainstream shithole like Reddit or something.

>>11918808
I'm also trusting the reviews and sites that recommend books on the ones I did like.
I heard so many good things about it and Sanderson.

but it's awful. its so fucking bad.

>>11918815
I've never been to /sffg/ before today because I always managed to find books by myself but mistborn is terrible

>>11918807
it's okay. certainly better than the eli monpress covers

>>11918782
I'll get my unpopular opinion out of the way as Tigana seems to be liked around these parts.

Don't read it, it's incredibly cringy, has a little too much out of place sex for the sake of it to the point it felt like fan service, the world building is bad which gimps the premise and makes it so that it never quite delivers on the epic scale you expect it to at the beginning. The idea is there but GGK fails to execute it and cops out with a bittersweet ending right after a massive let down of a climax which felt more like a brawl than a battle to usurp a tyrant.

>>11918822
I enjoyed all the Stormlight books to varying degrees so far but haven't managed to get into any of his other stuff

Opinion on Hellequin chronicles?

Brilliance Audio is/was much better than Audible.

Does anyone have some solid recommendations for spooky / creepy stories? I would strongly prefer audio books because I need some good listening material for this month.

>>11918847
Lovecraft

>>11918847
Bird Box
Dunno if the ab is any good though.

Are the Amber Chronicles a /sffg/ meme?
Are they a good meme?

>>11918815
Wrong. Plenty of Mistborn fans here. The second mistborn series tho...

>>11918515
I read that book for the first time recently and I loved it. Been keeping an eye out at used bookstores for the others in the series.

>>11918857
is one of the most acclaimed sff writers of all time a meme from a 4chan general?

>>11918889
sanderhack is one of the most acclaimed sff writers of all time now with his sales
>is he a meme?
yes

>>11918830
Cringy in what way? Obvious author wish fulfillment erotica cringy, or Name of the Wind cringy?

>>11918889
Well, is it?

Just finished the Sprawl Trilogy, Mona Lisa Overdrive was as exiting as the first two, what did 3Jane really want from Angie?

Why can't people just write good stories instead of trying to get all artsy-fartsy philosophically poetic about it.

>>11918984
I’m curious what book you’re talking about. And the answer the answer to your question is because authors get too big for their head and start thinking they’re deep (see: blindsight)

>>11918984
>artsy-fartsy philosophically poetic
Sword of Truth when Goodking threw the Empire at us?

>>11918915
No. They aren't intellectually challenging but the first 5 books (the Corwin cycle) are entertaining and the underlying premises are fun to consider.
If you try them and like Zelazny's work, give "Lord of Light" a read and you'll see the difference in intended audience immediately.

Reading Renegade by Joel Shepard currently
Thanks to whoever recommended it, it's pretty neat so far
It might have been a mistake to read it so soon after Old Man's War because I'm kinda burned out on military sci-fi but it looks like it might subvert the militarist fascist shit at the beginning

Is Patrick Rothfuss the next Tolkien?

Does anyone know if there are any westernized isekai fantasy novels out there that aren't stat-saturated litRPG?

Really anything that has a modern person getting dropped in fantasy world. I want to see if it is possible to make such a setting without turning it to shit.

What is some "high brow" sci fi or fantasy? Like the kind that gets you to think. Jerry Pournelle is an example of what I have in mind.

>>11919069
kingkiller

>>11919069
Most things by Philip K Dick
Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch and Ubik come to mind

>>11919052
>the first 5 books (the Corwin cycle) are entertaining and the underlying premises are fun to consider.
Are they Fantasy or Science Fantasy?
Science Fantasy is cool and all but right now I'm itching for some pure Fantasy.
Just read about the premise of Lord of Light and it actually sounds pretty neat though.

>>11919080
Yes, I know all about Dick. Love it. I'm more interested in high brow fantasy. Ken Liu is quite good on this score, both for sci fi and fantasy. He's one of few contemporary writers I genuinely admire.

>>11919084

>>11919065
Thomas Covenant, Wizard Knight.

They're both very different from each other, and also nothing like light-novel isekai.

>>11919079
is this a joke?
What does kingkiller get you thinking about?

>>11919081
Fantasy. There's pseudo-logic used to explain how our Earth fits into this cosmos but that's about it. I would say the Highlander stuff is fairly similar in structure. There isn't really any spellslinging. I guess this is what is usually referred to as low fantasy, where high fantasy would be elves and robes and spells and staving off diabetes.

"Lord of Light" is Zelazny writing something with literary value. If you're fresh outta /v/, it might not be your cup of tea just yet. If you're in your twenties, you'd probably enjoy it more.

>>11918911
I normally like GGK's writing but it's purple af in Tigana and he tries too hard to make everything overly poetic, especially the character interactions which leaves you rolling your eyes.

Is there anything like this out there? It doesn't have to be litrpg. I just feel this series is perfect in every way. I've given a lot of litrpgs a try and 99% of them are complete garbage.

I NEED TO SPEND 2 AUDIBLE CREDITS BEFORE THE DAY IS OVER PLS HLP!

>>11919144
do they sell rope?

>>11919144
orconomics if you want something with a similar humor, dark lords handbook if you wanna know what its like to be a bad dark lord.

>>11919160
>if you wanna know what its like to be a bad dark lord
get some insects, ice, drinking classes, alcohol, fire

>>11919160
I guess I have to give orconomics another try cause it bored me pretty quickly, I'll give dark lord's handbook a go. THANKS!

>>11919121
Suicide

>>11918871
But you'll go back to good ol leddit in a week so you and your ilk don't really count.

Why all the hate on KKC?
Sure, Rothfuss is a liberal faggot, terribly cringy and thinks he's god's gift to fantasy, but the books are pretty good (except for the Adem part)

bleh, just finished Rigante. It's just so mind numbingly average in every way. How the hell did it end up winning the monthly reading poll? Did it run against only Sanderson books or something?

>>11919095
Honestly I'm just looking for any displaced-person-in-fantasy setting that isn't drowning in numbers.

>>11919211
Stick to Harry Potter, scrub.

>>11919065
The Fionavar Tapestry trilogy by Guy Gavriel Kay

>>11919220
hey, harry potter was good up to and including #4

I'm reading Senlin Ascends and it blows my mind that people praise this prose. Occasionally it is good, maybe even great, but for the most part it's either generic or clumsy. I almost stopped reading after the first few pages because it read like some teenager wrote it.

>>11919211
No, the other 3 nominations were:
>Frankenstein
>City
>Lord of Light
We seem to be in the midst of a population surge from either offsite or crossboard. I would guess the poll was skewed by our newfriends.

>>11919248
Replace Senlin Ascends with The Final Empire and it's still valid

If you can overlook a bit of sjw nonsense this is one of the best books of the last decade. I saw the ending coming from a mile off and it still managed to blow my mind. I strongly recommend reading it.

>>11919258
I feel like it can be applied to a lot of sff. I've seen people gush over Rothfuss or, God forbid, even GRRM.

>>11919053
I've been shilling the series for a while now and overall the series is more a "adventure series where most of the characters also happen to be in the military" setup than traditional military scifi. Fewer space battles and more stuff like "we need to infiltrate this vault on a high-gravity planet to secure a plot device that'll tell us what the fuck is going on" and stuff about alien politics. (which, IMO, is one of the strong points of the series, the stuff about the Tavalai and Paren is actually interesting)

You might also try Marko Kloos' Frontlines series as a antidote to the usual "militarist fascist shit" as you put it. Main character is a self-described "welfare rat" from the megacity slums and it plays a good part in the development of the character as he gets older and more war weary. Poor Man's War by Elliot Kay was also good at taking a more reasoned look at things, but I haven't read the sequels yet. (surprisingly good and entertaining for a author who's other work is a urban fantasy harem series)

>>11919065
Sword of the Bright Lady is kinda in the same genre: A middle-aged engineer from Arizona falls through a portal to fantasyland and becomes a warrior-priest who has vaguely Dungeons and Dragons style "prepare your skills for the day" powers, he promptly sets about starting to make rifles and explosives and industrial equipment so that random people without any levels can shoot the "ranked" off their mighty steeds. There isn't much "stats" stuff aside from him going "I'm gonna need Enchant Weapon today so I can power up these cannons" or going "the amount of magic XP gems and gold to reach the next level was a tremendous cost, but it would allow me to resurrect my men."

>>11919263
Baru Cormorant did nothing wrong.

>>11919255
Frankenstein would have been perfect for October...baka

>>11919267
>gush over Rothfuss
>>11919209

Is there such a thing as a Taoist science fiction or fantasy novel?

>>11919209
Kvothe is an unlikable mary sue and the romance is really bad

>>11919209
Best thing about the book is that it gives me something to bitch about and let off some steam.

>>11919270
I voted it for it, foolishly as it turned out. I should have thrown in with "Lord of Light" to fend off the NPC pick. That'll teach me to vote with my heart.

>>11919276
I like Kvothe.
Since I don't know anything about romance I can't comment on it

>>11919275
Ursula K. Le Guin was a taoist, take a look at The Lathe of Heaven.

>>11919307
Just bought a copy just after I posted my question. Thanks m8.

>>11918304
>Look around you. The horizon trembling, shapeless. We are all of us brothers.
-DFW

>>11919382
Infinite Jest is shit.

>>11919382
Dead Failed Writer?

>>11919392
That quote is from The Pale King you dumdum, not Infinite Jest.

>>11919382
please keep this garbage out of this general

>>11919421
It's fine my dude, doesn't look like I'm interrupting much.

I've been trying to remember a few books I read for the longest time and I can't seem to remember them and its driving me crazy

Before I start its not WoT
One was a fantasy book where some young guy lives on some ranch with his pa but some shit goes down.
Not sure how he leaves or what happens exactly, but to the west theres a country that keeps women chained? or it might be men, for their magic (its not WoT again)
Theres some war hes in to the east, where some catastrophic event happens and like seige engines destroy an entire city or something.
At the end I remember he was very powerful and found out that I think his magic was tied to some other realm whose beings were coming to destroy his world, and these beings just went around doing this.
So he was badass and he stops the cycle.

Damn sounds a lot like WoT, might be mixing two things togather

>>11919446
sounds like WoT and i dunno maybe the magician by r. feist

>a fantasy book where some young guy lives on some ranch with his pa but some shit goes down.

i hate that this is still a thing

>>11919453
>i hate that this is still a thing

i like it

>>11919453
Star Wars was alright

>>11919446
Haven't read it myself but I've seen it mentioned quite a few times that Terry Goodkind stole a lot of material from WoT for his Sword of Truth series. Maybe that's the one?

>>11919459
>>11919451
Read both of those, not it

>>11919456
Speaking of Star Wars - are any of the books good? I tried The Thrawn trilogy and I thought it read like generic cliched FanFiction.

>>11919453
What's the most recent series that did this?

What's the name of that series of books about Merlin when he was young. Pretty sure he fights a cyclops or something in one

>>11919268
I only said "militarist fascist shit" because the beginning of the book looked like they were going to defend the genocide of that race they were at war with

>>11919446
Is it the one with the demons?

>>11919477
Crimson Queen was decent and it does this.

>>11919484
>genocide is indefensible
getting tired of this meme

>>11919491
Eat my dick larping faggot, I'm not having this discussion with you and shitting up the thread

>>11919485
I dont recall exactly what the enemy on the earth was, I think just other humans

But the people coming from another dimension were some timeless beings that traveled from one world to another drawn by power and consumed it. I guess that sounds like demons

>>11919495
wew whats going on here friends

>>11919495
you mad bro

>>11919504
shut the fuck up, stop stirring shithead.

>>11919508
nobody puff up ok

>>11919495
Hrs not wrong though you petulant child. You can morally defend genocide in sci fi and fantasy. Ended did nothing wrong killing a bunch of ants, you cannot prove me wrong

>>11919524
>>11919495
STOP FIGHTING YOU GUYS IT HURTS ME ;-----;

Just finished Fifth Head of Cerberus (the novella, not the collection).

What's everyone's interpretation of that closing line?

>>11919538
i might have to restrain them

>>11919491
Uh sweaty we're all made of stardust ()

Would any of the kind anons around recommend me a book? Preferably one with an audio version as I have to do a good amount of driving for work but if it's not available then I'm okay with a physical copy too. My favorite authors are Gene Wolfe , R.A Lafferty , Tim Powers, Steven Erikson , Tanith Lee , Roger Zelazny and CS Friedman. I really dislike Patrick Rothfuss , Scott Bakker and anything with overt sjw themes. While I don't think they are terrible writers I feel that Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett are vastly overrated. Thanks in advance.

Why are you buying new books Anon?
You are not even close to finishing all the ones in your backlog.

Just finished pic related. What did I think about it?

>>11919069
Pournelle isn't remotely high brow lol like 70% of his works are just suburban dad power fantasies with some sf dressing

>>11919939
>suburban dad power fantasies
That sounds awesome though.

>>11919939
Is the suburban dad cracking open cans of Monster?

Why haven’t you read Elantris yet? Hrathen is one of the most based and redpilled characters ever made.

>>11919704
Mythago Wood by Robert Holdstock

>>11920042
I'M FINNA

>>11920042
No fuck you and your buzzwords.

>>11919937
Rape?

>>11918304

>>11920060
No thank you.

>>11920094
That's the spirit!

>>11918304
>>11918362
>What is the most important step a man can take?
The next step that gets that safehand of hers into his pants.

>>11918362
Preordering Stormlight 4 of course.

>>11920226
What am I exactly reading here?
I am too scared of what I might find to google it.

>>11920304
An interlude chapter almost completely unrelated to the events of Stormlight Archive 3, where the protagonist of said chapter is a young scholar reading trashy romance novels in her spare time.

>>11918362
sanderson is a hack

Popular critically acclaimed author bad.

>>11920328
giggled

>>11920310
It's literally just there to remind the reader that the Dawnchant exists.

>>11920310
Egads!
Dodged a bullet right there.

Your taxes or your life.

>>11920328

mostly yeah

>>11920451

Opening lines: Best one? Rank 'em, stick 'em in a stew

>dude what if Gandalf died of septic shock lmao
wow dude i love subverting tropes!

>>11918321
Rothfuss>sanderson

>>11920503
Haven't read Sanderson, but I disagree.

>>11920474
4 and 10. Pretty much the only ones that don't give the feeling the reader hasn't just started the story.

>>11920512
I've read both.

>>11919704
Have you read "Hyperion" by Dan Simmons yet?

What are some books?

>>11920451
How long till he dies?

>>11920657
asdfo

>>11920657
jackie chFUCK

>>11920661
Who knows.

Is the sequel trilogy to the history of the runestaff by moorcock any good? I was a bit disappointed with the ending tbqf

>>11919560
We are stardust, we are golden
We are billion year old carbon
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden

>>11920451
No worries, it's only set to "stun".

>>11920661
He's been dead since 2011. Didn't you know???

>>11919539

Spoilers


That someday the community will want the line of clones (the clones are the humans, the community Abos slowly losing humanity without new humans to base themselves off of, thus the desuetude and degeneration in port mimizon, which implies mimicry.) also, the cry of the unwanted to those in his life - that the child and the woman will want his guidance and come to love him, though he is now locked in the same cycle.

stormlight archive is just a very long winded version of the house of blades trilogy lol

Should I read Worm Ouroboros

>>11920070
>31th
hehe

So, book/series to go with this song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shgxrFC9GOU

>Base your fantasy world on Greece & Persia
>main characters have a modern sense of morality
Hate this meme

>>11920994

>set in a culture that depends on slavery
>you can tell who the main characters are based on who objects to slavery

Courtship Rituals handled this best IMO. There's only one character opposed to cannibalism, and she's partially insane.

>>11919539
I just started it, it's my first wolfe no bully

>kindle had the second and third Latro in the Mist books but not the first

>>11921088
guess you'll have to read a good writer instead

>>11921088
But.. I own it on kindle

>>11919263
Cormorant is such an uninspired cringey name for a character.

>>11921100
What country are you from?

>>11921101
Oh she's a cringey and uninspired character herself.

>>11921100
kindle sometimes retroactively removes books. amazon is weird that way. sometimes you get to keep it in your library and sometimes you dont. also regions matter.
kindle in general needs a huge revamp in how it works i think.

>>11921003
>Humanitarians accepted the institution of slavery, realizing that the alternative was massacre; we who have seen the holocaust of the European Jews should be sparing in our reproaches.
Based Gene

I want to read something focused on knights doing chivalrous shit. I don't mind if it's cliche as long as it's good.
Can you help me with that, /sffg/?

A bit of a specific request, but are there any good books themed on the "Kindom" themed Elves, like the Noldor. That is to say, not Forest Elves.

>>11921125
Denmark

>>11921317
>>/x/

>>11921195
kindle works great if you just pirate every book

>>11921405
Everything works great if you pirate it.

>>11919263
>dick in son
heh

>>11921275
kill all knife ears

How are the Hellequin Chronicles?

>>11918847
The Alien audiodramas are a bit spooky. Ive been meaning to look for more full cast audiodramas. Seems like the BBC and Amazon are the only professionals making them though

Give me 1(one) good reason I should poop before I pee

>>11921529
Gay men can't ambush you when you're sitting down.

>>11921569
Where do you think we are?

Thoroughly enjoyed pic related, but thinking about the part where they start talking with Rorschach is bothering me.

I don't buy for one second that just from listening to broadcast media Rorschach would be able to be proficient in English, or any language for that matter. The Chinese Room idea is neat and all but it is predicated on the notion that someone who actually understands the language is creating the algorithm for the person in the box to use to reply to message sent into the box. Rorschach had no such instruction and so couldn't possibly conceive of when and in what context things should be sent. Sure, if you perform a statistical analysis on language then you might find that, for instance, when somebody says "hello", then 80% of the time the reply is also "hello". But that doesn't account for context at all. People can reply with fucking anything. Maybe the hate the person talking to them, maybe they're in a hurry to get tot he point etc. etc. My point is there are near infinite different responses depending on context. How did Rorschach know how to communicate so perfectly?

Moreover how did they figure out that he 'had no idea what he was saying'? Sure you can shove lexical ambiguities into your sentences like Susan did to test him, but so what? Not replying to them isn't an indicator that you don't see they're there. The vast majority of people don't even pick up on lexical ambiguities in everyday conversation, and if they do see them they aren't exactly going to stop the conversation to ask why someone used them. They'll just continue because they can very obviously infer from context what the person meant.

Absolutely loved the book but this seemed a bit weak to me.

>>11921648
you are assuming for some reason that an alien would not be incomprehensibly more intelligent than humanity. and making a chinese room is not so difficult, look at Tay

>>11921730
You can be as incomprehensibly intelligent as you like, but unless you have a reference from which to make your algorithm then you're going to be making blind stabs in the dark. In theory a chinese room is fine, but the person in the room has absolutely no control over where the conversation is heading even if they wanted to. Imagine that the person in the chinese room is locked in and they want to get the person outside to unlock them, they decide that they will us their message to try and make this happen. Unfortunately as they have no idea what they're saying they can't possibly steer the conversation in any direction beyond whatever the person who made the response algorithm has allowed in their list of responses to various inputs.

In the same way Rorschach was very clearly directing the conversation and trying to influence the crew to first of all stay away, then to frighten and threaten them. But how, if it has no idea what it's saying, could it possibly come up with these 'directed' responses that are by definition context based?

>>11921648
Time anon. They had time. They were listening in on humanity's communication for who knows how long. Years passed between the Firefly incident and Theseus actually making contact.

As for the linguist discovering that the ayyliens had no comprehension, it was also due to time spent "conversing". They spent days talking.

>>11921776
>the ayyliens had no comprehension
But they very clearly did because they responded appropriately as anyone would to what the crew were saying, and on top of that Rorschach acted in accordance with what it was saying as well. If someone sends a message into a chinese room and gets a response saying "I'll kill you motherfucker" and nothing happens then you can surmise that it is a genuine chinese room and the person sending the messages out has no clue what they're saying. If you get a message back saying "I'll kill you motherfucker" and then the door opens and the person inside stabs you with a knife then it's clear that they did know what they were saying. Either that or the person telling the person inside what to say has manipulated them into doing so, but in Blindsight there isn't any third party manipulating Rorschach.

>Wolfe decided not to call any of the Greek cities or gods by their names
This is going to get confusing really fast.

>>11919209
Success breeds jealousy. He's the only modern fantasy author that gets praise from people that are actually well read. Also, he just happens to write very specific deconstructionist fantasy which is definitely not going to be most people's cup of tea.

>>11919209
>but the books are pretty good

>>11920474
>using the word paleogenomics instead of paleogenetics because you want to try and sound smart
Every one of your sentences is also terrible, please stop writing, you clearly can’t do it.

>>11921088
You retarded?
https://www.amazon.com/Soldier-Mist-Latro-Gene-Wolfe-ebook/dp/B009E6VSBG/ref=mp_s_a_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539370833&sr=1-1-spell&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=solider+in+the+mist

>>11920474
8 is the best, but like>>11921817 said the paleogenomics line is cringe and it's very clearly trying to be like blindsight when Watts is talking about how they use the 'voodoo of paleogenetics' to resurrect vampires

>>11921836
Are YOU retarded?

That page is still region dependent, use a vpn and check through other regions, you'll see there's no Kindle edition available in some of them.

I just started reading Magician by Raymond Feist. I'm only a few chapters in but I gotta say, it's comfy as fuck.

>>11921795
Yeah whatever program Rosarch came up with responded with a plethora of appropriate responses that included warnings, changing the subject, small talk, etc. over a period of days or weeks. Long enough for the linguist to actually tell Rosarch to fuck off and get a nonsensical answer. In short, it was giving them the run-around while doing it's own thing.

>>11921861
I can't read it because I had the worst fever of my life while watching the show. Fucked me up

>>11921817
Pic related wrote 6 anon. I got all of these from various anthologies

>I want a book with a similar vibe to [non /lit/ thing]

are there any fantasy book with a similar feel to Morrowind?

all those psychedelics the writer was taking really made for a cool setting

>>11921962
>made for a cool setting
Why is it cool, in your opinion?

>>11921962
I've been told City Of Stairs and Perdido Street Station are like that.

>>11918847
Most unsettling/depressing book i've ever read

>>11919483
Look up author T. A. Barron

>look up Poppy War author
>see this

>>11919415
Don't care. Quit memeing DFW he's fucking trash.

>>11919491
>Slaughtering a group of people wholesale is okay you guise!

Edgy cringe.

>>11922184
why?

>>11922257
But it prevents so much trouble down the line.
To paraphrase Joseph Stylin' - "no man, no problem".

who here likes Redwall and WARRIOR CATS
I remember the Rat Scourge guy used his tail as a whip that was pretyt badass

What do you guys think of Throne of Glass?

>>11922280
Patricians, such as myself, only read about bunnies.

>>11922305
It's a great series. The protagonist is really strong too. You will really learn to sympathize with her.

Is great too.

>>11922306
Bunnies are trash.
Read lobsters instead.

>>11922306
Dumb bunny poster.

>>11922305
>>11922337
Is there or is there not a Major Cum Lord in this series?

What the FUCK is a sardonic wink?

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>>11922229
wow someone with an asian name who wrote a book about nanking looks chinese

based marvel

>>11922700
Raaawww INTJ!
*wink by an INTP*

>>11922682
>>11922700
Pls don't post this horrible trash.
Thank you.

>>11922735
Pls go back to /tv and never come back.
Thank you.

>>11922742
not /tv/. This fucker wrote the comics and books

>>11922742
Make me, you powerless, quivering anus

>>11922747
Pls do not engage in unnecessary discussion on your way out.
Thank you.

>>11922755
Pls do not act as a tuff guy on the Internet.
Thank you.

>>11922765
quivering

anus

lol

>>11922268
>it prevents so much trouble down the line
This is basically the lesson of the Book of Judges.

>>11922280
Redwall was great. I wish more authors would cater to the furry tastes that series left me with.

this past summer I bought the Shannara books on one volume at Salvation Army and Stranger in a Strange Land at a yard sale, still getting throygh some it be books but when I do, which one should I read first? also got LotR but I read it before and wasn't thrilled the last time I tried to re-read it, but it also has sentimental attachments, so it's a whole other question to solve

>>11922765
Keep quivering, anus

>>11920698
>I was a bit disappointed with the ending tbqf
Welcome to Moorcock.

What is a dark humored science fiction story that will make me tear up laughing?

>>11922925
rick and morty

Someone give me a story featuring man-femAI love. The more wish fufillment, the better.

>>11922887
Canon-wise start with First King Of Shanara, it's a prequel to Sword. If you want to start with how the Shanara universe is first formed start with The Word And The Void books, those are pretty comfy.

>>11918304
I know it's not any good, but is The Eye of Argon worth reading?

>>11922925
The Eyes of the Overworld.

>>11922933
Fuck off.

Kino.

>>11922949
Don't talk to her like that.

>>11922956
No. I want good dark humor book and I won't leave until I get one.

>>11922925

John Dies at the End

>>11922925
Humor has no place in science fiction. Science fiction is serious business.

>>11922947
I said science fiction not fantasy.

>>11922975
Preferably something untouched by normies and their faggot ass movie machine H.O.L.L.Y.W.O.O.D.

>>11922992

cringe

>>11922953
>TenSoon
>MeLaan
>Harmony
>Wax
is this fucking animorphs

Anything where the mc has an evil waifu?

>>11922953
dwarf fortress generates better character names than this

I feel bad for mournblade

>>11923113
Always the bridesmaid.

>>11923054
kandra are shapeshifting robots
harmony is another character from previous books who's in possession of two contradicting shards of adolnasium
wax is wax

>>11922682
there's no smile at all. actually he looks sad on the left and troubled on the right.

>>11921268
The Story of King Arthur and his Knights - Howard Pyle
Elenium - David Eddings

>>11922306
Patricians are the decedents of the Foxgirls

Hey, hey, it'd be really cool if one of my books got turned into a video games! Will someone turn one of my books into a video game? Please.

>>11922996
Book movies are shit.

>>11923273
stormlight mmo pls

>>11923247
Patricians are the decedents of Camillus, foxfags are the decedents of Brennus.

>>11923273
>Pumps out book after book all while going to conventions, managing a podcast, teaching a writing course, and taking care of Mormon duties

As mediocre as his books are, at least he has a good work ethic and is well disciplined. I wish I was.

>>11923244
Thank you friend, I was worried no one would reply.
I'll look into these.

>>11923273
He looks so dreadfully boring and plain. There's nothing memorable about him at all. I always forget how he looks as soon as I take my eyes off his pictures.

>>11921268

Poul Anderson's Three Hearts and Three Lions

D&D literally based paladins off of this.

Any new Sc/&iFi got some real huge boobies?

>>11923370
D&D based a lot of things off that novel.

>>11923370
Neat, always liked the Paladin archetype, I'll check this one out too.
Thanks!

>>11921268
The Knight, by Mr. Wolfe

>>11921268
Knights of Dark Renown is short and sweet.

What are you writing for NaNoWriMo, /sffg/? :3

What do I read if I want fantasy worldbuilding porn? Read WoT. No patience for GRRM's bullshit. Read Memory Sorrow and Thorn. Started Shannara. Brooks did not click.

>>11923622
i don't like anything recommend me something the post

>>11923302
Doesn't seem so difficult if the only thing you care about is money.

>>11923362
As opposed to all the other devilishly handsome sff writers.

>>11923622
Tolkien but you've already read it

>>11923628

There's a lot more than those out there. It's not even that I don't like the first Ice and Fire book. I'm just not getting into a series he seems to have no intention of finishing.

And man Shannara was really dry by the numbers stuff. I do hear it gets better, but again, I just don't have the patience to get that far right now.

>>11923362
Could pull off his look if I tripled my weight, I think

>>11923622
>Started Shannara
god, why?

Try Crimson Queen.

>>11923636
God what a fucking stud

>>11923641

Yeah, good deductive reasoning there. I think I'm in a small minority that unabashedly loves the Silmarillion. It's not something I suffered through, I really loved it.

>>11923622
Guy Gavriel Kay or Robert Jordan.

>>11923649

After WoT I wanted to try something else that leaned into fantasy with the conceit that there was some sci-fi past. Shannara has that. It was just... boring.

Thanks for a rec.

>>11923636

He looks like a cranky grandpa where you can never tell if he really hates you or not.

>>11923636
Guy is cute

>>11923654
I've read Tigana, it has the worst world building of any not completely shit book I've ever read.

>>11923644
i was just being a dick i'm the one from the /WoT/ thread

>GGK is my favourite author still kicking
>Never read Tigana

>>11923622
>Shannara
The beginning of the end.

>>11923632
If the only thing I care about is money, what do I write?

>>11923657
Book of the New Sun if you haven't read it is almost exactly that.

Thomas Covenent. What's the quality there? Hows Donaldson?

Is that series that was Wagner in space any good?

>>11923706

I've read the first one and a half. I trailed off for frankly no good reason. Life gets distracting. I wasn't loving it. Everything was buried under ten layers of obfuscation. Lying narrator. Ignorant narrator. Insane narrator. Mistaken narrator. Severin is a mess. I was fascinated by them and I'd dearly love to finish the series. All 12 books or however many there are. All the short stories. I made a damned list. Just.... not right now.

why are fantasy authors all fat neck beards?

>>11923702
Not serious fantasy, you'll make less than what you would with a day job unless you become one the top 2-3 authors or your book gets adapted.

If you want money, the YA genre should be your main focus, preferably writing something formulaic you can finish and release every 6 months.

>>11923721
because you don't go on to write about knights saving damsels as a coping mechanism for the shitty hand you've been dealt when you slay pussy every night with minimal effort

>>11923709
I like him, but he can be emo-teen dark at times. MC is a dick but usually a good supporting crew. The space opera was good, but rapey with bio horror (so depending on how you feel about that).

>>11923622
This other guy reminded me, the Covenant series has a great world anon. And for world building the second Chronicles might be even better (Sunbane).

>>11923726
fair call

>>11923734

HAHA, same guy!

Covenant seems to be liked by the right people. And it was an inspiration for Malazan, which I want to be a bit more done before I dive into it. So a good step along the way.

>>11923700
Hey, the word and void books are good..

>>11923721
>the fuck did you say about me?

>>11923772
Is there a better argument for the extermination of the middle class than this man?

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>>11923780
Literally who is this?

>>11923785
Patrick Rothfuss, his inspiration for Kvothe was himself.

>>11923772
he looks like he would punch a nazi but he also looks like the nazi he would be punching

>>11923794

That sums up commies.

>>11923772
Did he decide to call himself China or did his mum do it to him?

>>11922945
what I meant was should I read Shannara or Stranger first
the volume I have doesn't have First King of Shannara, just the other three, Sword, Elfstones, Wishsong

>>11923772
sorry did you just get back from the gay bdsm club?

>>11923803
From the wiki
>They chose his first name, China, from a dictionary, looking for a beautiful name.

>>11923802
>implying
nah that guy mogs other commies pretty hard desu

>>11923812
its like a shitty superhero origin story
>illiterate parents
>takes vengeance on them by becoming a writer

>>11923812
Can't even make this up

lads i'm trying to re-read wot, and read malazan and read blindsight and finish name on the wind and finish lies of loche lamora

how do i do it?

>>11923839
> how do i do it?
Very carefully. Have the first book ready to be picked up in pristine condition, have your bookmarker ready along with a note book to take notes if needed and a pencil to do it with and make sure you sharpen it. Then start by picking up the sharp pencil and stabbing yourself in the fucking eye you tasteless shit eating monkey.

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>>11923867
isn't Tuon supposed to be black?

>>11923871
no

>>11923839
>re-read wot
If you're lonely enough to want to do this I'm sure you have a chance with the rest.

>>11923883
t-thanks

>>11923877
Not sure if she's black but she's definitely described as having dark skin.

>>11923871

Yes. Some /tv/ poster is forcing this as a meme. Probably in preparation for fake rage when a black actress is cast.

Although I wonder if they'll cast a black actress of an empire built around owning slaves or if they'll find a boneheaded way to chicken out of that.

WE ARE REBORN MY BRETHREN

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