/lit/ - Literature

>>11902472
if you aren't gonna throw molotov cocktails at a police station why even pretend calling yourself an egoist is somehow edgy

>>11902472
Isn’t the “union of egoists” a spook in itself?

>>11902472
Which kind? Stirner egoist, Rand egoist, or some other kind?

>>11902480
Molotov cocktails are just a spook

>tfw no egoist pussy

>>11902472
>Who else here has an ego?
Why not just say you have no friends

>>11902472
>No mom, you spooked slut, I'm not a piece of shit, I'm an EGOIST!!!!
Ok, sweetie.

Why was Marx so anally devastated by egoism again?

It seems perfectly compatible with historical materialism and Engels himself seemed quite infatuated with Stirner.

>>11902734
Rand was an "egoist" who thought there were universal moral truths that everyone had an obligation to live by, i.e., she wasn't a fucking egoist at all.

>>11902617
no, are you retarded?

>>11902472
we need egoist generals from time to time desu

>>11902472
>who here /egoist/?
no one, the more eccentric posters are the ones who struggle with making the jump- they want it yet push it away at the same time

>>11902472
Plenty of egoTISTS, but that's hardly surprising because these are atomistic, egotistical times.

>>11903172
Wrong.
A. Rand is better than sliced bread
B. The observation by her is simply you can do whatever you want in life (barring the initiation of force) but if you want to do it well you're going to have to understand the opperants of reality and fully integrate their principles and higher still meta-principles. Not evade them, and if you're going to evade you're going to flail ineffectually through life. That's it.
Rand is the egoist. She makes an embarrassment of Nietzsche's and Stirner's and by no small margin.

>>11903445
>haha no she doesnt believe in many universal truths
>but but she thinks you are confined to objective limitations that definitely arent truths

>>11902472
Protagoras did nothing wrong

>>11903454
Such as?

>>11903538
Let's take it straight from the post.

>barring the initiation of force
>have to understand the opperants of reality and fully integrate their principles
>if you're going to evade you're going to flail ineffectually through life.

Hmm

>>11903594
I have no idea what you're on about. What do you want me do, be psychic? Speak.

>>11903161
He was jelly that Stirner was getting attention from his husbando

i'm at the part where he talks about the search for the godhead in ego and its own, does it get weirder?

>>11903855
she applies those as universal truths to all people. Are you dense

>>11904114
>Those
What specifically does she apply to all people? The only "universal truths" she posits apply to all men are, at base, the 3 axioms. Pretty much everything else in her philosophy is meta assessment of (pay attention now) *contextual truths.
Rand's great historic distinction is that she was the first to discover to what degree the contextuality of concepts matter.
>the discovery of the intrinsic/subjective/objective trichotomy
>the formulation of psycho-epistemology
>the identification of several new logical fallacies
>Rand's Razor
>the, not solving, but invalidating of Hume's Is/Ought problem
All philosophically earth shattering.

>>11904198
ill come back to you, give me a second to read her Wikipedia page

>>11902472
Stirner's critique of ideology: woke
Stirner's solution being extreme selfishness: broke

>>11904246
>Stirner's solution being extreme selfishness
admit you haven't read him

>>11904304
I've read The Ego and Its Own and the Unique and Its Property (the translation everyone says is superior). Stop making him seem more complex than he is and read him instead.

>>11904316
Did you really?

>>11904324
Your reading comprehension skills could use some work

>>11904333
To elaborate: selfishness does not mean being an asshole (necessarily). All it means is putting oneself above everything else, which is what The Ego and Its Own is all about. If I happen to enjoy the company of another and therefore keep them around, that's not me being altruistic. I enjoy their company and so I keep them around out of self-interest.

Read the book.

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>>11904396
desu i never did i was just arguing the language used and the universal truths are the 3 axioms

>>11904406
K

>>11904333
>>11904335
I don’t disagree with what you said, it seems like we differ in our usage and understanding of the words selfishness and altruism.

>>11904415
thanks for realizing defeat

>>11904425
Easy on the 5th grade-tier responses skipper