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11892609 No.11892609 [Reply] [Original]

He deserved the Nobel more than Bob Dylan. Prove me wrong.

>> No.11892678

Woody Allen married his own kid. Remember that? He married her. Just married the damn kid. Took care of the kid a while and thought, "Well, guess I'll marry her now." And everyone was just like "Alrighty." Kept makin movies.

>> No.11892679

>Makes ten thousand flicks about a neurotic jew starring himself

Wow, such a master filmmaker.

>> No.11892683

>>11892678
It was his gf's adopted kid, not his. He literally cucked his gf.

>> No.11892692

>>11892679
He stopped acting at like what? the 00s? All the following films starred other people.

>> No.11892713

>>11892683
So he married his stepdaughter, that's totally less creepy.

>> No.11892722

>>11892713
They weren't married, so no, it wasn't his stepdaughter.

>> No.11892734

>>11892722
Sure sure, they were just together for 12 years, the fact that they weren't married absolutely makes it okay.

>> No.11892750

>>11892734
Go back to Indiewire’s comments section ffs.

>> No.11892753

>>11892734
who cares faggot marriage is consensual. they can both do whatever they want

>> No.11892760

>>11892734
I never said it was or wasn't "okay". But facts are facts.

>> No.11892764

>>11892678
He married his girlfriend's (whom he didn't live with) adopted daughter. He didn't marry his own daughter.

>> No.11892785

Bringing it All Back Home
Highway 61 Revisited
Blonde on Blonde
Blood on the Tracks

There, you're wrong.

>> No.11892815

nonce

>> No.11892869

>>11892609
Both have the same jewish claim to it, yes.

>> No.11892900

Honestly, Dylan was the worst possible choice. Hell, I would have rather seen it go to someone like Nas, and I;m not even a fan of hip hop lyricism.

>> No.11892908

>>11892785
>lyrics
>literature

At least screenplays are basically plays and plays ARE literature.

>> No.11892928

Whats his best films?

I loved midnight in paris

>> No.11892940

>>11892928
I enjoyed Match Point, Blue Jasmine, and Irrational Man. I really like his dialogue, it's effortless and comfy.

>> No.11893390
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>>11892908
THAT'S your argument?

>> No.11893401

>>11892900
There's zero chance you've ever listened to a Dylan album.

>> No.11893402

>>11893390
Yeah, I'm still waiting for yours.

>> No.11893407

>>11893402
You are unable to read lyrics somehow? Your eyes only work if the author calls it a poem?

>> No.11893417

>>11892609
Both are Jews you idiot.
They don't deserve anything but gas chambers.
How about you go back to plebbit, bub and and celebrate the shabbot there today.
Go back to reading your Talmud and I'll stick with the Western Classics, which do not encompass a single one of you sad people.

>> No.11893428

>>11893417
Kafka is part of the Western canon, cry more, Nazifag.

>> No.11893437

>>11893417
> he thinks jews are not part of the western canon

End yourself my good /pol/ friend

>> No.11893510

>>11893407
> Your eyes only work if the author calls it a poem?
>implying

>> No.11893528

>>11893401
My parents are very fond of him. I've heard everything he released in the 60s and early 70s many, many times.

>> No.11893564

>>11892928
Annie Hall makes me cry, same with Crimes and Misdemeanors.

>> No.11893610

>>11892609
Dylan definitely deserved the Oscar just for Jimmy Hendricks’s guitar solo on “There Must Be Some Kinda Way Out of Here” alone.

>> No.11893615

>>11893610
No. Maybe a Grammy or whatever the fuck they give to pop musicians nowadays.

>> No.11893648

>>11892678
He also molested his other kid.

>> No.11893655

>>11893510
you got btfo kid

>> No.11893661

>>11892609
Woody Allen is an artist.

If he didn’t have a faggot self insert protagonist in literally every movie, then I would more easily be able to stand him. He just needs a protagonist who isn’t insufferable like him. His movies are comfy except I always want to put him in a chokehold

>> No.11893826

>>11893661
>self insert

The 'protagonists' played by Woody are all completely different characters with different nuances to their personality. Alvy Singer from Annie Hall is different from Sandy Bates from Stardust Memories who is different from Mickey from Hannah & Her Sisters who is different from Isaac Davis from Manhattan etc...

In all of them, Woody has always been playing a character, and not himself. Dostoyevsky is not Raskolnikov after all. Furthermore, all characters serve different functions depending on the film. In Crimes and Misdemeanors or Hannah and Her Sisters, the Woody character compliments the dramatic side of their respective films through humorous subversion. In Annie Hall and Manhattan, the Woody character is largely the engineer of his own romance problems, but the TRUE Woody - the artist behind the whole film - subtly lances their flaws through other methods like cinematography and contrasting scenes against one another.

But if you want examples of films without Woody playing any character: Another Woman, Purple Rose of Cairo, Sweet and Lowdown, Match Point, Cassandra's Dream, Radio Days (though he's the narrator), Interiors, September.

>> No.11894203

>>11893826
I forgot about Purple Rose of Cairo which I love. You are somewhat right but he basically always plays a neurotic, sel-effacing, pseudo-intellectual Jew who love sex. It’s just sometimes he is a movie director and sometimes he’s a writer.

>> No.11894217

>>11892928
the purple rose of cairo

>> No.11894221

>>11893648
that kid is a delusional cunt who was brainwashed by her mother

>> No.11894230

>>11892609
That's not either of the Coen brothers...

>> No.11894232

>>11894221
Because the accused says so?

>> No.11894246

>>11892928
How could you love such tepid trash

>> No.11894277

>>11893417
Cringe but redpilled

>> No.11894278

>>11892609
Here a wild idea, Nobel prizes for liturature should go to writers

>> No.11894286

>>11894278
But Woody Allen is a writer.

>> No.11894293

>>11894286
So is Bob Dylan

>> No.11894297

>>11894232
the two other kids who lived with her said so.

>> No.11894378

>>11894293
Yeah but one writes short stories, screenplays, plays, and essays while the other one writes pop songs.

>> No.11894444

>>11894297
How would they know? Why are you so quick to say Mia Farrow brainwashed them and not that Woody Allen did?

>> No.11894452

>>11894444
Mia is just butthurt for the fact Allen swapped her for a younger woman lmao

>> No.11894459

>>11894452
You mean her literal adopted daughter?

>> No.11894460

>>11894459
Yep, that was a huge blow to her ego.

>> No.11894561

>>11894203
Sandy Bates is one of the most unneurotic characters to exist in cinema though. In Stardust Memories it is other people, fans and producers, who demand his time and attention because he's the one who has the most stability and self-knowledge among them. The other queries he has towards life are your average sort rather than the self delusional kind of Alvy or Isaac. The worst thing he has is romantic issues.

>> No.11894584

>>11893648
No he didn't, the mother was a vindictive cunt and there's so many fucking holes in the story. Even her siblings say it's bullshit.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/24/woody-allens-son-defends-accuses-mother-mia-farrow-abuse/

>> No.11894600

>>11894444
How would Woody brainwash kids he barely saw?

>> No.11894861

>>11892678
Underage b& it was a huge deal

>> No.11894877

>>11892678
Really the only bad thing you can say about it is that there was a big age gap. She wasn't his child, she wasn't related to Mia Farrow and she only really knew Woody as a young, but adult girl

>> No.11894879

>>11892928
>I loved midnight in Paris
Please tell why would you love such piece of masturbatory condescending YA movie? It was fucking superficial, it seemed more like a Green book, a fan fiction of what Allen used to be, and is not like he was ever a genius.

>> No.11894899

>>11894378
>Bob Dylan
>pop songs

>> No.11894910

>>11893417
At least he can name the Jew.

>> No.11894911

>>11894899
He's right

>> No.11894917
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>>11894899
Yeah, about that...

>> No.11894927

>>11894879
Not him, but I don't know, it's a very comfy movie. But I can understand why faggots wouldn't like it.

>> No.11894930

>>11892908
poetry is a thing you know

>> No.11894939

Are you faggots still STILL talking about Bob Dylan winning the nobel? Jesus fuck

>> No.11894940

>>11894930
If Bob Dylan hadn't been a musician, he couldn't have sold his lyrics at a charity auction. You know poetry is "a thing," but do you know poetry at all?

>> No.11894975

>>11894939
They didn't award a nobel this year because of some rape incident. This is the next best thing to arguing over the current year's nobel.

>> No.11895782

no woody doesn't deserve it, he deserves the oscars and such. but his work is too materialistic, it is that whole jewish it's all about who you are fucking, or cheating with. to really capture the human condition or go very deep. you have a way better argument for ingmar bergman.

>> No.11895867

>>11894939
t. "Bob" Dylanstein

>> No.11895878

>>11894879
its a comfy film. It makes you feel warm.

>> No.11895902

>>11892928
Manhattan is Annie Hall+, Crimes and Misdemeanors also good.

>> No.11895922

I find Woody Allen insufferable 2bh