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Thoughts on the philosophical writings of George Bataille's secret society?

>> No.11885685
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Or Bataille's other writings

>> No.11885774

bump

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Bought a fac simile edition a couple of months ago. Haven't read it yet, save for a Klossowski text. Also got a collection of Bataille's texts from the documents magazine.
Klossowski was pretty good and nice.

>> No.11886422

>>11885685
I've only read literature and evil and found it engrossing.

However, he always seems somehow derivative; will give those Achephale writings a go.

Doesn't seem like an actual secret society; more like a mysticoid aesthetic going on with it's publishing.

>> No.11886432

>>11885682
Why this nigga aint got no head

>> No.11887004

>>11886432
lost he head to Kpital n shit

>> No.11887020

>>11886432
it's in his ballsack

look closer

>> No.11887029

>>11886432
>Its name is derived from the Greek ἀkέφαλος (akephalos, literally "headless").
>Members of the Acéphale society were required to adopt several rituals, such as refusing to shake hand with anti-semites and celebrating the decapitation of Louis XVI, an event which prefigured the "chiefless crowd" targeted by "acéphalité". Members of the society were also invited to meditation, on texts of Nietzsche, Freud, Sade and Mauss read during the assemblies. There was discussion amongst members about the possibility of carrying out a human sacrifice, but these discussions were never put into action.

>> No.11887032

>>11887020
DAAAMMM

>> No.11887052

>>11886305
Where'd you get the Acephales? Awesome.

>> No.11887064

>>11887032
did u see the magic nipples

>> No.11887226

>>11885685
>>11885682
Shitty edgy teen stuff that looks cool but is worth nothing philosophically speaking
see L'athéologie mystique de Georges Bataille (R. Verneaux)

>> No.11887704

>>11887052
From a small brazilian publisher called Cultura e Barbárie based in Florianópolis. Now that I think of it, facsimile might not be the correct word, but I'm not sure what would it be called. The Documents anthology is also by them, I think they are also organizing a volume with all the texts of Carl Einstein published on the magazine. Pretty cool stuff.

>> No.11887806

>>11887226
What didn't you like about the Nietzsche edition? He isn't wrong about the Nazi's appropriating him

>> No.11888065

>>11887806
The nazis were far less nietzschean than what people think they were.
There were not advocating to be super-men (i.e. people that are over human nature), just superior men (human nature at its peak performance). There's a nuance here that is forgotten.

>> No.11888107

>>11888065
The problem is people were interpreting Nietzsche to be compatible with fascism. Bataille was one of the first to break away from that.

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>>11887704
>it's translated to Portuguese

NO

NO!!!!

>> No.11888123

>>11888107
>people were interpreting Nietzsche to be compatible with fascism
who

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>>11888112
Why the wojak? My french is just good enough to read some shitty newspaper, not a philosophy magazine from the 30s.

>> No.11888311

>>11888303
Because I wanted them in the original French

>> No.11888373

>>11888123
Did you even read it?

>> No.11888408

>>11888373
you're on /lit/ dude

>> No.11889771

>>11885682
whats the meaning behind that logo?

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>>11889771
>The cover was illustrated by André Masson with a drawing openly inspired by Leonardo da Vinci's famous drawing of Vitruvian Man, who embodies classical reason. Masson's figure, however, is headless, his groin covered by a skull, and holds in his right hand a burning heart, while in his left he wields a dagger. Under the title Acéphale are printed the words Religion. Sociologie. Philosophie followed on the next line by the expression the sacred conspiracy (la conjuration sacrée).

kinda surprised that some goofball hasn't already started selling acephale action figures for hipsters

>> No.11889792

>>11889771
It's headless Capital
"Capital is a headless lurch into the abyss, an acephalic catastrophe."

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>>11888123

>> No.11889882

>>11889771
"Human life is defeated because it serves as the head and reason of the universe. Insofar as it becomes that head and reason it accepts slavery. If it isn’t free, existence becomes empty or neuter, and if it is free, it is a game. The earth, as long as it only engendered cataclysms, trees, and birds was a free universe; the fascination with liberty became dulled when the earth produced a being who demanded necessity as a law over the universe. Man nevertheless remained free to no longer respond to any necessity. He is free to resemble all that is not he in the universe. He can cast aside the idea that it is he or God who prevents everything else from being absurd.

Man escaped from his head like the condemned man from his prison.

He found beyond him not God, who is the prohibition of crime, but a being who doesn’t know prohibition. Beyond what I am, I meet a being who makes me laugh because he is headless, who fills me with anguish because he is made of innocence and crime. He holds a weapon of steel in his left hand, flames like a sacred heart in his right hand. He unites in one eruption birth and death. He is not a man. But he isn’t a god, either. He is not I, but he is more I than I: his belly is the labyrinth in which he himself goes astray, led me astray, and in which I find myself being he, that is, a monster.

What I think and represent I didn’t think or represent alone. I am writing in a small cold house in a fishing village; a dog has just barked in the night. My room is next to the kitchen of Andre Masson, who is moving happily about and singing. At the very moment I am writing he has put on the phonograph a recording of the overture of “Don Giovanni.” More than anything else, the overture of “Don Giovanni” ties what is given me of existence to a challenge that opens up a ravishment outside of the self. At this very instant I look upon that headless being, made up of two equally strong obsessions, become “Don Giovanni’s Tomb.” When a few days ago I was in this kitchen with Masson, sitting with a glass of wine in my hand while he, suddenly imagining his own death and that of his kin, his eyes fixed, suffering, almost crying out that death had to become an affectionate and passionate death, crying out his hatred for a world that made weigh even on death its worker’s hand, already I could no longer question that the lot and the infinite tumult of human life are open not to those who exist like poked out eyes, but to those who are like clairvoyants, carried away by an upsetting dream that could not belong to them."

>> No.11889923

>>11889882
>Man escaped from his head like the condemned man from his prison.
i intended to post this too. nice

>> No.11890065

So did he actually ever sacrifice/kill/rape anybody? Seems to me like he was just a LARPing faggot.

>> No.11890069

>>11890065
see
>>11887029

>> No.11890120

>>11890069
>>11887029
>such as refusing to shake hand with anti-semites
>There was discussion amongst members about the possibility of carrying out a human sacrifice, but these discussions were never put into action.
This is so fucking gay, I can't believe anyone takes him seriously

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Any one read Nick Lands book on Bataille? I think he is one of the inspirations for his accelerationism.

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Satanic Hegelianism

>> No.11892103

>>11889790
>>11889792
>>11889882
thanks