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>selfish ruling class
Is Tucker the reincarnation of Huey Long?

>>11882460
>selfish ruling class
>Tucker is a millionaire

>>11882539
>Millionaires can't challenge the ruling class

>>11882539
Carlson is an Optimate, not a Brahmin. His father created anti-communist propaganda during the Cold War and was a US Ambassador. High+Low vs Middle.

Ted's is better

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-ship-of-fools

>>11883837
>elite telling other elites to be better elites

>>11882539
imagine thinking your average millionaire has any real political influence

>>11883875
>implying any society has ever or could ever exist without some form of elites
>implying the optimates weren't infinitely better leaders than the brahmins
>implying an alliance of old money WASPs and white-picket fence fly over retards isn't the only thing that could feasibly stop the axis of technofeminist bureaucrats and Third World opportunists

>>11883981
based.

>>11883981
>tfw WW3 will be old money WASPs and blue collar retards facing off against office drone millenials and imported shitskins
Can't wait tbqh

>>11884022
Sounds pretty neat

thank god i'm not american

>>11883866
Checked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ-Upb4Szms&t=3s

>>11882498
Possibly. Patterns of resonance tend to be most convenient for higher dimensional form to reassign carnations for.

>>11883981
>implying nobelse oblige still exist
>implying Carlson wouldn’t be like those cancerous retards he is criticizing
>implying Opitmates didn’t sink the Republic
He is no Gracchi.

>>11883888
Real enough to have shills on a Pakistan interpretive dance imageboard

>>11882460
>no donald trump, the symbol of "selfish ruling class"

>>11882460
Is this bait?

Tucker Carlson > Zizek

>>11884358
desu.... LMAO

>>11884252

>>11882539
He has limited influence compared to Koch, Slim, and Soros. The conflict isn't between right and left but rather institutes of power; government and corporations. Soros rallied against communism in Hungary. Hungary was nationalist to the extent that had closed borders to international business, other than that the government was expansive nationalized bureaucracy that would screw the people to get its way. Koch was against communism for the same reason. He was co founder of the John Birch society though he ironically did business with in the Soviet Union.

Carlson is in the right step by arguing not only against big government but big corporations but he needs to let go of the left-right, conservative-liberal false dichotomy. It's a huge step from the times when Republicans literally shilled for the Iraq War and big box chains like Walmart. Bring back the nation and you've brought back the community with small businesses and local, rather than global, recognition. A healthier alternative to the globalized, cheap labor world that both corporations and big bureaucracy wants.

>>11884447
I'm not the other guy, but it appears you sympathize with Donald Trump. Why?

>>11884477
>vote for oligarch who openly hates you and wants to flood your country with niggers
>vote for oligarch who pays lip service to the ideas of reviving your country's economy and stemming white genocide
wow really surprising poor white people voted for trump really astonishing, why do they keep voting against their own interests?

>its on libgen already

BASTE

I did my hundred pages of reading today. If I had done this for the last decade, I would by now be a veritable man of culture. I read Murakami (I know, but c'mon, he's not bad) and Balzac. So today I'm not feeling like a pleb, and feel like I'm in a position to say, Fuck off with this youtuber pundit pleb shit.

>>11884500
That anon asked for sympathy not for reasons to vote retard

>>11884500
Some people have political beliefs that don't revolve entirely around their racial tribalism, anon

>>11884477
America is turning brown and I don't like it.

>>11884549
Can you read your way out of typing like a fucking schizo?

>>11884581
Rich republicans make shitloads of money off of cheap imported labor. They'll talk about ending illegal immigration, but have you ever noticed they've never really done a fucking thing about it?

>>11884580
>a question using the wrong word to describe the meaning of a shitty looking apu with a sword and a hat needs to be answered in the exact frame that the person who misunderstands the meme puts it in
eat shit faggot
>>11884580
>vote for oligarch who openly hates you
>vote for oligarch who pays lip service to the ideas of reviving your country's economy
still too complicated for you, retard?

>>11884457
Except, he's not going to do that. For every good Tucker segment in which he calls out the Establishment, there's 9 other Sargon-tier "culture war" segments. He is just not serious enough.

>>11884500
Where is the wall that was promised?

>>11884592
The era of neoconservatism is over. White identity politics is on the rise. Trumpian populism will overtake conservacuckery.

>>11884500
>vote for oligarch who openly hates you
>he thinks the left is only democrats and clinton
Good goy. Don't forget to watch Dave Rubin and the Daily Wire!
MAGA!!! USA!!!! MAGA!!!
The founders were right. Retards like you should have no say in politics.

>>11884616
Good, one step closer to replacing elections with nation-wide games of Fortnite between potential candidates.

>>11884616
Imagine being this deluded. Not only did Trump give tax cuts to the rich and corporations (who aren't white, by the way, Schlomo), but he's done nothing at all for poor whites in any way. Every single decision he's made has lost them more jobs and more social benefits. The democrats in the blue state fought hard for their constituents, at least. Literally the people that got fucked hardest by Trump were the poor whites from red states whose governors couldn't give less of a fuck about their constituents.
You people are way too young to understand that there is no such thing as right-wing in America. You are lulled in by white identity politics and fail to see it's all corporatism run by the Jews. There is no such thing as hope for whites until we dismantle corporatism, which is why the only thing that makes sense is to vote with progressives in order to get white people in the poorest regions back on their feet.
It's truly sad to see how many white Americans fall for blatantly Zionist propaganda. Fucking obese poorfags that have no jobs, no health insurance, and no prospects, defending Trump and billionaire corporatists. Incredible.

>>11884615
it's irrelevant. here's the thing: no one believes him, but american politics couldnt possibly have offered anything better. not complicated at all.
>>11884617
ask dumb questions get dumb answers desu. i don't like trump, but anyone still wondering why people like him/voted for him is an absolute monkey.

>>11884635
Go to bed Bernie.

>>11884616
Thing is, the people pushing for a white ethnostate are retarded enough that the actual policies enacted don't really matter.
Go to /pol/ and see how they didn't just pick him as the lesser of two evils, they continue to love him. They think he's an eloquent genius two steps ahead of everyone that's been playing politics for their entire lives. They fell so hard for the con that they continue to say everybody who didn't fall for it is an idiot.
He doesn't need to help anybody, least of all the white lower classes, because as long as he makes liberals mad by not caring about their language minefield games they will suck his cock for free.
>>11884637
The correct answer is to stop politician hero worship in all forms. Not liking Hillary doesn't mean you have to go full magapede, and calling the people who do so retards is entirely accurate.

>>11884637
>ask dumb questions get dumb answers desu. i don't like trump, but anyone still wondering why people like him/voted for him is an absolute monkey.
Not really. The guy asked you why you sympathize with Trump. It's one thing to vote for him as a vote against the Democrats. It's another to vote for him because you genuinely sympathize with him and think he's being for real (he's not).
Dumb anime poster.

>>11884644
Literally every single statement that anon made was accurate, and you can't refute them.

>>11884646
>undoing the cult of celebrity in america
?????

>>11884646
Anon speaks the truth. It turns out that all those people that said they voted with Trump only because they hated Hillary are actual dumb MAGA posters that cheer at anything Trump does. Even assuming that you voted for him earnestly at the start given his anti-war rhetoric or whatever - it's pretty clear that he was full of shit.
At the same time, I'm not surprised. People literally get their news and information from right-wing shills on YouTube that will follow up a conversation about a bombing in some country with greater indignancy of how some random character in a video game was changed. They clearly do not care about anything of worth, because they have no worth and neither do their lives. They literally live in a hugbox of conforming opinions.

>>11882539
>he's literate
Obviously a part of the ruling class.

No.
Its polemical shite for brainlets.
I read books aimed at adults

>>11884647
false dichotomy
>be white guy
>hate jews and muds
>candidate dogwhistles about jewish power and says he wants to keep muds out of your country
>vote for him even though it's america and there's a 99% chance he's lying, because every other possible choice is between people who openly hate you
i'm strawmanning my own views to spoonfeed you /leftypol/ers and you are still having trouble with this. you're hopeless.

Foucault was right

>>11884700
Souvarine was right
The Souvarine from Germinal that said every part of civilization should be burned to the ground

>book opens with a Plato reference

Always a sure sign of kino

>>11884699
>that pic
Nazis were plebs

>>11884699
>because every other possible choice is between people who openly hate you
Except that's not true. There are plenty of whites that are fighting for other whites against dumb conservatives. Many of whom also voted for Trump out of spite. Like Richard Ojeda. The idea that you can "only" for Zionist Republicans is just an excuse you make in your fantasy world to continue with your apelike behavior and do nothing significant politically.
>candidate dogwhistles about jewish power
And then supports them. Oh, boy, what a hero. At least Bernie got Amazon to back the fuck down. Granted, even Tucker called them out. Can you name a single thing Trump has done to benefit poor whites? Apart from getting them their "jobs back" which then caused even more unemployment as others lost their old jobs as a result of that?
>i'm strawmanning my own views
No, you're just talking sincerely, and realizing people are calling you out for being a dumb weeb magapede that knows nothing about real policies or how American government/politics function.
>views to spoonfeed you
Nigger, you can't even defend yourself, let alone try to spoonfed arguments to another.
>/leftypol/ers
Just who do you think you're talking to? Are you legitimately this stupid?

Tucker is entertaining but his method is disgusting

>>11884647
>It's another to vote for him because you genuinely sympathize with him and think he's being for real (he's not).
unlike our girl Hillary who is 100% truthful and sincere at all times and is in no way the cat's paw of banks and large corporations. it's not as if people have been calling her out for being a congenital liar since the 1990s or anything like that

>>11884635
>You are lulled in by white identity politics and fail to see it's all corporatism run by the Jews.
The whole point of white identity politics is to oust the corporatist Jews, those in media especially. And zog. Once a critical mass realize it's us versus them then we'll have revolution.

>which is why the only thing that makes sense is to vote with progressives in order to get white people in the poorest regions back on their feet.
I agree. Bernie's campaign finance reform platform for 2020 is the most important thing this decade. More democracy = less whoish control

>It's truly sad to see how many white Americans fall for blatantly Zionist propaganda
The Zionists are terrified of Trump. Just look at Kristol's erratic rhetoric of the last 3 years.

>>11884646
>as long as he makes liberals mad by not caring about their language minefield games they will suck his cock for free.
It's not free, he's giving them white identity.

>>11884744
>unlike our girl Hillary who is 100% truthful and sincere at all times and is in no way the cat's paw of banks and large corporations. it's not as if people have been calling her out for being a congenital liar since the 1990s or anything like that
How is it possible that all pro-Trump people are too stupid to read critically and instead follow-up with non sequitur? Can you show me where I said anyone should've voted for Hillary? You people are such inbred retards, it's unbelievable.
>>11884752
>The whole point of white identity politics is to oust the corporatist Jews, those in media especially. And zog. Once a critical mass realize it's us versus them then we'll have revolution.
And yet white identity politics is mostly done by Jews :)
>The Zionists are terrified of Trump.
Wrong. The Zionists got people to vote for Trump precisely BECAUSE he's a Zionist. Why do you think so many (((secular Jews))) suddenly turned into magapedes? Why is Roseanne right-wing now and in favor of Trump, when she used to vote as a socialist? Why is Rubin now supported by the Koch brothers and hosting a huge show when he's a fucking tool that has no thoughts of his own, and was also more or less a socialist before this?
Let me give you a tip: ISRAEL. Because the progressives and white nationalists are both against the Zionists. It's not just a random fucking accident that people who were claiming to be socialist overnight turned into MAGA MAGA USA!!! Trumpians.
Just look at how they're slandering Jeremy Corbyn in Britain. Guy does one campaign saying that banks are bad for ruining the lives of ordinary people, and they're painting him as a Nazi that's calling out for Jewish genocide.

>>11884725
>Except that's not true. There are plenty of whites that are fighting for other whites against dumb conservatives. Many of whom also voted for Trump out of spite. Like Richard Ojeda. The idea that you can "only" for Zionist Republicans is just an excuse you make in your fantasy world to continue with your apelike behavior and do nothing significant politically.
i'm sure you do a ton of politically significant work. you're a delusional self-important clown show.
>And then supports them. Oh, boy, what a hero. At least Bernie got Amazon to back the fuck down. Granted, even Tucker called them out. Can you name a single thing Trump has done to benefit poor whites? Apart from getting them their "jobs back" which then caused even more unemployment as others lost their old jobs as a result of that?
don't even disagree.
>No, you're just talking sincerely, and realizing people are calling you out for being a dumb weeb magapede that knows nothing about real policies or how American government/politics function.
nice smuggies, but you're still posting on an anime board, nigger.

>>11884725
>There are plenty of whites that are fighting for other whites against dumb conservatives
But that's not true either. There are some decent people on the left, but most of them have bought into this idea that we need to be diversified and culturally enriched. Even though actual experience tells us that mass immigration only leads to grubby slums and conflict.

>>11884781
>Can you show me where I said anyone should've voted for Hillary? You people are such inbred retards, it's unbelievable.
wow that's some very ableist hate speech mister! far be it from me to question such an eminent personage such as yourself, but weren't there were only two real candidates in the last election? the third parties didn't have a ghost of a chance. so, if you didn't vote for trump you were, to all intents and purposes, voting for crooked hillary

>>11884798
I'm as far left as they come and if you want my opinion, that sentiment has been raised intentionally by the wealthy to redirect the energy of the left. They can't have leftists demanding their heads, but what they can do is take that anger and revolutionary fervor and say "That's because of racist sexist transphobic old white men!" and suddenly the economic platform falls flat while identity politics keeps their attention. The dogshit system we live in causes outrage, but they can't get rid of that outrage, so they change the conversation entirely.

>>11884797
>i'm sure you do a ton of politically significant work. you're a delusional self-important clown show.
I literally do, lol. But keep projecting, dumb weeb. I'm sure you'll change the world and help white people by doing NOTHING except defending a literal retard and finding excuses for your inactivity.
>don't even disagree.
And yet you started this whole thing by saying you're sympathetic to Trump and saying there are no other options. How much of an idiot are you? Do you seriously need help to follow your own posts?
>nice smuggies
Nothing I said was wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about, and everything you say comes down to rhetoric as easy to blow away as dust. You have nothing concrete to say nor anything sincere to share. You're a joke, and all the people like you are a joke. And I have no doubt you're some lowlife incel loser that probably isn't even white, regardless of your ebin pro-Trump posting, though no doubt you'll deny it.
>>11884798
.But that's not true either. There are some decent people on the left, but most of them have bought into this idea that we need to be diversified and culturally enriched.
That is simply false. You clearly don't follow anyone on the left at all. Almost all of the progressives are against open borders and immigration, and they're vociferously condemning identity politics on the Left.
The only people that are diversity and cultural enrichment are opportunist Democrats, and let's face it, they're dying out like schizophrenic retards. The Kavanaugh thing isn't even over yet, and Warren already announced she's running for 2020 and doing some YAS QUEEN SLAAAAAY tier shit. Democrats are pathetic.

>>11884826
Yeah I think I agree. I've heard it said that "the right won on economics, the left won on social issues" which was pretty much the worst outcome in my opinion.

>>11884833
explaining in the clearest possible language my rationale for choosing trump over hillary means i'm a fully committed based black guy magapede. got it.
what kind of work do you do?

>>11884781
>And yet white identity politics is mostly done by Jews :)
Based Jews like Luke Ford.

>Let me give you a tip: ISRAEL.
Supporting Israel is a good thing. It's the final answer to the JQ.

>[white nationalists] are against the Zionists
False. Even little dickie spencer supports the Zionist project because it's a model for white Americans. They are setting precedent and establishing the most effective methods of ethnic cleansing. Getting the Mexicans out of Iowa and Nebraska will be easy by comparison.

>>11884867
Stop strawmanning.

>>11884872
Not him but stop using the fallacy fallacy!

>>11884871
Do you realize how unworkable that is though? Israel doesn't exist without committed American support. They are never going to stop influencing American politics or let go of their power. Nor are all Jews welcome in Israel despite proganda. Israel is simply the embodiment of a Zionist group of European Jews. It's not ethnical in any real sense that we should look up to.

>>11884872
i mean, you're throwing out some pretty insane accusations. your talking points seem well-rehearsed and i don't necessarily blame you for attacking someone for seeming pro-trump.
we'd probably get along fine, though you seem pretty uptight. and you didn't answer my question about what kind of political work you do.

>>11884886
>Israel doesn't exist without committed American support.
lmao what are you talking about? This might have been true before 2000 but the US has since destroyed all of their enemies.

>Nor are all Jews welcome in Israel despite proganda
Who gives a fuck. They'll have no choice after the 2032 pogroms.

>>11884912
Well rehearsed? I'm not even a public speaker or writer. And I help in the campaign of a person running in my state.

>>11884917
>Destroyed their enemies in the region
Ahahaha, what the fuck. You can't be serious. Everyone hates them. Even fucking non-Ashkenazim Israelis hate them. You're incredibly uninformed.

>>11884936
>Everyone hates them.
False. Saudis suck Jewish cock. Turks suck Jewish cock. Egypt bent the knee decades ago. Iraq is rubble, Syria is rubble, Libya is rubble, Yemen is rubble. Iran is the only contender and they aren't in any position to do shit. Either you don't know what you're talking about or you're devious kike trying to downplay Jewish power. Israel is secured and will become a nation of Orthodox living alongside rampant homosexuality in a megalopolis of endless skyscrapers and high powered technology. Once the diaspora are forced back in their cage then the world will be perfect as the Lord intends.

>>11884990
Israel is sentient

>>11885002
The jew is the entity of Antichrist, sharing multiple bodies.

>>11884833
>Warren already announced she's running for 2020 and doing some YAS QUEEN SLAAAAAY tier shit. Democrats are pathetic.
Nah she is just saying she might. And knowing her it will probably be a no eventually

>>11884201
>nobelse oblige
Just leave

>>11882460
Yeah, I'm gonna read a book by a neocon propagandist...

If you read some of the articles he wrote before he became a co-host on Crossfire, you'll find that Tucker Carlson is a genuinely good writer. I always thought he was wasted on TV, since he's actually one of the few writers with a conservative angle I actually find somewhat interesting to read.

Hopefully, this new book actually intends to explore some ideas in a reasonable degree of depth and isn't simply the same shallow examination of issues these sorts of books normally are intended to placate his new Fox News viewers.

>>11885053
Whatever you say, Chris.

>>11885061
He's 100% correct, though

>>11885038
I would prefer not to

>>11885069
If you say so, Chris

>>11884201
>Gracchi
Why are they such a meme?

>>11884718
Or an attempt to look intelligent

>>11884718
Or because he actually is intelligent.

>>11882460
> Tucker Carlson
> the guy who looks like he's just smelt a badly wiped asshole 24/7
> any literary merit

haha no thanks i'd rather read literature thank you

>>11882460
He's right the revolution is coming. He's wrong about who's going to get the bullet.

>>11884826
>The dogshit system we live in causes outrage
How outrageous to live in America and being one of the most privileged people who have ever lived. It's so shitty to be filthy rich when there are even richer people out there.
You have no clue how good you have it, fucking moron.
t. third worlder

>>11882539
>selfish rull8ng class
>... that advocate for on a major news network

>>11884718
Disgusting. I've read most of Plato but I'll leave this quote here from the Republic.

>Nor have they listened sufficiently to fine and free arguments that search out the truth in every way for the sake of knowledge but that keep away from the sophistications and eristic quibbles that, both in public trials and in private gatherings, aim at nothing except reputation and disputation.

>>11884580
Then why did every nog in the land vote for Obongo?

more like "How a Dimwitted Pundit Tried to Capitalize on Meme-Fueled Internet Cultural Trends to Promote a Book Designed to Further Disinform the Electorate During the Midterms, Further Alienating and Disenchanting the Youth with the Corrupt Democratic Processes and the Legitimacy of Major Media Outlets and Publishing Houses."

>>11884580
Keyword "some"

>>11885851
Thanks, I was gonna try and capture what you've just captured but couldn't be fucked to do so.

>>11884819
not him, but you can just kind of not vote in the US, thus not supporting hillary or trump

I voted for Trump because I hate blacks and I thought Trump hated them too but apparently they are doing better under him than under Obama. I feel like I fucked up. At least Trump is making things harder for Mexicans so it's a half victory.

>>11885734
He's pink and you're xenophobic, plenty of people all over the world live at the same standard that most Americans do, yes there are criminals taking heads in South America, doesn't stop each and every one of them from owning an iPhone and posting a video on instagram every time they do it. Privilege is a good word for the state in which a lot of people live in, luxury, people nowadays say that cars are a necessity, that's how corrupted people have become, food, water, shelter, clothing, those are necessities, this isn't about telling everyone to live in a log cabin, simply a reminder that in the scope of the world at large the American standard of living is just about average. Sub-Saharan Africa is about the only region on Earth still struggling with widespread destitution, most of the world has managed to catch on, just get over yourself for a second, I don't own a car, or a smartphone or an HDTV, I don't have cable television, I don't have health insurance, I'm connected to the internet by a generous neighbor's granting me access to their WiFi and using a $150 laptop I got at Goodwill, some of us out there are still broke and hearing on the radio that girls don't want no scrubs, society at large is kicking me when I'm down, that's America for you, that's American virtue, forging iron wills of individualistic determination, pushing and shoving and spitting on you til you fight back, not for a cause, for yourself.

>>11884646
Those "people" are the literally retarded immigrants that came after /pol/ lost control over its colony on reddit. (Imagine i just posted the image where boomers on reddit talk about going on 4chan)

I spend most of my time on /sg/ and there at least there is a genuine hatred of the man for being an Israel controlled scumfuck.
Most of the people from pre2015 aren't as gay as you describe.

>>11885896
>some of us out there are still broke
Go try being broke to a non first world country and see if the quality of life you have in America still seems so average after all.

>>11885936
Ch-CHECK UR PRIVILEGE

>>11885936
you first, asshole, probably still live with your mother, shove your condescension up your ass, "First-Worlder," fucking racist is what you are.

>>11884104
Yes this makes sense

>>11883875
>>elite telling other elites to be better elites

Literally what is the problem with this.

>>11886005
But I do live in the third world. And why do you call me racist? I'm not white.

>>11885083
Epic meme, I'm going to post this on reddit :-D

>>11885918
I've never been on /sg/ and I do believe they're mostly retarded immigrants, but the retarded immigrants have effectively seized control of your board. They're also the ones that decided they needed to proselytize on every other board on 4chan, so they interact with everybody else constantly and piss them all off.
The boomers are no joke. The drop in quality content is wild, /pol/ used to at least be funny about their shit.

>>11884457
Governments and corporations form a symbiotic entity, you don't actually believe profit exists before taxation today do you? The talk of "nation" and "community" as some sort of alternative to capital is just romanticism without actually flushing out the details which lead back to the issue of production and reproduction.

This debated already played out in the late 19th century. The competitive economy characterized by small businesses was filled with corrupt patronage and unwritten customs, the corporate alternative was more meritocratic and formal, i.e. rational, and was embraced by a broad mass of both workers and capitalists for this exact reason. If you look at the business press of the time corporate executives and investment bankers themselves ended up having no faith in Says law by the 1890s... prices and returns on investment could no longer be safely determined on the demand side so it had to be moved to the supply side by means of governmental corporate regulation, this was their alternative to fend off socialistic theories. Imperialism and corporate restructuring was an acceptable answer to the empirical decline in the rate of profit. You can't talk about business without talking about profit.

What you want is a society of individual fully liable proprietors, shopowners and farmers, which is as antiquated as manorialism. The reality of wealth today is diversified marketable securities. Wealth is liquid and socialized. Carlson is just a stupid and confused ideologue, he isn't actually advocating abolishing the entire structure of the economy just a slightly different form of statism.

This is seriously what poses for the literature board these days? I’m done with /lit/, it’s just embarrassing.

>>11886480
It's sad but it's time to jump ship. Anyone have recommendations for more serious literature and philosophy communities?

>>11886492
/r/badphilosophy and /r/badliterature are great.

>>11886480
we need a /litmk2/ for discussion of literature.

this board is terminal

>>11886507
I second this. Badlit is a too slow though but dadphil is just great. One of the few places left where you can openly shit on reactionaries and MUH WESTERN SHRIVILIZATION without having to deal with /pol/tards and petersonfags sperging. They're not welcome there.

>>11885918
ALLAH SYRIA BASHAR

>>11886522
>dadphil
Lol. I meant badphil. Badphil is totally daddy though.

>>11886507
>>11886522
This. Infinite lit is good too.
>>11886532
We should start a sub called dadphilosophy. There's a lot of potential there.

>>11882460
I'm sure it's trash, but his thesis is correct desu.

>>11883837
MoldBased and Carlylepilled

>>11885801
>keep away from the sophistications and eristic quibbles that, both in public trials and in private gatherings, aim at nothing except reputation and disputation.
>The Sworn Enemy of Lying, Pomposity, Smugness, and Group-Think

>>11885851
>Legitimacy of Major Media Outlets
kys

>>11884604
Sargon is extremely influential.

>>11886280
>What you want is a society of individual fully liable proprietors, shopowners and farmers

It's the ideal form of society in my view, but seems it will only arrive with a major economic crash.

It's what libertarians want, but you do need a limited government to prevent corporatocracy.

>The talk of "nation" and "community" as some sort of alternative to capital is just romanticism without actually flushing out the details which lead back to the issue of production and reproduction.

I was arguing for small scaled capitalism constrained back to the community. Mom and pop stores and local computer shops for example. Are you entailing this is long gone?

>>11886928
To talk of an "ideal form" is to totally sidestep the actuality of history. I'm not against abstraction but you need to provide an explanation for the actual transformation of "small scaled capitalism" into large corporate enterprise which actually occurred... libertarians generally resort to conspiratorial theories e.g. to cite Rothbard:
>Commercial bankers, engaged as they are in unsound fractional reserve credit, are, in the free market, always teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. Hence they are always reaching for government aid and bailout. Investment bankers do much of their business underwriting government bonds, in the United States and abroad. Therefore, they have a vested interest in promoting deficits and in forcing taxpayers to redeem government debt. Both sets of bankers, then, tend to be tied in with government policy, and try to influence and control government actions in domestic and foreign affairs.
...
>By the turn of the century the political economy of the United States was dominated by two generally clashing financial aggregations: the previously dominant Morgan group, which had begun in investment banking and expanded into commercial banking, railroads, and mergers of manufacturing firms; and the Rockefeller forces, which began in oil refining and then moved into commercial banking, finally forming an alliance with the Kuhn, Loeb Company in investment banking and the Harriman interests in railroads. ... Indeed, much of the political history of the United States from the late nineteenth century until World War II may be interpreted by the closeness of each administration to one of these sometimes cooperating, more often conflicting, financial groupings: Cleveland (Morgan), McKinley (Rockefeller), Theodore Roosevelt (Morgan), Taft (Rockefeller), Wilson (Morgan), Harding (Rockefeller), Coolidge (Morgan), Hoover (Morgan), and Franklin Roosevelt (Harriman–Kuhn, Loeb–Rockefeller).
Reading Rothbard you just get the idea of a mere conspiracy of bankers restructuring the economy for their ends, which didn't need to occur, but Rothbard doesn't seriously engage and rejects all the concerns of the business community of the day all the while maintaining Says law is in fact totally 100% true. There's no reason to believe that modern industry can be organized on the basis of individual proprietorship, since the 2nd industrial revolution it has never been so. No government can fight "corporatocracy", it's an issue of productivity, the issue of imperialism guarantees it.

>>11882460
Yassss, slay Tucker slay!!!

Bump

My personally autographed copy got here a while ago guys.

Test. Wtf why are mods censoring this.

>>11883981
Hmmmm, not so sure about that. One of Moldbug's main points was that in a mass-suffrage democracy, the Optimate-Vaisya alliance can delay the victory of the Brahmin-Dalit-Helot coalition, but is ultimately doomed. Imo the only praxis for the Right is some sort of hard reset that bins democracy, or Patchwork.

>>11889050
/Leftypol/ mods confirmed

>>11889070
Hey this thread is being personally suppressed down to page 10. If I was someone here I'd honestly make the exact same thread again since it seems some lefty jannie got their panties in a bunch.