/lit/ - Literature

>>11880810
actually... I think it should.

>>11880810
most literary characters don't have associated images to use in a chart like this

Gregory Berrycone
100, 0

>>11881279
solid

/lit/ can't do this because no one on /lit reads. Ever notice how no one talks about the plot or characters in the books discussed? It's only ever about their quality or 'merit'.

>>11880810
>deserve

>>11881279
beautifully memed

>>11881279
kek

>>11881279
nice

>>11881306
I dont think I should make a thread for this but do you think I should read stirner after nietzche, and if not where should I go?

Dostoevsky
0, 100

>>11881486
Nobody actually reads Stirner, just call any things you don't like spooks and you get the same experience

>>11881488
The opposite

>>11881486
start with the greeks, kant, schope and then stirner. Nietzche, although good is easily misunderstood and although tempting, should probably be read later, like how it's sort of impossible to understand Gatsby until you're at least over 21 because of the world experience you need to give weight to him.

>>11881531
Okay, I appreciate it

The /his/ one, if anyone is interested.

Kafka
5, 80

>>11881569
Pretty fucking gay

>>11881569
lmao at putting Diogenes as the 0 suffering, the dude was sold into slavery several times, he was just good at suffering, same with Epictetus

/his/ are plebs

also Joseph McCarthy unironically did nothing wrong, why on earth is he so high on the "deserving" side, listed in the same group as Saddam and Kim Jong Un

>>11881569
> Martin Luther as bad as Marx and Robespierre, almost as bad as Hitler
Salty Catholics lmao

just so we're clear, the form is (x, y)

Job: (0, 100)

the ceiling sufferer; experiences convey the lack of meaning in catastrophes

Solzhenitsyn: (10, 95)

pretty fucked up about that guy

Olaudah Equiano: (5, 80)

also regrettable

me: (100, 15)

i am a walking infection

>>11881569
>huey long not in the very top-left
baka desu senpai
also how the fuck did anne frank and camus have the same amount of suffering

>>11880810
>Patroclus: 0,50
>Achilles: 50, 50
>Hector: 0, 100
>Paris and Helen: 100, 0
>Ulysses: 80, 20

>>11881569
We should do this, but make it good instead of this trash
Also what's the very top-right?

>>11881921
Carthage, the Phoenician state that warred with Rome. Their practices of child sacrifice and their utter destruction at the hands of Rome probably landed them there.

>>11881901
>Ulysses
kys, Roman

>>11881279
Wonderful

>>11881569
>Deng near fucking Ghandi
>Tito deserving >50 suffering
>Gaddafi deserving more than Hussein
Christ

>>11881300
>plot
>characters
I think /tv/ might be more your speed plen

Only /lit/ is autistic enough to see this thread and come up with the placements for authors instead of literary characters.

Fuck you all.

>>11881842
It's the opposite job is 100 0
>>11881300
Plot or characters are the most plebian discussion you can have about a book.

>>11881569
>anne frank deserved no suffering
Wow /his/ must be reddit

>>11881970
one of the very first posts stated that sadly, most characters don't have well known, universal drawings

also the image posted by /his/torian guy has some authors on it, so it's kinda natural that we spotted them and became curious

>>11881753
the question posed is not one such as "was their life good?" it was "how much did they suffer?"

whilst it is true that Diogenes life was unsavory, to say the least, but he did not suffer.

Diogenes is the epitome of 'not giving a shit' and in case you didn't know, suffering and 'not giving a shit' are like water and oil

they do not mix

>>11881569
>john green far right
Kek

>>11881977
>/mu/ anneposting
>/pol/eddit
hmmm i wonder which of these is older

>>11881569
Who is the 0.100 guy?

>>11882002
He's brainwashing young people, especially girls, with far-left propaganda via YouTube and Twitter. I'd say 95 is reasonable.

>>11882006
Pol Pot

>>11881569
Why would Dickens possibly deserve to suffer?

>>11882009
That’s true, I just thought it was a joke until you pointed that out to me

>>11881955
That guy is too pleb even for /tv/

>>11882026
Cheated on his wife

>>11882009
Holy fucking shit how /pol/ do you have to be to call John Green “””far left”””

>>11880810
Moby Dick
(100, 5)

>>11882031
He was literally an admitted communist in his early life and his history videos are very obviously heavily stilted against whites and white enterprise

>>11882031
I haven't ever been to /pol/, and he's not "far left", but some of the stuff in his videos certainly is. It's basically re-writing history through modern leftist lens, pure rhetoric, thinly veiled dialectics. Have you watched all his vids during the five minutes since you read my post?

Milton's Satan: (100, 100)

worth noting that (0, 100) is not achievable by mortals, whereas (100, 100) is

The Judge
(100, 0)

The Kid
(50, 100)

Suttree
(70, 30)

Billy Parham
(20, 80)

John Grady Cole
(40, 60)

Llewelyn Moss
(65, 45)

Marion Sylder
(40, 40)

Lester Ballard
(65, 45)

Culla Holme
(30, 60)

.....

Flem Snopes
(80, 15)

Thomas Sutpen
(65, 70)

Quentin Compson
(10, 55)

Jason Compson
(70, 15)

>>11881901
why Helen?

Wasn't she just an NPC trophy?

Runeberg's Judas
(5, 100)

Fetus aborted before 24 weeks
(0,0)

Fetus aborted after 24 weeks
(0,100)

or (100,100) if you believe it has inherent sin?

>>11881569
Kierkegaard deserved 35 suffering and had 0 suffering? /his/ confirmed retards.

>>11882440
Kierkegaard should be right under Jesus

>>11880810
how are you even suppose to read that dumb ass graph? If I put X on 60 suffering should I rate him like if the person deserved to get 60 suffering or should I rate the person as if they deserved that 60 suffering? Example Artist X gets 10 at suffering but he deserved that because he did some bad stuff in his lifetime... so a 100?

Keep this pleb shit outta here, plox.

>>11882466
I'm pretty drunk, disregard idiocy.

>>11882373
I don't know if I'd put The Kid at 100 deservedness. He did awful stuff, of course, but he wasn't pure evil, he would be at a solid 75

Meursault
0,100

>>11882484
100 suffering, not 100 deservedness

>>11882499
oh, that makes a good deal more sense

>>11881569
How does Jesus not deserve suffering? He literally created all suffering in the universe.

>>11882541
ahahaha

>>11882045
Where would Ahab fit?

>>11881306
Severe cringe and autism.

>>11880810
DFW
0,0

>>11881279
i love you

>>11881279
x comes first, faggot

>>11883754
It works both ways

>>11881279
This is it, Chief

>>11883805
no it fucking doesn't

>>11882253
i don't think humans are capable of ultimate evil

>>11881569
holy shit this is so right-wing

is /his/ just like /pol/?

>>11883813
No you moron I mean Gregory Berrycone could be 100 suffering and 0 deserved or the opposite.

>>11883820
Fuck off leftshit. Its too Left Wing if anything
>durr Hitler is a bad guy

>>11881569
michelangelo should be right next to jesus.

wilde should be 100 on the x axis

>>11883843
>michelangelo should be right next to jesus.

You mean the guy that got his nose flattened in bar fights and fucked little boys

>>11883706
(60, 60)

>>11883820
/his/ is slowly being consumed by low effort /pol/ threads, usually written in broken English.

>>11883867
fake news

>>11880810
me desu
9000, 10

>>11883932
Ha, so close. If you had added one more, it would've been pretty epic. You'd be OVER 9000!!!! XDDD

>>11883941
lol!

>>11883843
What did Wilde do?

Also where would /lit/ rank the other writers that appear on /his/ chart >>11881569

>>11884007
he was a homosex

Humbert Humbert (90, 10)

Louis-Ferdinand Céline,

Suffering:70
Deserving:100

Jude Fawley 100, 0

>>11883867
anon, you must be thinking of Caravaggio.

>>11884023
so were your two dads LOL

>>11881279
zozzle

>>11880810
Ok. Here's what I came up with. Hopefully it's a decent starting point.
Someone else will have to fill in the rest of the spaces.

>>11886289
>/sffg/
Cringe

>>11886289
it does seem like a decent starting point.

>Top Left: DFW
>Bottom Right: Heidegger
Not autistic enough to come up with anything else

>>11886301
>Heidegger

Oh look another lefty fag

>>11886289
10, 10 should be Pynchon, that boy is just having a good time

>>11886289
Candide at 95,0

>>11881569
>Alexander at 85 for deserved it
ahahaha stay mad

>>11882009
Retard alert

>>11883836
Or you could fuck off. /lit/ has always been a communist board.

>>11887386
Retard alert

>>11887386
hello soiboi

updated version

>>11883907
the fate of all boards unfortunately.

>>11887435
Can we put Rupi Kaur at 100:5

>>11882046
>stilted

Marx, Suffering 70, how much he deserved it 100

>Nabokov, 20 suffering

His dad was assassinated and his brother was killed in the Holocaust

>>11887507
how did he suffer in any way, and how did he deserve it?
He's nowhere beyond 15 x 15, reasonably.

>>11887539
see >>11881985
Nabokov was a smug, ruthless fucker. He gave so little fuck about that, 20 is max he could've felt.

>>11887563
A lot of his works included themes of death. Didn't you read that heartfelt passage in Pnin about the Holocaust that was clearly about his brother? And Pale Fire was about his dad.

Ted from I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream, suffering 100, deserved it 30

>>11881569
Manson didn't deserve his suffering. Gay ass chart

(0,90)

>>11887805
You mean (90, 100)

She almost suffered enough. And she suffered a lot

>>11881569
What a shitshow

>>11887435
Ah yes, DFW's bourgeois angst is clearly close to the most suffering a being can experience

>>11887823
>bourgeois angst
the guy literally spent 20 years fighting clinical depression, you edgelord.

>>11887833
>comes from a rich family
>depression

"no"

>>11887805
You always hurt the one you love
The one you shouldn't hurt at all
You always take the sweetest rose
And crush it till the petals fall

>>11887805
she restarted her channel. I'd say the suffering was closer to 60 desu.

>>11887833
So have a whole lot of people. Pretty common level of suffering.

Updated

>>11887852
at least 80 desu

https://www.patreon.com/katielovesclassicbooks

>>11881279
>>11887910
someone should make an image of a guy with doorknob attached to his head and put it on the chart.

>>11886289
Dostoevsky
60, 90

>>11887945
You fucking idiot.
YOu fuc king moron
GREGORY BERRYCONE IS NOT THE MAN WITH THE KNOB ON HIS HEAD, HE'S A SIDE CHARACTER

GRRM (95,20)
JKRowling (70,10)
Osamu Dazai (30,90)
Soseki Natsume (40,20)
Tolkien (5,5)
Socrates (10,70)
EA Poe (30,65)
Shakespeare (75, 10)
Dan Brown (60,5)
Steven king (90,5)
>>11884007
Wrote one good book and then never wrote anything else worth reading.

>>11888062
Well shit, you are right. This is what lack of sleep does to man.

>>11887833
>clinical depression
so, bourgeois angst?

>>11888074
you really pulled a gregory berrycone there

>>11887833
>20 years fighting clinical depression
So has half of 4chan. What's your point?

>>11887910
ayo, where is my bro stefan zweig?
Zweig(20,65)

>>11888098
>half of 4chan
60% of 4chan is people under the age of 25, who either aren't depressed, haven't been diagnosed, or haven't been taking medication to treat the illness. Depression has become a buzzword in modern internet discourse and /lit/ should feel ashamed to throw it around everywhere. Frogposting because you have no gf isn't clinical depression. Being upset that free market exists because you don't have a minimum wage in your country isn't clinical depression. Getting addicted to opiates for no reason then spending too much money on munchies isn't clinical depression.

There are some genuinely depressed people on 4chan but their depression won't last 20 years and end in suicide, it's most often associated with the fact that they can't socialize, find a job, and achieve anything in life currently. It's closer to a phase than to biological illness.

>>11888064
Stephen King almost got killed by a van so I think his suffering should be pretty higher

>>11888169
I've almost been killed by plenty of vehicles. (90,15) if you please. Shame the van missed, would have spared the industry a lot of cancer.

>>11882002
https://youtu.be/JgDwaJ0WCVE

>>11881569
based saloth

>>11888111
This, also Joseph Roth who drank himself to death three years before Zweig khs.

>>11888203
No he got hit by the van and was hospitalized for like a month and seriously almost died. I'm not saying he didn't have it coming but it still was some pretty serious physical trauma

>>11881306
based and spookpilled

>>11882444

>>11881279

>>11888696
see >>11888111 >>11888329
they should be next to each other

>>11880810
me
100,100

>>11886301
>DFW
Is this a joke?
DFW didn't suffer at all. He belongs in the bottom left.
He lived an easy sheltered life with two loaded professors as parents and never had to worry about rent or eating once.

>>11888696
delete trump pls its not funny

>>11888800
we are on /lit/. Trump wrote like 10 books.

>>11884007
Andre Gide wrote explicitly about him and Oscar Wilde having sex with young Arab boys. Wilde was the instigator and Gide followed his lead. He was a paedophile, they both were.

>>11888687
debased and cuckpilled

state your reasoning alongside submissions you nitwits

>>11883843
>wilde
>100 on the x axis
Shouldn't it be the opposite? He lived an easy life (a zero), and he did not deserve it at all so 0, 0?

>>11881569
The "How much they deserved it" doesn't make any sense in relation to the lower levels of suffering.

/pol/pot/ Suffered a 5, yet deserved this low amount the most?

This graph only makes sense for the higher quandrants with this sort of logic.
The bad people should be on the bottom left. They didn't deserve the easy life.


How stupid is everyone here?

>>11889291
The "how much they deserved it" number probably equates to the intensity of suffering they deserved, rather than how much they deserved the suffering they did receive.

>>11888804
Then move deserving up to 40

>>11889291
you're a dumbass, everyone but you instantly got that it means what >>11889327 said

>>11883706
I’d put him at (75, 80)

Ishmael is (15, 70)

Queequeg is (0, 70)

Moby Dick is (50, 50)

>>11883836
>too left wing
>lenin = himmler in terms of suffering deserved
>marx deserved 85 suffering
what

>>11887910
>marx far right
cringe

>>11889864
LOW AMOUNT OF SUFFERING WITH
"HOW MUCH THEY DESERVED IT".

If this was against Marx, the deserving would be at 0.

>>11887910
Missed >>11883843 >>11888817.

Wilde deserved to suffer as bad as possible.

>>11887435
Yeah, because a whale that defends himself against people trying to kill him totally fucking deserve to suffer. Idiocy.

>>11887435
DFW didn't suffer. He lived an easy fucking life.

>>11888696
Who is the chick at 100,0?

>>11889892
Depression dude. Suffering comes from within.

>>11889898
Rumi Kaur

>>11889902
He didn't have real depression.

He never had to worry about getting his shit box in working order to get to college.

He had a full meal plan at university, never had to worry about food.
He never had to eat shitty bland meals and make his own food all the time. He had a nice warm dinner every single night at a nice table growing up.
Never had to worry about rent. Never had to worry about hunger. Never grew so despondent about any of these things he just gave up. Never had to postpone college because he couldn't cough up the shekels.

He didn't have real depression. He had psychogenic depression originating from the bourgeois attitudes of mommy and daddy who thinks temporal saddness needs a trip to the psychiatrist. The diagnosis further affirmed the parents attitudes that something had to be wrong with the boy.
I dealt with patients like him. Prescribe them an SSRI and voilà, they're miraculously better before they even have a chance to achieve the concentration and time required for a therapeutic effect. The chemical imbalance theory is obsolete. Actual cases of depression is triggered by stress or trauma. Most fake cases of depression are actually munchausen syndrome.

>>11889940
i agree, anon

but you are asking for trouble here

>>11889940
>The chemical imbalance theory is obsolete. Actual cases of depression is triggered by stress or trauma. Most fake cases of depression are actually munchausen syndrome.

I've never been able to look too much into this but from what I can gather this is basically true. Is there any further reading you might have?

>>11889909
She's annoying but that doesn't put her in that spot if we're going to be serious about this.

Judge Holden would make a lot more sense in that spot.

>>11888696
>rupi kaur at 100, 0
correct

>>11890156
Any decent modern textbook on psychiatry or pharmacology emphatically rejects the "serotonin deficiency" hypothesis. It has yet to be replaced with anything simple but impaired neurogenesis and glutamte signalling abnormalities are two things frequently mentioned. Find textbooks written 2015+. Stahl's psychopharmacology comes to mind.

The more controversial aspect of the post was going beyond underlying pathologies and extending it to a trigger or stressor and also adult cases of depression ascribed to munchausen's. You won't find anything on that because the reaction to even casually mentioning it in the discussion section would be career suicide. Patient blaming, unequal access, et cetera. Especially in this era where people hashtag their ailments and politicize them and suddenly play the role of an expert.

>>11888696
This starts to look like meme idiocy. Move Marx to tbe bottom left, move DFW down. Also replace Rupi with Judge Holden and put her at 80

>>11888696
Made by benyamiene Shapiro.
Shabot Shalom Ben. Shouldn't be on 4chan on the Sabbath. The rabbi will hear about this one.

Rank Thomas Hardy protagonists by suffering /lit/.

>>11890261
It's shocking but also exciting how little we actually understand about mental health - we seem to be in the dark ages.
I just wonder what our ancestors will think of our practices.

>>11887910
Dick suffered a lot more than that.

>>11889940
If this "temporal sadness" is enough to drive a man to suicide then it is as much of a problem as "real" depression you ass sniffer

>>11887630
>Pale Fire was about his dad

I see the point of that novel was totally missed by you

>>11883820
/his/ is even more of a leftist shithole than /lit/

>>11888267
>A feminist retelling of Kafka's metamorphosis
Yep. He deserves it

>>11890387
Shapiro gets shat on a ton in debates, ridiculed for his height, memed, and flamed on twitter. 20 suffering is kinda low for him desu, what are you on about?

>>11890366
Marx and DFW had been put on this chart 2 versions ago

stoner
suffering like 8
deserved it 1 because of the adultery WHICH the wife was ok with

>>11888696
putting anyone at 40~ suffering 90~ deserved it as a highly esoteric abstraction--to say they totally deserved a little bit of punishment

sounds a bit kooky

>>11890602
If that's suffering, then you have no idea what suffering really is.

>>11890622
We can't truly know what little Benny is feeling on the inside, but for sure he's not too happy. He's at 20, not even 40. Something is telling me you've been through way less yet you'd love to rank yourself at 50.

>>11887435
this is a really good chart so far
wheres pinecone

>>11887435
>Lucifer deserved it
>a commie insect didn't
0/10

>>11890670
He should be near zero. None of that stuff even remotely approaches suffering. Suffering is real pain and tumult. Not self inflected. Real suffering is redepentive and makes people kinder and have humility.

>>11890711
but politics won't let you display personal humility. do you believe that his public mode of being is exactly same as his private one?

>>11888273
ok that's pretty much the funniest picture i have ever seen in my life no reddit desu

>>11890715
Yes.

>>11887910

Put Jesus with his crown of thorns somewhere.

>>11888004
Why does Dostoevsky deserve a 90?

>>11888004
>Dostoevsky deserves 90
Get-a-load-of-this-cretin cam

>>11888696
you really ruin the whole chart by putting NPC that low

>>11881974
>It's the opposite job is 100 0
Are you retarded?

How much suffering does Henry James deserve?

>>11890765
>low

>>11890765
NPCs don't suffer at all, brainlets. They think they do but they don't.

>>11888696
punting the roach in 0 100 and not Ka

>>11890814
like, 15?

>>11891209
previous one seemed better

>>11891209
>Harry Potter

>>11890757
>didn't pass basic mathematics
Not my fault you are retarded.

>>11882029
as every man should

>>11891209
>removing /pol/ because it had a high "deserved" score
spotted the /pol/tard

here, try this.

>>11882373
Edmond Dantes

100 suferring, 0 deservedness

>>11892122
Ted K at 60 suffered, 10 deserved
having trump at 50 and 0 is cringe

>>11892152
there is no 0 on the scale anon. the lowest is 5.

>>11892154
yeah ur right I'm retard
also I just realized Ted is already on there fuck

>>11892122
Stendhal somewhere in top left
Maybe 90,15

>>11892122
Virginia Woolf is 100 suffering - untreatable mental illness followed by suicide
An argument could be made that she deserves it because woman but otherwise she doesn't

Move her to 100,40

>>11892152
I only added Ernst. It's counterintuitive and impolite to remove other's placements.

>>11892229
Another argument could be made that a woman can't suffer more than 50 :^)

>>11892211
>>11892229
The idea is that anyone can download and add to the image, then the next person can do the same until it is finished. I'm not op and I only filled one square. If you don't like placements you should have been here earlier.

>>11892262
gotcha I thought it was one guy doing all of it

remember keep it in .png boys, or else the quality will deteriorate after couple reuploads

Redid my addition as png

idk tbf

>>11892446
reading the filename, at first I expected /pol/ edition, and I was greatly relieved.

Where should Hitler be?

>>11892512
he only wrote one book, so the question is, should he be on the /lit/ one at all?

>>11892446
new additions

>>11892593
who is 85, 25?
overall decent additions, although Junger got cut out on the way (see >>11892122)

>>11892593
What did Shakespeare do to deserve suffering?

>>11892610
Beauvoir, but she appears twice

>>11892622
That's Cervantes,
add him again then you lazy ass

>>11892610
He was cut out cuz that anon saved it as jpg

>>11892593
Clifford is more of a /co/ thing.

>>11893028
I always thought of Clifford as a children's book rather than a "comic".
I see what you're getting at, Tin Tin straddles the line between literature and comic aswell.

>>11881569
Who’s at 0, 90? With the deformed face?

>>11888135
I concede most of 4chan isn't depressed, nor are all frogposters or "depression" memers, but the reasons you listed (tfw no gf and politics) are perfectly legitimate. We live in pretty precarious times and insecurity and helplessness easily fester into darker feelings.

>>11893097
Joseph Merrick aka The Elephant Man.

>>11893206
Serious politics and serious, lingering loneliness, for sure fester into stuff, as you said, easily. But do many people around here understand politics that well and/or suffer from such level of loneliness? I truly don't know. I hope things aren't that bad.

>>11893288
Technology is practically shattering the human experience before our very eyes and we're left watching it forcibly under fascistically optimistic chants as if accelerationism is the only option we've got. We need to prevent human beings from becoming disposable or more so for things to get better.

>>11893288
Understanding the situation fully isn't needed - there is probably only a handful of people who do really understand. Old hierarchies are disintegrating, new violent tribalism is emerging, work and money is precarious, more people are abandoned, etc. Knowing what is happening is irrelevant, it is happening to us all.

>>11887833
No. Munchhausen by proxy, reinforced by diagnosis, sustained through life, then complicated by years of unnecessary treatment and rapid cessation.
He didn't have depression. He thought he had it. A life of ease doesn't cause depression and people aren't born with "dude chemical imbalance!". You're a moron who has a meme-tier understanding of the disorder.

>>11893489
>You're a moron who has a meme-tier understanding of the disorder.
t. 19 year old redditor psychiatry self-didact with self-diagnosed "depression"

>>11881279
I am also replying to this post to show that I understood the semi-obscure reference too and that I really am an insider of this board.

Very epic my friend.

>>11893499
I don't have depression.

>>11890765
NPCs don't feel pain

someone update it

>>11893678
guess which

>>11893678
I used to hate this meme but I hate the suffering chart more.

>>11893725
Spoken like a (40, 5)

>>11887435
who is the robot at 100, and the demon thing at 95?

>>11893721
>>11880810

>>11887910
Asimov died of AIDS in the early 90s. That probably entailed a lot of suffering.

Also, put Rosa Luxemburg at (100,85).

>Clarence the carrot - 5 suffering, 75 deserved

>>11894376
That "demon thing" is Mr. Wallace, anon

>>11894611
Prince from the Melancholy of Resistance should be 0 suffering, 75 Deserved

Bump

>>11881842
>Job: (0, 100)
no, Job deserved 10, 100

>>11894661
top kek

>>11881569
I like Poe but he deserve more pain than Vercingetorix.

>>11888064
Why the fuck stephen King should surfer ? Poe was a pedophile ! He deserve more surfer !

>>11895675
Why did he deserve anything?

Mack Messer from Brecht's play
Deserved 95, suffering 15

>>11895728
Stephen king looks like a freak and is a bourgeois liberal elitist with lyme disease.

>>11895744

So what ? He deserv less pain than Poe. I like two author but Poe is worst.

>>11896224
Rimbaud suffered a lot more

>>11896672
fine, there is a free spot 10 points away from him

>>11896224
>>11896672
Baudelaire should be somewhere around him

>>11896707
you mean Verlaine?

where does raskolnikov fit on the chart

>>11896224
add
fat bugs to S5 H55
Wilfrid Selllars to S25 H50
Nick Land to S70 H40
smug tapir to S15 H95

>>11896958
80, 80

>>11887435
Dick definitely suffered more than that

>>11896996
more like 40, 80

>>11897002
feel free to move him up a square.

>>11881569
>Junko furuta deserving 15
Jesus Christ why

>>11896717
both I guess

>>11889868
>Far right commie
I guess there's a first time for everything

>>11896982
>smug tapir
whom'st've'dat'mst?

>>11896982
added nick land realistically and others

>>11897481
Deleuze: S60, D20
Guattari: S40, D20
Popper: S55, D85
Modiano: S75, D25

>>11897481
put stoner up there, like s95 and d10

>>11897481
He's not dead yet, brainlet.

>>11897812
... neither are Murakami, Ellis, Coetzee and Pynchon?

>>11881569
Okay I get why they think the Prophet(PBUH) deserved suffering, though he didn't, but what about Husayn? The hell did he do to deserve getting his infant shot?
Also Al Ghazali did nothing wrong, the Islamic philosophers of the time were Aristotelian brainlets.

>>11897481
But Ted was a blessed boy

>>11881279
Really pulling a Gregory Berrycone here

>>11897481
Where's my boy Zizek?
s75, d65?

>>11881279
epicly posted, friend

>>11898154
probably closer to S45 D45, he's been living his best in the recent years and doing really great on all fronts.

Where would Don Quixote, the Knight of the Sorrowful Face, fit in here? Also his loyal squire Sancho Panza? (probably to the upper left of wherever we put the Man of La Mancha)

>>11897481
>.jpg

bump before I go to bed, don't 404 overnight

>>11886289
andrea dworkin:
15, 70

>>11892742
Fuck you're right my bad

Hitting bump limit soon

>>11881569

>0,75

Thanks for making me sad, chart.

>>11880810

Dr. Frankenstein (30,55)

John Proctor (20, 60)

>>11881569
>>11881891

The only reason Robert E. Lee is higher on the suffering scale than Anne Frank is because he foresaw America's descent into a murderous tyranny. And that countless innocents like Anne Frank were condemned to horrible deaths because of his failure, for which he blamed only himself.

>>11881279
Yay, reddit memes. If anyone is wondering:
https://www.reddit.com/r/iamverysmart/comments/3txn5w/the_dictionary_is_wrong/cxa37wz/

>>11899928

>>11899928
are you really such a newfriend you had to google gregory berrycone

>>11888135
>Getting addicted to opiates for no reason then spending too much money on munchies isn't clinical depression.
Opiates don't lead to munchies. They usually lead to rapid weight loss.

The more you know.

>>11889275
It's a confusing graph. By "how much they deserved it", it means "how much they deserved to suffer", not "how much they deserved the level of suffering they experienced". I agree that it's very poorly phrased.

>>11889940
>He didn't have real depression.
I don't like DFW, I think he was a hack and a brianlet, but you can be suicidally depressed without "objective" hardship. I was a severely depressed child, and I assure you that depression does not depend on financial hardship, it depends on emotional hardship.

>>11890161
Nah, she's exactly where she deserves to be.

>>11892229
>A Room of One's Own
Definitely should be a 100 on "how much they deserved it".

>>11892307
>>11892446
Vonnegut saw some shit during WWII, while Trump is a spoiled rich kid. Clearly the former suffered much more than the latter.

>>11897481
Why does Mark Twain deserve more suffering than Vonnegut?

>>11899984
>>11899992
I've been here since long before /lit/ existed, but if reddit is embracing your memes, it means they're reddit-tier, by definition. And yes, I did have to google "gregory berrycone"; my main board is /a/, not this shithole.

>>11882496
Fuck no. Did you even read the fIn book

new thread frens
>>11900567

>>11900263
You’re obviously not from this board