/lit/ - Literature

>year 4000
>Mohammed Xing Balangao Mendez (the eighth) taking Ancient English lessons at the conglomerated world university to look smart to their robot maids

>>11863316
Yeah and? So many things seem eternal but aren't

>>11863414
the english language can't die because it is not a living thing

>>11863316

>>11863432
>The Jetavana Temple bells ring the passing of all things

>>11863434
>language isn't alive
ok, this is epic

>>11863434
Die has multiple definitions, dumb frogposter

>>11863414
I'd actually kind of read a story like that. A retrospective on Western culture set far in the future, from the point of view of someone studying us and our culture and society as a history project.

Has it been done?

>>11863316 good

>>11863316
German will die a hell of a lot sooner than English will lmao

>>11863518
he loved anglo literature

>>11863539
yeah but he then shortens the views to a couple names, and shortens it further to what they did with their writing

English will unironically take over the world.

>>11863316
Let us dance on the grave

>>11863618
this

Considering that English is the language of the internet, I think it's going to stick around for a good while.

>>11863434
What a retard. Next you'll be saying capital isnt sentient.

>>11863494

Probably, it's actually a pretty interesting concept.

>>11863985
what about china

>>11863316
One day you will be dead, so why do you care about the English language?

>>11864030
There are 600 million Chinese studying English right now.

>>11863985
What about Russia

>>11863985
what about finnish

Maybe English will evolve like Latin and will not die

>>11864122
>transcending your limited existence
>who do you care

>>11863985
It's literally not though.

>>11863494
i would write it like a satirical history textbook or essay. really good concept.

>One day they'll have to reconstruct pronunciation and accents from written records

people who live in non English as a first languagecountries, are there any words in your language that you still use when you speak English either because there is no translation or they are important words to your culture?

>Literature does not exist in a vacuum. Writers as such have a definite social function exactly proportioned to their ability AS WRITERS. This is their main use.
>Good writers are those who keep the language efficient. That is to say, keep it accurate, keep it clear.
>If a nation's literature declines, the nation atrophies and decays.

>>11863316
Sure, but it will outlast every other language by miles as it's literally the most useful language in the world, whereas languages like Swedish and German will be dead within just a few decades.

tfw spanish will live forever

>>11863494

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canopus_in_Argos

>>11865845
This seems super interesting. Thanks anon.

>>11863316
>implying God doesn't speak English

>>11866422
>Implying God needs words at all
>Implying God only understand one language and goes no intiendo for all others

God has a welsh accet when he speaks btw

>>11863316
every modern language won't be used in the future. way too inefficient for conveying information in comparison to what can be used without technological constraint.

>>11866453
????

Bits of it are already dead. You either need to read more Auden to see why you should give up or else read Beowulf to get you started saving it.

>>11866467
>þ

>>11863494
Maybe Canticle for Leibowitz?

>>11863434
Based and redpilled
>>11863991
It isn't.

>>11864030
>>11865314
What are the sino and Russo universes of the internet like?
I'm talking about today, not the future or a hypothetical.

>>11863316
(And that's a good thing!)

>>11866501
Uhhhh sweaty...capital *is* sentient.

>>11866506
What do you want to know about russosphere of internet exactly?

>>11863316
inshallah

>>11865845
first book:
>"The history spans from the very beginning of life into a future World War Three. It includes the trial of all Europeans for the crimes of colonialism."
dropped

>>11866548
Whats it's like?
What is the Russian 4chan, the Russian reddit? What forums are there? What hobbies?
Is it like the 1990s to mid 2000s before there were sexual comments everywhere? I remember when I was young, you didn't find sexual stuff or porn unless you were looking for it.
I'd like a nice clean pre social media feeling internet.

>>11866593
Russian 4chan - 2ch.hk
Not at best shape right now, full of underage kids.
Russian reddit - pikabu.ru
Our youth don't use it because pikabu is filled up with boomers.

American culture (in it's worst definition) had taken over ours. Porn, hip hop, selfhatred is everywhere. Our internet culture and culture in general is in big decline right now.

In comparison with anglosphere our internet is much more toxic. It is a cure for my eyes and butt to browse 4chan instead of 2ch.

>>11866666
holy check
Do russians really spit on Dostoevsky? Is it because he hits too close to home or because Russians have lost their way since the slavophile days?

One day we will reverse engineer the human mind and computers will write the most pleasing literature imaginable in the blink of an eye.

>>11866666
>Not at best shape right now, full of underage kids.
>Russian reddit - pikabu.ru
>Our youth don't use it because pikabu is filled up with boomers.
Sounds sort of nice.

>>11867103
>>11866666
The boomer part, not the part about underage kids. Phone posting currently. Didn't mean to select.

>>11863316
the english language is the perfect language. It can phonetically mimic any foreign language. While we dont have masculine and feminine variations of words, it can still be described with words.

>>11866718
I don't hate soviets but they are definitely destroyed us as(ethnically russian) a nation. We have two types of people right now:
1.Mostly youth: Hate their ancestors, read liberal media, want to migrate to the western countries or make russia like canada, sweden etc.
2.Mostly geezers: "Noviops" product of soviet regime. Refer themselves as russians and orthodox but in fact they are not.

>>11866870
>pleasing literature
the plebs will never learn, let them eat and be merry

>>11863316
Wow, look at this racist who wants to preserve his culture. You should be learning AAVE right now (but not speaking it because that would be appropriation)

>>11863316
>one day the english language will be dead

>>11867249
>niggerspeak

>>11863494
Imagine a Neo-Chinese scholar trying to make a name for himself 2500 years from now translating an epic involving the expulsion of the Mahometans from Europe. Here's an excerpt of the traditional stodgy status quo fuddy-duddy translation:

>Gas the jews
>Race war now

Cyber-Yang, however, explains that "jew" is etymologically derived from "Judaea", a place in what is now the Crusader Kingdoms but for most of recorded history up to that point was populated by Mahometan Arabs. "Race" could have several meanings; previously translators assumed that the word referred to the invading, but we also know that contests of speed, particularly involving motor vehicles, were very popular on the European continent. These competitions reached a height with what they referred to as "Formula One". This contest was open only to professionals, although many other citizens engaged in lesser contests informally. This also explains the puzzling use of the word "gas", which has traditionally been rendered as 气体 but which, in the original, is both homophonic and homonymic with 汽油, used as a fuel for motorized vehicles during that period. So, our improved translation now reads:

>Fuel the Arabs
>That they may race with us

This is just one example. As you can see, such improvements in understanding challenge the unexamined historical narratives often used to prop up xenophobic viewpoints.

>>11867249
Those ebonics aren't too accurate, especially the last one

>>11867164
Okay but what about Dostoevsky

>>11867320
you pasta'd this, but I can't remember where I first saw it. You win today scholar-fag.

>>11867249
Simplified syntax of the dead-beat race.
Checking my INT privilege has never been this inspiring.

>>11867320
That was fucking funny even if it is a pasta

>>11867155
>Can phonetically mimic every other language

>>11867249
Op here. English is not my first language.

>>11863486
Yea op was clearly thinking of die as in dice singular

>>11867249
>A textbook by David Foster Wallace

>>11863494
As all others who have responded to your post have said: I fucking love your idea.

>>11863494
It'd be difficult to do this and not be pure ideology

one day, everything will b ded

>>11868469
no u

>>11868469
anon be cry

>>11863316
One day the human race will be dead

So what. Everyone in this thread will be dead long before we see either happen.

>>11867348
>implying that some forms of babble are less accurate than others
Wow, look at this prescriptivist.

>>11863316
It’s already dead.

>>11863494
It's part contained in Houllebeqc as a recurrent section between chapters and features in a Borges story.

Ben Marcus' The Age of Wire and String goes all in on the idea, but in high modernist style that's fuckhard to parse

>>11869789

>>11863316
english language won't die because there's too many selfpublisher's

Imagine 63rd century archeologist trying to figure out memes, 4chan threads and youtube vids transcribed into illuminated manuscripts by some monk before the fall of the internet

>>11867320
>fuel the arabs
Always gets me

>>11863523
God Bless

>>11863316
Everything that dies, deserves to die.

>>11867164
I have a russian friend who thinks he is a communist, but after an argument I think I made him realize that what he professes is actually neoliberalism

>>11863316
Yes, hopefully soon.

>>11867320

>>11863494
The Iron Heel presents mini chapters where a futuristic socialist utopia reflects on the main story taking place in the early 20th century

The end is nigh

>>11870256
makes sense

>>11868448
K E K

>>11868469
False

Since we are talking about English, is there a good concise guide to early modern English vocabulary and grammar? It's used in the KJV of course but I read ancient Greek and Latin texts that are translated in it. Like right now I'm reading G.M. Cookson's translation of Aeschylus's plays and I can understand what it's saying fine when reading it all together but there's still so many unfamiliar words that I won't remember after this even if I look them up as I read along. I'd love to be able to write like this someday for fun

>>11863316
well if you really think about it one day (however distant may be) you, everybody that ever knew you and every place you ever went to will be gone

vulcan mind melds when

>>11866489
Lit would be so much better if we memed it into proper mediaeval manuscript notation.