/lit/ - Literature

>>11854423
You really can't compare Latin America with Europe since the former has only existed for 200+ years. And I think it's more a question of culture rather than skin colour. Canada and Australia pale in comparison to countries in Latin America.

Whites are the master race

>>11854423
It’s not whites, it’s white males. Female whites are on about the same level as black people.

>>11854423
>4 Great Novels of China, the Manyoshu of Japan, the Sanskrit Epics, the Qur'an, the medieval Persian poets, the Tang poets, the Latin American magical realist novelists, the Post-colonial African novelists, Not one of them can compete.
You went to niche and then expected what you read to be better than what an entire civilization has achieved? Literature has always been a predominantly Western art form, so it's not surprising, really. It's like asking "who are the best people doing anime?"

>>11854456
>Virginia Woolf is the same as a nigger
kys

>>11854456
based and redpilled

>>11854423
Literally the Koran, Sanskrit epics, a good amount of the mid evil Persian poets, and almost all Latin American literature was made by someone who was white, you’re blowing it all out of your ass to say otherwise

>>11854487
>Arabs
>Persians
>White

I wonder if eastern shitposters are at the level we have here.
I wonder if modern Eastern Writers can compare to modern Westerners.

For the sake of continuing the discussion, and not devolving into some meme genetic explanation that does not exist, it was MEDIA.
The Alphabet + avaliability of cheap and light writing materials created a democratization of reading/writing(the printing press chugged this up a hundred-fold), at the same time it MOBILIZED THE CENTER and started DESTROYING the tribes of the land, individualism is Western, in the east there are many more reasons for you to be shot for saying something in comparison to the West.

Have you read Tagore? The Sanskrit epics are actually comparable to the Greek classics, you shouldn't take it as being representative of Indian literature.

>Greek
>Italian
>French
>Irish

>white

>>11854568
>you're not white
Yeas goym goood

>>11854509
>muhammad Arab
>schythians and zorastrians dravidian

nice try Rapeesh/Rageesh

>>11854423
most magical realists are memes
Read Borges,Vallejo, Allende and Cortazar
Nieves y Bustamante is a woman
>>11854435
this

>>11854423
Goethe is only one there that is both actually white and a good writer.

>>11854462
She's probably worse.

>>11854423
All writers are actually jewish

>>11855976
>g*rmans
>white

>>11854423
Cause they're not mutt like you op

>>11854462
Don't insult the niggers, mate

>>11854423
well, Chinese poetry is actually in many ways superior to Western and this is frankly incorrect there are many elaborate tuns of phrase in Eastern literature. Its because they’re higher iq and creativity than other races, that’s it. Asians have weak verbal iq comparatively and all other non-Asiatic races are significantly lower iq on average.

>>11854423
Ok but Zhuangzi BTFOs most of western philosophy and does it with beautifully elegant style and humour.

>>11854435
Could try. All of the best Gaelic poets are Canadian.

>>11856184
>Good try
wtf

>>11855499
>most magical realists are memes
>read Allende
What did he mean by this

>>11854509
If you use "White" as in Caucasoid, yes. If you use it as Nordic/Anglo Saxon, no.

>>11856107
Goethe hated Germans. He was praising Napoleon while the French army pillaged German cities and raped their women.

>>11856272
Just whites raping whites so why did it matter?
One race right?

>>11856832
French are superior to Germans so really they were doing them a favor

Northern climates that were difficult to survive in, need to plan ahead for food storage, non-tribal social networks, and other cultural pressures led to whites being hyper individualists. Individualism and the ability to come up with outside of the box solutions to difficult problems to survive in harsh climates selects for creativity. This unique creative disposition is what led to whites inventing everything and performing the best at creative persuits, of which writing/literature is a paramount example. Other high IQ groups like Asians and kikes have a more clannish, rote-based intelligence that leads to them not being creative and thus never having created much of value and importance in literature and elsewhere.

>>11856107
They ARE the whites.

>>11854423
I honestly don't know, you see the same thing with classical music and oil painting. Nobody else even comes close.

Compare to architecture, every race have examples of great architecture

>called white
>actually pink
Fraud hacks

>>11856101
All jews are actually sl*vs

>white guy was born and exposed exclusively to white guy texts
>embraced in the culture for a couple decades
>reads foreign text that he has not been indoctrinated to like
>doesnt like it
big wow

>>11854423
depression

>>11855976
ur off ur rocker with that v. woolf statement mate

>>11858472
>indoctrinated to like

>>11858472
>indoctrinated to like
schools nowadays (or at least colleges) try to get students into token authors all the time and constantly say shit like "who wants to read books from a bunch of old dead white guys?"

>>11854456
Correct

>>11854456
I mean, I totally get what you're saying and I agree but still, there are better female writers than black writers. Let's at least be honest.

>>11857873
Jews have contributed plenty to literature including the bedrock of it all: the Bible. The fact that they are even in consideration when they are less than 1/200th the population size and never had a stable homeland until very recently means something

>>11859333
>the Bible
You mean that book with stories they ripped off from Mediterranean cultures they jewed? Jews are terrible writers and their contributions to literature are way more negative than positive.

>>11859333
>the bedrock of it all: the Bible.

So I guess you just completely forgot the Greeks exist huh?

> doesn’t read Arabic poetry
Get out of my face

>>11856272
Explain Hermann und Dorothea then. (Which you haven't read because you are a pseud)

Bump

>>11854423
>no one has refuted his point
Are we all racist, stupid or is anon just plain right?

>>11859333
>modern Jews wrote the Bible
Lmao

>>11859333
every book a jew writes is basically a self insert where the main character is a jew, highly neurotic, and a degenerate.

Everything a jew ever created can be summed up in the phrase "OY VEY WAIT TILL MY THERAPIST HEARS ABOUT THIS"!

white men understand the two basic rules of writing, well the good ones do.

1. you are not your characters
2. when it comes to prose, less is more

Every book written by a minority is usually about how they are a minority, or about the minority experience.
I mean could a nigger have written game of thrones? I mean a straight copy of game of thrones. Not some sort of game of thrizzzones .

Jews are good at stand up comedy. Its the only art they specalize in because they go up on stage and use the crowd as thier therapist and talk about what a loser they are and everyone laughs at them

>>11854423
>whites

Ummmm sweetie, there's more diversity between the people in that image, honey, than there is between them and a random assortment of black people.

>>11861249
Those are both terrible rules. It sounds like something they’d tell you at a genre fiction convention

>>11861490
okay, write purple prose and make every character you. Im sure it wont come out shit

>>11861506
Prose with simple words and short sentences is for women and non-whites. White men who write should be creative and bold in style.

>>11854423
BASED

>>11861296
its the other way around anon. blacks have more diversity among themselves and far more distance between them and every other race than the rest of the world's races have between each other. A han and a swede are more closely related than Sub-Saharan africans are to meds or middle easterners.

>>11864442
you have to remember the Pygmies and Bushmen however, they are truly way the fuck out there on the phylogenetic tree. If you group the main races of humans it is Pygmies, Bushmen, and literally everybody else including Bantus and NIlotics and etc.

The poster youre replying to is merely repeating the Lewontin fallacy and probably incapable of approaching this topic honestly

>>11854534
from my limited knowledge of Chinese, it's the only language I've encountered that is actually as beautiful as English. I know for a fact that Chinese-internet memes are highly powerful but their development is stunted slightly by their government. Their literature is normally really badly translated because they're two of the hardest languages to understand. Is it on the level of the West (that fiction of a monolithic West, that is)? I have no way of knowing. But there's nothing stopping it from being great.

>>11864466
Chinese is a hideous language, Martian cluck-speak written in chicken scratch.

>>11854423
Non of these are real whites, please post real whites.

>>11854534
>It was MEDIA
Jews are the real talent as usual.

>>11864632
Jews have no talent beyond parasitism and mimicry, which is why they've been leeching off everyone else since the dawn of recorded time.

>>11864661
Dont be ridiculous Jews are clearly very talented a number of things including math, physics, law, literature, chess, etc.

They aren't good at writing. They're good at killing everyone else in the area and forcing the few left to be illiterate, so until 200 years ago or so basically no one else wrote in (whatever shitty colonial language you speak).

Your favorite people in history are largely accidental to the shape of history.

It's the exact same reason you have very few female authors in comparison to male for the vast majority of premodern history. Unfortunately, we inherited the writing of people whose achievements were more martial than intellectual. No war or genocide was decided with florid and subtle poetry.

>>11854435
>of culture rather than skin colour.
Race is far more than that. Humans are akin to dog breeds. You can easily spot even tribal differences.

*blocks your path*

>>11864689
You're mistaken. All of those fields have declined or become a farce as jews have come to control and guide them from the second half of the 20th century to today. They're parasites whose capabilities are limited to deceptively mimicking host behavior to acquire resources. They can't actually do or create or effectively run things on their own because they are rootless swindlers by nature. This is why they've never been able to live on their own, or create or build anything on their own.

>>11864746
are you saying people like von Neumann and Einstein were frauds?

>>11855976
speaking of Goethe can somebody for the love of God please give me a link to his original theory of colors? I've seen it indirectly mentioned so much, with so little direct source material that for all I know he never even had anything to do with it.

>>11864768
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/50572
download the epub with the pics

Also it took me about 5 seconds to find that on google anon, come on now

>>11864761
idk about Neumann, but einstein certainly was. Not in being an unimportant figure, but in his crafting of a public image as "greatest scientist" when he was at most in the top 50 of his contemporaries

>>11864761
Einstein was a plagarist everyone thought was an idiot until he left his job at the patent office. Jews had zero sci/tech achievements pre-1800s and those attributed to them after they were let out of the pen are results of high European/German admixture or jewing/swindling. The jew is a levantine parasite, it does not create, it destroys.

>>11856259
Caucasoids are europeans though, most Europeans have some ethnic relations to nordic countries

>>11864791
West Asians, North Africans, and Europeans are all Caucasoids/Europids with a relatively recent shared heritage.

>>11854435
It's both.

>>11854456
I really hate to compliment females but they are objectively superior to nogs and spics. White spics are obviously more capable of creativity, but a white Swedish woman is worth like 20 mestizos unless they happen to be latina qt's or exceptionally talented athletes.

>>11864817
>this post
things sure have changed in the past 5 years lol. I think i may have to start being antiracist if I want to maintain that delicious contrarian status

>>11864801
If you are reffering to Russians as west asians
and Egyptians as caucasoids as caucasoids, then you are wrong in assuming all those are categorized as caucasoids

>>11864824
do what you gotta do to feel more like you baby, the world is yours.

>>11864884
>If you are reffering to Russians as west asians
Russians are Europeans
>and Egyptians as caucasoids as caucasoids
What?
then you are wrong in assuming all those are categorized as Caucasoids
Both Russia and Egypt are Caucasoid. Egypt has a moderate Negroid admixture and Russia has a slight Mongoloid admixture.

>>11864894
This might not mean much, but as a russian you can defiantly understand you are treated and seen as different from other europeans, its sorta the racism you experiance if you got to japan (you are simply treated as something foreign and lesser then others)
Pretty much all of Europe hates russians, its a fact and its something
Im sure that its no the same for other slavs (but other slavs arent really west- asian) + Russians commonly reffer to Europe as westerners as they dont have the same culture
I dont know about modern Egypt, i was more referring to Ancient Egypt and their population (who arent similar to modern egyptians)

>>11864921
slavs are a different genetic cluster than western Euros, but they are still identifiably a group comapred to like MENA or central asians

>>11864761
Partially yes.
>>11864776
Also agree with this anon about Einstein. He's still an pretty important scientist but I think its ridiculous that his name has become synonymous with genius.

>>11864921
Depends on the cluster. I've seen clusters where West Asia and Europe are really closely intertwined, enough so that you couldn't really draw a dividing line. Occasionally they even combine them into a greater West Eurasian category.

>>11864957
Sorry was meant for
>>11864930

>>11864957
you definitely can't draw a dividing line, but generally speaking everybody in Europe is heavily indo-european, with admixture from the populations who were there before the indo-euros invaded, and then admixture from later invading populations like Arabs in the Mediteranean or Mongols in East Europe.

Obviously this is complicated stuff, you can't draw blanket categories, it is an immense intertangled tree-delta of sorts, branching and merging.

But Russians should be considered basically gneetically European imo. Russian civilization and culture on the other hand I believe is distinct completely from the West. Heavily influenced of course, but distinct.

>>11864968
>indo-european
That's a language group that doesn't even fit all Europeans.

>>11864996
It was a group of people who conquered europe and much of central asia all the way into Northern India

Please tell me you arent an anthro student who has fallen for the 'languages and culture peacefully pass from people to peopel' isntead of historybeing constant slaughter and enslavement by more dominant groups

lest you come back at me and start sperging about Basque or Finno-Ugric, please remember these are large trends in an immensely complex tapestry, there are no stable holistic categorizations to be made

>>11864968
>everybody in Europe is heavily Indo-European
The north has a solid amount of IE admixture. The south has less of this admixture, and is roughly on par with the northern parts of West Asia. The southern parts of West Asia have even less than that, and North Africa has negligible amounts.
The language doesn't follow the genetics as cleanly as people might think. Sardinia is a good example of that.
Russians are Slavs, and Slavs are thoroughly European, but there is no great genetic divide between Europe and Asia. It's more of a spectrum.

>>11865015
Hey, be nice, man. We are all friends here.
Obviously the stuff wasn't peaceful, but this board leans way too hard in the direction of Game of Thrones-tier rape and pillage.

>>11865039
I don't think we actually disagree about anything we are just veering towards opposite points of view with which to interpret the data.

I would mention though that apart from the the IE admixture the European people share earlier admixture from the groups who were there prior to the invasion of the IEs.

Albinism is a skin condition

>>11865068
I'm sure we aren't in disagreement either.
You're referring to the WHG, I think. That seems to be the chief difference between West and East genetically, since West Asians have only little amounts of it, although it doesn't really amount to much. The other pre IE aspect, the ENF, is shared by West Asians.

>>11865078
>the ENF, is shared by West Asians.
I honestly didnt know that, I am an amateur in the subject. Ty though, that does blend them a bit more, i looked up a few maps of this and see what you are saying

And well i understand that it is a spectrum, but I thought that there were nonetheless clusters that made it somewhat sensible to group EE with WE to the exclusion of Central Asia and the Middle East.

Like these groups will all bleed into each other in multiple subtle ways along these ancient genomic expansions, but if you map average distances isn't that what you get?

Also could you expand on the South having less, is this because of less original contribution or because of subsequent invasions by MENA peoples?

>>11865099
>And well i understand that it is a spectrum, but I thought that there were nonetheless clusters that made it somewhat sensible to group EE with WE to the exclusion of Central Asia and the Middle East.
Yeah, no doubt. It all depends on the level of detail you're interested in. There definitely exists a level that groups most European nations together, although I think it would be difficult to group all European nations together without having to include the more European-leaning West Asian nations.
>Like these groups will all bleed into each other in multiple subtle ways along these ancient genomic expansions, but if you map average distances isn't that what you get?
Something like that, I think.
>Also could you expand on the South having less, is this because of less original contribution or because of subsequent invasions by MENA peoples?
Well the south is just further away from the IE homeland so, when the migrations arrive there, they've already diluted themselves with Old European admixture plus arriving in smaller numbers. Places like Sardinia were never hit by the IE wave at all and are basically bastions of purely Old European genetics.
The invasions by MENA peoples, when people accuse Greeks of being Turks and Spaniards of being Moors, is mostly a meme. The Greeks for example, have only become whiter since ancient times due to Slavic admixture and the same goes for Southerm Europeans in general. They didn't mix with MENA peoples, they just always looked like them.

>>11865146
Interesting stuff, do you study the subject, or are you just interested in it?

Also I thought it was established that the Italians and Spaniards at least have MENA influence from the Arab conquest of parts of their countries. Also I was under the impressin that ancient Greece, and by extension Egypt under Greek rule, had heavy indo-european admixture, which was then mediated by arab expansion, is this a meme i have been fed?

>>11865162
>Interesting stuff, do you study the subject, or are you just interested in it?
Just an interest as this stuff appears on /his/ a lot, which I browse.
>Also I thought it was established that the Italians and Spaniards at least have MENA influence from the Arab conquest of parts of their countries.
Parts, for sure, but not much. I wouldn't put it over 5%.
>Also I was under the impressin that ancient Greece, and by extension Egypt under Greek rule, had heavy indo-european admixture, which was then mediated by arab expansion, is this a meme i have been fed?
Greeks have about 15-20% IE admixture, which is more than Spain and Southern Italy, less than the more northerly parts of Europe, and roughly on par, maybe a bit higher than the northern parts of the ME plus the Caucasus.
It's mostly a meme concocted by those that claim that Nordic people founded Western civilization, which is usually based on Greek statues and Gods that they think are modelled on a Northern European appearance, suggesting a Nordic ruling class. This has already been disproven via archaeogenetics. I saw a post the other day that claimed Indo-Europeans founded the Pre-Columbian American civilizations by sailing over there on reed boats.

>>11865204
>saw a post the other day that claimed Indo-Europeans founded the Pre-Columbian American civilizations by sailing over there on reed boats.
This is a meme among the 'traditionalist' ancient civilization people, Im well aware of this. It's an Atlantean-Hyperborean myth that has no basis in sceince

I was talking more about the idea that the Greeks seem to have been significantly whiter back in the day, white here meaning memes like Achilles is referred to as having had golden hair, and some Egyptian pharoahs have had genetic analysis done to them that indicates mostly european admixture.

these were all on mainstream popsci websites so i didnt question it. they arent in any way implicating a 'Nordics birthed all civilization' model. Civilization obviously started independently in the Fertile Crescent, in China and the Indus river valley, in Peru and in Mexico, that I have read about, none of which have to do with Nordics.

>>11865219
>I was talking more about the idea that the Greeks seem to have been significantly whiter back in the day, white here meaning memes like Achilles is referred to as having had golden hair, and some Egyptian pharoahs have had genetic analysis done to them that indicates mostly european admixture.
The gold may carry symbolic value. I'm West Asian and was born with blonde hair and grey eyes, which is common in my family. So it's not like you need to be Nordic to be familiar with blonde hair. And, in this case, it would make sense for blonde hair to be associated with youth. Plus, the Greek word for golden, xanthos, was also used to describe deer fur and burnt meat, so it's a dice roll over what they considered golden.
I remember the article that said Tutankhamun's dna was tested European. Is that what you were referring to? It was confirmed that Tut's haplogroup was R1b, which is the dominant haplogroup in Western Europe. It doesn't mean he was European, rather, it means that Tut was patriliniearly descended from someone with the R1b haplogroup, which is associated with the Indo-Europeans, but it may have well just been that one ancestor, making him only very slightly Indo-European, which is basically what Egyptian/Arabs are already.
If it's another article, I wouldn't mind you linking me to it.

>>11865237
>The gold may carry symbolic value
For sure man

Also again it's not about being Nordic at all, it's just the general European admixture, which you have made clear extends to West Asia, but is distinct from actual MENA genetics- for the most part.

I want you to know I am not even vaguely coming at this from a Nord-centric perspective, Im not even Nordic. It was just what I had read about Greeks and Egyptians, it could be bullshit, what do I know.

ty for all your info in any case, you are clearly very informed. I understand what you mean about Tut being perhaps only vaguely related to the R1b haplogroup.

I honestly have a bad proclivity to believe the things which go against the dominant paradigm because I am so used to them lying. I know I have to get rid of that because the contrarians lie just as much.

>>11865259
>It was just what I had read about Greeks and Egyptians, it could be bullshit, what do I know.
Yeah this website in general is rife with disinformation, and only some of it is extreme enough to recognize. You should also take what I say with a grain of salt though, just for the sake of preserving independent thought.
>I honestly have a bad proclivity to believe the things which go against the dominant paradigm because I am so used to them lying. I know I have to get rid of that because the contrarians lie just as much.
Just learn as much as you can from whoever you can. Guys like OP are obviously just out to race bait but the discussion isn't always a shitshow, although it often is.

>>11865274
I don't get my info from this website, I mostly just read random books, and then shitpost here for maximum effect. But sometimes I get posters like you and you genuinely engage and even know more than I do about what i am talking about, which is deeply gratifying, because I learn things.

Keep posting on anon, you are a good poster.

>>11854435
>You really can't compare Latin America with Europe since the former has only existed for 200+ years

Wait what, how has Latin America only existed for 200 years

>>11854534
Glad to see other litizens read McLuhan

>>11858394
Examples of great black architecture, pls.

>>11854462
There actually are decent women writers, why would you pick this über-hack Woolf?

>>11859333
"Jews" from Europe. They are Europeans larping as an ancient oriental people (though still white if we consider the thread). They are genetically closest to Italians, not Palestinians.
>this is the part where you say Italians aren't white either

>>11865499
Jews are not from Europe, and they are not white, they are the main people destroying Europe by promoting mass immigration right now and they hate whites.
>They are genetically closest to Italians, not Palestinians.
Jews are half Italian half semite, but the Italian part is from Roman era kikery. They remixed and clearly behave more semite than European.

>>11865554
>admit that some whites aren't on your side
OR
>invoke /pol/ tier pseudo history to explain that the blonde haired blue eyed guy next door isn't white and is somehow genetically predisposed to hating you based on one of the language he speaks being classified within the language family you don't like

>>11865576
Not sure what you're getting at but all you're really doing is highlighting how you don't understand jews. Jews are the enemy of whites, they readily admit this and are the main people pushing diversity, white privilege, and anti-white propaganda in media, academia, Hollywood, and elsewhere. You have to be retarded to not see that at this point.

>>11864921
It definitely is the same for other slavs. They treat us basically like the mexicans of europe. It´s got more to do with our weak economies than geography.

RUSSIANS ARE NOT WHITE.

>>11854423
Thanks to Eckermann's notes, we know that the birth of world literature took place in the afternoon of January 31, 1827 at Goethe's house.
By the time, Eckermann had been in Weimar for over a year and a half and had settled into a routine. A few times a week, he would have dinner at Goethe's. On that Wednesday, he hadn't been at Goethe's for several days, so Goethe had all kinds of thoughts and reflections pent up and was holding forth, reporting on what he had done and read since they last met. Apparently he had been reading a Chinese novel. Really? That must have been rather strange, Eckermann explains.
But this was not the right reaction.
After a year and a half, Eckermann had still not fully understood his master. No. Much less so than one thinks, Goethe reprimanded him and began to lecture.
Eckermann liked it when Goethe lectured.
There was always something to be learned. Goethe started about the influence of the British writer
Samuel Richardson on his own work, which Eckermann listened to
with polite interest. But before long, Goethe came back to Chinese novels, en masse. Eckermann was still skeptical.
What?
>These Chinese novels are decent? >More decent than the French, Goethe replied. Eckermann ventured that this Chinese novel must be quite an unusual, the exception to the rule. The master's voice was stern. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Chinese have thousands of them.
>And they had them when our ancestors were still living in the trees.Eckermann was speechless. Goethe took advantage of the silence and topped the claim
with a truly ludicrous one. The time has come for the epoch of world of literature.
And everyone must seek to accelerate it

Source? Gesprache mit Goethe. That's right op, these words are from one of those whiteys you are harping on about. Op BTFO

>>11865619
Based

>>11865039
It doesn't exist any scientific term called "IE admixture", it doesn't exist any genetic association to the term Indo Eureopean, which is only related to language and culture. So wtf are you speaking about? you are trying to revival some nazi theories.

>>11866186
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Europeans

I'm not sure you are evaluating eastern literature fairly. Logographic writing isn't really compatible with the kind of wordplay you praise.

Kanji have nuance in a way that letters do not, which makes choosing "surprising" words less important.

A word written in kanji is not emotionally isolated, it borrows meaning from other words that share its kanji. Kanji also borrow meaning from their component graphemes.

The perfect word choice in an eastern language can be akin to a metaphor in English.

>>11866186
Fair point. I should specify that IE admixture is a shorthand for genetic similarity to exhumed bodies that are classified as being part of one of the cultures that we associate with the Proto-Indo-Europeans.

>>11865602
Jews are white. Just because they're tribalistic and won't drop their nationalism and assimilate into their host countries, that doesn't make them not white.

>>11868705
Jews aren't just one race.

>>11865324
200+ years of becoming independent and btfo the oppressive monarchies.

>>11865489
Have you even read The Waves?

>>11869324
I think Ashkenazi is implied as they are the people that are relevant to everyone's gripes about Jews in general. I don't think Ethiopian Jews are plotting anything desu.

>>11864890
>eeeeeeek.

>>11854423

>>11858394
>Compare to architecture, every race have examples of great architecture
See it's funny you should say this, as I've been thinking about this very topic recently, and quite frankly, everything OP said about literature can apply to architecture as well.

If you actually took time to compare architectural accomplishments of different civilization starting from Antiquity to today, you will notice that the West, during its peak periods at least, was arguably leagues ahead of the Orient.
Hell, even during the High Middle Ages, Euros created some pretty sophisticated architecture, aesthetically and technically, that eclipsed anything the Chinese or the Indians would create in the following centuries, pic related. And let's not even mention the masterpieces of the Modern Period.

>>11854568

>>11857775
This is a fact. G*rmans have nothing on the French and the Anglos.

>>11854423

>>11871548
India has stuff like this, the Muslims have their mosques, Egypt has the pyramids, Greeks had the parthenon, I guess Greeks were white(?) etc.

Really the one civilization that seems to have not made interesting architecture is China, they just have those temples. Of course they have plenty of crazy shit now

>>11857873
Yeah, except the northern climates of Britain, France, Italy and Western Germany weren't actually cold or difficult to survive in you brainlet, you're thinking of Russia.

Western Europe was located on a relatively high latitude, but its climate was temperate due to oceanic/sea influences of the Atlantic and the Mediterranean. It was mild, not too hot, not too hot, and with sufficient precipitation all year round, which together with favorable topography, river systems and extensive coasts allowed for advanced civilization to develop.

The Europeans' creativity was not an adaptation to harsh climate, if that were the case, then Russians would have been the most prosperous, advanced civilization on the planet, which of course they were not.
So get out of here with that bullshit.

so you guys are telling me that even if I'm a fat neet who lives in his mothers basement and posts on 4chan all day as long as I'm mostly white and I vote for donald trump I have nothing to be ashamed of because my ancestors conquered the world and invented everything and went to the moon?

we were kings?

>>11871670
russia is glorious paradise comrade

>>11871670
Correction:
The northern climates of Britain, France, Italy and Western Germany weren't actually cold or difficult to survive in starting with the Middle Ages, it is around that time that it started to warm up.
Before that, it really was a frozen shithole, but we're not discussing 1000 BC Europe.

>>11871686
Yes, we were, and still are.

>>11871718
wtf?!? I have pride in other peoples accomplishments now!!

>>11871726
you have pride in nothing but seethe with resentment at your betters instead of admiring and trying to emulate them

>>11871745
t. reddit

>>11854423
Eh, slightly reductionist, and with a blaring ignorance for eastern writing.

Let's all agree, colonization raped most cultures chance of truly achieving literary greatness.

>>11861296
Based.

>>11864817
>This post
Holy fucking kek anon you made me laugh.

>>11854435
>le skin colour
>we R all one race, the human race except for skin colour

Just actually go and kill yourself

>>11854509
Persians were white, Iranians today, well today there are lots of arabic ones, but the aryans are still there.

>>11864817

>>11865099
>>11865259
>all that spacing
My friend, work on your post formatting.

>>11871745
sounds like you're the one that's seething, cuck

>>11871670
>then Russians would have been the most prosperous, advanced civilization on the planet, which of course they were not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_literature

You know, during communism, all the smart Russians were killed, communism had a tremendous dysgenic effect on Russia.
And JEWS were at the forefront of that movement, never forget that.

>>11871652
>the Muslims have their mosques
I can only think of like 4-5 mosques that compare to the beauty of your average cathedral.

>>11871638
>Anglos
You speak as if Anglos aren't just Franco-German rapebabies.

>>11865606
>It´s got more to do with our weak economies than geography.
Think anon, think! These two things are not unrelated.

>>11871860
We are genestealers. It worked, though, didn't it, we rule the world now

>>11871897
>we rule the world now
Whatever you say that gets big daddy drumpfs attention Nigel.

>>11871860
also celtic and 'briton'(idk what these guys even were but they were almost entirely replace by the Anglo invasion)

>>11871902
>Implying America isn't Anglo civilization
>Implying Anglo civilization doesn't rule the world
>Implying Anglo civilization hasn't ruled the world for at least 200 years
Sure, we brought you the Cathedral, but also most of science and technology. Thank an anglo next time you flick a switch rather than light a candle, or avoid dying of a minor infectious disease

>>11871849
Yes, I fully understand that Russians in particular created some of the finest literature the world has seen, and I personally read much of it - Dostoevsky is one of my favorite authors.
I was a bit harsh and lazy so I didn't want to drivel on and make a wall of text encapsulating all the nuance.

>>11871902
Americans are Anglo offshoots so in many ways he's right.

>>11871921
>we brought you the Cathedral
Nigger what?
>avoid dying of a minor infectious disease
Pasteur wasn't anglo dumbfuck and neither were guys like Robert Koch or Semmelweis. I agree anglos did most of the heavy lifting when it came to harnessing electricity but you're also ignoring important work being done on the continent by guys like Volta just to name one.

>>11871939
Americans today are all fucking mutts that speak anglo since they founded it but they're not anglo anymore.

>>11854456
>Female whites are on about the same level as black people.

Mentally and emotionally

>>11864768

Just read Schopenhauer's theory instead, it's clearly superior

>dark is a color

Lmao

>>11871977
Read Moldbug. Also, you mad non-whiteboi

>>11871997
>Moldbug
Fucking who? Speak in american you non-white anglonigger.

>>11869411
Right but there were people there prior to monarchies, and before the 15th century (generously), there were no oppressive monarchies, so whats their excuse for producing exactly zero literature? This isn't even me being eurocentric, nobody would question the fact that China or Iran or India have produced SOME literature that is worthwhile historically. People have been living in South America for a very long time, a very long time before the first European foot even trod on their soil, so where is their writing? Augustine wrote City of God in the mid 400s AD, what was going on in South America at that point that prevented them from producing an Augustine?

>>11871977
>Americans today are all fucking mutts that speak anglo since they founded it but they're not anglo anymore.
This is what /pol/tards get wrong - what matters is not the heritage of the unwashed masses, but that of the elites. And the elites in America are for the most part white Anglo Protestants. So, yes, it still is an Anglo civilization in essence, but you fail to see shit.

Are you going to argue that Indians under British rule weren't actually a part of the British empire, simply because they vastly outnumbered the English? Come on now.

>inb4 the Jews are the actual elites
Pic related

>>11872098
>And the elites in America are for the most part white Anglo Protestants
No, there's plenty of Irish Catholics and all kinds of mutt shit up in there now too. And yes, so are Jews.

>>11854435
>Latin America only existed for 200+ years
The Americas rose from the World Ocean Atlantis-style two centuries ago, but the gubmint-media propaganda machine tries to bury this fact to protect their nefarious interests. #TheTruthWillEmerge #WakeUpShermaids

>>11872020
>Fucking who?
>Only the greatest historical-theoretical mind of the 21st century (so far)
Not shitposting anymore, anon, seriously read him. Think Orwell's insight x1000 plus Mencken's entertaining prose. Thank me later

>>11854423
If the gap between the West and the rest is hilariously massive with literature, just think about music for a moment. It's like they aren't even trying lmao

>>11854423
>what CAN be translated are creative expressions
well yeah but this assumes that the translator is as skilled of a writer as the author, or that there even is a translation for each particular word or phrase used.

That being said, white people have been educated for much longer than other races, except maybe for Asians. But Asian languages have many words and phrases that can't translate to English.