/lit/ - Literature

She would pee on the books.

>>11854963
No, she can read very fast though.

>>11854958
is this a disguised shelf thread?

group of 4 /out/ anons stumble upon a crashed alien spaceship. Pilot is dead. They don't know what to do so they make a post on /sci/ asking for help. With the help of /sci/ anons they manage to get inside and figure out how shit works. They find out that this spaceship is far more advanced than human technology. It can do variety of cool shit like sending a powerful EM impulses or put them all in stasis. They decide to do just that.

first they fly behind the solar system for safety, then they are setting a ship to constant EM impulses focused on earth. Whole earth goes blackout. They put themselves into 2 years stasis. After that they come back to earth and see that shit reversed into medieval times.

In a new world they are treated like Gods.

sorry for my english. Not my first language. What do you think?

>tfw you finish a book and don't know if the copy you have is defective and is missing chunks of story or if the author forgot to add those missing chunks
Shit's weird. Just looked through the reviews for it and no one mentioned it seeming like parts of the story were missing.

These threads should be expanded to include horror literature.

>>11855070
I've been saying this for years.

>>11855078
Yeah, other than Lovecraft shitpositing, there's not quite enough interest for it to sustain its own threads, so including it here would allow for the possibility of increased discussion without crowding out anything else. And it falls under the same speculative fiction umbrella as scifi and fantasy.

>>11855070
Isn't horror allowed?
I see it discussed here on the regular, although I suppose it's only supernatural horror.

>>11855070
No.

>>11855035
boring

>>11855131

>>11855133
do NOT post anime in my fucking thread

>>11855178
YOUR thread? Don't make me laugh.

>>11855178
I will. You don't get to post spooky shit though.

>>11855035
It's pretty shit desu

>I'm so glad I spent that time reading science fiction and fantasy!

Alright, I finished the second draft of my fantasy novel (151,812 words), and I'm content with the product and willing to let it go. So what do I do with it?

The end goal is to make some money, but I'm not trying to get the big bucks immediately or anything; I'm fine with starting slow. Do I go the Patreon route and turn it into a web serial (even though it's not a LitRPG), or do I cut the bullshit and go straight to publishing on Amazon? Or, do I start swarming literary agents' inboxes despite no personal connections?

>>11855223
I'm going to be buried in a Lannister coffin and there's nothing that you fags can do to stop me

>>11855223
Professional tip: reading Joyce and Sartre won't make you feel less bitter. Maybe even more.

>>11855223
>>11855297
This is why I only read high quality Christian literature.

>>11855257
If this is the first novel you've ever written, it's most likely terrible on the core level. Also, anything more than a hundred thousand words is most likely too long for a first-time author.

These factors in mind, you shouldn't publish it at all. Instead start writing a second novel: it will be better in every way, and will make you feel ashamed that you ever even thought that your first book could be shown to anyone.

If you've written several novels and you're legitimately sure it's not going to get any better than this - or if you'd just like to ignore my warnings - then Amazon self-publishing is probably the safe bet. Literary agents and publishers don't care about fantasy nowadays: they want woke YA and shit. And Patreon is of course for litRPG.

>>11855070
Horror fantasy definitely has a place here, but if you want to discuss realistic horror you should create a new thread.

>>11855163
Implying sci-fi isn’t screaching too

>women are better scouts than men because they're smaller

>>11855752
>halflings are sneakier than humans because they're smaller

>>11855257
also interested in this. I'm just starting out writing mine.

>>11855257
give us a few pages, lad

>women are better _____ than men because _____

>>11855810
>/pol/ issues should be talked about in ____ because ____

>>11855257
Do both.

Chop it up to use as a patreon web novel over the course of a year on royal road and then put the book up on amazon.

>>11855812
>redditors should go back to _____ because_____

>>11855810
women are better at nothing than men because they are inferior

>female protagonist
>constantly proving how much more capable she is over men, constantly making emasculating quips, is "in control of her sexuality", all the men around her just put up with it or kiss her ass

Can /pol/ and/or Reddit please leave?

>>11855856
>female author
>female protagonist
>love triangle
STOP THIS

>>11855854
They are better at crushing watermelons with their thighs.

>>11855861
>if I say and/or reddit they won't know I'm reddit

>>11855035
2 years is way too short for that sort of thing to happen. not to mention. in the west pretty much every piece of infrastructure is shielded against electro-magnetic interference. especially nuclear power plants and waterworks. youd be retarded to think people havent tried attacking these in real life before trying to disable them for whatever reason.
2 years for a medieval change is also way too short. try 50 or so without electricity or the internet. and even then most knowledge nowadays is in print so the level would probably fall to about the 1930s or so and not below that. because knowledge is so widespread and ingrained in society we cant just fall back to the dark ages like nothing has happened.

try reading al-ice it has a similar premise to what you just thought up.
if you really want to go with your story though you need to think up stuff and make it more logical.
despite what you may want to think, the best sci-fi stories are based in hard-science and logic. even the ones with omnipotent fleas that mindcontrol dogs into keeping an eye on the human race.

>>11855866
>better
*hotter

Why are there no good urban fantasy novels?

>>11855880
Urban fantasy is inherently bad

>>11855883
Why though?

>>11855889
because despite what the authors want you to think its all aimed at young adults and teens.

What fantasy tropes do you hate?

>>11855974
Female protagonists.

>>11855974
Elves, dwarves, orcs, and great big epic fantasy wars - unless done by Tolkien, who gets a pass on account of being the first.

>>11855974
Everything
>>11855985
This

>>11855974
Everyone uses swords in battle rather than polearms whilst carrying a sidearm

>>11855985
Very much this.

How do you guys feel about prophecies?

>>11854958
rate

>>11855974
Female archers

>>11856091
>>11856015
>>11855986
>>11855985
>>11855981
What protagonists do you guys like?

>>11856196
Underdogs taking on near-insurmountable odds - and triumphing, or at least putting up a good fight.

>>11856196
Ones that develop throughout the story

>>11856077
Where can I read The Illiad: A Space Opera?

>>11856077
bad/10
Catgirls would appear to be in the fist section

>>11856196
Fuzzy ones

>>11854958
>steerpike

Fact: no man has ever posted in sffg

>>11856196
Femboys

>>11856338
Bunnies?

>>11855974
None, there are no bad tropes, just badly done ones.

>>11855981
Why, because they are mythical creatures as far as your concerned anon?

Is the Gormenghast television series any good?

Are you excited for the new one with Neil Gaiman in charge?

>>11856422
Refer to >>11856356

>>11856445
A lot more excited for Good omens, Wot or even Witcher desu even though I like Peake.

Your favorite book released in the last 10 years?

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>>11855880
Night watch by sergei lukyanenko is great

>>11856490
One of the later Discworld novels.

There's been literally nothing else good in that time.

>>11855880
Dresden is great if you can get past the first 2-3 books.

>>11856496
reposting

Your favorite book from the last 10 years?

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>>11856510
>make great single pov book
>make sequel multipov
Why did he do it

>>11855880

This >>11856491
The magic system was quite good, but I found the plots seems meander and move around until suddenly it all snaps into place at the end. This is more pronounced in the later books, but the first book is definitely worth a read.

I like collections of short stories. Can anyone recommend me some preferably trashy as fuck sci-fi or fantasy. Just ordered Hammers Slammers, but I want gore and sex. Pic related.

>>11856522
The Straggler's Mask.

>>11856514
multi pov wasn't even the worst part, everything about the sequels was just so bad.

But I understand why he felt compelled to take it to multi pov, the way he ended the first book the protagonist had reached the zen stage, there was going to be no further character development and it would have been unbearable reading solely from his pov as well. It was just one of the many many mistakes he made, it was his first series after all.

His next series Draconis Memoria is better, doesn't quite hit the highs of Blood Song consistently but never gets as bad as the other books either.

He's also returning to Vaelin's story in his next series.

>>11856522
Harlan Ellison's collections are pretty good but probably not as trashy as what you're looking for.

>>11856532
>multi pov wasn't even the worst part,
It's the worst part of any book containing it

>>11856573
Yes, we heard you in the previous thread. You're still wrong.

>>11856580
Fuck you, you scumbag.

>>11856573
what kind of nonsense is this? what are your thoughts on big words, are they the worst too?

>>11856196
Vicious amoral self-obsessed assholes with enough skill and ability to back it up.

>>11856504
It's the other way around desu. Once he gets out of the detective work it all turns into a big gay fantasia.

>>11855974
Dark lordism

>tfw no fantasy with a /fit/ protagonist who has an equally /fit/ amazonian love interest
I mean I'm sure there's some cheap smut out there with that exact premise, but I want a decently written novel. If I wanted to fap I'd just look up the female:muscle tag on any of the various hentai sites.

>>11856631
Jorg?

>>11856667
Can't you just slap the monkey before you come here you disgusting weeb?

>>11856698
How does wanting a /fit/ male and female lead make a weeb? Because of the pic I used? It was the fastest example I could think of and pull up. Here's a non weeb image you fucking crybaby.

>>11856729
So you're not a weeb then?

>>11856729
How dare you respond to me weeb?

>>11856729
Finding muscular women is the part I'm having trouble with. Based on your initial image, you're looking for something very muscle girl-esque, which is a lot harder to find than the typical acrobat style body type.

I suppose you could just find a book where a man and women work together, then imagine them as muscular.

>>11856739
>>11856745
>crying about weebs on fucking 4chan
Go back

Best up and coming new authors and their works?

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Edgy, le wrong generation teenagers who are overcompensating and think there are no good books written after 1990 other than botns and discoworld need not bother answering. I already know you have no taste.

>>11856667
>>11856729
Just write your own. Be like that one anon here who keeps shilling his furry book.

Best up and coming new authors and their works?

pic related

Edgy, le wrong generation teenagers who are overcompensating and think there are no good books post 1990 need not bother answering. I already know you have no taste.

>>11856766
You were told to leave not throw a hissy fit.

>>11856780
Fuck no. He would probably start posting roided bunny girls or something, like the weeb he is.
All the bad taste and writing here and the only person who has published anything in this general is some annoying furry. I was expecting at least one twelve nook litRPG saga or something, give the shit being discussed here.

>>11856788
>The republic faces annihilation, despite the vigilance of Galharrow's Blackwings. When a raven tattoo rips itself from his arm to deliver a desperate message, Galharrow and a mysterious noblewoman must investigate a long dead sorcerer's legacy. But there is a conspiracy within the citadel: traitors, flesh-eaters and the ghosts of the wastelands seek to destroy them, but if they cannot solve the ancient wizard's paradox, the Deep Kings will walk the earth again, and all will be lost.

As edgy as that shit? I doubt that.

>>11856788
>You think you know Misery? You've seen nothing yet...

>>11856676
They have to be in a well written series.

>>11856794
>All the bad taste and writing here and the only person who has published anything in this general is some annoying furry.
And you've just been told you could fix that and also write something of your own. Are you going to back away from the challenge? Are you just going to keep on whining here about what shit writer I am, and about how no one caters to your own tastes, without actually doing anything about it? What are you, a chicken?

>>11856823
I am sure you get this a lot but it bears repeating - please stop talking to me.

>>11856196
Don't know. Rand, Perrin and Mat are the worst 3 I've ever came across though.

>>11856828
Baaaawk buck-buck-buck!

You called me out yourself, you can't back out now.

>>11856794
You're the who throws a hissy fit every single thread crying about "waaaaaah the weebs are attacking".

>>11856828

Let's talk about waifus. For me it's Fiona.

>>11856853
They're all equally bad.

Don't have a waifu. Have a life.

>>11856853
No

>>11856838
Weebs and losers like >>11856853.

>>11856828
Write your own muscle fantasy or stop complaining.

>yes

>>11856863
No I think I'll keep making fun of you and your ilk.

>>11856858
>>11856862
Both of you are single.

>>11856867
Dumb chickenposter.

Another thread derailed by weebs and autists.

>I'm shocked

>>11856863
There's some confusion going on. I'm the anon who brought up the muscle girls, not this assblasted anon >>11856794 obsessed with weebs for some reason.

>>11856879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtwJvgPJ9xw

>>11856880
Then why did you reply to me? I was talking to the assblasted anon, not you... if you really are the different guy.

>>11855974
Making every story a world saving epic because the reader expects it

Why does this general even exist anymore?

>>11856893
So that the weebs, the autists, and the furries wouldn't be let loose to the unsuspecting board at large.

>>11856893
Waiting for Winds of Winter

>>11856887
Dumb bunny poster.

>>11856900
literally nobody here other than you cares about that shit.

>>11856905
Do answer the question. You basically threw yourself right in the middle of the shit and then get all confused when someone addresses you.

Are you brain-damaged or something?

>>11856914
>I'm the only person on /sffg/ with good taste
Feels good man

>>11856919
ASOIAF hasn't exactly been the epitome of good taste since book three, if ever.

>>11856900
I hope the old cunt dies and you're cursed with Sanderson finishing the series. I would bathe for days in all the salty tears.

>>11856923
Still a lot better than whatever Sanderson shits out .

Bunnyman, though I much prefer your recent musclebunny posts to those of the thotsperg, they will probably get you banned. Here is an author eating his cat.

>>11856930
>the shit i like is still better than that worse stinky shit over there

>>11856928
Kay would finish it and make it good

>>11856930
"less shit" would be a better way of putting it. I'd rather we spoke of neither.

>>11856936
Oh no no no anon.
Sanderson is shit. GRRRRRM is actually good.

>>11856917
Not me again. I have no beef with you man.

>>11856932
I've been trying to cut back on avatarfagging anyway. I only came out with it now to annoy the musclefag.

Probably worth a couple days in the cooler if that happens.

>>11856944
They're both shit but I'll admit GRRM is much less shit, if only he had good prose he'd certainly be far more readable.

>>11856943
But we can't anon, can we?
We are forever cursed to watch others post crap like >>11856788.

Anyone want to talk about actual books? Because I finished Titus Groan just today.

It was pretty great. Slow boil, but picked up a lot as it went. Gives even Tolkien run for his money prose-wise.

GRRM is only hated here because he's popular.

>>11856970
You have to distance yourself from the plebs somehow anon.

>>11856961
We can't discuss what a cad steerpike is until the deadline tho

>>11856959
Blackwing is decent though, got a lot of malazan-esque vibes from it. I read a lot of grim dark and blackwing is certainly one of the better ones.

>>11856991
>got a lot of malazan-esque vibes from it
That is the absolute worst thing you can say about a book.

>>11857002
>got a lot of kingkiller-esque vibes from it

>>11857008
>got a lot of kingkiller-esque vibes from it
That's the 2nd worst think you can say about a book.
In fact don't ever try to compare it to the any kind of 12 book shitshows.

>>11857002
There are a lot of objectively bad books out there, Malazan sure as shit ain't one of them. You're just one dumbass among many here that doesn't understand you not liking a book doesn't make it terrible.

>>11857025
>There are a lot of objectively bad books out there, Malazan sure as shit ain't one of them.
It is tho. It's terribly written, long-winded, and stupid as all fuck.

If Malazan isn't objectively bad, then neither is Eragon.

>>11857032
You forgot to mention it's also multiple POV

>>11857036
>You forgot to mention it's also multiple POV

everything makes sense now.

>>11855335
>The worst world building fantasy LARPer is always the one with the superiority complex

>>11857025
>Malazan sure as shit ain't one of them
Oh yes it is. In it's long and storied history that baddly written transcript of a GURPS (ugh) campaign has probably accumulated every wrong thing a writer can do.

>>11857032
>It is tho. It's terribly written, long-winded, and stupid as all fuck.

Someone is mad they were forced to pay attention to more than one character and the writer didn't hold their hand through the story with infodumps.

>>11857063
Please, I'm halfway through Titus Groan. You don't know shit about multiple characters or lack of infodumps.

>>11857071
Look out lads, the man has started reading Peake.

>>11857122
I bet you didn't get past page ten.

>>11857122
Right on anon. Gormenghast doesn't even have talking dinos with blades for arms and characters taken straight from some chunni anime.

>>11855880
If you don't mind female protagonists most of the best Urban Fantasy is written by women.

The Hollows series.
Jane Yellowrock books.
Kate Daniels books.

>>11855752
>tfw you read a fantasy book and not a single female warrior shows up
So refreshing.

>>11855880
Dresden Files is fine as far as urban fantasy goes. But urban fantasy itself is pretty cringe.

>>11857167
>>11855880
The Rook is great if (trigger alert) you can tolerate a female protagonist which I know is hard for a lot of the incels here

>>11857183
The Rook is excellent but is it really UF?

Anyone recommend this series if all I want is niggaz in powered armor or mechs fucking shit up?

>>11857193
uh, whaddya mean mate? It takes place in modern day London.

>>11857200
Just because it's set in the modern era doesn't automatically make it UF. I not completely disagreeing that it could be classed as UF but it doesn't fit the same tropes as others in the genre. It's a very different world setup.

>>11855070
>>11855078

What's stopping you? Most horror, the best ones at least, qualifies as fantasy. A lot of the New Weird authors are horror writers, even though Miéville is the only one constantly mentioned. If it doesn't, I can't imagine a good discussion spawning here.

>>11857183
"The book follows a young woman in her thirties who wakes up in a park surrounded by bodies wearing latex gloves. She's unable to remember anything about herself or how she or the bodies got there, and her only clue is a letter in her coat pocket that says, "To You". Inside is a letter that tells her the body previously belonged to Myfanwy Thomas, who worked in a secret government organization and was targeted by an unknown assassin. The letter offers the young woman (who is thereafter identified in the book as Myfanwy, although she sees herself as a separate person, considering her 'original' self as Thomas) a choice of taking up the life of the woman before her and discovering the identity of the would-be killer, or setting out with a new identity."

Sooooo Myfanwy is a magical tranny?

>>11857199
Is this any good anon?
Please don't lie to me.

>>11857219
> a tranny
How you got that from the description I have no idea.

>>11856820
name a series that fulfills this requirement. I also like edgy protags. I wouldn't say kelhus counts as that because hes not really self obsessed but I loved reading Bakker partly because he was so amoral.

>>11857230
Some dude named Thomas in a young woman's body?
How can you be so obtuse I have no idea.

>>11856729
>weeb image
Stop posting, retard.

>>11857241
> Myfanwy Thomas
If you don't understand that Thomas is her surname I can't help you.

>>11856510
god this book was comfy. I just pretend its a standalone and it mostly works better.

>>11857219
The blurb is a little misleading, it's about a woman who has her brain fucked with and in the process loses her memories and emerges from it with a different personality to her pre amnesia self.

>>11857210
Any fantasy set in contemporary, real-world, urban settings is urban fantasy in my book and The Rook fits that criteria to a tee.

>>11856522
spiders bite is complete schlock trash that Ive never seen anyone mention. Kind of comfy though

>>11857228
Well it has almost nothing but good reviews on Amazon and the first book won a Dragon Award; which is an infinitely better mark of quality than a Hugo.

>>11857263
>falling for Amazon reviews in 2018

>>11856504
>>11857167

>>11857156
Which one? I need a break.

>>11857289
Deed of Paksenarrion

>>11857289
The Straggler's Mask

>>11857297

>>11857263
>The Dragon Awards have been criticized in Science-Fiction and fantasy fandom because of the appearance that the awards were created in conjunction with campaigns by the Rabid and Sad Puppies to attack the Hugo Award, giving the impression that Dragon Con as a convention is itself aligned with these campaigns.
I see.

>>11857263
Picked up.

>>11857250
Dropped.

>>11857254
Thank you anon. I just read the wiki page.

>>11857297

>>11857254
In urban fantasy isn't all the mythical creatures, witchcraft etc part of the normal world? It's just another part of human life. That's not true in the Rook books.

>>11857306
See? Dragon Awards works the bugmen into a shoot.

>>11857284
Name one, just ONE UF better than Dresden you little shit.
That's right you can't.

>>11857352
Bartimaeus.

>>11857356
Not urban fantasy and also YA(although its very good YA)

>>11857356
I was actually gonna make fun of you, thought you were gonna say illona andrews or kate elliot or some shit but ya Bartimaeus is pretty dope. Did you read Ring of Solomon?/

>>11857345
Not necessarily. There are plenty of UF books where the magic is hidden from normal people, Dresden Files for example.

>>11856961
>actual books
Take your dinos and leave please

>>11857407
Of course yes the meme anon, but it is the selected reading this month.

>>11857412
>Following op

Found the annoying git that sits at the front of the class and has his hand up all the time.

>>11857416
Not op, the monthly reading thing. I don't think monthly reading anon has posted the reminder yet this thread.

>>11857293
I'll fight you.

>>11856598
No. I like big words. What are you even getting at?

>>11857427
Does a strong independent warrior woman make you feel insecure anon?

>>11857434
I mean female warriors aside, the stories are just badly written.

Try this instead.

>>11857433
I don't fucking know, what do you have against multiple povs? I get that someone can prefer single pov's but why tf would you say multiple povs are the worst part of any book that has them?

Japs do fantasy and sci-fi better.

>>11857434
>warrior woman
>strong
Choose carefully

>>11857445
found the incel

>>11857444
They do everything better don't they?

>>11857444
They certainly do have the most experience living in an alternate setting after theirs got btfo

>>11857448
Can you please not do that?
We really don't have to stoop to the level of /v or /tv.

>>11857444
They are just refined Sandersons. They cannot write character to save their overly-long lives

>>11857454
Why not? We're already on the level of /pol/ and /r9k/, not much lower down we can go.

>>11857454
oh anon, we're way past all that. Did you miss the weebs, furries and musclefags going at each other like cats and dogs earlier?

>>11856667
>tfw no fantasy with a femboy protagonist and tiny sissy clitty and huge daddy bf
I mean I'm sure there's some cheap smut out there with that exact premise, but I want a decently written novel. If I wanted to fap I'd just look up the male:feminization tag on any of the various hentai sites.

>>11857458
No we are not. Far from it.
Just because some anon is making fun of your strong independent woman in full plate is not the end of the world.

>>11857460
Yeah that's pretty bad. It would be nice if there was less of shit like that and >>11857467.

>>11856667
>>11857467
Oh boy here's the retard come to derail the thread again with his disgusting weeb shenanigans.

>>11857479
Don't pretend you weren't one of the autists fighting earlier. You're basically still going at it.

>>11857480
I was making fun of him

>space marine in a super-powered mech with female AI trapped on Cthulhu's home planet battling Lovecraftian horrors while trying to find a way off the planet while also slowly going insane
Would you read it?

>>11857484
Only if the whole insanity thing is mutual, and all the little Cthulhus are also going mad at the sight of this tiny ugly pink horror.

>>11857443
Because it takes lie out of the story every time the story every time the perspective shifts. Like I have to rebuild my immersion every 5 minutes

>>11857484
No.

>>11857481
No I am not.

>>11857492
>No.
Yes you would.

>>11857484
Sounds like halo

>>11857492
>No I am not.
Well you are now, avatarfag.

>>11857500
Halo is gay though. My story would be the opposite of gay.

>>11857506
Lesbian? We don't like women 'round these parts.

>>11857499
No. The premise is the definition of generic.

>>11857501
No I am not.

>>11857512
>The premise is the definition of generic.
Then please list the books that have the same exact premise.

>>11857508
only because they don't even look at us. so we pretend they're the inferior sex.

>>11857508
Sffg is for women only, newfag. Men don't read.

>>11857522
just stop with the tired old memes you stupid faggot, nobody cares.

>>11857517
Doom.

*tugs braid*
*stretches legs*
*smooths dress*
*shats water*

>>11857534
That's not a book. And there's no mech. And no AI. And he wasn't slowly going insane.

>>11857537
wot made you hate life anon? we've all been there, take a break, you deserve it.

>>11857532
It's not a meme and I'm tramping you sincerely, if you're a man you have no business here. Fuck off. Go away.

>>11857537
*flops ears*

>>11857549
Stop talking to me you unoriginal shitstain.

>>11857517
Some dude in a power armor/mecha fighting Lovecraftian abominations? Oh and a cute AI?
That's probably like half the Amazon chump.
And let's face it - you can't write cosmic horror for shit so it's just tentacled aliens.

>>11857567
Please list the books that have the same exact premise.

>>11857582
Anon I am not doing your research for you. Go steal ideas for yourself. It's not like you have any to begin with.

>>11857585
lol so you can't list a single book with the same exact premise?

>>11857587
I am sorry anon but I can't write this for you.

>>11857566
Leave

>>11857467
>tfw minus8 really does look like that

Fantasy/Sci-Fi really does need more catgirls.

>>11857640
No what it needs is for you to fuck off.

>>11857280
but the author paid for those indian sweatshop workers to leave so many reviews!

>>11857601
>claim my premise was generic
>can't list a single book
Anon, I forgive you for your idiocy. I just hope that someday you can forgive yourself.

>>11857653
What it needs is for you to stop taking the bait.

>>11857670
Oh so you were just pretending to be retarded?
You got me good anon.

>>11857640
Yes anon, you know I agree, but I think this image is rather outside the bounds of our group discussion. Find a good catgirl book to read and post the cover. It will be appreciated.

>>11857666
Good luck anon.
You are going to need it.

>>11857666
I do not fall to your wiles, Satan.

Anyone know any other books that have an emphasis on family politics?

>>11857698
A Song of Ice and Fire.

>>11857698
sounds like degeneracy

Anyone here read Murderbot Diaries? Thoughts?

>>11857738
I read the first book (or novelette going by the page count).
It's okay. Nothing groundbreaking but nicely written.

>>11857738
I read the first one and thought it was pretty good for a short story, far less twee than the blurb would suggest.

>>11857699
Thanks Sherlock

>>11857653
Stop being so upset, it's not that serious

I just realized how badly the basic premise of my story breaks suspension of disbelief.

Am I fucked?

>>11857761
No.

Start a new story, do better the next time.

>>11857753
Are you still pretending to be retarded or ...?
Just so I know how to respond.

>>11857761
that's not sufficient info to say anything anon. Pretty much everything in scifi and fantasy requires suspension of disbelief to an extent, it would be helpful if you told us a little more about your premise before we can tell you if it's stupid or not.

>>11857640
Almost every amazon book has a catgirl in it.

Has anyone read Fatemarked? Author looks like a gigantic chad.

>>11857853
>In the spirit of fantasy epics like Throne of Glass and The Lord of the Rings
>Throne of Glass
Bet this cunt didn't even graduate magna cum loudly

>>11857773
I'm not even that anon

>>11855880
I heard this was good. Read it then come back here and let me know if it really is

>>11857306
Guess I'll have to pay attention to the Dragon Awards now

>>11857071
>>11857133
It’s kind of embarrassing how good a reader you think you are, come back after you read a real book like finnegans wake you pleb

>>11857776
the premise is that back in the early 20th century there was a well known legend in the culinary business about a fat old chinaman who would wander from restaurant to restaurant offering to work one night in exchange for a meal.

It's said that any restaurant that accepted him would feel something magical happen that night, although none could ever say what he did. The food the kitchen churned out would be a religious experience for cook and customer alike, the kind of thing that inspired men to quit their 9-to-5 jobs, or women to divorce their husbands and take a cruise to monte carlo.

The legend is well-known enough among gourmands that most would recognize the wooden token he leaves outside the restaurants he spends the night at even if they've never seen it in person, and well-to-do diners will often try to hire him to prepare a meal for them

god, I was actually on the fence about this when I started this post but after writing that last paragraph I kind of want to drown myself in the bathtub for thinking this was a good idea

>>11857901
Is this one of theirs the Greek/Roman/insert ancient culture gods and mythology lives among us currently novels? Because if it is I’ll kick you in the dick

>>11857738
Read two. It was alright. I liked how almost every character, main character included, is very incompetent in some way.

>>11857937
First paragraph sounded interesting, everything after that should make you feel ashamed

Give me a rec please, your best.

>No YA, romance or urban fantasy

>No classics, has to be from this millennium. Not that I don't like classics but I've either read them or passed them over so I'm looking for something newer.

>Nothing too popular for same reason. I've either already read it or passed it over if it's really popular.

>Don't want Kay.

>pic related, it's something I liked.

>>11857976
I can’t help someone with bad taste.

>>11857968
it does anon, and I'm legitimately sitting here thinking why the hell I ever thought it was a good idea, and why I kept thinking that for months after I came up with it.

I'm wondering if there's a way I can fix it by just getting rid of the legend around him or just making it obscure and justifying the rest some other way

>that last chapter
I almost think it would be better off without it, there's enough setup that you could extrapolate some mind fuckery from the detective without Alfred giving us every little detail in a final chapter sprint.
The confusion on the guys face about how we use to kill criminals was pretty cool though all things considered

>>11858003
>haha, he likes something popular, get him!

Kill yourself you worthless fucking faggot.

>>11858033
>t. seething

>>11858003
>he says in the science fiction and fantasy thread

>>11857698
I started this last night, what am I in for?

>>11858071
Fun

>>11857938
I haven't read it
>>11857878
Did Tolkein?

>>11857853
>>11857878
Is the books blurb talking about this Throne of Glass or am I missing some other Throne of Glass?

There's no fucking way that someone wrote a blurb that said "epics like Lord of the Rings and (<<-- this) Throne of Glass" right?

I would burn that book on principle if I ever saw a copy if that's the case.

>TIME documented the phenomenon in 1966, declaring that hobbits were the new literary heroes on American college campuses. “[The] Rings trilogy was first published in the U.S. twelve years ago, had a small but dedicated coterie of admirers, including Poet W. H. Auden and Critic C. S. Lewis, but languished largely unread until it was reprinted last year in two paperback editions,” the story explained. “Since then, campus booksellers have been hard put to keep up with the demand. At the Princeton bookstore, says one salesman, it is the ‘biggest seller since Lord of the Flies.'”

>Why was it such a hit, besides the more accessible paperback format? Though Tolkien said he hadn’t intended any sort of message for modern readers, the students to whom TIME spoke said that they appreciated the chance to escape from the complicated world of the 1960s to one where you could “cheer the hero and boo the villain.” It was a perfect match between a generation and the precise breed of escapism it demanded.

>>11858225
>complicated world of the 1960s

>>11858215
I hope it is, it's hilarious in a way.

>>11857749
what else did you expect?

>>11856667
The Conan story Red Nails kinda has that

>>11856914
yeah...no.

>>11856950
You've done a shitty job on cutting back, none of us have noticed you doing so....

>>11857937
is this idea really that bad? now that my overreaction is cooling down it feels like it could work if I clean it up a little bit

>>11858235
The 1960s seemed about as complicated as today. Same racial and political tensions, same changing lifestyles, same boom of counterculture movements and counter-counterculture movements. The conflicted fear of doing anything in a world that might not even be here next year

>>11856970
No, he's hated because he betrayed his readers.

>>11857183
You're saying Chad reads female protags left and right?

>>11857407
The meme is older than the book

>>11857450
that ain't yoko

>>11857937
>>11858500
take out the part about the legend & token. focus on just one night. main/secondary characters should be the diners with character arcs because the chinese guy doesn't change. also don't make him chinese because the wise foreigner is cliche af. then you might have a chance at making it decent.

>>11857738
I read 1 and 2. They're good.

>>11858619
Okay though, quick clarification: this is just the legend that sets up the story.

The real story focuses on the chef's grandaughter and a boy who becomes his apprentice along the way. The plot is that after many years in exile from his home country, the chef is returning to his home country to die, and bringing his granddaughter with him so he can give her the guidance he was never able to before because he was on the run.

However, on the way they found a boy who had become an inadvertent stowaway. Since the chef is trying to teach his granddaughter good values he ends up watching over him and discover that the boy wants to learn how to cook and is a good influence on his grandaughter. As a result, they get tangled up in each other's business and the boy becomes the chef's final apprentice.

However, it's not all feel-good moments. The chef was exiled from his home country for leading protests against the crown for using the colony's own food supplies as a weapon against its people. An agent has been keeping tabs on him ever since, and when he sees that the old man is trying to sneak back into the country he starts to suspect that trouble is brewing

>>11858734
Literally delete all of that garbage

>>11858760
done

>>11857450
idgi. what happened to the picture?

>>11858771
I remember this premise being posted quite some time ago. Just keep at it anon. Any time spent writing is well spent, whatever the result.

>>11858734
well anon, i don't think it's garbage as the other poster said but i'm not seeing a strong narrative drive. do you know a lot about cooking?

The last man of a race, born at the end of a civil war between men and women of a distant planet; is the main protagonist of this story, in one where the feelings of the next wars and love are the direct focus in the book.
Reborn after an assassination attempt, it is also the last hope left against a feminist empire that was falling to pieces.
Withdraw the ancient glory of its race? Or will he only fall into the eternal suffering that overwhelms him every day?
Translate literally from Spanish (my main language) using Translate Google
It's my book sypnosis, finished complety in Spanish, i can't traduce a 68 page book (printer style) with my amateur skills (only i can understand English, not write it)
So... it's a good premise?

>>11858838
Is it light hearted/comedy?

Just finished listening to the Eragon audiobooks at work today. They're nothing special, but I liked them. World building is my jam.
Need something new to listen to while I pretend to work.

>>11858855
No, it's a deep-emocional action drama.
Wait, you're serious?

>>11858857
Chronicles of Amber.

>>11858771
If it makes you feel better it isn’t actually garbage. I just think you’re trying for too much to fit into one story. Like you had a good strong interesting premise

>>11858870
yes

>>11857492
how are white girls getting so thicc these days?

move, herd

>>11859544
>>11859544
>>11859544