/lit/ - Literature

lucifer = puritans/reformists (demonized)
god = king

>>11852223
For the last fucking time:
Lucifer was meant to seem somewhat appealing in the beginning of Paradise Lost because he had JUST been cast out of heaven, and therefore still bore much of that divine radiance ALONG WITH the outstanding, heavenly charisma that caused so many angels to rebel along with him. He is enticing, he is tragic, he is still somewhat the greatest Archangel.
HOWEVER, as the poem progresses, that radiant eminence fades and Lucifer's corruption becomes more and more complete, his personality more and more earthly (the realm which he is to rule) and he develops into the hideous devil that Humanity came to know him to be.
So his character is a DEVELOPMENT from the vertex to the void.

>>11852239
Thak YOU for your CLEAR explanation

>>11852239

what if I still want to fuck him by the end

>>11852223
>Was Lucifer intended to be sympathized with or instead be seen as a great deceiver?
Why not both? Good writing should vindicate all the characters.

The reason Lucifer is so sympathic because he's interesting, especially compared to the other divine dullards in the poem. Jesus is the limpest of all.

(BTW I totally LMFAO'd at the spectacle of ass-kicking General Jesus leading the charge ahead of Michael ... Christian logic at its finiest.)

>tfw Milton was a virgin until he married at 30
We're all going to make it

>>11852723
>We

>>11852723
Lmao christfags are so pathetic.

>>11852310
That's natural

>>11852310
that's kinda gay

>>11852742
>>11852765
Why are you normies even here?
Do you just come to insult people who really only have literature in their lives?

Please fuck off to Instagram or Facebook, or any other normie website. This one isn’t for you

>>11852781
>everyone on 4chan is a virgin
It wasn't true in 2007 and it sure as Hell isn't true now.

>>11852239
that sounds like some movie trop

>that character who falls out of the sky and everybody loves him but eventually turns into an egomaniac and his followers start to turn on him

>>11852787
t.a virgin

>>11852765
It was by choice you dummy.
He even got suspended from school for a year after calling out the clergy as brothel visiting, hard drinking, hypocrites.

>>11852223
I actually ordered Paradise Lost earlier this week. Some Oxford World Classics version, it said "modernized text" which worried me a bit since it can mean a lot of different things, but it was only like £3 and shipping was free since I ordered a bunch of other shit with it.

>>11852826
modernized text means Sion will be changed to Zion, etc.

>>11852826
It just means modern spelling. There was no standardisation of spelling in Milton's time.

>>11852861
That's good. I was afraid they'd started changing archaic words here and there, which does happen, however horrible it is.

>>11852781
You take 4chan memes way too seriously, my unfuckable fat friend.

>>11852781
R9k is that a-way.

>>11852239
Thank you anon. We brainlets appreciate the quality content.
>>11852797
> biblical allegory of mans decline as sin separates them further from God
>Just a movie trope
The contrarianism is strong
>>11852781
Well we are 4chan cause we are still depressed and lazy despite sex. I guess we read because literature, particularly poetry, becomes even more enjoyable once you can relate the content to actual experiences. Milton was so anxious about his virginity that he thought his work would be shit until he lost his V card. Poetry he argued is by its nature sensuous, so producing it needs to be more than just imagining alien experiences or indulging in wish fulfillment.
You know you could always go to wizard chan if you need a safe space. Despite the pol brigades, there is some decent discussion here and normies are all so dull. We are here because we are crazy not because some girl did touch our pee pee.

>>11852765
dude sex is like cool yeah xD

The fall of Iblis/Satan in the Islamic tradition is out of Pride and he refuses to submit unto Man who God created in his own image.

Some more heretical traditions still maintain, that Iblis/Satan/Lucifer was the only true Muslim, and he viewed the command of God as a test, for Iblis would only prostate before God. And thus on the judgement day he will be the first one redeemed being the only loyal servant of God.

>>11854201
>Well we are 4chan cause we are still depressed and lazy despite sex.
Is this the royal "we?"

>>11855293
Maybe 'we' refers to the voices in his head.