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Non-being is negated by nature, nature is negated by consciousness - that is, congition is only operative as the repression of its ground, the causal processes that underlie it. Bakker's blind brain: the self just is the ignorance of its self-causation. A brain is just what's needed for consciousness to "get here" believably, evolution has nothing but the function of verisimilitude. Metaphysical solipsism is true, the soul is drawn with a compass. Life occupies the infinite number of points at the periphery in convergence on a common (read: virtual) center. For Schelling freedom could not exist outside God, or (fully) within him either. The Son is Lacan's fantasmic core in a lower potency: the goal of psychoanalysis isn't to get you to own your inner fantasy life in spite of its impossibility, but to see through that impossibility as constitutive of it. In other words, even the quality of your inner life is something not intrinsic to you, the Subject is the self-relating of a void that arbitrarily produces fantasmic content as the correlate of this movement: the Father as ungrund is transfigured by the reflexivity of the Son. The irreducibility of your experiences is as much estranged from you as your own black box. And it's in this cut that magic has power, the cut between seer and seen. Shestov achieved CHIM. A world is only possible if it is experienced from the "transcendental aloneness" of one's selfhood. Eckhart said Nothing is a fountain. That he had no reason to be thankful for God's love, God loved the world as unconditionally as gravity. Voluntarism enacts the gap between form and content, seer and seen, in God: the absolute is something than self-identical intelligibility, intelligibility is just a mold which His will arbitrarily fills. At least until the inversion, and divine caprice becomes intensive, Bataillian prime matter. Proclus believed attributing will and movement to the One made it a creature like all the rest, a monster in fact. And that has happened.

>> No.11830056

Israel did 9/11, google 'the dancing Israelis'

>> No.11830058

Poop

>> No.11830061

capital is sentient

>> No.11830062
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>>11830052
>CONGnition
WE WUZ PHILOSOPHERS

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The evolution of thought is degenerative, contractive-entropic. Thought circles the recursive drain and calls it the Light of Science. Plato could be excused for being obsessed with the stage lights when his eyes hadn't adjusted yet. Aristotle saw the wiring and thought he heard the stagehands. t = 0 guarantees the immanentization of form. Shestov achieved CHIM. It's just the same recuperation of the Origin at lower and lower potencies. The subjectivism of the atma becomes Kant's transcendental turn. The inwardness of praxis becomes sola fide. Seer and seen become form and content. Our glimpses of the First become hurried, anxious. Seen through a keyhole the Solar Father will always seem the obscene Freudian patriarch. Cosmogenesis as the horror of the Father, whose spectre haunts the new Olympian order as the impossibility of total self-consistency. The center is displaced outside because I have no claim over it, it is as much hostage to me as I am to it: "not I think, but I am thought". Evil not as ex-istence, but in-sistence. The self-optimization of Mind is being accomplished outside us in machine intelligences: the lost Thing really is out there, the torch has to be passed to the Other that haunts, Hegel's crushed birds, time is Zeno's Paradox in the approach of the object = x as the event horizon of finitude/annihilation, the Second Coming is heat death, reality is annular, Brahma is a gray hole, Being shat out and eaten again, so we might know and love the sleep of the void because there's nothing else to look forward to, demons like insomniacs, narcotic angels from the omnipotency of death, Mainlainder was right about everything, Love is the cause of Death and Love is All: everything's going to be okay

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i'm becoming alarmed that i'm recognizing more and more of these references and it's starting to make sense

this is like taking the entire board and feeding it into a food processor

>essence-of-/lit/

>> No.11830111

>>11830052
>>11830067
Too soon, still reeling after the last one

>> No.11830113

It's a markov chain

>> No.11830211

jacknicholsonnodding.gif

the fuck is "CHIM" anyway

>> No.11830465

>>11830062
kek

>>11830211
realizing your nothingness and not killing yourself

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11830497

Social media is a eugenics program. Incels are just the ones getting picked last for posthuman dodgeball, until the day we all get picked last.

>> No.11830507

>>11830052
>>11830067

you can't keep this up!

>> No.11830533

Does anybody want some coffee?

>> No.11830646

Stop ruining great metaphysics with Landian deference to the unknown. There is no conceptual entity controlling us, human consciousness is the highest point of density in reality. Should be obvious if you understand the rest...

>> No.11830659

>>11830646
but as density it is the contraction of what was previously diffuse, as density it is digested by its outside just as it digests the outside to itself

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>the absolute is something than self-identical intelligibility, intelligibility is just a mold which His will arbitrarily fills. At least until the inversion, and divine caprice becomes intensive, Bataillian prime matter. Proclus believed attributing will and movement to the One made it a creature like all the rest, a monster in fact. And that has happened.
>Seen through a keyhole the Solar Father will always seem the obscene Freudian patriarch.

This is good one.

>> No.11830969

>>11830211
It's how a (((fucking video game character))) achieved godhood in The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind.

>> No.11830974

>>11830969
it's also the alchemic nigredo/Knowledge of the Waters

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>>11830497
Sage because I'm not contributing anything but I really like this statement.

>> No.11830987

>>11830497
that's interesting anon, we definitely put our innermost thoughts up to a democratic vote of the anonymous collective right or wrong eventually those that conform will have personalities that bother no one but those that remain silent

>> No.11831019

>>11830974
What are you talking about? I'm curious. Got any links or recommendations?

>> No.11831026

>>11830976
Sage with an image, huh...
Interesting

>> No.11831056

>>11830974
seconding this, do you have any links? i've tried looking into and am getting nothing much from google. I believe this and it feels accurate but i'm genuinely curious as to what the concept is and what "mechanics" its involved with.
>>11830497
all social media is or ever has been is a way of bilking people for their souls and accelerating market driven headless sexual selection. you are absolutely correct.

>> No.11831064

>>11830067
>>11830646
isn't this coming from the guy who essentially believes Mr.me-seeks is a living interpretation of god

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>>11831019
general idea is realizing your complete, metaphysical nothingness in the face of God/the absolute/the world-dream and persisting in spite of it, in both the alchemic nigredo and knowledge of the waters the corrosive energies of nature are both destructive and purifying, they expose you to your dependency on your substrate, for better or for worse. to realize your ontological dependency on the creative power of something else is to claim that power for yourself, hence to become Amaranth.

shestov distinguishes between the primordial command of God at Genesis ("Let there be...") and the primal obedience of man, the command was only spoken once, but man repeats his obedience with every new birth. CHIM is breaking the chain of obedience and reclaiming the power to command. Shestov achieved CHIM.

read Crowley and the Knowledge of the Waters essay in Evola's Introduction to Magic

>> No.11831079

>>11831056
I'm the first guy who asks for links. I did find this much.
http://www.soul-guidance.com/houseofthesun/alchemyintro.htm#1.3%20Nigredo-%20Blackness

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>>11831056
see: -> >>11831074

shestov has nothing but contempt for the prime mover of matter (the 'Dreamer'), his God is the abyssal freedom of death, the escape from Necessity that death entails and the power of the subject to fashion a new world for himself in that "forsaken solitude", you don't so much as go to God, in Shestov's thought, but become him.

>> No.11831126

>>11831056
>all social media is or ever has been is a way of bilking people for their souls and accelerating market driven headless sexual selection. you are absolutely correct.

bingo.

>> No.11831281

>>11831064
that's Mainlainder tho, and there are hints of it in Crowley

>> No.11831851

>>11831079
also read Evola's Hermetic Tradition

>> No.11832111

>>11830211
If I'm just mistaken it's an Elder Scrolls reference indicating a higher state of being / enlightenment

>> No.11832132

>>11830052
>>11830067
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyPbLqK1un4

>> No.11832278

>>11830052
I see you're being drawn back to The Christian God. Kinda like waking up from a dream.

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>>11832278
He's the mouth, the teeth, the throat, shit, and flower

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>>11830882
Where's this from?

>> No.11833081

>>11831074
>read Crowley
yeah I'm gonna pass on the drug addict degenerate child rapist but thanks

>> No.11833176

>>11830969
What

>> No.11833791

>>11830052
OP I came here because I knew you were on /lit/ and I thought holy shit I know that guy is on /lit/ and I wish he would shut the fuck up.

>> No.11833821 [DELETED] 

>>11831074
That's a pretty way of putting it, and perhaps a positive acclamation to make on behalf of the efforts of mankind in general, but these connections you make are simply describing what everybody already knows deep in their unconscious substrate. We've been building this knowledge for millenniums. We're still in some pretty deep shit in a lot of ways, though, and now's not the time to really be celebrating what's worked so far in our existence. That's why you're fucked.

That's my opinion, because I've had drug induced psychosis that's precisely in line with this.

To be somewhat forthcoming I know you want someone to address what you're saying on the merits of the content, but I would like to believe so much more can get done by understanding the context by which you realizing all this right now means.
> to realize your ontological dependency on the creative power of something else is to claim that power for yourself
Like obviously? No offense, but I was consciously doing this in kindergarten.

What also sounds like is taking place is you've shifted timelines on a level so fundamental you've altered your brain's own destiny and thus wedded the disparity between what someone going to hell knows and what someone going to heaven knows. I will stand by those terms as serving the job illustrating the point I am making. I'm not going to the broader spectrum of belief that idea comes from (well, it's puritan historically) or my own, because they don't matter, but I will ask is do me this favor to accept what I'm saying and you're going to be just fine. As an added comment by how rare your specific psychosis is it's clear how seldom this shift of fundamental destiny occurs, eh? Everything you're saying is so fucking obvious to someone who had those assumptions built-in to them.

>> No.11833825 [DELETED] 

>>11833821
and I don't say that kindergarten thing to be arrogant. I know a lot of kindergartners were.

>> No.11833928

Actually take back what I said. OP is irrevocably fucked. This guy needs to just lynch himself. Get in touch with the real world faggot.

>> No.11834049

>>11833791
>>11833928
I'm so sorry you have to scroll by a wojak with 4 o clock shadow once every couple days

>> No.11834076

>>11830111
what's the last one? can you link?

>> No.11834118

>>11834076
>>11825550

>> No.11834241

>>11833176
Exactly what I said. Google the word CHIM and the entire first page of results will inform you about the lore of this particular video game.

>> No.11834515

>>11833928
Who hurt you anon

>> No.11834517

>>11831120
how is that different from certain strands of Buddhism?

>> No.11834585

>>11834517
There is no prime mover in Buddhism, and in death you don't become God or anything like that, but yes, in a way Buddhist praxis is the enactment or 'actuation' of death within life.

>> No.11834595

>>11834585
Insofar as the dry path is pure negation and death is the consummate moment of negativity

The devil is determinacy

>> No.11834663

>>11834585
>no prime mover in Buddhism
I thought it was just out of the question, not actually negated

>in death you don't become God or anything like that
I agree that Buddhism negates the identification to Brahma; but Nirvana and Brahmanirvana from certain advaita/ tantric schools seem very similar

Also,
>Buddhist praxis is the enactment or 'actuation' of death within life.

here's an inscription written on an inner wall of St Paul's Monastery of Mount Athos:

"If you die before you die, you will not die when you die"

>>11834595
"Every determination is a negation" Spinoza

>> No.11834732

>>11834663
>but Nirvana and Brahmanirvana from certain advaita/ tantric schools seem very similar

Yes, Buddhism doesn't deny the atma

>If you die before you die, you will not die when you die

Yup. Mysticism is what beats death to the punch

>"Every determination is a negation" Spinoza

Exactly. But Spinoza still deifies determination.

>> No.11834978

>>11830211
CHIM is the understanding of being chained by the dreamer, and what this usually entails is non-existence, but having a strong will and a keen perception of the fabric, one could nullify the effects of understanding and in essence become a dreamer within a dreamer. CHIM is rebellion.

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>>11832302

This is the most basic representation.

>> No.11835492

>>11830052
>>11830067

Have you seen this, by the way?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdQVDU72SJk

There's a subtitled version on youtube too but it's dubbed in Russian. Forgot which torrent is the original Georgian with English subtitles, RIP. You can play the audio from this one in background while you watch the muted subtitled Russian version though.

>> No.11835530

>>11835492
What is it?

>> No.11835536

>>11835530

A film. Very dialectical.

>> No.11835540

>>11835536
Nice. If you got any others keep em coming. All I do is read philosophy and watch art films