/lit/ - Literature

explain why iq is dropping in the west

>t. adhd dyslexic numale who prefers audio books

>>11790671
niggers

>>11790661
You haven't talked to millenial kids, have you? They can't even speak proper English but a niggerized version of it.

Modern technology has impaired the brains function to think. Previously, if you had the question "I wonder what Salmon eat" you would spend all day thinking about it, deducing it probably would have to be much smaller fish or plankton, perhaps some kind of plant material, and remembering from school that they like to go into fresh water to breed.

But now you just grab your phone, type it in and discover "A salmon's diet depends on the species and region, but typically juvenile salmon eat zooplankton, and larval and adult invertebrates. In the ocean, salmon eat smaller fish, such as herring, pelagic amphipods and krill."

The brain is no longer necessary and it shows when speaking to the average Millennial.

>>11790683
>>11790671
>16th century West was filled with outspoken intellectuals

>>11790690
21st century west certainly is filled with the outspoken, but not so intellectual

>>11790687
yes and people confronted with this generally refer to some bullshit about not knowing "trivial facts" or something
but the human brain doesn't work like that - understanding new things is just relating them to things you already know and the less you know the less you can understand

>>11790676
>>11790671

Unfortunately this isn't a completely unviable explanation.

>>11790661

Depends what you mean by "smart." Many of our cognitive tasks are now outsourced, however this arguably has been achieved at an undue cost. How many sevens does it take before we realize that originality is on its way to join the dodo? AI may very well replace that which is most human without us even noticing it, like a limb stolen by a shark leaving us in shock. I'd tread lightly if I were you OP; your projections may resemble the state of society more closely than you'd'nt even realize you know.

>>11790687
An interesting phenomenon found in recent years shows that human brain is shrinking in size with each generation. Contrary to popular opinion, it doesn't mean that people are getting dumber, but that people are shifting their biology towards stronger specialization. I no longer need to spend the whole day thinking about trivial things like the dietary choices of salmon because millions of men had thought about it before me and thanks to technology I get to tap into their collective knowledge. This frees me up to pursuit very specific interests, same way like agriculture in its time freed people from constant hunt and gathering and allowed them to build wonders. Humanity is nothing but a long quest in optimization.

>>11790715
>How many sevens
???

>>11790687
Based and redpilled

>>11790683
i could actually speak two dialects in highschool, the bastardized, Jamaican influenced version that dominates most of Toronto, and normal English. The niggerized one even had slightly different grammar, and we would constantly be inventing words, which would then pass through to other social circles in the city or words would come to us. The slang was always evolving so fast and had so many connotations that the simple act of speaking was this highly symbolic multileveld signalling process that you had to contantly be engaging in and refining but was all unspoken and purposefully ambiguous. My particular friend group of people was dominated by rich Jewish kids who were nonetheless petty cirminals that seemed to adapt to this really well. Fucking weird now that i think about it, teenagers are just weird, semiformed malleable half people.

>>11790687
>Previously, if you had the question "I wonder what Salmon eat" you would spend all day thinking about it
No you don't. You grab an encyclopedia or a book and learn the same shit.

>>11790738
You carry an encyclopedia with you?

>>11790721
the human brain is shrinking because spending all your early and mid 20s studying at uni like basically all non brainlets do is negatively correlated with reproductive success
there was a study just very recently from Iceland that showed that this is no conspiracy theory, the genes associated with high iq and more school years are negatively correlated with reproduction and therefore less common than a 100 years ago
this is something everyone knows but few people want to admit

>>11790739
You could go to your local library instead of "spending all day" pulling shit out your ass. You learn the same thing except physically getting a book is just slower.

>>11790721
So men are becoming tools?

>>11790671
land said sentient capital is an IQ shredder

>>11790757
>sentient capital
biggest meme ever

>>11790661

Brain size and IQ has decreased since the Victorian Age

>>11790751
Yeah but that's the point, the time between question and answer is when the brain thinks.

It's like why in school they make you think about the problems before giving you the answer, if you just show someone the question and then the answer, they learn nothing because they didn't have the chance to think.

>>11790661
I’m smarter than 99.9% of the population and I recognize that I’m a brainlet compared to the great men in history.

>>11790751
So you maybe wouldn't bother getting the book because it is physical labour and you can willingly stop it. However, you can't stop your mind from wondering to a topic if it has been bothering you. And so you're likely go trough this mental process of skimming trough things you know and trying to make patterns that would help you, which makes you smarter.

>>11790766
rote memorization does work for grammar and stuff though, you just have to also do exercises

The more mental energy you waste on an ungrateful, helpless, and hopeless polity, the worse off you become as an individual for no reason.

>>11790771
I think you have to focus on the people around you that you can tangibly help, and of course yourslf as well. Society at large is a bit of a meme that you dont meaningfully interact with

>>11790767
>smarter than 99.9%
>American undergrad admissions test scores, and not even perfect ones

>>11790766
Pulling shit out your ass doesn't get you any answers when it comes to stuff about the physical world. You're not actually getting closer to the answer of what salmon eat by thinking about.The only real alternative is going out and observing salmon yourself.

>>11790768
>Getting a book is physical labor
Jesus christ you're a waste of flesh.

>>11790671
It isn't. Iq is being constantly recalibrated upwardly. Read about Flynn effect.

>>11790780
Given my circumstances, it’s pretty outstanding relative to most. The perfect score really isn’t impressive at all, though, which just shows how low the bar is these days.

>>11790780
more relevantly the score with the greatest correlation with iq (math) is the one lagging behind

>>11790787
It's about the mental process you go through, not the actual result

>>11790787
>Imma just say call you names because I know you're 100% correct and I'm wrong
Tell me your 1 rep maxes before making opinions about physcal labour, sweetie. Guarantee I can outlift you as I have outbrained you

>>11790796
flynn effect accounts for westerners being better at standard iq tests than they were
other different measures that are fairly closely correlated with iq like reaction time have gone down significantly

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289613000470

>>11790801
I had to guess on 3 questions because I ran out of time. I checked every problem after completing it, because I assumed I had enough time to finish. Though I’m good at math I’m susceptible to mistakes, so i like to check my work.

>>11790755
Were they ever not?

>>11790815
Well, that's not even the main issue. The real problems are that the ACT isn't a representative sample of IQ for the international population, particularly given poor American math and science achievement, and that IQ poorly tracks general intelligence.
It's a bit of a stretch to start congratulating yourself as much as you are, even if most of the people you meet are comparitively stupid in respect to the subjects considered for the ACT.

>>11790671
Even if IQ is dropping it doesn't change the fact that we are becoming more intelligent due to us having a better conception of abstract worlds

>>11790749
I love that movie
>You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded

>>11790787
>Pulling shit out your ass doesn't get you any answers
yes it does you goddamn faggot. What do you think scientists (real scientists not faggot oriental empiricist "scientists") do after collecting evidence? Whoever pulls the most reasonable shit out wins and becomes the expert

>>11790863
obviously the movie is exaggerated to absurdity but the effect is very real

>>11790849
We haven't done metaphysics for thousands of years so no, we do not have a better conception of abstract worlds - otherwise we wouldn't have devoted an entire civilization to empiricism and rationalization

>>11790865
>after collecting evidence
Key detail

>>11790671
It isn't, silly.

>>11790721
Good post. What do you do anon?

>>11790877
the point is that with stuff like internet, vidya and movies we can more easily imagine other types of realities or worlds. what we can conceive of is greatly expanded compared to folks from older times.

>>11790722

>checks OP's image file name
>rechecks anon's initial reply
>potentially realizes greentext is an autistic circumnavigation of direct communication
>gives anon his number so he can send it to his sister so she can finally get a shot at actually getting married to avoid the eternal sentence as a spinster
>anon questions the last leg of this very odd snotgreentext, but recognizes this final reference

I'm just trying to make money, man.

>>11790687
this is what Heidegger means by curiosity, idle-talk, and ambiguity (all forms of inauthentic Dasein).

>>11790661
t. zoomer who once tried to read classic literature but was too stupid to comprehend it

Stick to capeshit and J. K. Rowling, kid.