/lit/ - Literature

needs milkman in the middle with some scissors

>>11774439
>confirming libertarians and fascists are on the same side
Not that we didn't know, but why do right-wingers keep ignoring the value of consistency in their propaganda?

>>11774486

>>11774439

I always perceived fascism as a totalitarian capitalism.

>>11774486
>monolithic right amongst non-mouth breathers

>tfw voted for trump to trigger the libs

No. Sentient capital needs it to manifest itself

>>11774515
He cute

>>11774515
when your life revolves around making reactions to other people's actions

>>11774515
based, redpilled.

>>11774515
BASED and REDPILLED

>>11774768
SAD! and BASEDPILLED

>>11774473
underrated FPBP

>>11774439
>the libertarian is the only one who sees what's actually going on
deep

reminder that facism is a coletivist ideology and that libertarians want to maximize the individual

seriously, do I have to spoonfeed the most basic stuff for you guys every time?

>>11774768
and then unironically posting about NPCs on 4chan

>>11774825
This is the joke you airheaded fuck - that in 2018 nationalists and libertarians share the same platforms, whereas socialists and commies have Apple electronics, drink at Starbucks and get media support from CNN.

Do you know exactly what Shakespeare's political opinions were? The best art transcends everyday policy debate and engages more with universal conflicts in the human condition. I know that's corny, but I'm serious.

>>11774887
lemme guess you're a dilettante?

believe me it shows.

Yes totally

I wish agents weren't 100% all fucking leftist. How many god damned books do we really need about race interaction dialogues, social justice concepts, strong wimminz voices, marginalized and underrepresented minorities, etc? Who even reads that crap? Why is it the entire fucking purpose?
If you don't cater to them they don't even want to look at you. Like shit I'm not even /pol/ but how about chilling with it.

>>11774948
they will make those books endlessly because reality doesnt align with how they want it to be. The problems will never go away because they cant be fixed, so they have a never ending source of material for their 'theories', and they get to ejaculate about their righteousness and by hysterical and self-flagellating while simultaneously aggrandizing their intellects.

>>11774948
The problem is jews, not "leftists."

why is this so ominous

define "politics" if you want a meaningful discussion

>>11774968
Publishing industry:
90% women
60% jews
95% leftists

>>11774974
The font of the last line

>>11774990
pretty much the same as the reading public

>>11774990
Modern leftism is a reflection of judaism in that it's the inversion of white societal norms.

>>11774996
No. But jewish control of the publishing industry and thus the acceptable narrative has largely, and intentionally, excluded white men and their interests. That's who jews view as their natural competitor, so it's become tilted towards women and onions boy narratives.

>>11774439
I dont recognise the symbol on the grey shirt. Anyone care to enlighten me?

>>11775061
fasces m8

>>11775061
It is a mighty faggot

>>11774439
Don't waste your time looking for a neutral space.

>>11775061
It's the old axe-faggot

>>11775040
its not jews....its market forces. its entirely democratic

>>11775111
trips

>>11775040
white "men" born after 1985 generally don't read. They watch sports, play vidya, watch capeshit (unironically) and watch anime. They consume media entirely passively

the jews didn't create this.

how can you sell books to a market that barely exists?

I'm sure "pewdiepie" will save these degenerates from the cultural vacuum in which they exist. lol

>>11774768
It’s great.

>>11775111
I'm going to assume you're being sarcastic.

>>11775145
Literature isn't geared toward them because it's being controlled by their racial enemy. And the jews did long ago to literature what they're doing to the video game and comic book industries now, which is poisoning it. White men have historically been by far the largest demographic of writers and readers of fiction. This has only recently changed due to the jewish nepotistic takeover and internal sabotaging of white publishing institutions.

>bourgies on the side of communists

???

Behead them.

t. Anarchist

>>11774504
fascism is communism's edgy brother

>>11775168
blah blah blah. white men don't read. why publish something that won't sell?

its more plausible that an elite fund and promote dead-headed pastime (watching sports, vidya, capeshit, anime), to distract white men from reading, than it is that the publishing industry is a victim of a conspiracy to subvert .........whatever

gotta go. gonna watch some football, drink beer then masturbate to cartoon chinese girls

>>11774439
politics, like feminism, or sexuality, or religion, or race, or any other abstraction is subordinate to literature, or any other artform.
you can read a work through a political lens, or a feminist lens, or a racial lens, etc. but by doing so you're choosing to interpret a single component of the work to explore that single dimension of it. you cant look at politics through a literary lens or race through a literary lens. the medium doesn't move in that direction.
when you read politics into a nonpolitical work that your shortcoming as a weak reader. take for instance the common notion that Lord of the Flies is a sexist book by feminists due to the lack of female characters. if you read that through the feminist lens you're bound to that interpretation.
if you read through a political lens you are bound by your ideological blinders to see what you're predisposed to see.
art always superscedes interpretations. if it were the other way around it would be propoganda.

>>11775211
You need to study up on the JQ. Jews are a hostile minority that view white men as their chief threat. They swindled white men and took over our institutions by pretending to be like us and are now using those institutions -- media, Hollywood, and the publishing industry, etc. -- to promote dumbed down garbage and whatever else weakens their enemy, including direct attacks like white privilege and so on. They don't have to conspire, they are an entrenched minority of gypsies living in our countries and given control promote whatever is good for them and bad for their enemy. Simple as that.

>>11775246
It's kind of true but it's less dramatic than you make it seem.

>>11775246
literature and books in general have little to no cultural influence today.
when Marlon James called out the publishing institutions it was middle-aged rich white women he said that controlled everything. literary trends follow the interests of rich white women in a much more measurable and consequential way than muh jews bogeyman

>Can the way that you see the world be removed from linguistic expression of the way you see the world?
No.

RIP the thread that died for this shit.

I write cheesy scifi/fantasy/superhero/high school romance fiction. Where's the politics in that?

>>11774768
Well I do my actions irl. This is a place of catharsis where people can speak their minds on others irl actions. It wouldn't be very wise to constantly judge and shit on people irl now would it? hmmmmm

>>11775260
That's biology. Nature is dramatic, bud.

>>11775268
Well, yeah, our publishing industry is being run by hostile middle eastern semites that are using it to push bottom-feeder propaganda and actively and overtly excluding the demographic cohort who is the most skilled at writing.

>>11774439
>Communists being in USA ever

>>11775305
Cpusa

>>11775314
Are you proving my point? CPUSA hasn’t done shit in decades.

>>11775314
They're actually Democrat shills. DSA is where you'll get your real socialists, including some Communists. But "socialists" in the USA are majorly in the tank for identity politics and SJWism, which is propagated by neoliberal elites. The comic is dead on.

>>11775331
I didn't even see it. That's actually funny

>>11774968
>>11774990
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>>11775168
>>11775211
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>>11775295
Why does /lit/ always let this one guy--and I know it's just one guy, he uses the same charts and graphs in every thread--successfully derail every single thread he shows up in? Jesus Christ, this board bites on bait worse than /co/.

>>11775331
The DSA is not even as big as the libertarian, fascist yet alone pro-big businesses. OP comics as always proudly proclaims his ignorance in politics and maybe some history too

>>11775178
>bourgies
capitalists

>>11775331
Lel, the fringe groups are "safety nets" for ensuring they vote with one party or the other

>>11774439
So the joke here is that the libertarian is stunned to realize that the capitalists and the communists have joined forces against him, right? And just as stunned that the fascist is the only one even close to fighting for causes similar to his own?

>>11775272
in the realizations the characters make which "makes them grow up", in pre-teen books there's always the big brother/big sister that the main character seeks to emulate

>>11775350
he was expecting to have the top-hat guy on his side and the fascist to be in the other with the commie: individualists vs collectivists

>>11775336
If you click on a picture it gives you the option to download it and then you'll have it too. Amazing isn't it?

>>11775336
>/pol/ is the fastest board, yet only one person.

>>11775352
you're just describing bildungsromans and you didn't address the political component to that narrative
>pre-teen books there's always the big brother/big sister that the main character seeks to emulate
no they don't

>>11775386
They might as well be one big NPC

>>11774768
That is when the fun begins.

>>11775339

Hang them.

>>11775394
nobody on this board ever calls me pol even though i went there for years

>>11774504
It is. Same with communist regimes like China.

>>11775403
/pol/ crossboarding is fine as long as they don’t suddenly sperg out and make everything /pol/ related like this shitty bait thread. Keep /pol/ in /pol/

>>11775394
My god the goalposts! Their moving on their own!

>>11775403
>>11775412
fuvk you /pol/ackniggerlovercrackerassbtch. You ain't white unless your eyes are green and your hair blue.

>>11775336
>/lit/ is mostly dunning-kruger midwits
>/lit/ users are overly emotional effeminate betas
>/lit/ has a high number of gays
>/lit/ is not used to arguing outside of literary critiques
>/lit/ has significantly more new redditors (who are not disagreeable /pol/fags inside an echo chamber)
>redditors cannot cope with insane people, they all get banned
>this guy is a smart anti-semite
>he argues in such a way that encourages anger and replies
>he never addresses what is said to him, only seizes on something inflammatory to start a new tangent
>is probably a sociopathic bait artist and not even a real anti-semite
>he claims to have never gone on /pol/
you do the math pumpkin

>>11775178
Probably taking a jab at the leftists are only concerned with identity politics these days that they stopped caring about the class gap

>>11775416
>My god the goalposts!
I wasn’t the same anon as the one who was talking to you

>>11775418
lel at this description

>>11774504
I know commies think in black and white, good and evil, capitalism and communism but one can be a fascist and use a communist economy.

>>11775422
Wow it is almost as if there was two Red Scares to wipe the USA of any leftism...

>>11775438
their central dividing point capitalism or socialims, makes zero sense sinc esocialism is impossible, so they have this immensely confused understanding of who is left and right wing and who is capitalist and etc. They think right=capitalism, leftist=socialist, instead of viewing the fundamental dichotomy as being about hierarchy in all spheres, rather than just the economic.

Impossible. Someone will always write with a political idea in mind for certain books. Not all books are political but the ones that are should either be well written or at the very least radical

>>11775438
Those are outdated 20th dichotomies. This century's updated version is whites vs the jews destroying white nations now, with most of the nonwhites, women, and low IQ whites and boomers unwittingly on the wrong team due to brainwashing.

>>11775336
>everyone I disagree with is one person

>>11775482
based and redpilled unironically this

Yes, all we need to do is range ban everyone who has posted on /pol/ from posting on the other boards.

Containment is possible, but only with competence!

>>11775425
shrug.
Also, if /pol/ is pretty diverse. You got your white nationalists, your national socialists, your white identitarians, your kekistanians, your monarchists, your ancap, your...

>>11775422
Yeah, what is up with that? Intersectionality apparently includes everyone but poor people.

>>11774439
Man, I just want politics removed from video games..

>>11775591
there are also Israeli nazis who are funny posters

>>11775591
seriously you dont seem to hear 'wealth privilege' anywhere as much as the other ones

>>11774515
This is why our country is doomed, because we have indifferent shitheads at the controls whose only reason is to troll.

Don't get me wrong, I think Clinton would've been just as bad if not worse but this "meme a guy into office" shit gets me worried about our future as a society.

>>11775652
>I think Clinton would've been just as bad if not worse
All whites are one issue voters these days or they're retarded. Immigration and making sure whites don't become a minority in our own nations is the only thing that matters.

>>11775438
NAZBOL GANG

>>11775652
Fortunately the odds that Trump will disband the elected presidency and trigger a monarchy are increasing. I expect Ivanka to win the battle for succession, and she'll be a good sovereign.

>>11775652
It's a symptom of the failing political system, not the cause. Ask yourself why so many are so alienated from democracy that they'll rather vote in memes than serious candidates. Or the fact that 'serious candidates' mean nothing and are as much as a meme as trump

National politics are for NPCs

>>11775688
You think a bimbo married to a Kushner kike would be a good leader?

>>11775652
If your political system can be hijacked by memelords, then it's a bad system desu

>>11775688
she's a handbag designer you idiot.

Another /pol/ thread. Perfect! I love when people just shit on things I love. I can't wait to see this whole board full of Trump/neocon memes or turned into a giant comment section about the current events. Good one, OP.
>Can politics ever truly be removed from literature?
We all know you don't care about the answer.
We also know there are good political novels, there are non political books that are extremely political too and you can find books and authors without any ties to politics.
Who cares about Aesop's political ideas? You can't find his political ideas in his fables.
When the brothers Grimm decided to put the Germanic folklore in book-form, they did something extremely political without even noticing. They compiled the stories that a poor Prussian woman would tell her kids after a hard day at work, the saved the forgotten oral tales from poor farmers in the middle of Pomerania. This was an exaltation of the Germanic people, something fantastic during the period when you look at the context.
Jorge Amado was political and he knew how to write a good story. He was a communist during the right-wing dictatorship, but he used to follow a Brazilian-African religion and you can see these things in his book (great books, btw).
But none of this matters.
Just like the SJW who never played a game in his/her life wants to shit on the new Japanese RPG or rewrite that dumb tv show, you want to shit on the board that talk about books, tv shows, animes, films, sports, fitness, music, fashion and so on.
Now you are what you hate. Congratulations.

>>11775392
>you didn't address the political component to that narrative
yes i did, you are just fucking politically illiterate and dont comprehend the concept of the new man
>no they don't
only in the cases where the character IS the big brother

>>11775740
Yeah but she's fairly intelligent, overall. And I guarantee you she'll find a way to dispose of the rest of Trump's children. It'll be like the old Ottoman emperors, who killed, exiled, or blinded their brothers and sisters when their father died. Ivanka, more than any of Trump's children, got his ruthlessness.

>>11775745
>you can find books and authors without any ties to politics.
you really can't

>>11775745
Good post. Everyone in this thread should probably be banned, including me.

>>11775712
This poster has an IQ higher than room temperature, everyone read this post.
If we had a decent candidate for presidency in the running no one would vote for a reality show star with funny tweets just to trigger people for the lulz. The fact is everyone else was total fucking shit, in all parties. There was no one running who had business being president, we had a pants shitting personification of corruption old hag who thought she was a fucking queen, an old commie shilling free gibs with no way to pay for it, a human slimeball, a nigger who hammertimed his own mother, and some literally whos.
If there was a real democracy with an actual decent candidate in the running, Trump would not have happened. And I say that as someone who likes Trump. The election of Trump was a middle finger to the kind of system that propped up the walking corpse that is Hilary Clinton as a serious candidate.
We have an outright corrupt, rotten to the core oligarchy. The bush and clinton dynasties have had a monopoly on the system for decades. When is the last time we had someone people actually wanted? Why are our elections a "pick the lesser evil" game?
It's so corrupt that no one but establishment puppets ever gets on the ballet. "Democracy" my left nut.

>>11775771
>Yeah but she's fairly intelligent, overall.
do you have any evidence of this?

>>11775438
>one can be a fascist and use a communist economy.
Untrue.
t. an unironic Fascist

>>11775780
Now tell us what Shakespeare, Antoine Galland and Homer used to think about politics.
Make sure to meme really hard to be full reddit.

>>11775813
kek, somebody hasn't read Shakespeare's history plays.

>>11775745
>waaaaahhhh /lit/ is shit and it's your fault
the board is easily baited and can't be protected from itself. it's because most of the userbase is borderline retarded.

>>11775813
Shakespeare was all but forced to appeal to the monarchy. It was expected at the time.
Why do you think he had so many plays about monarchs?

>>11775830
Go read Merchant of Venice and tell me a monarch forced him to write that.
Your shit is nonsense anyway, he was populist, the masses supported him well enough.

>>11775813
Homer -> informed the politics of early greece, shaped the way the polis operated and the social stratification of classic greece
Antoine Galland -> european colonialism fuel, synchretism(universalism)
Shakespeare -> theres enough books about this already

>>11775591
>You got your white nationalists, your national socialists, your white identitarians, your kekistanians, your monarchists, your ancap, your...
>diverse
About as diverse as Trot organization

>>11775843
they all have radically different conceptions about stuff though, you get confused because they all have in common that they laugh at niggers

>>11775652
Despite all the doom and gloom, in 32 years my life has only been affected by who's in office when Obama decided to start fucking with healthcare.

>>11775850
Maybe for the monarchists but most of the groups you listed disagree on minor issues just like the Left.

>>11775850
yeah but they're all idiots except the monarchists

>>11775858
>>11775861
The monarchists and the serious Christians are the /pol/tards worth listening to, because they actually have some grander vision of the world than hating people with different skin colors.

>>11775843
I'm a regular on /pol/. I'm socially liberal, pro choice, fine with gays, environmentalist, and don't want to force women into being traditional housewives. There's a ton of diversity on /pol/, I'm not alone on any of these views.
I'm isolationist (think Switzerland), infrastructure oriented, nationalist, technocratic, and low-tax small-government bordering on libertarianism. So tell me I'm the run of the mill bible thumping reactionary, go ahead. Again, I'm not alone on any of these views, though certainly a minority voice.
You're closeminded and don't know what the fuck you're talking about, but you sure love to talk.

>>11775798
How about the fact that she hardly ever tweets? Unlike Eric and Don Jr., she's at the very least smart enough to keep her mouth shut most of the time.

>>11775866
But you weren’t part of the groups listed in that post you fucking moron. I am saying the ideologies listed there save for monarchism is very similar to one another to be considered that distinct. Learn to fucking read instead of taking an opportunity to grandstand over a strawman

>>11775864
They have the most ‘radical’ view from all the rest. But everyone else have the same alignment in many things

>>11775864
>hating people with different skin colors.
That's not the issue. The issue is biology, and races like jews that have a very twisted and sick nature.

Some of the greatest literature in English was written during times of incredibly dangerous politics. See Shakespeare. He managed to stay mostly apolitical.

>>11775873
so she's smart enough not to speak and she's smarter than her absolutely retarded brothers. This means she would do a good job as an absolute dictator?

I won't argue she's smarter than her idiot family. But she is still in all likelihood pretty stupid.

>>11775875
You learn to read you ignorant stain. The poster you originally replied to was listing a variety of viewpoints TO DEMONSTRATE THE DIVERSITY OF VIEWS on /pol/ I further demonstrated the diversity. get your head out of your ass.

>>11775858
>white identitarians
advocacy for the well being of whites, maybe race-based immigration but not necesarilly, no secession/expulsion needed
>white nationalists
want secession/expulsion
>national socialists
comes in all colors but is more focused on economics than race, variations exist that dont care about race at all
>kekistanians
chaos retards, homo-enthusiasts, 100% schizophrenic psychopolitics
>monarchists
>ancap
dont have to explain at all i guess

in all honesty you could divide

nazi retards:
- white nats
- nat socs
- siege posters
- nigger exto

meme retards:
- kekistanis
- trumpsters
- ironic zionism

left:
- psychedelic anarchoprimitivist
- landian nrx
- nazbol

internet autism:
- moldbug nrx
- white identitarians
- sjws

finance autism:
- ancap
- minarchism
- bitcoin transhumanism

reaction:
- "muh tomato garden" nrx
- "i wanna live in a cabin in the forest"
- reactionaries
- monarchists

ex-piercings-havers:
- transhumanists
- unironic cyberpunks
- blockchain mutualism
- gene-modification
- singularity
- "i fell for the STEM meme"

center:
- unions/miller-light crypto-democrats
- gay republicans
- southerners
- republicans
- religion fags (christians, protestants, evangelists, esoterists, neoplatonists)

non-1st-world-flags:
- "i learnt english in videogames and i hate the commienigger ruling my country"

>>11775909
And I pointed his demonstration is not a very good one in making his point. I never said that the board isn’t diverse, but it’s diversity is rather limited in scope. Project your insecurity over the fear that you are in an echo chamber on someone else

>>11775908
>her absolutely retarded brothers.
Nah, Eric is /ourguy/, hommie.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/eric-trump-bob-woodward-made-three-extra-shekels-with-cnn-appearance/

>>11775930
I'm not your hommie retard.

>>11775937
So you're a nonwhite?

>>11775937
im not your retard bozo

>>11775914
But none of said ideologies are mutually exclusive or directly opposed to another. Hell your first three are a different blend of the same thing since natsoc are always white and the fourth a fellow traveler. Such nuances often exist in the Left yet everyone especially OP seems to overlook that.

Look we can waste hours spilling hairs over the topic, but you unironically enjoyed and posted OP’s picture where he confuses SJW with Bolshieks , you have lost the moral highground

>>11775947
>but you unironically
But if you unironically

>>11775438
>>11774504
Closer to a mixed economy. It can be unclear because they often employ dereg but then also centrally plan but then the ones involved in central planning are elevated business figures.
>>11774439
It's more rich guy, fascist and libertarians all pulling against another rich guy. The left is long dead.

>>11775947
>natsoc are always white
no, you are completely incorrect, and white nat doesnt imply soc in any way either, and siege posting is on another scale alltogether, it would be like saying democracy and stalinism is the same


>none of said ideologies are mutually exclusive
yes they are, they do touch, and they often do, cause we can have civil discourse and transhumanists and anarchoprimitivsts can merge into techno primitivsm without having to resort to censorship

i never claimed to have the moral highground, nor do i think he confuses SJWs with Bolsheviks, i think its a good comic because today capitalists are technocrats and technocrats are in favour of communism because communism was always ruled by technocrats

>>11775688
You need to get out more if you think that would ever happen. He is already facing possible impeachment depending on how the GOP feels about it. There is literally no way he would get rid of the election of the executive branch, not legally, not politically (as if he could muster the support for that), not by force (civil war is no fun and means I can't watch TV all night after work).

>>11775922
>your insecurity over the fear that you are in an echo chamber
I regularly argue with half of /pol/ on multiple subjects and I disagree with 3/4 of what I read there. I'm far from in an "echo chamber". Again, pull your head out of your ass and quit telling other people that they are how you want them to be, in full denial of the reality you are told.

>>11775970
>today capitalists are technocrats and technocrats are in favour of communism because communism was always ruled by technocrats

... And *shock* jews, who are the main people dictating how the west is being run today. And being outsiders who hate the west, they are thus running it into the ground and have to be stopped and removed by whites.

>>11775866
>the absolute state of 4/pol/

>>11775947
>Such nuances often exist in the Left
also, to answer to this, Right-Left is a very dumb way of thinking about it, what would you say each of them even are in the world of today?


>>11775988
the jq analysis falls apart when you start looking to places like latin america, that jews hold the positions they do in europe and north america id wager is more due to the history of supra-national political structures

>>11776001
What? Jews dominate in Latin America. They run all the media in Mexico and were entrenched in Brazil from the start since kikes were the main slave runners.

>>11775970
This is true, latinos are astonishingly hateful of non-natives, partially because of class and partially because they foolishly think removing "the bad ones" will make people like them.
>>11775988
This is honestly stupid, expanding the shittiest parts of the government in order to weed out the races you don't like to fix the shitty government is the biggest waste of time imaginable. The system is shit, the fact you and your kin were too dumb to succeed in the shitty system doesn't mean it would be better with you in charge. And this shit was tried before, a lot, and every time it ingrained Jewish people more into non-landowning fields.

>>11775970
>ask poster to not spilt hairs over minor details
>still does it anyway
All are dedicated to the perservation of hierarchies with the quibbles only concentrated how much perservation. Showing the minute difference between them only highlights their similarity. Call me when a schism happened like between the Red and Black.

>technocrats are in favour of communism
So today capitalists are in favor of communism? Ironically the most technocratic leftist distance himself from commies.

>>11775987
Considering how you ignored the main point in post to harp and grandstand even more on my insult, you are with the head up your ass wet Tory.

>>11776009
>The system is shit
Because it's run by jews who are a nomad race who can't run things. The system's shift into shit coincides with whites giving up power to nonwhites.

>>11776012
>ask poster to not spilt hairs over minor details
they are not minor details, you are entrenching yourself on a determined position looking to both sides and saying "everyone to the left of me is the same", "everyone to the right of me is the same"
if you are a commie everyone is a fucking fascist

>All are dedicated to the perservation of hierarchies with the quibbles only concentrated how much perservation
>nazi retards
want to dismantle the current hierarchy
>meme retards
want to dismantle the current hierarchy
>left
want to dismantle the current hierarchy
>internet autism
want to dismantle the current hierarchy
>finance autism
want to dismantle the current hierarchy
>reaction
want to dismantle the current hierarchy -> to go to a previous one
>ex-piercings-havers
want to dismantle the current hierarchy
>center
want to preserve the current hierarchy
>non-1st-world-flags
want to dismantle the current hierarchy

>>11776001
>Right-Left is a very dumb way of thinking about it, what would you say each of them even are in the world of today?
The perservation and reform of hierarchies? Do you want a complete list? For fuck sake read up on the history of the French Revolution where the dictomy was created and you can trace who are the modern Jacobin and Monarchist

>>11776039
so you know when and why the terms were created and still use them as if they were sth else than a political tool?

>So today capitalists are in favor of communism? Ironically the most technocratic leftist distance himself from commies.
gimme an example

>>11776033
None of the ideologies you listed except the left want to dismantle the current hireachy instead reversing the changes or tweaking it

>>11776051
it depends on what you understand the hierarchy to be
>nazi retards
jewish power
>meme retards
globalism
> post-left
landian chtuhlu
> internet autism
progressives / cathedral
> finance
politics
> reaction
democracy/republic
>ex-piercing-havers
genetic determination (nature)
>non-1st-world-flags
feudal lords

>>11776073
Your posting style reeks of spergy kike.

>>11776046
I use them as terms to understand the dialectical nature of politics

>gimme an example
Look up who conceived of CyberSyn. Also syndicalist/trade unionists are the real technocrats not the communists. Hell John McDonnell talked about technocratic system and he is a hard core trade unionist

>>11775652
Lately I've been obsessed with the idea of what comes after Trump? How is the politican viewed afterwards? Trump is the result of pent up frustration towards to prevailing order, but now it's clear that order has become destabilized, will people willing rembraced said order for the sake of political comfort?

>>11776088

>>11776088
>I use them as terms to understand the dialectical nature of politics
really brainwashed way of seeing it

>>11776148
>Engineering is technocratic
Do you even know what technocratic means?

>>11776177
>i didnt even google what the book was about

>>11775669
Nice. It's a wild idiot.

>>11775685
I thought that unruhe was an internationalist.

>>11776187
It is about the history engineering. Technocracy is government by the experts. This is why trade unionism and syndicalism are attracted to it since they are the experts of their trade

>>11776240
is about technocracy on the ussr

>>11775652
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7ZuffBrloo

I blame you specifically 4chan.

>>11774439
Gramsci predicted this

>>11774486
>thinking left or right wing are useful descriptors

>>11775685
Wait, Zachary Taylor? He's like my great^3 grandpa or something. I always thought he was just another crap president, but it was the jews all along?!
Do I have to take this to /his/ or can someone tell me about it?

>>11775792
>The election of Trump was a middle finger to the kind of system that propped up the walking corpse that is Hilary Clinton as a serious candidate.
>We have an outright corrupt, rotten to the core oligarchy.
Indeed.
>>11776111
The swamp ain't drained yet.

>>11775914
>blockchain mutualism
Hol' up! That's getting enough attention on /pol/ that it ranks? Dang! Are the Trumpers gone yet? Maybe I can stand the place again.

>>11775685
Everyone who is defending Clinton ITT please explain why she murdered Gadaffi

>>11776245
It is about Technology brainlet.

>>11776442
Please tell me why Muammar Gaddafi DIDN'T deserve to die?

>>11774439
no, dumbass

and it can't from anything else, either

>>11776442
Please explain why American interventionism is a thing even before her

>>11776475
>commander in chief is the supreme military position in the US
>Hillary Clinton has pushed for uneeded intervention in LIbya that has lead to endless civil war, voted yes on the illegal Iraq War, and sold weapons to Saudis to bomb civilans in Yemen
>YEAH BUT AMERICA WENT TO WAR BEFORE HER SO SHE'D MAKE AS GOOD A PRESIDENT AS ANYONE ELSE

please don't vote or reproduce

>>11775438
hahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>11776406
>Dang! Are the Trumpers gone yet? Maybe I can stand the place again.
All the QAnon and MDE subreddits just got shoah'd alongside that EU Article 13, so naturally this is prime time for shills and idiots. Its a million times worse than usual
Pic related managed to generate enough 'discussion' to hit bump limit

>>11776530

>>11776523
>illegal Iraq War

Oh grow the fuck up. War can't be made "illegal". No one who fights a war even gives a shit about the Geneva Convention you fucking child.

>>11775771
>People unironically find this ET "attractive"

>>11776556
Where were the WMDs? You said there would be WMDs.

Surely there were WMDs because if you invaded a country claiming there were WMDs and there were none you'd either be an idiot or evil - and unfit to lead a nation.

>>11775685
>Russian Communism
>Jews: WE NEED TO STOP THIS!!!

You Fascifucks confuse me, I thought you all swore that Communism was a Jewish conspiracy?

>>11776579
theres nothing wrong with communism as long as it is local

>>11776578
war being fraudulent or immoral is a different issue than it being illegal

>>11776530
Damn, that board needs less traffic.

>>11776578
America effectively rules the world and writes most if not all the rules brainlet, have since the end of the second world war.

As long as our international gambles don't tread on Chinese or Russian international/military interests or sovereignty we will get away with any war we start.

Get over it.

>>11776589
Said absolutely no fascist ever.

>>11776579
And you commucucks never cease to impress with your lack of historical knowledge.

The initial Bolshevick movement was primarily led by Jews, but Stalin purged them all with le pick axe of peace. Look up how neoconservative ideology gained it's roots in the US - former communist jews fled to the US and established a political philosophy with which to fight Stalin and the USSR who had turned on them

At the end of the day stalin was a nationalist and a socialist a National Socialist if you will - opposed to Trotsky's (((internationalist revolutionary))) garbage. Of course all of this is over your head - I'm saying it for the benefit of others in the thread, not you.

>>11776609
Communism is fascism.

>>11776613
Then why did Hitler hate him so much? Was it just because he was a paranoid dipshit?

>>11776261
The symbolized collectivity of that video, is it really a horde of people so jaded and complacent and incapacitated from normal interactions (like having an intimate conversation with an interesting looking passerby) that they glumly rest on the laurels of nihilist indifference and allow the disassociation to drive them into such a narrow field of idealism, they allow that peculiar trait of human madness to numb their lack of physical difficulties and insignificance, a wholly impulsive opposing force to what they lump as cultural leveling done by the media left jews etc., a dream for real competitive spirit of their design, that being the silly games and unawareness of self-involvement of the design of things outside that being language-computer science-human constructs, the WHY of what they should be doing.

What the hell happened here? Is there a method of analyzing accurately just how many people that post memes are also anxious or depressed? They're all so closed off and in hiding, supported by family, their dorm; how could that happen, how could you measure the generalized depression/anxiety of a subject that is unaware of it? Has the mindless physiologically healthy serf-class (those holding primeval and non-intellectual impulses) always been so susceptible to conscious problems, and only now that their existential "free-will" jading them down into inadequacy do they decide, "well gee, I don't talk to people like I did before cell phones but I'll feel better if those weak (and they are weak) socialites whining for equality of outcome are indignified--what free spirits we are!" But they aren't free spirits, they're eyes-glazed-yellow idealists, guys tired of thinking of life in a world of excess, why not have some change ("change" as a kind of mythological process being meaningful in itself, serf-propelled and weaponized instant gratification) in a world of security? And is that the kind of madness that put us above animal consciousness? An impulse for a conflict that could change the conditions of their meaningless world, a lack of understanding being as a kind of real love for the world, a love that teaches and withdraws itself so as to build the interconnectivity of being's mechanical parts--being as what we can only perceive as "psychical" etc. but really is a designed "mechanical" way to do things, without all the tired imagining.

>>11776595
It was illegal for different reasons. I was establishing Clinton's incompetence to assume the role as Commander in Chief.

>>11776606
This in no way contradicts anything I've said.

>>11776622
TL;DR, sorry you spent the last half hour typing it out.

>>11776621
poland

>>11776623
War isn't illegal you fucking idiot.

>>11776609
Im decidedly anti-communist, mostly because equality is a failed meme, but fascism and nat-soc carries considerable elements of communalism

>>11776621
Partly. They originally invaded Poland together and planned to carve Europe in half, but Hitler undertook an ill advised preemptive invasion.

>>11776634
Yes, war can be illegal there is a way that war must be declared and conducted to be considered legal by the United States Constitution and the United Nations.

>>11776636
they irked him by invading finland too, the soviets where doing shit without telling first

>>11776642
>UN

Nice meme.

>>11776643
He still should have waited until Britain fell before opening a second front.

>>11776648
Hindsight is 20/20, armchair general faggot.

>>11776651
Nice meme kid

>>11775246
>implying they care about anything else other than making money

>>11776648
i guess he feared it would exhaust them and leave them open for a backstabbing

if im not wrong (and i very possibly am but i prefer to disclaim before googling), mussolini was fucking up already

>>11776684
>the jews arent a supportive community worldwide
>they dont help and protect legally, economically and politically each other when minorities
>they dont do youth networking programmes

>>11776687
Mussolini was more ideologically sound than Hitler, but he was burdened with waging war using the Italian military instead of the German.

His invasion of North Africa was pointless, once Britain was sufficiently weakened they would have had to withdraw their colonial troops to defend the mainland anyway.

>>11774439
>>11776698

>>11776719

>>11776719
but its true man, i wish every community was like that

>>11776523
>YEAH BUT AMERICA WENT TO WAR BEFORE HER SO SHE'D MAKE AS GOOD A PRESIDENT AS ANYONE ELSE
But I never implied that at all, only asking why are you single out one cog in the military industrial complex to blame for everything

>>11776783
>highest position in the military

Gee, I wonder why people didn't want her in that spot

>>11776648
That would in turn have been waiting for the Soviets to open that second front for them, in range to bomb German industry.
The idea was for a quick thrust into the Soviet Union to push the lines back enough to secure Germany and from there focus all efforts on Britain once Stalin capitulated.
Of course that's not what happened since the Krauts underestimated Soviet capabilities incredibly and were facing vastly superior and more numerous units than expected. In his discussion with Mannerheim, Hitler states that if someone were to have brought him accurate intel reports, he would have thought them insane, to have been seeing ghosts.

>>11774515
Okay, this is epic

>>11776989
>to secure Germany
And the Romanian oil fields.

>>11776719
Bellissimo

>>11774515
He's a handsome little guy

>>11776394
This. That's in fact the entire point of the comic.

>>11776552
>>11776530
GNOSTIC-SYNDICALIST REVOLUTION FUCKING WHEN

>>11777132
Never. If you haven't been paying attention its the center that is the best option and not being slave to the rancid Demiurge

>>11774515
BASED

>>11774515
>mfw i did i school shooting to trigger guntards

>>11777182
Doesn't make sense. Shooting up schools is the best reason to have guns

>>11777182
have fun having CIA follow you closely

>>11776800
Again, a cog in the machine

>>11777205
>Sir we have reports of a frogposter making a post on an imageboard
>FOLLOW HIM CLOSELY

>>11774768
what does your day compose of you solipsist

>>11775422

They are not leftists then. They are liberals. Anyone that supports capitalism and its disgusting shit is a liberal. Ironic for burgers to hear, I'm sure.

>>11775771

More like Ivanka Trunk goddamn is that a woman or giraffe with cosmetic surgery

>>11777289
lol you should be writing for Stephen Colbert

>>11777294

Ty smiley

>>11777132
>gnostic syndicalism
>not techno anarchoprimitivst
bro do you even insert arduinos into your tomato garden?

holy shit >>>/pol/ is retarded

>>11775527
Not him, buy that doesn't prove anything.

>>11774768
Sounds like most politics desu

>>11774439
This is actually hilariously accurate, maybe I'm dumb but while i noticed the the libertarian/fascist relationship i never noticed the connection between the left and le capitalist class.

>>11775350
The joke is the literal polar opposite political factions getting along.

>>11778037
>i never noticed the connection between the left and le capitalist class.

Read the Guardian for five minutes. They're both in unison promoting the fantasy that no one on Earth is a threat to you and everything you and your people have worked for don't belong to you.

>>11778037
>the left is all communist
so this is the power of american education

>>11778040
no the joke is the left/right dichotomy

>>11778064
The image is obviously a simplification, you mong.

>>11775652
>Just as bad
Land rape, pollution and climate change

>>11778081
>implying Clinton would have done shit about climate change

>>11778081
Kek this shit would still be happening just with the added benefit of throwing tax money at "green" initiatives that keep going belly up.

>>11776589
socialism in one country never works and leads to ideologically impossible shit like the wars in indo-china.

>>11778095
>>11778112
Wouldn't have had massive deregulation, drilling in contential shelf and dumping fly ash in our rivers

>>11778114
Who gives a shit. Thats pissing in the ocean compared to whats coming down the line either way.
Better we focus on making money and preparing for the climate induced race war instead of weakening ourselves just to virtue signal and achieve nothing

>>11778114
The tax breaks alone have been a disaster, everything green and good is getting buried under sprawling appartment complexes and subdivisions. Dirt is cheap, taxes are down, they say.

>>11778119
People who aren't ignorant retards.

>>11778071
Why would he be confused about his own side working together with him against the other?
Libertarians and fascists should hate eachother's guts but they fucking don't.

>>11778113
>socialism in one country never works
what did anon mean by this? no really, are you saying that extreme forms of socialism never work, or that socialism in any way, shape, or form never works? or are you saying that socialism needs to spread across the world?

>>11778123
>climate change and soil exhaustion is going to lead to global crop failure
>duuuuuh lets build some wind mills

>>11778064
I doubt the guy means literal communists honestly, the artist is your standard /pol/fag.
Although he's pretty funny desu.

>>11778129
Yeah, that's not what I'm saying at all.

>>11778129
>I know, instead of building windmills, let's stuff the higest levels of goverment full of big energy shills and do this
https://www.promiseskept.com/achievement/overview/energy-and-environment/#

https://www.promiseskept.com/achievement/overview/regulation/

How are you so fucking retarded?

>>11778063
Guardian can't even stop shitting on Corbyn so no

>>11778130
>means literal communists honestly, the artist is your standard /pol/fag.
Soooo he does mean it?

>>11778151
The point is Hillary would be doing the exact same shit, except more inefficient and pouring money down the toilet.
Its better to go fullhog and make as much money as possible than virtue signalling with billions of dollars

>>11778168
When a holocaust denier calls someone a communist i think its safe to assume there's wiggle room there.

>>11774439
>can fiction be removed from fiction
you tell me

>>11778127
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_One_Country

>>11778172
Your post is unnecessarily vague. I am pretty he does think everyone he doesn't like are communist since he is a /pol/fag

>>11778170
Hillary wouldn't deregulate anything retard. No Hillary would not have done the same shit at all. Trump's campaign was pretty much run by energy lobbyists from the likes of the competive enterprise institute who are the same people who made his appointments for him. From Trump's executive agencies to his courts, everyone is blatantly hostile to any kind of environmental regulation.
Why are magapedes completely ignorant of policy and civics? People like you are too inept to vote, I sincerely mean this, it's why our founding fathers wanted an aristocratic congress, to keep the retards out of democracy. It's obvious that was a titanic failure.

>>11778170
Trump outright denies climate change exists.

>>11778304
based