/lit/ - Literature

It's based cringe.

hilarious either way

baringe

>Underground Man
Cringe

>Dostoyevsky
Based

Whats your favourite episode from it /lit/? I find the funniest part is when he spends ages stalking that guy he doesn't even know.

>>11756501
why did he have to be so fucking weird towards the whore?

>>11756501
It's both. Dostoyevsky deliberately made it to be that way, it's supposed to be humorous but also sad, the narrator is delusional but he also may have a point.

>>11757564
>when he plans for weeks to upstage this guy by not moving aside when he walks towards him on the street, buys new clothes he can’t afford for the event, avoids it for like 2 weeks, then finally does it and barely mutters out a “y-you too”, then goes home and pretends he’s just won a huge victory and dances with joy
How did Dostoevsky peer into the future with such precision?

>>11757586
The weak fear happiness

>>11756501
I am the underground man

>>11757586
Never had any emotional warmth in his life. The moment he felt it, it hurt him.

>>11756501
Damn... he's just like me!

>>11757564
Forcing his way into the private dinner of the "friends" he knew from school hit very close to home for me

>>11757586
Because when you've been a miserable fuck for so long and someone actually shows you kindness you don't know what to do with it so you act like a fucking sperg
not that I would know anything about that

>>11756501

>>11758399

Because humans have never ever changed as much from one time to another as we all like to pretend we have.

>>11757605

> In short, one may say anything about the history of the world--anything that might enter the most disordered imagination. The only thing one can't say is that it's rational. The very word sticks in one's throat. And, indeed, this is the odd thing that is continually happening: there are continually turning up in life moral and rational persons, sages and lovers of humanity who make it their object to live all their lives as morally and rationally as possible, to be, so to speak, a light to their neighbours simply in order to show them that it is possible to live morally and rationally in this world. And yet we all know that those very people sooner or later have been false to themselves, playing some queer trick, often a most unseemly one. Now I ask you: what can be expected of man since he is a being endowed with strange qualities? Shower upon him every earthly blessing, drown him in a sea of happiness, so that nothing but bubbles of bliss can be seen on the surface; give him economic prosperity, such that he should have nothing else to do but sleep, eat cakes and busy himself with the continuation of his species, and even then out of sheer ingratitude, sheer spite, man would play you some nasty trick. He would even risk his cakes and would deliberately desire the most fatal rubbish, the most uneconomical absurdity, simply to introduce into all this positive good sense his fatal fantastic element. It is just his fantastic dreams, his vulgar folly that he will desire to retain, simply in order to prove to himself--as though that were so necessary--that men still are men and not the keys of a piano, which the laws of nature threaten to control so completely that soon one will be able to desire nothing but by the calendar. And that is not all: even if man really were nothing but a piano-key, even if this were proved to him by natural science and mathematics, even then he would not become reasonable, but would purposely do something perverse out of simple ingratitude, simply to gain his point. And if he does not find means he will contrive destruction and chaos, will contrive sufferings of all sorts, only to gain his point! He will launch a curse upon the world, and as only man can curse (it is his privilege, the primary distinction between him and other animals), may be by his curse alone he will attain his object--that is, convince himself that he is a man and not a piano-key!

is this an example of an underground man?

>>11760813
There's a sequel apparently, which kind of sucks because it ends on such a hopeful note. Kurosawa is more about an average guy trying not to be average and watching him struggle and fail. He's the antithesis of the underground man who doesn't work to raise himself up the social ladder.

>>11756501
Dosto has no cringe works.

>>11760769
We havne't always been this way. The person described in Notes didn't exist prior to the Enlightenment.

>>11756501