/lit/ - Literature

dogshit except the nabokov

>>11733870
no u

Not pictured are The Letters of Dorothy Osborne to Sir William Temple.

i've read most of them in a day, and now feel im in love...

i so wish there was more.

>>11733959
nice

>>11733959
És Português?

I have The Politics of Being and Eileen coming in soon, too. I kinda want to buy that new Ben Marcus short story collection.

>>11733962
Thanks

>>11733980
No, my grandfathers are Portuguese, they came to Brazil in the 40s, so I have dual-citizenship. Why the astonished book though?

>>11733991
I am curious. Which short stories they have selected for the Oxford collection? Could you post a photo?

>>11733859
> Donne

You wont regret it. Some f the most marvelous poetry ever written.

Got a bunch of English stuff.
First everyman's book, decided that if I'm going to read it for a third time, I might as well get a good copy.
The End of the Moment We Had seemed interesting when another anon posted it in a thread, read a bit of it, and it hits somewhat close to home.

Beowulf seemed interesting after I've read three versions of the Nibelungenlied. I've grown to like epics in the last few months.

I got the Ortega book because a teacher of mine said that it'd help me elaborate and refine the system I've thought up for myself, because Ortega's "Mass man" is quite similar apparently to what I've described to her.

Got the Jünger book because it's short prose, and it was cheap. Never had the luck to read him in German, so this will be a first time for me.

Classic of Mountains and Seas: Saw this one mentioned numerous times in other Chinese works, and that's why I've decided to pick it up.

The Mishima is "Temple of the Golden Pavilion" in a Hungarian edition. Decided to get this over an English edition because this one is a Hardcover, and I'd say the translation will suffice probably just as well as the English one, and it was cheaper.
I'd say it was a pretty good haul.

From a recent trip to London.

>>11733859
Pale Fire is really nice.

>>11734443
Nice Ortega y Gasset, getting really popular recently.

>>11734460
Been looking to pick up Warlock for a while.

>>11734117
The same that's on here:
https://books.google.com/books?id=cMjrXWXqtgYC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

>>11734672
That's a very good selection. You will enjoy midnight mass and the man who knew Javanese.

>>11733948
An actual reader. Periodically one appears..

Here's what I got over the week.

>>11733859
járj a könyvszekerekhez

Criticize me, niggers

>>11734645
Same, as soon as I saw it on the shelf I grabbed it. Only time i've see it in a shop.

Rate, please.

¿Por qué tu copia de Teogonía es tan gruesa? La edición porrúa es extremadamente delgada e incluye más obras.
btw nice porrúa

>>11736580
Tiene un estudio de la obra y una introduccion bastante extensa. La verdad es muy buena edicion, la recomiendo

>>11736580
Alguna vez he visto una copia de la Teogonía así. Se componía principalmente de una introducción extensa y un sinfin de notas. El texto de la Teogonía por sí sola eran 32 páginas, griego en una página y castellano en la opuesta.
>>11735704
>jumping straight from Plato to Bergson
Have fun with that.

my ’’’’’’stack’’’’’’. ~30 pages left, and I just read the 2 most beautiful pages in the book

>>11735704
qué edición de la Iliada/Odisea es esa?

>>11735704
Editorial Porrúa es el Penguin Classics de México.

>>11736629
Es la edición de Alianza. Bastante decete.
>>11736640
True. Pero para algunos libros si rifa.
>>11736613
Platon y Bergson son ez. Hasta ahorita por lo menos

>>11734887
vidéki vagyok, haver (mondjuk ha Pesten jártamban látok egy ilyet, meg szoktam nézni, van-e valami jó)

>>11734887
Nem mindig esik útba, meg nagyon sok bennük a vacak. De lehet találni gyöngyszemeket.

>>11733859
4/10
>>11733948
3/10
>>11733991
2/10
>>11734443
5/10
>>11734460
7/10
>>11734827
4/10
>>11734856
4/10
>>11734863
3/10
>>11734899
1/10
>>11735294
3/10
>>11735704
2/10
>>11736474
1/10
>>11736610
5/10

>muh anglocentric culture
>muh philosophy
>muh nabokov
>muh maymays

>>11736474
Looks comfy!

7/10

>>11736984
Nice self portrair there you’ve posted

>>11737023
t.

>>11737026
Look, he did it again!

>>11733991
I picked up that Oxford book of spic stories last week, nice

'sup pseuds

>>11737789
1/10

>>11737799
care to elaborate?

>>11737789
Who translated that Genji?
Is it complete or abridged?

>>11737821
Edward Seidensticker, it's complete as far as I can tell.

>>11737828
>reading OreImo in Japanese but Genji in English
>the Seidensticker translation at that

>>11737789
terribad

>>11737854
He probably only got the novels to jerk off to the images and shitpost on /lit/

>>11737854
You know that Genji is a novel written in an 11th century court language that hardly makes sense even to a native Japanese speaker, right?
What’s wring with Seidensticker’s translation btw?

>>11737854
Can't you see how thick Genji is? My Japanese isn't that good

>>11735294
>translations

>>11737858
>>11737799
I can see you have no real arguments against my based dionysian stack, pseud boys

>>11737869
>You know that Genji is a novel written in an 11th century court language that hardly makes sense even to a native Japanese speaker, right?
I'm mostly just shitposting, but Classical Japanese isn't that different from modern Japanese, and you can start going through basic texts after a bit of study.
>What’s wring with Seidensticker’s translation btw?
Just not a fan of his style, really (although I haven't read much). Everything gets simplified. He's probably just as if not more "accurate" than Waley, but look at this article comparing the very first sentences:
>https://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/31/arts/31seidensticker.html
Waley is the target of the slur "lushly Victorian", but his translation is basically a clause-for-clause literal translation of the original:
>いづれの御時にか、女御、更衣あまたさぶらひたまひけるなかに、いとやむごとなき際にはあらぬが、すぐれて時めきたまふありけり。
I'm not an expert on Japanese or translation, and I haven't read the full version of any version of Genji, so there are probably areas where Seidensticker is superior. Again, I'm just shitposting, and someone else will probably come along and prove me wrong.

>>11733980
boas, paneleiro

>>11738026
>He's probably just as if not more "accurate" than Waley
Here's the catch, because then it depends which style you prefer.
Honestly, I didn't have that much of a problem with reading Sidensticker's translation of Kawabata for example, the only thing I've noticed after multiple reads is that the sentences themselves might be a little bare bones, therefore repetitive at times.
>clause-for-clause literal translation
That works in some cases, but not in others, plainly because languages often don't treat relations between objectives the same.
Of course, that's how it's accurate, but for a translator it's also important not only to keep close to the original, but also to make it pleasant to read in the language he or she is translating it into. Of course of the given language is underdeveloped grammatically, or has a relatively small vocabulary, or just simply an outdated one, then it might make sense to go the overly accurate way, as to help give a little push to the more primitive language, an evolutionary injection of you will.

Translating is a really interesting subject, morally and technically too.

>>11734827
Thanks.

I collect penguin paperbacks, or some types of them at-least, so i'd love to have a full Shakespeare .

>>11739131
I still don't have all the Pelicans (I'm lacking 3 or so) but I've literally picked up pieces of this set from all over the country at used shops, San Francisco to Boston. Your Campion volume put me in mind of a little turn of the century 2vol pocket Hesperides (Herrick's) that I saw downtown last weekend. Almost bought it! I love good, old reading copy books.

>>11740199
This is some top notch quality photography right here, I can even almost read the titles

>>11740199
shittiest photo i've seen all year. examine yourself

>>11740239
Chill m8 forest fires have been hell on earth this year eh

>>11737789
Great

>>11740239
is this ok daddy

any else feeling comfortable?

>>11740500
I have 4 works of Bernanos and I play to buy diary. No longer human is absolutely awful though.

>>11740563
Trying to get into Japanese literature. What didn't you like about Dazai? Haven't read anything about him yet.
What is your favorite Bernanos? I've only read Mouchette and it was incredible.

>>11740592
Is that a image of Cortazar?
I just noticed that you also added The Invention of Morel, one of the best books I have read this year.
I read No Longer Human in 2013, so I don't remember much, you can take my word that it is bad.
I said that I have four books, because I bought them all recently with a nice discount and haven't read a single one yet. I am halfway through Mouchette by the way, not bad so far. The other books I have are dialogue of Carmelitas, Under Satan's Sun and a Bad Dream. I always read that Diary of a Country Priest is his greatest work.

Every book past the first lowers your retention across the whole stack, but I'm also reading Light in August
Keep it slim

>>11740149

I love old books as well (pic reminds me i should probably get around o read Johnsons lives properly rather then just for the few poets im familiar with.

im embarrassed to say i got this one out of the trash.

what had probably happened was that someone , some reader, had died and his children or grandchildren had just taken all of his books and threw them into the trash.

And they didnt pile them around the rubbish bins like they do sometimes .no, it was in the trash with bags of half eaten chicken and whatnot.

So, i climbed into the tank -- the garbage bins here are big enough for 6 people to stand in , and this one about half full --, squatted and stated separating the 6 part 200+ yo editions of The Collected Works Of Jonathan Swift and other treasures from bags of dismembered fish .

Over multiple trips, i had got about 30 books and gave some poor girl an honest fight as i popped out of a bin, like a gofer coming out of a burrow .

One of these books was 289 Yo.

A bit of shame i admit, but i only regret not digging deeper. Im sure that must have been more. And i had never found that first volume of Gibbon's Decline and Fall. it must have been there...

>>11742414

i should say most of it was Victorian literature which ,with some exception, dosent interest me that much.

Also there were about 10 Penguin paperbacks which i kept.

>>11740149
>>11742414
Books here are so steep that 9 times out of 10, and disregarding required reading for my courses, I get my books second hand somehow. Antiquarians, old widows cleaning out their /lit/ as fuck husband's library, the books they put out around campus that are either discontinued from the library or a professor's personal library -- it's a gold mine. I've often come across Pelicans and have collected a few myself, but what has kept me from collecting more is the difference in the condition of the books you find.
My greatest find was probably pic related because I found a matching set of Lessing's works from a completely different seller, the oldest was probably a different set of Goethe published around 1830, but it was written in fracture and I haven't got the time for that.

>>11742414
For some reason this post gave me feels. Well done getting them books anon

>>11734460
Which bookshops there do you recommend?

>>11742811 (checked)
https://londonbookshops.org/

rate

>>11742414
I enjoyed reading this post.

>>11742767

> That Goethe

hmmmm......


Conditions are always a a problem . i had taught myself to repair, and even replace, spines for i hadn't the heart to throw away some of the things i found.

The Tennyson, the Chaucer to Burns (it's the 1883 one, from the previous pic) the LoA American Poetry and the Keats are all patch up jobs.

BTW those two Proust's in the main stack picture are rescues as-well. i had a battered set of paperbacks of the complete sequence but i guess im collecting hardbacks now .

>>11742871
>>11742788

Thank you, and Thank you.

>>11742414
What's that saying?
>One man's trash is another man's gold

>>11742865
r9k/10

>>11742997
Why is that?

>>11736984
>he even rates the meme photos that are 3 years old

>>11733948
>Dorothy Osborne letters

read them for history. Freakin wonderful.

A book about Christian Abolitionism
Some Ernest Dowson
Some Clive James
And Dante

>>11733859
What did the book store clerk think of me

>>11744597
wealthy pseudointellectual stocking up on cultural capital

>>11744597
"Just another fag going through the /lit/ reading list."
Judging by the list, you must be really new here

>>11744628
I've been here whole summer, daddy

>>11740500
Nice beer pad. Got untappd?
Dazai is fantastic.

>>11742414
>am embarrassed to say
nonesense, anon. Grew up just down the street from a great used book shop the owner of which I befriended when in hs. He had various 'secret' diving grounds about town and just after my soph year in college landed pic related, and he wanted 5. Literally negotiated with him all summer long and the evening before heading back to school he said he'd let me have it for a buck 50. Couldn't really afford it but bought it anyway. It's usable, in fine condition and now worth about a k (2 vols.). Thought about posting it supra instead of the 2 Oxford Lives but already had that pic in my photo bank and- was in a hurry. Please, your pic'd text? I know what colpo is in Italian and what a colposcopy is but if a clue was lost on me.

>>11736984
You have ruined my feelings

>>11742414
Rats. Meant to post this one, but that last one does give perspective.

>>11744921
my b

>>11742884
Like that RJ up on the right there, anon. Ever read Pictures from an Institution (his one novel)? Good stuff, but so's the poetry and critical stuff. Strange how most everyone with books in this thread shows some Auden..

>>11733859
>Beowulf by Jack
???

>>11744597
>another faggot who reads the book of disquiet

>>11733859
is that 2666 in the background?

>>11737941
Imagine if we had the ability to quickly learn new languages. Imagine reading Homer in his native ancient Greek, or Dostoevsky in Russian. Imagine how slick and sophisticated those French philosophers sound in their own language. Why do humans have to be such brainlets?

>>11737789
My little anon can't be this meme-addled.

>>11733859
getting into cormac

Hoping this posts right-side up

>>11745419

just above, are those the old Everyman hardback's?
I've been desperate to get my hand on some ever since, as a child, i was shown whole shelves of these in the private library of a family fiend. Interestingly, i later learned that among his claims to fame was a stint in the Gulag with solzhenitsyn. I wasn't old enough to appreciate it at the time, but i'd have loved to have a proper conversation with him. Since then, they've been my private library ideal.
There's just something so kitsch about a gold spine. I think that it's a mark of true distinction to be able to open one unselfconsciously.


Anyway here's the oldest book i've got (1750..something ish) it's so old i dare not even try to repair it.

as for the picture, it's a Chaucer to Burns Anthology. it's next to the Tennyson in >>11742884 (it's also got the hardest paper I've ever seen in a book)

>>11746726
oh wait i do own an older book, a 289 Yo bible.

>>11733859
$2 at goodwill, where the cashier sort of sneered at me!

Most of my fall uni reading list. Missing
>Duchess of Malfi
>Tristham Shandy
I think that’s it

>>11744597
>are white young men incapable of independent thought? fucking pseuds

>>11746954
how are the annotations on that Faerie Queene? I've been looking around for a good copy

>>11746993
dude it’s unreal, would recommend

>>11744597
Thought you looked old for your age. 14.

>>11746125
it's the glossed text of Beowulf with commentaries

>>11746144
yeah, pic related is the cover of the Hungarian edition

>>11745419
>>11742767


Jesus, this is still up.

Here's another bin rescue.

An 1889 George Meredith
There were 3 others in there but they were just too soaked in trash to save. Cant say i im exited to read them, the Victorians generally bore me, but they alteast look nice on my shelf.

god i feel like such a bum describing this.

>>11747390
>>11745419
>>11746726
You guys are so cool, wish I had cool old books like that.
I'll never be a good enough reader for the book god to grant me an opportunity like that, I'd have to pay several hundred bucks

>>11746115
>Pictures from an Institution

No not yet.
I have his selected letters and from what i gather the reception to that book was atleast part of what killed him. You can see he was gutted...

i find it hard to gage his position in American letters . To me he's much more a critic, but it's clear that Lowell and Bishop and all the rest saw him as equal.

Last year i had an occasion to go out for drinks with a big name professor in a from a big university and he had no idea who RJ was. I sent him some of the poetry, i hope he read him.

>>11744597

vegan and proud wew it felt good to get that off your chest

>>11746168
You got the nicest editions too, genuinely cool

>>11744597
Very good

>>11736984
>anglos prioritise anglo culture
woah no way!

>>11746812
It's a good book. Basically a short, clear exposition of how criticism was practiced up until the middle part of last century (and still is, here and there). Very helpful. His book on Blake Fearful Symmetry is the one to get if youre just beginning to read him, extraordinarily helpful if youre just beginning to read poetry in general as well. Good deal, anon. Youll have no trouble at all reading him.

Was pretty happy to pick these up today, from the 60s or 70s I'd say.

>>11750074
Top's one of the best books ever written, hope the translation's adequate!

>>11747453
>big name professor
It's funny, my sister's an academic, and she's read alot of books, but I know far more about them, have read more, make far less (artisan class), etc. The few people I know who really love books, reading and writing, are as far away from academia as it's perhaps possible to be with a decent education.
I learned about RJ in hs, combing bibliographies, scanning library shelves, picking shit up just to see..
His poetry is wonderfully different, more concrete, rhythmic, and wordy than most of the stuff one's asked to read in a hs English class- and though ultimately difficult, formally friendly to one who's just starting out. Picked up a book of his criticism in college, read Institution when just out, and still look at his verse from time to time. He's a seriously engaging writer on all fronts, but I have not read his Letters. My copy of the novel says it was a nominee for the National Book Award- didn't realize in was a let-down in what I'm guessing was point of sales. Though funny it's relatively subtle- relative to One Fat Englishman or Zuleika Dobson, for instance. Nor does it have that coming-of-age thing that sustains an academic novel like This Side of Paradise. It is funny, but far more 'realistic' than any of those. Perhaps he's now a writer's writer(?) because few wrote as finely as he did in the 20th c.

my stacc

>>11746726
Liked what I'm guessing's the Introduction, then.
The oldest book after the Johnson duo's the Insel (Island) copy on the left, which is a two-part Faust (1890's), given to me by a German prof in college. The oldest Everymans are on the left as well, the shiny Borrow (The Bible in Spain- Borrow's adventures smuggling Spanish language Bibles into Spain mid-19th c when Catholic law made it illegal for the population at large to possess them) is the oldest (1910), the three vol Ruskin is The Stones of Venice (great book) and was printed in 1925. The ones on the right are from the 40's and 50's.

>>11745718
>based vishnu
are you indian?

>>11750653
it's actually shiva and i'm white. you're 0 for 2 buddy.

>>11750518

Wops my mistake, looks like it was his last poetry collection rather then Pictures that did him in.

BTW if you really care i think you can get a free a free rental of the letters at the Archive website. The commentary and letter selection was done by his wife.


He was a exceptional critic. mind you, it got him into trouble and into multi letter and multi column disputes with poets who felt that he was unfair on them --and he could be cruel.
Later many took the opportunity for revenge when it was their turn to review him.

Still, in the often incomprehensible soup of American intellectualism he is wonderfully clear. Funny thing is, i only ever see him referenced by other poets, and that's how i found him.

>>11750074
where did u get these?

>>11752261
2nd hand book shop in Barcelona, only came to 15 euros for the 3