/lit/ - Literature

A worst

Obligatory shill. Went out to a couple guys last time. Still have some copies left.

>>11723465
Rude

Other than his poor pacing, can we admit that Abercrombie is actually a good author? Im rereading the blade itself for the first time in a few years, and while it's taking a while to get going, I find that the characters are engaging enough to carry that. Especially glokta, and also bayaz once you know his actual deal. The world and history are well fleshed out, climatic sequences are well executed, and the dialogue is better than what you get in most grimdark, without going way over the top like Edgelord Lawrence.

>>11723471
Keep to the theme bunnyman. Can you tell us about any feasting or food described in the book?

>>11723465
A best you mean.

>>11723487
One of the guys in the cover is basically a tourist that likes to try everything... while the other guy tends to be leery about food he doesn't recognize and has to be persuaded to eat anything foreign. I don't think there was any feasts, but they do get to eat a bunch.

There's
>sausage, chicken, fresh bread, weird pudding, lasagna, bunch of alcohol and tes
>emergency food mould-porridge
>fish soup and octopus that squirms around when you pour the sauce on it
>corn tortillas, guinea pig, sacred blood biscuits
>SOULS! (I guess it counts)
>slimy mush (birdmen can't chew: their drinks are fine though)
>spicy bread, dates, sugar
>unpalatable mushy alien rations
>mashed potatoes, meatballs, fish
>the main character himself, about twice
and
>more sacred blood biscuits, only this time spiked with acid and fed to like two thousand mutant warriors at once
>oh, and I guess some of those mutant warriors may have subsequently eaten one another, but I didn't put any of this in the text, kind of a missed opportunity I realize

>>11723487
One of the guys in the cover is basically a tourist that likes to try everything... while the other guy tends to be leery about food he doesn't recognize and has to be persuaded to eat anything foreign. I don't think there was any feasts, but they do get to eat a bunch.

There's
>sausage, chicken, fresh bread, weird pudding, lasagna, bunch of alcohol and tea
>emergency food mould-porridge
>fish soup and octopus that squirms around when you pour the sauce on it
>corn tortillas, guinea pig, sacred blood biscuits
>SOULS! (I guess it counts)
>slimy mush (birdmen can't chew: their drinks are fine though)
>spicy bread, dates, sugar
>unpalatable mushy alien rations
>mashed potatoes, meatballs, fish
>the main character himself, about twice
and
>more sacred blood biscuits, only this time spiked with acid and fed to like two thousand mutant warriors at once
>oh, and I guess some of those mutant warriors may have subsequently eaten one another, but I didn't put any of this in the text, kind of a missed opportunity I realize

>>11723465
Rent free

>>11723485
Lawrence is only especially bad with the Prince of Thorns books, his other stuff is pretty tame.

>>11723471
Do the rabbits in your book breed like rabbits?

>>11723688
yeah, i actually dug the red queens war. Snorri is a badass, and actually a pretty funny representation of the Nice Northman trope

Why's this so bad? Is the translation shit or is the guy just a hack? I got to the part with the pipe and everything was written so poorly it almost seemed like parody of amateurish writing.

>Then with all his might he slapped Zhenya who was rubbing his ears with a silly expression on his face

What did he do? Put on fucking clown makeup?

>>11723679
Hello fellow waifufag.

>>11723700
They breed like shadowy, scaredy-cat nightmare creatures in a vaguely rabbit-like physical appearance: find someone that would cast a different enough shadow from you if they ever dared to step into light, take him or her to a nice comfy pitch-black place somewhere underground, and get absolutely silent while doing it. Any noise or illumination can attract predators. Shadows are souls and shouldn't be let outside bodies. Difference is beauty.

You know how really old buildings sometimes make weird noises, bumps and creaks and what have you, and you might see movement in the corner of your eye, or wake up in the morning with this hazy dreamlike state where you think something might be looking at you? If all of that ever stops, there's a fair chance that the creatures responsible for it are fucking.

No human has ever seen it, probably. ...Until in one of the sequels, because I'm a degenerate.

Any good books where the main character has a brother/sister who's actually important for the plot and not just damn decoration or dies in the beginning?

>>11723905
A Song of Ice and Fire.

>>11723905
Dara a waifu

>>11723914
Watched then read. Honestly, after SoS it became a slog.
>>11723921
Muh nigga.

>>11723758
Honestly, only a ruski could really answer. A bad translation can turn a masterpiece into a huge piece a crap, or dramatically improve over a turd.

>>11723932
I've heard a similar thing as a reason to why I could never get into Witcher.

>>11723905
What's this for/about, is it good?

>>11723974
Chronicles of Amber. One of the classics and well worth reading.

>>11723974
Very good. Corwin Cycle, at least.

>>11723974
Zelazny’s Amber books are great. Well, the first series at least. The second is only ok.

>>11723984
>>11723997
I like family drama in my fantasy, what are family dynamics like in Chronicles of Amber?

ITT: Post Amazon-only /sffg/-tier that you enjoyed or disliked.

Also
>reading Lies, Inc.
>the segment with the LSD dart
>the description of LSD
I wish PKD were still around and could churn out more insane sci-fi. I literally was too tired to comprehend it and had to go to sleep.

>>11724055
Worse than Game of Thrones.

Speaking of family drama, what are some incest kino?

>>11724387
Right here, buddy.

Titus Groan. Can't say I expected this. Not counting The Shadow over Innsmouth this is the first fantasy book we've selected, exciting!

i'm almost finished with this. recommend that are similar with a generational ship or just exploring alien ruins

>>11724454
Anywhere we can get the book?

>>11724454
>~100 pages/week
What the fuck!? 50 pages/week was already so tough only like 7 people at most managed it based on the replies in the thread. This won't go well.

>>11724480
We're filtering the plebs out. This is a very serious literature-discussion thread, you know.

>>11724480
I could read the whole Gormenghast series before the deadline. Maybe even in a single week if it's good.

>>11724454
Great choice! Do check out the BBC miniseries as well.

>>11724480
>can't read 100 pages of genre fiction in almost a month

Absolute state of /lit/

>>11723758
It's mainstream pleb-tier shit in russian too. Not worth your time.

>>11723941
Yep, can't imagine the witcher series being decently translatable into any non-slavic language.

>>11724517
Fuck off elitist piece of shit

>>11724590
I see the pleb-filter is going to work out just fine.

Are there any good fantasy novels that doesn't have any faggots or dykes in it?

>>11724472
Online bookstores, your local library, b-ok.org or some other piracy site.

>>11724505
I was given the whole series as a gift a couple of months back and have been meaning to read it since then. Will be fun to read it with /sffg/.

>>11724590
In English 110 I was assigned 100 pages in 2 days

>>11724610
LotR.

>>11724627
Legolas was totally a dyke.

Would you please stop replying to the can't read x pages/week bait?

>>11724642
Legolas is literally Gabriel

>>11724642
Anon, pls.

>>11724643

>>11724387
In the shitty story I'm writing the protagonist fucks his mom since they're nobles and need to keep the bloodline from her side of the family as "pure" as they can. You'll never read it though because I'm too embarrassed by my writing, but take solace in the fact that it exists.

>>11724725
Hot, I want to read it. And I love nobility too.

>>11724725
>>11724743
Disgusting

>>11724643
what else is there to talk about?

>>11724924
The book we're going to read, family drama and incest, bunny breeding, waifus.

>>11724931
>waifus
villainous waifus*

>>11724924
Thread theme is food.

>>11724822
nothing disgusting about the purest form of love.

>>11724970
Don't try to shag your mum anon.

Thoughts?

>isekkai with multiple PoV characters
>goal of the mcs is to open a portal home and stop the servant of the great evil from following
>though bruised and battered they all prevail and activate the mechanism to open the portal
>however, the portal doesn't open on their world, but on a shifting mass of tendrils
>the servant didn't want to bring the great evil into their world, it wanted to bring it into this one
>a tendril reaches out an seizes the MC's wrist
>another portal snaps open in front of the first one and severs his hand at the forearm
>a third opens under the feet of MC#2
>MC#3 tries to catch #2 but a portal opens in fron to him as he moves and he tumbles through.
>MC#4 screams something, but her scream is cut off by a portal opening between her and #1
>4 more portals form a cage around #1, then a fifth opens beneath him and the story ends
>end of book 1

Is it obvious what webcomic I stole this from?

>>11725148
>isekkai with multiple PoV characters

>>11725161
technically that describes Narnia

>>11724725
I'm writing something similar and will eventually post it on Literotica because there's no plot just nudity and sex

>>11723914
it also has a brother/sister who's unimportant to the plot, just damn decoration and dies in the beginning too, tho

>>11725298
Rickon will be king of the North anon.

>>11725304
rickon's alive tho

viserys

>>11725313
Viserys was relevant to the plot, in that because he raised Daenarys we know why she's so autistic.

Blood Music is really fucking good
It's everything the cover and title evoked

>>11725320
visery's entire role was being irrelevant to the plot, that's why he's cool

60% of the second praxis book finished
Still hating every character
Girl MC is literally a murderer
>why don't you drop the series?
No!, I'm almost enjoying my anger.

Where do I go if mobilism doesn't have a book?

>>11725415
IRC client then get on:
IRCHighWay
#ebooks

>>11723485
I didn't have any problem with his pacing. I had problems with almost everything else in the story though.

>>11725419
all the ebook channels are essentially mobilism.
mobilism gets all their shit from there.

>>11725415
you wanna try usenet. no kidding. theres free providers out there that give you like 300kb/s download speed but thats enough for an ebook. if something isnt on mobilism/irc/usenet. then your only option is obscure russian warez sites at the risk of viral infections. they do seem to have fucking everything that was ever posted on the internet though.

>>11724480
You would not last a single term studying literature in college if you cannot read a 300 page novel in a week.

>>11725415
bibliotik?

really enjoyed this series, is the book as good?

>>11725436
>risk of viral infections
your fault for using windows

Your thoughts on the Kingkiller Chronicle?

I started reading Malazan.

>magic is depicted as multi colored ball tossing and lasers
>there is a whole another world of gods and demons that constantly seeps into 'our' own
>situations are often resolved by simply teleporting out of danger into a wormhole of sorts

This is the worst plotting I have read, ever. Makes JK Rowling look competent. And this is all happening in the first third of the Gardens of the Moon. What gives, how did it become so popular? Not to mention that there are such feats of imagination as slightly bigger dogs and giant dragonfly transports.

>>11723485
>admit that Abercrombie is actually a good author

lol of course not, snorted Anon, wincing. There's nothing to admit, only steel speaks truth, he added, rubbing his pockmarked cheeks.

>>11726529
Stick to Harry Potter, kid.

>>11726529
I've been toying with the idea of writing a novel but this gives me hope

>>11726529
If you didn't announce you were reading Malazan I would have no idea what you're describing, and even now I find it hard to connect your bizarre interpretations to the actual content of the books.

>>11726537
Not enough growling or grimacing.

>>11723485
>The world and history are well fleshed out
In what fucking world is Abercrombie's half-assed setting "fleshed out"?
>no map
>such breathtakingly imaginative and original names like "Angland" and "Midderland"
>copy/paste job of indeterminate pre-modern European culture
>no sense of time or distance because narrative jumps arbitrarily between locations and events with no real rhythm
>kingdoms and empires consist of one or two cities surrounded by "countryside" which are devoid of life except for roving armies and occasional bandits capable of moving at warp speed
>majority of all scenes occur within a palace or citadel of some kind, we learn about most events via "reports" (bald faced exposition recited from a character)
>when you finally get a scene that's not in a city you can bet it's going to involve complaining about weather and/or fighting whatever enemies spawn in that area (bandits, Eaters, Northmen, shanka, whatever)
>so much of the series is focused on war yet the author apparently knows fuck all about military history from any era, the military organization of the Union makes no sense and is a random mishmash of different concepts from different eras like he couldn't be bothered to think up something logical
Joe Abercrombie's book series reads like a novelization of a TV show ripping off Game of Thrones. It basically takes every bad thing from the HBO adaptation of Martin's books and then writes a book series based on them. What utter tripe.

>>11725776
Banned for inactivity lmao

>>11725148
>isekkai with...
Stopped reading right there.

>>11726529
I'm not a fan of Malazan, but to actually complain about the FANTASY aspects of an epic fantasy? Supremely retarded. Please head on back to /outerlit/ and never come back.

Recommend a wilderness survival novel with scifi or fantasy elements pls

Anyone else read this?

>>11726907
that mark lawrence guy really likes to review huh

I've asked this before, and someone recommended the genre wuxia / xianxia, but after looking at those types of stories, it's not exactly what I mean. Also forgive the dumb anime and capeshit references, but these are some of the only examples I can find.

I'm looking for stories that involve someone trying to change the nature of reality. For example: Full metal alchemist brotherhood, where the homunculus is trying to become a god, Neon Genesis Evangelion with seele and the human instrumentality project. More recently, Thanos assembling the infinity gauntlet in Infinity War. Somewhat related, with similar feelings: Cults in Lovecraft stories trying to summon outer gods. Vincent in "The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August" building the "quantum mirror". Also the fanfic HPMoR.

I haven't combed through the tvtropes pages for those works, and maybe I'm missing something obvious. Is https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TakeOverTheWorld the closest to what I'm getting at?

>>11725415
>mobilism
Never heard of it t b h. I usually check libgen first, then myanonamouse, then bibliotik.

Last resort is my public library.

Hey guys. Remember me?

>>11726871
Okay, but his first complaint is still completely valid. That's the most boring kind of magic imaginable.

>>11727066
Malazan has some of the most diverse magic you will ever seen in a fantasy series. All kinds of crazy shit. Trapping souls in voodoo dolls, shape shifting into swarms of animals, entire races turning themselves into indestructible undead armies, gravity bombs that doom entire realities to oblivion, plagues of madness that turn people into cannibals, summoning demons from other planes of reality, illusions and mental manipulation. And yes, big fuck off beams and waves of pure energy.

The magic in Malazan isn't rigidly laid out like in Sanderson, but there's logic to it. Or rather several logics. It's not really clear how it all fits together at first but that's Malazan in general. It's impossible to see the big picture because it's so much bigger than the events of the first book, or even the first few books. Erickson never really sits you down and explains things, you just gradually accrue more knowledge and if you pay attention you start to see the shape of things.

>>11727066
>>11727091
Malazan magic - like Malazan in general - is literally based on D&D. So wizards are godlike but also really fucking lame.

>>11727098
>Malazan magic - like Malazan in general - is literally based on D&D
As somebody who had read Malazan entirely and plays D&D regularly, this is not even remotely true. You either have no clue what D&D's magic system is like or else you've never read Malazan. Likely both.

>>11727102
>As somebody who had read Malazan entirely and plays D&D regularly
Why do you put yourself down anon?

>>11727098
Oh you're that one guy who just shitposts about D&D whenever Malazan comes up. D&D's magic is based on the writings of Jack Vance, particularly Dying Earth. Malazan's magic does not resemble it in the least. In fact, Malazan's magic system would probably be impossible to transcribe to a role playing setting because of how chaotic and loosely defined its power sets are.

>>11727102
>read Malazan entirely
>plays D&D regularly
Sheesh, no need to rub it in, we get it.

>>11726725
Good post anon.

>>11727102
>>11727108
But Malazan IS based on a D&D game the author got to play. This isn't something I made up because I don't like the books or D&D: this is an objective, well-known fact.

I'd like to put out a warning;
sometimes Malazan, Book of the Fallen will be shilled by some dudes, but the truth is, it just straight up sucks after the very first book ( Gardens of the Moon ) and degenerates into ever more splintering plotthreads with less and less and less relevance to anything, culminating in the prequel books Forge of Darkness and Fall of Light - wherein the first book has basically nothing happening and the second just expands on secondary and tertiary characters from the first; meanwhile failing to retrospectively craft any kind of interesting narrative concerning the civil war and its causes;

its even worse than the original books, because in the original books scope is usually ground-level footsoldiers for most practical purposes, divorced from the absurdity of imperial administration and politics, while the prequels delve DEEPLY into the people making actual decisions - and all of them are irrationally stupid and retarded

do not waste your time reading those 10+ books.

>>11727108
>Malazan's magic system would probably be impossible to transcribe to a role playing setting because of how chaotic and loosely defined its power sets are.
Not really. You'd just need about a million different kind of spells.

And D&D has about that many.

>>11727115
No it isn't. It was written as a backstory to a GURPs campaign they were running and then eventually became a novel series. You just continually shitpost about it despite not having read the series or knowing anything about D&D.

There has to be something else we can discuss besides that Malazan shitshow and whether it's magic system is D&D or not?
Every fucking general, it's the same group of retards, the same fucking theme and the same fucking retardation. You guys ever get bored?

>>11727134
Thread theme is food. We could talk more about food.

Or Titus Groan that the reading club voted to read, or more family drama stuff, or about those nightmare bunnies that were brought up earlier.

If you truly want us to discuss about something new and meaningful, pick up one of those subjects - or make up one of your own - and go at it. Change begins at yourself.

>>11727141
Don't talk to me man.
Some standards have to be kept.

>>11727147
The hell do you want then? Obviously the shitposting retards and their continuous recycled shitpost topics don't bother you that much after all.

>>11726512

It was an okay read but I was a little disappointed because I was promised "the best fantasy series since lotr" (no shit, someone actually said that to me). My problem with it is that right from the beginning Kvothe is said to be this legendary adventurer but by the end of the first book he's nowhere near to being an adventurer, let alone a supposedly legendary one.

>>11727158
I thought it was a parody until I read the second one and realized the author was serious.

>>11727158
How can you be so retarded anon?

>>11727170

> get promised fantasy and great adventures
> get endless chapters about life in the university

>>11727091
>Malazan has some of the most diverse magic
Why do people complain about the Second Apocalypse then, when it completely obliterates Malazan on the magic front, the world building front, the writing front and the philosophy front?

>>11727050
>tfw no one shills based Bakker any more

>>11727180
Seriously how can you fall so easily for the bait?
First off, it's fantasy so the writing itself won't be all that good. Second, "like LORT but eleventy times better!!!1" is the most used (and abused) line used to peddle fantasy shit. It's never as good as LOTR.

>>11727186
>Why do people complain about the Second Apocalypse then, when it completely obliterates Malazan on the magic front, the world building front, the writing front and the philosophy front?
What the fuck is wrong with you anon?

>>11727194

I get your point about people comparing books to LotR all the time.

However if you set out to read fantasy you expect adventures, right? Even from the very beginning Kvothe is said to be this legendary adventurer. With God knows how many abilities. Yet what you get instead is an endless stream of chapters about life in the University. Only around half through the second book does Kvothe start having actual adventures.

>>11727198
okay forget about the last three things but seriously, the magic of Bakker's world is better than Malazan magic, cmon

>>11724454
>tfw already read it
thank god. look forward to the discussion

>>11727202
Of course you expect adventures. You just got the different kind of adventures, the shitty ones.
And here you tards are, still talking about that crap.

>>11727204
>>11727204
>the magic of Bakker's world is better than Malazan magic, cmon
Who gives a fuck? Your quality of life (and incidentally this general) would improve immensely if people like you would stop beating this dead horse of fantasy.
Also three scoops.

>>11727219
So are you going to offer us something to discuss or are you just here to whine?

>>11727219
you have no valid criticism

just curious, what fantasy and/or sci-fi are you actually into, seeing as you don't seem to want to discuss it here?

>>11727224
But anon my participation is proportional to the quality of the ongoing discussion.

>>11727225
>you have no valid criticism
You talk like a fag and your fantasy shit is all retarded. Thank you.

So you've got nothing and you're worse than any of us. Got it.

Let's shift rails to a different troll, just for a change of pace:
>Boromir is shot with two arrows and keeps fighting
>Booo that's so unrealistic! A single arrow should've dropped him forever!
>Video game character is shot with two arrows, takes off a smidgeon of his health bar
>Wow this is so much fun and realistic! Books sure can't compare!
Riveting.

>>11726894
>>11726065
>no replies
come on guys we're better than this

>>11727346
>we're better than this
We really aren't.

If you want to actually discuss a scifi or fantasy work, you're better off making a thread of its own for it. Leave the shitposting here.

>>11724462
Try some Alastair Reynolds

>>11726065
It's okay, but only a little repetitive after the seventh book.

>>11726601
You should really browse around for all of the filth that's being (self-)published to get your hopes up. Shameless self-insert power fantasy harem indulgence, where the main character is a failed sci-fi writer who suddenly gets magical powers and the like.

>>11726907
Yes. I enjoyed it.

>>11726894
Hunter's Run?

>>11727361
>Shameless self-insert power fantasy harem indulgence, where the main character is a failed sci-fi writer who suddenly gets magical powers and the like.
And somehow with a dozen rave reviews.

>>11727363
And even an audiobook adaptation.

>>11727346
I'm not well read enough in the genres to have anything to say.

>>11727262
The books are long enough that I don't remember that specific scene. Did they detail where he was shot? There is a huge difference between being hit in the head twice and getting hit in your hand or arm.

>>11727392
In the chest. Even that should be enough to essentially paralyze you out of pain and shock.

>>11727141
>Or Titus Groan that the reading club voted to read
Will be fun to see how many make it through. It's quite different from what we've read before.

>>11726065

I liked it a lot at first, its kind of a refreshing pop sci-fi that gets a lot harder than most scifi you'll see, and I sincerely like the idea that the MC is considered a fuck up in-universe, and that's remarked more upon since you get more thoughts, my favorite being "Did he really think a hat and a beard was an actual disguise?"

>>11727401
I've been meaning to read it for a while now, so it winning the vote made for a good excuse to do just that. I don't plan to quit either.

>>11726512

I really liked the first book, then I read the second and thought somehow I accidentally bought a printout of someone's lemon fanfic that combined naruto and the Belgariad.

>>11727260
Get the fuck out of this thread then if you have no contribution.

>>11726894
The Postman
Bird Box (to some extent)
Earth Abides
The Drowned World (to some extent)
Roadside Picnic
Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang

>>11724454
Is there a full list of books we've read in the somewhere? Don't want to browse through the archives

>>11727417
>Bird Box
The fuck? That shit is about wilderness and survival as much as walking to the grocery store.

>>11726894
The Straggler's Mask has survival elements.

>>11727191
I thought bakker himself shilling here was a joke but now i believe it

>>11724462
Rendezvous with Rama?

99% you've read it already

>>11726894
Idk how much magic is in it but Shaman by Robinson has a bunch of survival

>>11727395
While it does seem like a stretch we've had situations where a man had to gnaw his arm off and hike to safety after being stuck in in an avalanche or something. I'm sure there have been instances where men have fought with a punctured lung in a life and death sitiation.

Is wuxia/xianxia Chinese isekai?

>>11727134
I too wish /sffg/--and the majority of the website as a whole--were not chock full of literal underage children.

>>11727893
Can't be helped. If we manage to reach even one of these kids, and direct them to good fantasy, then the shitposting will have been worth it.

>>11727888
Isekai is when a person is taken from his regular world and put in a new one, pretty much self-insert the genre. Wuxia/xianxia has nothing to do with that since it's just set in a different world.

There was that one isekai webnovel though, some romance thing with a female MC who was transported into the world of a webnovel she had been reading as a side character that she knew was going to be killed.

>>11724454
I began yesterday. The vocabulary in this one is very extensive, I had an easier time reading John Donne than this. English is not my first language, any natives reading it? How does that compared with what you're used to?
That's not to say I dislike what I've read so far, in fact I love it. Can't wait to hear what you guys have to say about it when it's done.
Also, don't get the illustrated version, the drawings are fairly bad and distracting.

>>11727134
what is she doing

>>11727986
Exercising.

>>11727902
Kids?
You are talking about 25+ year old losers here. When you factor in the job or the school, training, personal life, etc. who has the time to burn through dozen or more badly written fantasy door stoppers time and time again?
Ain't nobody got time for that.
Freeze Frame Revolution, the new book by Peter Watts, the crazy Canadian that a lot of posters here love, has been mentioned here maybe half a dozen times.
But the differences of Malazan magic system as compared to D&D or GURPS - every fucking general.

>>11728098
>who has the time to burn through dozen or more badly written fantasy door stoppers
That's exactly what we're here for - recommend the best, warn about the ones that are just waste of time or worse!

>>11728105
Every and I do mean every thread?
No fucking thank you. Just how many times you can see posts about the Malazan, or the Black Company, not to mentioned the retards bringing up their badly written fantasy waifus before you say enough?
Now while I might not be able to prevent this general from turning into /a lite (as a lot of retards here feel the most comfortable) I can point out just how much of a fuck-up they individually are.

>>11728098
That's why I'm going to go straight to writing my own so I'm sure I haven't been influenced by anybody else

>>11728166
Good luck anon. I am sure that the time you spent here will help you write a classic.

>>11728181
If you all start using fake names when you post here I can just make a drama based on the general

>>11727888
There are xianxia isekai novels, Reverend Insanity is both isekai and second chance for example. And it's amazing, way better than most Japanese isekai.

>>11728184
Why fake? Anyway, I think Malazan book of the Fallen is a decent series, especially considering its length.

>>11728299
Good enough to actually bother sticking with it for so many books, though, when you could instead read like five good books?

>>11728324
Why not both? Or are you the guy who can't even read 50 pages/week.

>>11728330
I can read pretty quick when I want to (at least 60 pages a week!), but I also have a bunch of other things I'd rather do.

>>11724454
welp that gives me motivation to make it past the first 100 pgs then

>>11726725

>>11727091
I heard that half the soldiers in every army is a woman and it turned me off the series.

>>11728693
Those are some pretty dumbass names if you ask me.

As far as maps go, it's pretty uninspiring and doesn't invite me to explore the setting at all.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/9cmw0s/thoughts_on_brandon_sanderson/ sure are a lot of people translating sanderson books these days

>>11728768
I could see a bunch of foreign publishing companies having woken up to his popularity at the same time.

>>11728729
The only one I find particularly bad is the Old Empire, who the fuck names their empire the Old Empire.

>>11728781
Maybe they were unimaginative.

>>11728808
After what period of time did they decide to add "Old" to their Empire's name, presumably it was just called "Empire" before this monumental decision.

>>11728824
Probably when some king or emperor decided he wanted to emphasize how venerable they are.

>>11728824
Probably when they were trying to fuck some cute teenage country put only got their flag up to half mast?

>>11723456
>>What are your favorite sff books with feasts?
Asimov's "Black widowers" series, though they are more mystery than SFF.

>>11724498
All 3 books in a week? Maybe if you had literally nothing else to do.

2 > 1 > 3.

>>11728841
heh

>>11728693
>Da Norf
woah...

>>11727262
Boromir is descended from superhumans

>>11728716
>triggered

>>11729222
I mean it's not that terrible on its own, but it's still a pretty clear sign on where the author's priorities lie. Anyone too concerned of social justice and modern sensibilities is fundamentally unable to write good fiction.

>>11729222
Yea unapologetically so, half an army being female is so retarded it hurts.

>>11729231
>>11729332
Maybe they aren't actually women, maybe they are trannies.

>>11729343
>work safe

>>11729343
Nice

>>11729487
Where the fuck do you work if half a ball isn't safe?

>>11729343
source

Is that one anon here I talked into ordering the first trade of Prophet? Curious if he read it yet and liked it.

>>11729535
>half a ball
That's her clitty you insensitive oaf.

>>11729594
No idea sorry.

>>11729609
Seeing John Prophet the trap version was weird as fuck.

>>11729619
>Seeing John Prophet the trap version was weird as fuck.
Usually that kinda stuff would make me cringe, but the universe/timeline the comic takes place in makes it tolerable because everything else is so weird and crazy.

>>11729631
But not nonsensical. All other versions were products of adaptions to certain environments, as stated in the comic, in order to perform their function better (mostly killing everything in sight).
Except for the trap. Unless his boypussy is venomous or something.

>>11726065
The books are alright. Fun reads, at least the first time around. Character development isn't really there in the first few, though, the show did a better job at that.

>>11729609
>Prophet has starred in three ongoing series bearing his name; these monthlies debuted in 1993, 1995, and 2012, respectively. A fourth series, named Prophet: Earth War, began in January 2016.
I hope you specified which version he should read, anon!

>>11729854
Go with all of them? It sounds like they might be a bit short.

>>11729866
The '93 and '95 series have absolutely nothing to with the 2012 one.

Anyone who practices magic should be extinguished.

>>11729876
FUCK MAGIC

>>11730090
>says "fuck magic"
>is clearly wielding magical weapons

>>11730090
His anti-magic is still magic.

The last chapter was surprisingly depressing.
I really wanted to imagine a world with the Dark Ones/Human symbiosis and healing of wounds
Is the rest of the series of the same calibre ? I've heard they are subpar.

>>11730255
I am in the middle of 2034 (and have been for some time) but as I recall I didn't notice any drop in quality. Also that's not the end of the Dark Ones .

Someone upload the bunny-fucker novel

>>11728693
>Westport
>is in east

>>11730638
>West Virginia
>Is on the East coast

Can someone recommend some scifi/fantasy related podcasts or youtube channels that aren't annoying as shit? Most seem to go out of the way to pander to the pc crowd. I just want to hear about cool books.

>>11730555
If you can't afford the four dollars for it (or don't want to support Amazon, which I guess I can understand) but live in the U.S., it's currently in a giveaway:
https://www.goodreads.com/giveaway/show/283512-the-straggler-s-mask

I might upload it once the KDP Select enrollment period is over - unless someone else decides to go for it before then.

>>11730669
Pewdiepie

>>11730344
Thanks for the rec, I'll try to check it out.
Right now I aim to finish the Three-Body-Problem, Tome II.

Fuck Sanderson. Way of Kings was a slog but it was decent and I thought he improved. Words of Radiance was worse and fucking Oathbringer was irredeemable trash. People kept saying that he improved but that ended up being a blatant lie. DROPPED

>>11730774
If you've been here any time at all, you should know what kind of a hack Sanderson is. No point bringing it up anymore.

>yfw you realized epic fantasy was the pleb choice for readers AND writers

>>11730809
What kind of fantasy is the patrician's choice?

>>11730826
Anything by Guy Gavriel Kay.

anyone know what happened to Micheal-Scott Earle? from what ive gathered shit like this went down:
>increadibly successful to the point where he makes about 200k a month from kindle unlimited alone
>turns out hes been fooling the KU system so his books have way higher pagecount than in reality
>get kicked off kindle and all that remains are his audiobooks
>after contacting amazon they tell him you can come back on but no more shenanigans and you need to have a publisher
>he proceeds to create a publisher and gets on for like 2 days before being kicked out again
>no more news on anything

theres also this bit about where he is associated with the chick from cockygate and he also tried to copyright generic fantasy guy posing with weapon on his covers.

beyond that theres nothing new. does anyone know whats currently happening?
i mean its good that he got burned for padding out his book and possible hiring clickfarms for CU(pure speculation since the people he knows are known for this). but i really wanna know how tamer continues and the destroyer kinda grew on me.

>>11730788
there are a lot of people who defend Sanderson

>>11730826
Heroic Fantasy.

>>11731005
>Heroic Fantasy.
Cool, I'm patrician.

>>11731005
Look what you've done.

>>11731028
I did what needed doing.

about 2/3rds of the way through Void Star, anyone else read it? I can't stand it and might abandon it for Zero K. feels muddled up with contradictions

>>11730898
Last message on facebook suggests he' still in the shitter. Honestly, I don't think he's coming back. At least not to KU. Perhaps he can go back to amazon, but I think only if he can get a publisher.

Is Nine Princes in Amber not on Kindle or am I just being retarded?

>>11731184
i never knew about the padding issue since i really mostly just pirate stuff.
all this stuff was completely news to me and only afterwards have i found out that the ebooks on pirate sites are completely differently formated than the ku and amazon ebooks. i dont take his books too seriously i mean they arent anything special just fun little romps that you read in between something more professional. but its sad to see him gone. will a publisher even take a chance on him? i mean he had a huge fucking fanbase to begin with and was featured as NYT bestselling author multiple times. but i mean look at what he tried to copyright.
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=88026770&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
it was withdrawn but that was kinda lame. still i really want to know how his books continue. theyre fun little time wasters and even if they are really just a male power fantasy they sorta leave you wanting for more.

>>11731217
>http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=88026770&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
Hehehe, I wasn't aware of that one, but I know he also tried to trademark "Dragon Slayer", which is silly, since at least 50% of fantasy features a dragon slayer or another and there's many, many other books with this same title.

I feel the same as you do. Little time wasters that I'll miss, but not so much that I'd pay for it (individually, I do have a KU account).

>>11731190
I see it on Kindle for $6

>>11731287
It's not available in my country until book 5 for some reason.

>>11731217
>>11730898
Here's a scammer and I doubt his self reported claims about his sales and income.

>>11730898
Absolute madman

>>11731293
his sales where from a tool that measures kindle sales he lied through his teeth about those. way undrrepresenting them.
he made so much bank that half of his series were written by ghoswriters who came out after this shit went down.
he made fucking bank. 200k a month was from KU alone. thats not factoring in kindle sales and promotions.

Is the Liveship Traders Trilogy good?

I liked the The Farseer Trilogy.

>>11723456
Why are all Hugo and Nebula winners these days so shit? Just picked pic related up. All of the stories in here are fucking awful and science-free. Moreover, some of them spend pages talking about irrelevant diversity shit like Jewish culture, being asian, being in a gay relationship, etc. Pages out of a 10 page short story.

Like fuck. Where is the science in science fiction?

>>11731416
Forgot my pic

>>11731416
Don't pretend you don't know why, anon. They only give those shit awards to the most 'woke' writers.

>>11731416
This is life under occupation

>>11731313
In a thread two weeks ago I shared some thoughts on the farseer trilogy and was persuaded to move on to liveship traders. I'm about halfway through the final book. I liked them as much or more than the first trilogy. For me I found the farseer trilogy was less interesting with each book but I was invested enough in the characters to want to finish. With liveship I feel like the books each cover new ground and even if Hobb still can't quite do subtle foreshadowing at least it's not as bad as farseer where she literally reused the same chapter intro topics 50x. I made the mistake of reading a spoiler which revealed a fairly minor point plot which I wish I'd been left to discover on my own. The books are very tangentially in the same world, so you won't be seeing lots of familiar names or places. The setting is quite fun, pirates and sailing and whatnot. The family politics are more interesting and dynamic then in farseer and people also evolve into new roles which makes the character development feel better. There's still a 'regal' figure of an incompetently evil family member always causing harm.

Sorry for the scattered thoughts, I wasn't planning on posting until I finished the trilogy. I don't feel qualified to say if it was 'good' but I thought it was fun and as someone who read it because I also enjoyed farseer I'd recommend you check it out. The books go by pretty quick and if you're not a fan you don't need to finish the trilogy

>>11731581
I guess one other thing that might be important to you. I really only like one of the characters. I find most of them annoying. In the first book I liked the wolf and the fool and the old assassin. I know some people prefer books where they could see the characters as friends or at least not see them as dicks. Don't get me wrong I'm enjoying the trilogy but it's not like a game of thrones where when she shifts to a new perspective I'm really excited to see how my favorite character is doing.

Also she does a lot more shifted narration and multiple viewpoints in this trilogy than she does in farseer. I don't have a strong opinion on it but it's something you might want to be aware of.

>>11731416
Science is white supremacy now.

>>11723905
Flora a best

>>11731829
i wish you were joking but its literally true.
i overheard some black kids the other day on the train on my way to work talking about how their teacher was racist because facts are an invention of the white man to keep a bortha down.

>>11732086
They were right.

>>11731416
If only there was another award, award that focused on quality... with blackjack and hookers.

>>11732323
Forget the awards!

If you want some prime DICK then read Lies, Inc.
>tfw can't talk about 90% of PKD with /sffg/

I'm going to recommend The Caltraps of Time by David I. Masson--a collection of all of Masson's short stories as he only wrote sci-fi short stories.

>>11723456
Why does no one ever talk about the space graveyard at the end of 2001?

>>11732651
But how would I know which author is better and therefore more deserving of a movie contract?

>>11732691
Because that was not a graveyard. Seeing that spaceship built out of solid gold - that was an opportunity my man.

>>11732323
Are those lewd illustrations she drew of herself? This picture confuses me.

>>11732708
Are big tiddies confusing you?

Best boy

This is unironically the best science fiction novel that I've ever read.

>>11726512
Don't start reading before it's certain the 3rd volume will be published.

>>11732884
>>11732940
Fags.

They don't do artworks like they used to.

>>11732983
Stop the bully

>>11732983
Yes?

>>11731416
Ideological fanaticism. Awards are given to the wokest authors. Stick to the classics.

Any books about joining a cult?

>>11733068
The Bible.

>>11733003
You have to go back.

>>11733034
Go back to sucking dick in the public toilet.

>>11733001
They really don't.

>>11733068
What kind of cult? There are so many to choose from.

>>11733075
Based

>>11723456
>What are your favorite sff books with feasts?
The Durdane trilogy, by who else but Jack Vance. The Feast of Forty-Five Dishes.
>Is there a food item you've read about that you have always wanted to try?
>Have you tried it yet? Were you disappointed/pleased?
Vance lists several brands of beer in one of the Demon Princes novels. I was pleased to find that nearly all of them exist here on Earth and tried all but a Tahitian beer.

>>11732707
Spaceship of solid gold? Now I've got to dig out my bluray and watch yet again...

>>11733457
Solid 'effin gold. Some aliens ply the space in style.
From the book:
"Then he forgot the derelict, for something was coming up over the horizon.
At first it looked like a flat disk, but that was because it was heading almost directly toward him. As it
approached and passed beneath, he saw that it was spindle-shaped, and several hundred feet
long. Though there were faintly visible bands here and there along its length, it was hard to focus
upon them; the object appeared to be vibrating, or perhaps spinning, at a very rapid rate.
It tapered to a point at either end, and there was no sign of propulsion. Only one thing about it was
familiar to human eyes, and that was its color. If it was indeed a solid artifact, and not an optical
phantom, then its makers perhaps shared some of the emotions of men.
But they certainly did not share their limitations, for the spindle appeared to be made of gold."

>>11726894
Day by day Armageddon:Beyond Exile

>>11732687
I still haven't gotten through his works. Ubik was a pheomenal read and there was some other book of his I read that I don't remember the name of I really enjoyed. I've been reading his short story collections recently, 2 out of 5 or so so far and I really enjoy them as well.

I'll get back to you when I've finished them all but it'll take some time since I like changing theme, genre and/or author after each book I read.

Is there a PKD chart floating around?

>>11727000
Oh, boy, you're lucky I saw this, cuz I've got some recommendations for ya;

The Passage Trilogy by Justin Cronin *

The black company

A cavern of black ice(sword of shadows series)*

The earthsea series

Kafka on the Shore*

The name of the wind

Roadside picnic*

>>11727117
Thanks kōhai

hear me out

>side character is a manic pixie dream girl
>the manic side is revealed to be the a result of amphetamine addiction
>the story is a rabbithole fantasy where she is one of the characters stuck in a fantasy world
>it's while she's there that her supply runs out

>>11733742
>she wakes up at a rehabilitation clinic if she's lucky, or in a Venezuelan whorehouse if she's not
Not very fantastic.

>>11733752
the idea is that she has to kick it while still fighting her way through giant spiders and ghouls

9 Princes of Amber was pretty gud.

>>11733883
Amber and Tigana are some of the very few fantasy books I rarely (if ever) see criticized here at all.

Are there any others that /sffg/ can more or less unanimously agree to be good?

>>11733936
Robert. E. Howard.

>>11733936
Lotr & Lions of al Rassan

>>11733597
A small one at least.

>>11723905
Yes. Malazan Book of the Fallen, though Paran being the "main character" isn't REALLY true, considering its an ensemble cast story, and if anything his sister Tavore becomes more important than him by the end.

>>11733082
I didn't have anything specific in mind. I just want to read about someone's changing mental state as they get sucked in more.

>>11733936
Probably because nobody read them. I can shit on amber (first book only) all you want.

>>11733936
Sarah. J. Mass.

>>11734115
top meme

>>11733597
It's a project of mine to read all that he wrote and then make a comprehensive chart. It might take a while though.

>tfw you read Dune and see Herbert quote directly the "anal sex verse" from Quran in a convo between Muad-Dib and Chani...

Baqara verse 223: "Your wives are your tilth; go, then, into your tilth as you wish"

Herbert: "You told me once the words of Kitab al-Ibar," he said. "You told me: woman is thy field, go then to thy field and till it."

>pic related

>>11733068
There's one literally called The Cult. Iirc it was pretty good but I read it when at like 11 so who knows

I haven't read book 3 yet but holy shit Lizanne is the biggest Mary Sue I've ever seen. Even anime/manga gives these types superficial "flaws" like being autistic or sociopathic or something, but nah she's got a compassion, social skills and beauty on top of being a genius invincible super soldier
Still pretty good books, but anyone have any good recs for series with no femmes fatales?

>>11734334
>anyone have any good recs for series with no femmes fatales?
Most of the things we usually like should qualify?

>>11733936
I can criticize Amber series 2 a lot. (Even tho I still kind of liked it). The best I can say about Tigana is that it was ok. I didn’t get drawn in at all.

>>11727262
>moviefags acting like they read the book ever

>>11735040
In the book Boromir took even more arrows, so if anything it's worse.

>>11733493
I should really reread the book instead of watching the bluray, this here being /lit/ and all. I'm Sure it's one of the details Kubrick didn't pick up upon

>>11732884
>Julian
I can abide by this.

>>11734166
Why does everyone post the game cover?

>>11732940
sell me on it in two paragraphs or less.

The Amber tv show will be good, r-right guys?

>>11735206
I think in that post it was because the worm looked like a butt and he was talking about anal sex

>>11731313
Yeah it's basically required if you're reading the whole shebang. And I don't see why you would skip it since it's good fun. Wish I could find some more like Hobb...

>>11733742
mite b cool
depends on what goes on in the fantasy world with respect to her being really high or being in a down period etc

can i write an above mediocre scifi short stories with subpar english skills?

>>11736380
Yes, but only if you're a woman or non-white. If you're either of those things (or both for extra points) then not only will your shitty story be published, but you'll also win at least one award.

>>11736394
good thing i'm nonwhite, i'm not aiming for anything published though

>>11736394
holy shit stop whining you triggered little bitch

>>11736401
lol this soi incel working xerself into a fucking shoot.

>>11736422
>triggered bitch continues to insist how NOT MAD they are and continues to virtue signal

>>11730647
but its west to Virginia, you autistic cunt

>>11734334
It sounds kinda ok so I might check it out.
You could read Roger Zelazny’s Amber series. I also liked Vurt by Jeff Noon which is written like cyberpunk but it’s is fantasy with a unique magic system.

>>11735815
Is that still a thing? I haven’t seen news about it for a couple of years.

>>11736457
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>11727050
Fuck yeah, the best thing I have gotten out of /lit/ in a while has been Bakker. I read the entire series in the spring, what a ride. Truth shines.

>>11736488
Brainlet

>>11729343
>tfw you'll never meet an insecure older guy who likes to crossdress and make him feel good for a night

why even fucking bother

>>11736394
>it's not my fault no one gives a shit about my terrible writing, it's those sjw marxist jews pushing their kultural markscism
ur a faget

>>11737164
See: >>11736401

new thread please

>>11737698
I made the last one. Your turn.

>>11737704
so youre the one who fucked up

>>11738058
The one before that.

>reeee kovthe is a mary sue

>worse than all the masters at everything
>can't beat a 10 year old adem girl, struggles to beat a few random thugs who were posioned when he had the element of suprise
>worse alar than devi
>random old women in village has better knowledge of medicine than him


the only thing he's exceptional at is music

>>11738066
>lying in an anonymous imageboard

>>11738161
>prodding at everyone else to do a new thread, then whining when they do it wrong

>>11738179
? im not him

>>11738231
Either way, no one seems inclined to make a new thread.

I guess /sffg/ has come to the end of its days.

>>11738233
rip

>>11738179
>Ah bloo bloo
Fruitcake

>>11738308
>Fruitcake
What does that even mean?

>>11738323
Cake with fruit in it soaked in Scotch.

>>11738456
Okay, but why bring it up in this context?

>>11738475
Because he's nutty as a fruitcake.

>>11727361
>Hunter's Run?

Thanks, just finished it after this recommendation and it scratched that itch

>>11727417
>>11727487
>>11727860
>>11733535
>The Postman
>Bird Box (to some extent)
>Earth Abides
>The Drowned World (to some extent)
>Roadside Picnic
>Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang
>The Straggler's Mask
>Shaman by Robinson
>Day by day Armageddon:Beyond Exile

Thanks anons, gonna dig through this list

Like, new thread.
Or whatever.
>>11738648
>>11738648
>>11738648