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Kant

This is now a trolley problem thread

>>11661480
did kant steal his entire philosophy from plato? haven't read a word of him btw

>>11661271
Shouldn’t there just be a blurry picture?

>>11661544
Let the bodies hit the.....FLOOOOOOOOOOORRRRR

>>11661511
Kek. It also works on a deeper level as a metaphor for professors of philosophy duping their students in to their course with no job prospects to save their own job

>>11661488

that's dumb, obviously you still bear the responsibility for that person's life

>>11661511

that's dumb

>>11661574

that's dumb, the trolley would just go over the fat dude and the second guy would still have to make a choice

YES I WOULD PULL THE LEVER!

>>11661627
nice bait

>>11661502
no

These threads are always cringe. Stop posting shit made by retards for their epic sadboi Facebook pages unless you want me to fucking rape you

>>11661755
these memes are funny most of the time, contrarianfag.

>>11661649
lol

>>11661746
unironically based.

Here is a epic meme from Reddit, also can someone tell me why Schopenhauer is the only one not smiling

>>11661840
doesn't look like you're familiar with his philosophy

Good template

>>11661780
They’re not. They activate cum recognition receptors in low iq people’s brains. “Durrr me seen that before me understand meme me rewarded for being mr smartypants :)))”

I Like facebook memes

>>11661851
Im still on the greeks

>>11661870
I like it

IF you like any of these pictures you’re not human. You’re disease

>>11661907
Kek

>>11661907
Upvoted

>>11661813
>>11661893
>>11661904
fantastic

>>11661888
keked at uncle bighat
other ones could use some work

what's a good work to start with? all i've read is some of Nietzsche out of the viking portable library copy i own and my diary desu my marcus aurelius

>>11661990
Start with the Greeks

>>11661990
There are three paths ahead of you:
The Presocratic Philosophers
The Confucian Analects
The Upanishads
choose wisely

>>11661990
If you have no specific interests: Plato. The Apology is the classic starting place but really Plato can be read in any order.

If you have a specific interest, pursue it. Get secondary texts if you need to. The idea of reading philosophy chronologically is stupid. You'll spend years reading shit you might not even find stimulating.

>>11661511
spurted coffee through my fucking nose

>>11661840
Somehow they all have that Sartre look.

>>11661940
Total pseudastry. He has far more important works! Pic related, it's from my library.

>>11661746
Lmao

>>11661840
Someone post the grug version

>>11661860
humor in general makes people feel better about themselves anyway

>>11662411
i was purple cat when i was 6. i still remember it.

>>11662492

>>11661488
>1488
I guess the question we should be asking is whether or not the guy killed is a nigger.

>>11661488
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAh8HryVaeY

>>11662551

>>11661940

>>11663465
Kek. This one always gets me

>>11663465
my sides

>>11661502
He came up with an original synthesis of Hume and Leibniz. Didn't completely pull his philosophy out of his ass but nevertheless came up with several groundbreaking developments.

>>11661544
Just walk away my dude.

>>11661888
tip top kek
had a hearty laugh

>>11661907
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>11661963
Okay, this is epic

>>11662012
Kek

>>11661450
fpbp

>>11661488
Nice digits.

>>11661480
Seriously though, what mechanisms make this possible, and is it accessible? Is it really too complex, or is it uncomplex but politically frightning?

What the hell, Luigi, you can see what fortune can do to men. You had just finished fucking your woman when you want another one. I've been in Modena for several days when I came across an old woman who washes my shirts. She asked me to come into her hovel because she wished to show me some fine shirts. Innocent prick that I am I went in. There was a woman over in the corner. "This is the shirt that I wanted to sell you," the hag said. I was terrified. But I fucked her. I found her thighs flabby and her cunt damp. Her breath stank. But I was horny. When I was finished I took a torch and looked at her. I nearly dropped dead. The woman was ugly. She had a tuft of hair on her head but her head was bald. Her forehead was scarred. One eye looked up, the other down. Her eyes were filled with mucus, and she had no eyebrows. Her nose was twisted into a funny shape. Her mouth looked like Lorenzo de' Medici's but was bent to one side. She was toothless and saliva drooled out of her mouth. Her upper lip had a moustache. I looked at her stupefied. "What's the matter sir?" she asked me. As soon as she opened her mouth, such a stench came out that my eyes and my nose were assaulted and my stomach indignant. They could not bear it, and I vomited all over her.

>>11661888
>always create problem
lmao

>calling image macros "memes" on 4chan

This place has come full circle and really is beyong hope now.

>>11662006

This isn't even wrong.

>>11661780

>>11661840
He just wants some pringles

>>11664945
>now

keep posting trolley problems

Posting this again. Probably my favorite philosophy meme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-Wlb9UHY5I

>>11661755
>he wasn't here for the trolley thread
Newfags should shut up, honestly.

>>11665373
wheres the regular guys quote from?

>>11665652
Kierkegaard - "Either/Or"

>>11665652
my boy kierkegaard nigga u fo real

only philosophy meme i have

do the test and post results faggots

http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=PhilosophyGuys

>>11665716

>>11665716
I don't even know how this is lmao

Anyone have the Utilitarian death squads meme?

>>11665716
that doesn't even make sense

>>11661488
>1488
How would he do it? What is the final solution to the trolley question?

>>11665716
meh

>>11666185
YEAH fuck plato

>>11665716
hmmm

Aristotle (100%)
Kant (100%)
Sextus Empiricus (100%)
Hume (77%)
Augustine (70%)
Plato (70%)
Protagoras (54%)
Nietzsche (31%)
Aquinas (0%)

Ha what? So Aristotle, Sextus and Kant are 100% in agreement?! So what exactly were the last 2000 years about?

>>11661488
Yes, the trolly remains the same in essence, though it is composed of new substance. The essential nature of the trolly is that which distinguishes it from all other things - in this case circumstances such as time and space factor in, as well as telos (the direction of the object towards some ultimate end) and even concept (external perception of the object). The trolly itself is ontologically conceptual (as are the parts that comprise it individually) but also ontoligically real, and our perception of the trolly and its parts depends on this reality. The trolly remains conceptually the same; its the trolly that set off on the track at that place and time toward the end of the track, but its physical attributes are replaced, making it different materially.

>>11661755
But if I want you to rape me then it isnt rape... unless i want it now but wont want it later... but then would it still count as rape if i gave consent for a single act once but then regret it? Can consent simply be retracted like that or is it... dare i say... a social contract???

>>11665716

>>11666234
I've taken this test three times and although the others move around I'm always 100% Agustine and 0% NEETzsche.

>>11665432
kek

>>11664713
Waluigi is the ultimate example of the individual shaped by the signifier. Waluigi is a man seen only in mirror images; lost in a hall of mirrors he is a reflection of a reflection of a reflection. You start with Mario – the wholesome all Italian plumbing superman, you reflect him to create Luigi – the same thing but slightly less. You invert Mario to create Wario – Mario turned septic and libertarian – then you reflect the inversion in the reflection: you create a being who can only exist in reference to others. Waluigi is the true nowhere man, without the other characters he reflects, inverts and parodies he has no reason to exist. Waluigi’s identity only comes from what and who he isn’t – without a wider frame of reference he is nothing. He is not his own man. In a world where our identities are shaped by our warped relationships to brands and commerce we are all Waluigi.

>>11661840
>plato pointing up, ari down
Based

>>11661840
>newton and darwin
>but no einstein or heisenberg
Not based

>>11666273
didn't even know it was possible more than one at 100%

>>11665716
I am objectively correct

>>11666490
look at the guy above you, lol

>>11666454
>>11666490
just out of curiosity, are you both christians? pretty good top5

>>11666500
I'm a theist but not a Christian.

>>11665716

>>11661622

Nietzsche (100%)
Kant (88%)
Hume (75%)
Aristotle (63%)
Plato (38%)
Protagoras (38%)
Sextus Empiricus (38%)
Augustine (13%)
Aquinas (0%)

Rate.

>>11666416
A degree in philosophy makes you views kind of weird.

>>11666614
Or it takes a college education for somebody to be so confused

>>11661840
Would have been perfect if Schopenhauer had his poodle.
Schopenhauer was a pessimist that fucking hated everyone except for his poodle, that's why he's not smiling

>>11666640
I'd be surprised if it didn't take a philosophy degree specifically. Although a masters is probably sufficient.

>>11661940
it's not wrong

>>11666500
Yes I'm Christian

>>11665716

>>11661959
underrated

>>11664695
It's just a less evolved idea of instincts. Human consciousness isn't some kind of objective viewpoint. We are driven by biological functions which bias our interpretation of reality. It's only really frightening if you're a subconcious solipsist

>>11665395
DELET

>>11666999
Digits!

>>11665716
As an atheist, this surprised me. Wish there were more options. Would been nice to Marxist or wittgesteinian questions in there.

>>11666999
fucking hell those digits

>>11664930
Heh

>>11665384
Heh

>>11661813
Audibly laughed at this, bud

>>11665716
go away cia

Post more Zizek.

>>11667422
why did I read that in Zizek's voice while touching my face repeatedly?

>>1167000

>>11665716
NIETZSCHE BTFO

GOD IS REAL AND ALIVE

>>11665716
I've never read anything by Nietzsche lol

>>11664453
Ok that's retarded

>>11664453
That’s the exact opposite of what Kant would say

>>11669034
not at all (I didn't post the pic)

>>11669052
I thought the categorical imperative would imply that pulling the lever is the correct ethical choice as it could be a universal maxim. Sparing 5 lives and killing one should be a rule applied to everyone. If everyone watched 5 people die and didn’t act that would be a poor universal maxim.

>>11661999
>The Confucian Analects
vomit

>>11661627
>the trolley would just go over the fat dude

obviously the implication is that the fat dude stops the trolley

I don't get it, is Kant edgier than Nietzsche?

>>11669147
The universal maxim is not taking action and killing. The trolley problem is a critique of Kant. Kant's proposition is in fact a poor universal maxim.

>>11661963
accurate

>>11661488
If you kill a man, flee from the police for eight years and every cell in your body has been replaced, are you still the culprit?

>>11661990
read Hume and compare with Nietzsche

>>11666528
this man lives in the real world

>>11666594
syphilitic edgelord

>>11669431
statute of limitations bro

>>11661488
Unless it's made of the same atoms, then no. The trolley is different.

Doesn't mean you didn't kill him tho.

>>11669147
Wrong. By trying to take destiny into your own hands, you're becoming responsible for the consequences.

>>11664037
>>11664453
absolute trash

>>11665716
Very easy

>>11666361
ah yes youve seen the painting by rafel too... fellow cultered man ...

>>11669506
>US statute of limitations is 7 years
>the average time it takes for all the cells in your body to get replaced is 7 years
Holy shit

Still, the question is whether you did it or not, not whether you can be taken to court

>>11665716
>tfw athiest

>>11661627
>STOP THIS SKETCH, IT'S SILLY, AND I HAVE NO FUNNY LINES

>>11669506
>>11669583
There is no statue of limitations on murder in most US jurisdictions. However the law had nothing to do with morality.

>>11661879
severely underrated

>>11665402
kek

>>11665716

>>11666722
>pessimist
>loved his poodle
>Schopenhauer, though a pessimist, really—played the flute. Every day, after dinner: one should read his biography on that. And incidentally: a pessimist, one who denies God and the world but comes to a stop before morality—who affirms morality and plays the flute—the laede neminem morality—what? is that really—a pessimist?

You guys know there are more to jokes than simply referencing what a philosopher is known for right?

>>11670244
I thought that references passed off as jokes on their own these days.

>>11661840
>Hayek

>>11665716

>>11665716

>>11667422
lol

>>11665716

>>11665716
OH BULLSHIT just because I don't believe in heaven and that I interpret God differently.

>>11661502

>>11665716

Not what I expected

>>11661502
>this is your brain on nietzsche

>>11665716
FUCK PLATO

Pretty good.
Was Catholic turned Atheist now Christian

>>11665716
It was obvious. The test doesn't have enough ethicists.

>>11669319
Sharper.

>>11665716
what am i

Let's settle the debate now once and for all.

>>11665716
>Based cunt

>>11665716
knew it mate

>>11665716
I would say its good.

>>11667450
You see, [adjusts nose] it's because [sniff] ideology [gestures with hands].

>>11665716

>>11671239
Aristotle wins

I guess I need to pick up On Pure Reason and whatever Aquinas wrote.

>>11661860
unironically true

>>11661963
Zizek is unironically a pseud. Imagine not coming to the conclusion that there is something wrong with the world until you were 60 years old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg7qdowoemo

>>11671176
A brain/lit/ who never has and never will read the greeks, living life with a contradictory hodge-podge of a worldview.

>>11665716
I'm not even christian

Living on the edge with neetsch

>>11665716

am i a pseud?

>>11661524
>behold a trolley

>>11662962
Here is better one

figured

>>11666999
some of the best digits I've seen. Duality,. Yin and Yang. Beautiful. Tight and clean. Stunning. Congrats

>>11661622
hello thales

>>11665716

>>11666490
this is very similar to what I got.

>>11665716
awwww shiet nigga it's happening

>>11661746
this is why i come here

>>11661755
absolutely seething

>>11661815
holy shit this is so good lol

>>11665691
everyone in this thread after this post is going to be tried in the hague for not giving this underrated post their youvote

>>11665716

>>11665716

>>11665716
surprise surprise

>>11670191
delet

>>11661488
different trolley, still your killing

I'd make a meme about nihilism but what's the point

>>11665716
Sextus Empiricus

>>11672457
>settle
lol u gayboyy mhmhmm xDDD loolee

>>11665716
My nigga

>>11665716
What does this mean? I'm a former Muslim, currently agnostic

>>11672797
kek

>>11667119
What did he mean by this ?

>>11670661
kek

>>11666003
Seconding this. This thread was better before it devolved into stupid test results.

>>11672457
This, the man of reason and inquiry wins yet again. Platards are literally faggots.

>>11661488

>>11675815
trolley meme: normalfag edition

>>11670326
One of the best political scientists, at least one of the better ones in the Austrian school. Let me tell you: an Austrian economist who recognizes that monopolies are useful sometimes is a good Austrian economist.

The mouth breathers like Mises or Rothbard don’t understand indifference curves willingly. At least Hayek stays in his damn lane

>>11675837
>not being normal
Why are you even posting on 4chan? You probably watch anime too

>>11661488

>>11661488

>>11667119
Kant didn't mean instincts by a priori knowledge. He meant the necessary and universal. You can read more about it in his book, he does a rather good job at explaining it.

>>11676106
The first critique? Got it, I'll reread it. Mostly I just used instincts as an example to show how reasoning can be biased by various factors. I know that waynt the crux of Kant tho

>>11676150
Oh alri, sorry I was pissy

>>11665384
kek

>>11665716