/lit/ - Literature

I loved Tolstoewskij's The dead of the dead

>>11635950
they caused the russian revolution by being too cool

I liked Dostolstoy's War and Punishment

>>11635950
Tolstoy is timeless, Dosto is only relevant in times of upheaval.

Dostoevsky is actually good

>>11636060
Ever read The Brothers Karannina?

>>11635950
Is it normal to hate Tolstoy? I mean, I love him as a writer, but I despise that high moral pose he assumes while conferring his philosophy

>>11635950
Tolstoy wanted to hug it out with the Turks

>>11635950
Here's a tip. Read their books.

Tolstoy was born to write, Dosto was not but became the better writer after almost being executed and then exiled to Siberia

>>11636840
This... but off the top of my head Dostoevsky became a reactionary to the socialist forces as he saw the potential inhumanity of their methods. Tolstoy basically became a Christian pacifist in the end. They were both slavophiles and christians in their own way. As far as their books go, Tolstoy's are perhaps less dense reading but Dostoevsky's books speed up and you become engrossed in these feverish philosophical speeches and social gatherings that play out in drawing rooms. I prefer Dostoevsky. Both are great.

Tolstoy shows characters evolving over time, often decades. His prose is always moving forward.

Dostoevsky separates characters spatially. He skips around in time in the parts of his novels, then shows people all at once, revealed in small moments, in different parts of town, in the frame of a night or maybe two.

This is because Tolstoy operates on the human level, where people become what they will, while Dostoevsky operates on the spiritual plane, where people are eternally themselves and cannot be revealed temporally.

>>11636984
I like this approach.

>>11635950
I loved his Brothers Karenina

>>11637730
Personally I liked Crime & Peace the most. And don't even get me started on the sequel, War & Punishment.

>>11635954
The house of ivan ilytch is pretty good too

>>11637751
What do you think of Neon Genesis Evangelion though?

>>11635954
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>>11637802
haha :)

tolstoy is a naive idealist

>>11636786
I think it's uncommon but I agree with you. He was a total piece of shit.

>>11637860
He wasn't always though. He actually worked up to those positions in a long roundabout way, which makes them weightier imo.

>>11635950
Why are there always threads comparing these two hugely different writers? Are they bait threads? The only thing they have in common is being contemporaries from the same country.

>>11640077
Because they're the two foremost writers in the last great century of literature?

>>11635950
From what I've read, it seems that Tolstoy captures the beauty and struggles of normal life. Things like longing for meaning/happiness, death of a loved one, old age, domestic disputes, love, and relationship issues. Generally more melancholy and very organic stories - like witnessing life as it happens.

Dosto covers the more extreme topics, like mental illness, poverty, isolation, suicide, and murder. Very suspenseful and emotional, but feels more like an intricately crafted story than real life.

Together they cover the range of human experience, from the very typical struggles to the extremes, with enough overlap to cover pretty much everything in-between

I didn't know the circus was in town. ; )
You guys are such goofballs ha

why do i even bother