/lit/ - Literature

>>11634029
She's not interesting, it's mediocre poetry from an overclass depressed writer. It's not good.

>>11634029
It's well written.

Some people love it some people hate it. You are free to have whatever opinion you want.

>>11634029
It doesn't get good. Its strange what she gets caught up and fixated on. I was expecting more of a fixation on just the emotions that she was going through, but instead I got someone complaining about what others are wearing

>>11634713
The fact that you describe her as overclass of all things shows you haven't read a single word of or about her, other than what you've read here. Try again, preferably after you actually read some of her stuff.

>>11634926
It's overwhelmingly sparse and plain considering the poet it comes from. There is some good prose and her classic imagery, but instances are few and far between. It almost reads as plainly as Orwell or Harper Lee at this point (and I'm over halfway through the book).

What was her problem anyway?

Sounds like she just needed to get fucked by Chad a few times.

>>11635488
Chad moved on from her

bump, just finished it. It did get a little bit better, but I still think it turned out pretty mediocre. The best part of the book was the villanelle in the back, in the biography after the novel

Nothing written past the 1900's is really that good anyway. Stick with the Greeks and Russians.

>>11634029
>>11634029
I really enjoyed it but I read it back when I was starting to take reading more seriously so maybe if I revisited it now I may find it bland. I thought the story was interesting and I found Plath's self-insert to be relatable with my own experiences of depression especially how she is reluctant to connect with people who are putting in effort to connect with her, plus the metaphor of the branches and her struggle with Finnegans Wake were engaging for me.

Her poetry is better than The Bell Jar but it's still a fantastic book.

>>11636205
plath is

>How can such a great poet write such a juvenile, garbage book?

I have never liked Plath's poetry but I read this novel just recently and loved it. The depiction of depression was relatable and the sense of helplessness once the machinery of psychiatry starts turning was terrifying. I thought it was a great anti-coming of age novel, and all the more affecting knowing Plath never really set herself straight and ended up committing suicide. This world really isn't meant for all.

>>11637690
kys

>>11637785
kek

>>11637690
I found that her depiction was pretty hollow. She could have expounded page upon page of thoughts of her depression and it would have been more interesting

>>11634029
It will not get better, OP. You could read this, however; it is the same book, without the maudlin crap.

>>11638114
>The Dud Avocado
She's no poet I've ever heard of. Is it actually good?

Imagine touching her hnnng

>How can such a great poet
>daddydaddydaddydaddydaddydaddy

>>11638188
Nice Hitler dubs.
Different poster here, it is actually good.

>>11634029
normies need not apply on this book

>>11638648
I'm as depressed as the next anon but this is not a great book. Certainly not on the level of her poetry

The Bell Jar is like discount Book of Disquiet

>>11638448
Hnnnng

>>11636022
This. Plath is the best poet of the 21st century.

I shut my eyes and all the world drops dead;
I lift my lids and all is born again.
(I think I made you up inside my head.)
The stars go waltzing out in blue and red,
And arbitrary blackness gallops in:
I shut my eyes and all the world drops dead.
I dreamed that you bewitched me into bed
And sung me moon-struck, kissed me quite insane.
(I think I made you up inside my head.)
God topples from the sky, hell's fires fade:
Exit seraphim and Satan's men:
I shut my eyes and all the world drops dead.
I fancied you'd return the way you said,
But I grow old and I forget your name.
(I think I made you up inside my head.)
I should have loved a thunderbird instead;
At least when spring comes they roar back again.
I shut my eyes and all the world drops dead.
(I think I made you up inside my head.)

>>11634029
>when does this get interesting?

>>11642338
Shit opinion, compare literally any Plath poem, even the ones she wrote in elementary school, to Rupi Kaurs, and you'll find that she's a genius

>>11642381
>being simply better than Rupi Kaur means that you're a great poet.
God I loathe millenials.

>>11641007
Plath is an alright poet sometimes (itself already a controversial opinion on this board) but this isn’t her best... it sounds like slightly above-average rock or pop song lyrics at best. She’s FAR from the best of the 20th century (which I think you meant instead of 21st). Modern poetry isn’t my strong suit as much but that’s the century of Rilke, Eliot, and Yeats (probably the best 20th century poet I know of). Plath has a very unique poetic voice in which she does stuff with assonance, consonance, diction, and alliteration that sets her off a lot from other poets. Philosophically and psychologically, her range is not that big compared to other poets. Her poems have more of a straightforward beauty of sound than depth of meaning often. Again, poetry isn’t my strong suit as much, so forgive me if I sound retarded talking about her, but part of her unique sound is how often she uses and reuses strong consonants alliteratively and words strongly stressed on the first syllable. It sometimes even reminds me of what I know of Old English/Middle English alliterative verses like Beowulf or Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, where the language sounds heavily Germanic, strong, stressed, and every line is alliterative for a certain consonant usually. Another poet she reminds me of, strangely, is Gerard Manley Hopkins and his sprung rhythm, who has a similar style and approach to creating beautiful language through simultaneously modern, experimental, free-verse-like means, and through inspiration from older styles of poetry (he was apparently also inspired by old Anglo-Saxon poetry like Beowulf). I think Hopkins is a better poet, however. Here’s an example of one of Plath’s poems I chose at random, which I think has these qualities a lot:

A Lesson in Vengeance
In the dour ages
Of drafty cells and draftier castles,
Of dragons breathing without the frame of fables,
Saint and king unfisted obstruction's knuckles
By no miracle or majestic means,

But by such abuses
As smack of spite and the overscrupulous
Twisting of thumbscrews: one soul tied in sinews,
One white horse drowned, and all the unconquered pinnacles
Of God's city and Babylon's

Must wait, while here Suso's
Hand hones his tack and needles,
Scouraging to sores his own red sluices
For the relish of heaven, relentless, dousing with prickles
Of horsehair and lice his horny loins;
While there irate Cyrus
Squanders a summer and the brawn of his heroes
To rebuke the horse-swallowing River Gyndes:
He split it into three hundred and sixty trickles
A girl could wade without wetting her shins.

Still, latter-day sages,
Smiling at this behavior, subjugating their enemies
Neatly, nicely, by disbelief or bridges,
Never grip, as the grandsires did, that devil who chuckles
From grain of the marrow and the river-bed grains

>>11638448

Her insufferable nature suppurates through the picture. She's cunting just standing there.

>>11638448
She ugly as sin

>>11634029
Cause she wasn't actually a great poet.

>>11635488
Is it not what we all need?

>>11638896
Lmao

>>11643880
wrong
she was the best of the confessional poets along with perhaps sexton, miles better than her bum husband