/lit/ - Literature

>>11632538
There are currently two active threads about this already:

>>11630397

>>11630998

>>11632558
Those literally have nothing to do with what im asking, nor are they general. Thanks for the productive posting.

>>11632538

>>11632538
>Why didn't Shakespeare include any major character in the opening scene of the play?

Suspense. It builds the world of the play - of fear, fog, neurosis, secrets, treasons - very slowly. Many of Shakespeare's openigs don't present major characters right from the start.

>>11632538
>Why doesn't the ghost speak to Horatio?

Because it was not on Shakespeare's plot-structure. Many of the reasons why a character do this or that are not misterious at all: they just need to fit in the skeleton of the plot. It's only scholars that latter come in and try to find symbolism in every corner of the work. To an actual writer things like this are plain obvious.

>>11632592
>to an actual writer

>>11632575
>My generic questions about Hamlet don't belong in the Hamlet threads
They are Hamlet threads. You started a Hamlet thread. Tacking the word 'general' to it doesn't set it apart, you mongoloid. If you were here I would cave your skull in, I'm not kidding.

>>11632613

And a great one too ;)

U jelly?

Shakespeare was the first existentialist.

>>11632623
kys faggot. you're a retarded piece of shit and i want you to know that your skull is already caved in as evidenced by your lack of contribution.

>>11632592
loool

>>11632623
This guy's a fucking idiot

Why does Hamlet kill Polonius? Is there any indication that he's suddenly made up his mind to kill Claudius? It never really chimed with me that he'd been full of inaction and then suddenly stabbed through a curtain on the off chance it might be Claudius

>>11632653
>>11632641
Samefag. I can tell from your diction and general retardation.

>>11632592

this

>>11632613

Here's a future English teacher

>>11632653
relevant post from the archives for your fist question: >>/lit/thread/S3685749#p3694420

>>11632666
No you thick twat

>>11632666
actually not. count the people in the thread brainlet. you know in the same time it took you to respond to this, you couldve started huffing on carbon monoxide.

>>11632592
>Suspense. It builds the world of the play - of fear, fog, neurosis, secrets, treasons - very slowly. Many of Shakespeare's openigs don't present major characters right from the start.
Also establishes that the ghost is real and not a Macbeth job where only one character can see it

>>11632670
Here's a future barista.

>>11632681
Macbeth was performed after (which I know has no bearing on when it was written necessarily). Is the claim then that in Macbeth the ghost serves as a formal innovation because it invites readings of Macbeth as insane?

>>11632671
Having read the Twelve Caesars recently, this seems like a big stretch

>>11632699
How so?

>>11632680
Are you gonna cry?

By the way, you can't hide your inferior diction and generally weak ideas.

>>11632653
>Why does Hamlet kill Polonius? Is there any indication that he's suddenly made up his mind to kill Claudius? It never really chimed with me that he'd been full of inaction and then suddenly stabbed through a curtain on the off chance it might be Claudius

Shakespeare's plays are not that well built.

Why does Hamlet question whether there is life after death when he had proof of this by actually talking to a ghost (or spirit, or demon, anyway, a thing from the other world)?

Why does the King sees the entire dumb show (where his crime is shown: the killer pouring poison in the ear of the actor-king) calmly, but only gets scared when the thing is staged and talked on scene?

These are more cases of carelessness than intentional complexities.

What's more, the rule of tragedy is: the more main characters you can kill, the better. It was a good time to kill Polonius (and probably it was already on Shakespeare's source material, the Ur-Hamlet)

>>11632718
>are you gonna cry
really, is that all you've got on an anonymous image board? you have free reign to tell me off in whatever creative way you please, and this is what you have to back up your patented retarded claim. look, i get that youre trolling or you feel dumb or whatever, but at least have some fucking balls. but you know after typing all this out i still cant figure out you havent killed yourself yet rather than post in this thread.

>>11632688

>lol, he really is afraid he will never write anything good.

As for being a barista, I do not see anything wrong: maybe it's more fun than my profession (lawyer).

I only pity your students. Instead of a Nabokov they will get a pseudo Harold Bloom.

>>11632718
>attempting to police an on-topic thread
did it push off a youtuber thread you were more interested in?

>>11632738
Nigga i do comp sci stop

>>11632696
>Is the claim then that in Macbeth the ghost serves as a formal innovation because it invites readings of Macbeth as insane?
No, I'm saying the reason lots of characters see the ghost in Hamlet is to tell the audience that in the world of the play the ghost is real

>>11632776
k bro thnks

>>11632716
I mean - Claudius hid behind a curtain after Caligula's assassination, true - but it just doesn't seem to have any relevance to the events of the play or even the context - throwing in a visual gag about roman history that doesn't even actually correlate with the event in the play is a bit nonsensical