/lit/ - Literature

>>11629356
Fiction.

>>11629356

I had a rather interesting nightmare a few weeks ago which I never documented. I may do so here if I get a (You).

>>11629457
But the dreams really happened in your head.

>>11629497
night terror

>>11629516
im on the side of non-fiction
you experience what happened no matter how fantastical or mundane it may seem and report what it was.
as long as its an accurate account i believe what you write to be a work of non-fiction though the dream itself is more difficult to categorize
since only you can experience your dreams first hand and only you can recall them then its like an autobiography

>>11629356

>>11629356
Dreams are just as real as physical reality. They are experienced in the same way, phenomenally. There is no difference, ultimately. Stupid people ignore a third of their life.

>>11629356
Non fiction.
The brain lacks the processing power to build such a rich environment. Dreams are proof of an alternate reality and give hope for life after death.

>>11629356
had a dream the other week that a was in high school and Mussolini was in the grade above me. we rolled together, it was no big deal.

i had a dream i bought 4 packs of cigarettes from some smug indian woman who was getting a tattoo behind the counter. then i had to go to canada for a girl i know at night by following the stars and walking but my friend was able to give me a ride and as we were getting on an on ramp it looked like rad racrer but from a side view.
when i woke up the girl had texted me
i almost always have a dream about somebody in some way if were about to be in contact

>>11629615
I agree, everyone should aspire to enhance their dream experience, I pity those who never remember their dreams.

I had a super interesting dream about a week ago that I may make into a narrative poem.

It started out in a chamber in a castle. I was a member of a company of knights, and I had a sword and armor; however, I was not formally a knight myself. But the knights discussed amongst themselves whether or not to make me a knight. As they debated, a rat scurried around the edges of the chamber. Finally it ran under the chair of the lead knight, just as the knights were voting. They agreed to make me a knight, and then the lead knight swung his ax down and cut the rat completely in two. This, combined with the vote, prompted us to cheer loudly.

We left the castle and headed out into the countryside. Something prompted me to stop and turn around; I was at the rear of the company. I turned, and I beheld a woman coming out of the nearby woods. She was very beautiful, with golden hair and pale white skin. She was also a giant, about twice my height. She wore a white dress, and it seemed to me that there was something of fairies about her. Nevertheless, I ran to her, and she caught me up and drew me to herself. She asked if they had made me a knight. I said yes, and we kissed passionately.

That's when I woke up. I had a throbbing erection, too. But it definitely seems like good fodder for a story.

>>11629615
Go to bed, pessoa

>>11629796
I had a dream that i was a nobleman and my serfs were petitioning me for grain because it was a bad harvest and they were running low on food and i told them that there was no grain. but really my grain supply was overflowing ;^)

>>11629796
Here is my live reaction to your post:
>I had a super interesting dream about a week ago
ugh, people who think their dreams are interested, when will they learn? I'll read the first sentence and see if it grabs me
>It started out in a chamber in a castle. I was a member of a company of knights, and I had a sword and armor;
Nice!
>They agreed to make me a knight
Bitchen, congrats!
>I turned, and I beheld a woman coming out of the nearby woods
Nice
>here was something of fairies about her
Could be dangerous bro, watch out
>She asked if they had made me a knight. I said yes, and we kissed passionately.
hot

Damn, nice story bro, you should definitely write a short story. Makes me want to do a painting of it

>>11629586
Fucking hell, audible laugh

>>11629796
You captivated me

>>11629868
>>11629586
whats the last book? it looks good

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>>11630227
thanks boy

>>11629356
Reminder that what scatterings of a dream you do remember are nothing compared to the amount and completeness that you do dream every night. Further, when you remember, you're mostly filling in impressions with your imagination to solidifying some memories. Most descriptions you can give of your dreams aren't accurate.

>>11629615
I sincerely agree. My dreams are better than my actual life anyway.

>>11629796
Wow, what an archetypal dream. Very old-fashioned style of dream, more akin to the ones in Jung's collection rather than ones you find in more modern books on dreams.

As well, follows the traditional patterning in dreams. Men as a collective, within rigid structures. Rites of initiation. Culling of "lower" animal qualities. Movement from masculine structure out into feminine nature. Pure maiden, particularly large/giant (a motherly quality). As well as a certain mystical/magical quality (fairies).

Sounds like things are moving in a positive direction for you, psychologically.

>>11630461
>he doesn't have good dream recall
>he thinks dreams are only remembered after the fact and can't be experienced in the moment
If you have a shallow relationship to your unconscious mind, your experience of dreaming will be shallow, yes. If you've never vividly explored a dreamscape, then you could do with practicing. Lucid dreaming especially rebukes this false idea that a dream is "mostly" post-facto imagination. Scientists didn't even recognize lucid dreaming until very recently, they are far behind on dream research.

I have better recall of my dreams than I do of my actual life. Not necessarily a good thing, but my connection to my dreams is strong. Sometimes I can remember whole strings of dreams, and observe the emergence of plot and narrative and the going up into some kind of "loading area" until the next dream occurs or is "selected" or conjured up.

Then again, apparently "less than 1%" of people can read in their dreams, and most of my dreams as of late have been reading books that don't exist (probably why dream research blows so much).

A recent one I had took place in a classroom, where I was reading about Foucault (the prose was his train of thought) traveling through an oppressive, post-apocalyptic wasteland -- he was aware he was in a dream, and was trying to get out, but he didn't realize he was in a book I was reading. He'd befriended one of my tabletop PCs, an Irish teenage boy werewolf, to aid in him fending off white trash drug addicts and the like. Both the classroom and wasteland segments of the dream occurred concurrently, every once in a while I have dual dreams like that.

A few nights ago I was reading a poem by Haruki Murakami about dreams, cooking pasta, and sex. Two nights ago I was reading a book by some imaginary, famous chef who was complaining about the logistical nightmare of running a reality TV show (had real problems with Louis CK apparently). Last night I was reading a book that was supposed to be "Finnegans Wake, but it's an alien invasion narrative" that was quite trash.

Been keeping a dream journal for over a year now. The books are a new development honestly. Used to be unable to read in dreams, but now the books are all very concrete. Think it has to do with cultivating my mind's skill for dreaming.

>>11629615
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>>11629356
If dreaming really were a kind of truce
(as people claim), a sheer repose of mind,
why then if you should waken up abruptly,
do you feel that something has been stolen from you?
Why should it be so sad, the early morning?
It robs us of an inconceivable gift,
so intimate it is only knowable
in a trance which the nightwatch gilds with dreams,
dreams that might very well be reflections,
fragments from the treasure-house of darkness,
from the timeless sphere that does not have a name,
and that the day distorts in its mirrors.
Who will you be tonight in your dreamfall
into the dark, on the other side of the wall?

>>11630461
>when you remember, you're mostly filling in impressions with your imagination to solidifying some memories. Most descriptions you can give of your dreams aren't accurate

Nice projection. Start writing a dream diary.

>I have frequently wondered if the majority of mankind ever pause to reflect upon the occasionally titanic significance of dreams, and of the obscure world to which they belong. Whilst the greater number of our nocturnal visions are perhaps no more than faint and fantastic reflections of our waking experiences—Freud to the contrary with his puerile symbolism—there are still a certain remainder whose immundane and ethereal character permits of no ordinary interpretation, and whose vaguely exciting and disquieting effect suggests possible minute glimpses into a sphere of mental existence no less important than physical life, yet separated from that life by an all but impassable barrier. From my experience I cannot doubt but that man, when lost to terrestrial consciousness, is indeed sojourning in another and uncorporeal life of far different nature from the life we know; and of which only the slightest and most indistinct memories linger after waking. From those blurred and fragmentary memories we may infer much, yet prove little. We may guess that in dreams life, matter, and vitality, as the earth knows such things, are not necessarily constant; and that time and space do not exist as our waking selves comprehend them. Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon.

>>11630758
Nice.

>>11630783
based and redpilled

>>11629615
>They are experienced in the same way, phenomenally.
In terms of pure phenomenology perhaps, as they would both fall under the same categories of lived acts, only as long as the dream are perceived as true.
But you can always break from this immersion. In practice, with a little training, it is easy to see your dreams as dreams even before waking up.
The fact that you can lucid dream already proves that the dream experience is not truly the same as the usual one.

Bump

>>11629536
COBRAS!